Pikachu Tribe - Day 9

[juliets]

Hello all - I have been out of pocket due to my surgery yesterday but I think the pain is subsiding and I should be available to you today after 11:00 am.

[sprityo]

RE: SVS on tunneling

But you recognize the difference between you and DH don’t you? Like you’re not hell bent on one person and are open to discussing and looking everywhere without prompts

[S~V~S]

RE: SVS on tunneling

But you recognize the difference between you and DH don’t you? Like you’re not hell bent on one person and are open to discussing and looking everywhere without prompts

I think you and I
see different people when
we look at DH

Here is his iso
He has discussed other peeps;
Focus most suspish

Talk to me about
Tunnelvision in a week
2 days? Not so much.

[S~V~S]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 1&start=50

[sprityo]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 1&start=50

Was there something specific I’m supposed to see becayse it redirects page 2?

[Long Con]

First impression as I browse DH's ISO is that I agree with Epignosis' opinion that... how did he put it? "I cannot point to a single opinion DH has that I don't think he'll change his mind about if the environment of the thread suits him."

It's a different kind of challenge to analyze haiku posts.

[speedchuck]

I guess I could focus on Fire Emblem?

If you guys are going to continue being obtuse, I'll give some legacy reads at the end of the day. When I flip, lynch anyone who doesn't listen to my reads. Lynch them hard.

[speedchuck]

Dom has seemed towny to me all day. But his vote on me is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

#1. It's in a good pace to solidify the train. The 4th vote on a train is what takes it from viable to contender. It also doesn't carry as much heat as some of the other places.
#2. It is a reversal of the direction Dom's thought process was going in. He goes from 'liking my substance' to 'agreed' that I have no content in like, 12 hours while I was gone.
#3. Opportunistic

"Disgusting."

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I guess I could focus on Fire Emblem?

If you guys are going to continue being obtuse, I'll give some legacy reads at the end of the day. When I flip, lynch anyone who doesn't listen to my reads. Lynch them hard.

This post doesn't sound civ at all.

[speedchuck]

Maybe it doesn't matter what I sound like anymore, DDL.

[speedchuck]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

[speedchuck]

If anyone has any questions to ask me before you lose my first role, feel free to ask them instead of screaming into the void about how bad I am.

Otherwise I'll just continue letting off steam into the thread until you are all moist.

[Long Con]

Eh no I don't like this round robin plan or whatever it's called. I want to lynch scum.

Lynching at randon just because it gives us a result is worse than trying to lynch and having a good chabce of failure. We learn nothing from the former since votes were meaningless. From the later we at least have a vote tally we can dissect later.

Classic civilian response. I will say that the logic is more pro-civilian here than in a round robin where we leave our votes where they are and primarily twiddle our thumbs just to get a flip. Alright.

Argue about the RR and whether alignments change in the future was all he did on Day 1. Dropped a vote on speedchuck as a starter but never finished. Not great.

I'm still feeling somewhat bad about Speedchuck but it's better than yesterday.

I'm feeling worse about Nutella though.

VOTE NUTELLA

aubergine

First I'm hearing about this. Explain pls.

Did you miss the part where I caught Nutella on TMI? There was a dozen posts of people talking about it.

The rest is gut tbh.

I don't agree with this. That TMI accusation was a huge reach, and not believable. I've never seen a Day 1 baddie accidentally confirm that they know a Civ is a Civ. nutella's been playing for a decade, and I'm really comfortable in believing that wasn't a slip.

Although I don't put much stock in the "Epi mouthpiece" thing, S~V~S' observation that nutella is a little sharper-edged than usual is apt. I'm not that great at specific meta recollections, but I know that S~V~S is. Some active corroboration with past nutella games would be better.

Point is, I think DDL is bad, and if he is, then I count it as another strike against nutella, because the TMI accusation, and the callback to it, just strike me as contrived.

I flip the flop on Speedchuck, but he seems a little down right now. Perhaps when I [VOTE: Dragon D Luffy] aubergine he'll cheer up.

[DharmaHelper]

You lost me on this one. Love the Crazy Pills thing, but speedchuck and Epig voting DDL being Crazy Pills... I'm just not following.

They're voting together and defending each other cuz they're not teammates.

[DharmaHelper]

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

It's not a slip I want to bring attention to because if certain things don't pan out then the slip will do more harm than good.

[Long Con]

You lost me on this one. Love the Crazy Pills thing, but speedchuck and Epig voting DDL being Crazy Pills... I'm just not following.

They're voting together and defending each other cuz they're not teammates.

Well then I guess my last post doesn't look to good to you then.

[Long Con]

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

It's not a slip I want to bring attention to because if certain things don't pan out then the slip will do more harm than good.

Do you have any kind of timeline for us as to when we can expect results from this slip?

[Long Con]

I think the slip is fictional, and it's intended to make the baddies nervous:

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

[DharmaHelper]

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

It's not a slip I want to bring attention to because if certain things don't pan out then the slip will do more harm than good.

Do you have any kind of timeline for us as to when we can expect results from this slip?

It happened sometime between the start of Day 1 and the post I made calling it out. I'm not sure when it will result in anything, if at all. Lots of plates in the air. I've still got my eye on it.

[DharmaHelper]

I think the slip is fictional, and it's intended to make the baddies nervous:

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

Well your DDL vote didn't really ping me but *this* one sure does. Why give solace/cover to the baddies regarding the slip?

Also, it's not fake, I'm just not certain it'd be helpful yet.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I think the slip is fictional, and it's intended to make the baddies nervous:

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

Well your DDL vote didn't really ping me but *this* one sure does. Why give solace/cover to the baddies regarding the slip?

Also, it's not fake, I'm just not certain it'd be helpful yet.

It just bothers me that scum slips are extremely rare, like lightning falling on a specific place, yet you are saying you'll only reveal the place when the lightning falls on it again.

[DharmaHelper]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

[speedchuck]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

[DharmaHelper]

I think the slip is fictional, and it's intended to make the baddies nervous:

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

Well your DDL vote didn't really ping me but *this* one sure does. Why give solace/cover to the baddies regarding the slip?

Also, it's not fake, I'm just not certain it'd be helpful yet.

It just bothers me that scum slips are extremely rare, like lightning falling on a specific place, yet you are saying you'll only reveal the place when the lightning falls on it again.

Why does that bother you? It's exactly because they're so rare that I'm waiting to confirm my suspicions before jumping down someone's throat about it. If it happens once, I'm not going to put weight behind it. If it happens again, Boom. Got 'em.

[speedchuck]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

[speedchuck]

Actually, that clip didn't fit as well as I thought it would. Hmph.

[DharmaHelper]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

[Long Con]

I think the slip is fictional, and it's intended to make the baddies nervous:

If DH doesn't clarify what slip he saw before the day is over I'm going to assume he's making shit up.

Well your DDL vote didn't really ping me but *this* one sure does. Why give solace/cover to the baddies regarding the slip?

Also, it's not fake, I'm just not certain it'd be helpful yet.

Did my DDL vote ping you a little bit? Why did you preface with that?

I wasn't trying to give solace or cover to the baddies. I'm not even sure how you mean that, do you mean I prematurely potentially exposed the man behind the curtain?

I said it because that's how DDL struck me on the reread. You are DharmaHelper, so I have a pretty big bias saying that the slip is a made-up ploy. Are you not the type who would enjoy doing such a thing? So that's how I've been reading things surrounding it: what info would a fake slip-reveal bring up? What's DH looking for? Looking at DDL's post in that light, he looks like a nervous baddie who can't stop worrying about the slip. "Was it me that slipped?"

[Long Con]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

[DharmaHelper]

It was in regards to this, LC:

You lost me on this one. Love the Crazy Pills thing, but speedchuck and Epig voting DDL being Crazy Pills... I'm just not following.

They're voting together and defending each other cuz they're not teammates.

Well then I guess my last post doesn't look to good to you then.

[speedchuck]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

Ah, I get it. I could tell you were being sarcastic instead of helpful, but didn't understand where you were going with it.

[Long Con]

oh yeah right sorry

[Long Con]

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

Ah, I get it. I could tell you were being sarcastic instead of helpful, but didn't understand where you were going with it.

But he believes that his sarcasm IS helpful.

[nutella]

Ugh I hate this lynch I think speed and ddl both look mostly civ. I trust speed more though so I guess I'll vote for DDL, speed's points against him in the iso post and LC's point about the slip are decent and I think at this point I'd rather vote with speedchuck than throwaway vote outside the two contenders. Looks like shit if speed turns out to be bad, but I don't think he is so I'm taking the gamble here. Not feeling great about it though.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

[DharmaHelper]

Ugh I hate this lynch I think speed and ddl both look mostly civ. I trust speed more though so I guess I'll vote for DDL, speed's points against him in the iso post and LC's point about the slip are decent and I think at this point I'd rather vote with speedchuck than throwaway vote outside the two contenders. Looks like shit if speed turns out to be bad, but I don't think he is so I'm taking the gamble here. Not feeling great about it though.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Yes hello waiter I'll have the CYA special with a side of all my bases covered

[speedchuck]

Yes hello waiter I'll have the CYA special with a side of all my bases covered

That's nutella.

[DharmaHelper]

shit's tied fam.

[Dom]

Dom has seemed towny to me all day. But his vote on me is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

#1. It's in a good pace to solidify the train. The 4th vote on a train is what takes it from viable to contender. It also doesn't carry as much heat as some of the other places.
#2. It is a reversal of the direction Dom's thought process was going in. He goes from 'liking my substance' to 'agreed' that I have no content in like, 12 hours while I was gone.
#3. Opportunistic

"Disgusting."

Compare this to your vote(s) for me where you gave no reason.

I like you made some progress in this. I do.
That doesn't undercut everything else about you.

This post is shitty af tho.

I liked like two of your posts out of three pages.

You're upset that buddying up to me didn't help you.

If anyone has any questions to ask me before you lose my first role, feel free to ask them instead of screaming into the void about how bad I am.

Otherwise I'll just continue letting off steam into the thread until you are all moist.

Convince me that DDL is worse than you, then.

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

Ah, I get it. I could tell you were being sarcastic instead of helpful, but didn't understand where you were going with it.

To be fair-- in your last rainbow... that's... exactly what you did.

[Dom]

Ugh I hate this lynch I think speed and ddl both look mostly civ. I trust speed more though so I guess I'll vote for DDL, speed's points against him in the iso post and LC's point about the slip are decent and I think at this point I'd rather vote with speedchuck than throwaway vote outside the two contenders. Looks like shit if speed turns out to be bad, but I don't think he is so I'm taking the gamble here. Not feeling great about it though.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Question: who would you feel great about lynching?

[DharmaHelper]

Actually, that clip didn't fit as well as I thought it would. Hmph.

It is a delicate art form.

[Long Con]

Dom has seemed towny to me all day. But his vote on me is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

#1. It's in a good pace to solidify the train. The 4th vote on a train is what takes it from viable to contender. It also doesn't carry as much heat as some of the other places.
#2. It is a reversal of the direction Dom's thought process was going in. He goes from 'liking my substance' to 'agreed' that I have no content in like, 12 hours while I was gone.
#3. Opportunistic

"Disgusting."

Compare this to your vote(s) for me where you gave no reason.

I like you made some progress in this. I do.
That doesn't undercut everything else about you.

This post is shitty af tho.

I liked like two of your posts out of three pages.

You're upset that buddying up to me didn't help you.

If anyone has any questions to ask me before you lose my first role, feel free to ask them instead of screaming into the void about how bad I am.

Otherwise I'll just continue letting off steam into the thread until you are all moist.

Convince me that DDL is worse than you, then.

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

Ah, I get it. I could tell you were being sarcastic instead of helpful, but didn't understand where you were going with it.

To be fair-- in your last rainbow... that's... exactly what you did.

If speedy's bad, then his Day 1 last-minute Quinvote was for a reason, right? Like, a bad reason. Saving a teammate? What else could it be?

Maybe he's just a guy who has opinions that can evolve, and played it pretty loose due to haikuGate. That guy could be bad or good, but I'm not really buying the rainbow list lockdown you guys are giving him. He posted a rainbow list, and changed his mind about it. Not really a crime.

[Dom]

Did he change his mind on it?

Because Quin is exactly where he was before.

[speedchuck]

Dom has seemed towny to me all day. But his vote on me is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

#1. It's in a good pace to solidify the train. The 4th vote on a train is what takes it from viable to contender. It also doesn't carry as much heat as some of the other places.
#2. It is a reversal of the direction Dom's thought process was going in. He goes from 'liking my substance' to 'agreed' that I have no content in like, 12 hours while I was gone.
#3. Opportunistic

"Disgusting."

Compare this to your vote(s) for me where you gave no reason.

I like you made some progress in this. I do.
That doesn't undercut everything else about you.

This post is shitty af tho.

I liked like two of your posts out of three pages.

You're upset that buddying up to me didn't help you.

Nah. My post is fine. You being condescending about it isn't. You belittle it because you need something to help support your argument against it. I don't know how anyone could look at the last ten-fifteen posts of your ISO and think "Yeah, that makes sense, I see that thought progression and that vote on speedchuck definitely wasn't influenced by his train gaining prominence."

There is literally nothing to justify your turnabout in momentum. You went from "Yeah, I'll hear this guy out, what do you think DH?" to "I agree, he sucks, let's vote him" without ANY new information being added except for an OMGUS vote from DDL.

If anyone has any questions to ask me before you lose my first role, feel free to ask them instead of screaming into the void about how bad I am.

Otherwise I'll just continue letting off steam into the thread until you are all moist.

Convince me that DDL is worse than you, then.

I'd have to believe that I've done something wrong, or failed in some way, to qualify DDL as worse than me. I delivered a case already. LC has supplemented that case.

Let's have a better rainbow today.

speedchuck
colonialbob
nutella
sprityo
Quin
Epignosis
S~V~S
Long Con
Dharmahelper
dom
Dragon D Luffy

If I go out today, this is my legacy. Pay attention to the colors. Order within color tier doesn't matter.

FINALLY a post from speedchuck that is somewhat useful. Thanks bud. So you're saying you'd vote for Sprityo, Quin, SVS, Epignosis overr say, C-Bob or me? Very useful idea of where you're head is at suspect-wise. Love this.

What in the balls did you read?

I'm sorry I must be confused from the previous execution of your rainbow lists. So you *wouldn't* vote for the names in green over a name in yellow?

Ah, I get it. I could tell you were being sarcastic instead of helpful, but didn't understand where you were going with it.

To be fair-- in your last rainbow... that's... exactly what you did.

Yes oh my god I get the joke. Are you going somewhere with this, or do you want me to re-explain the difference for the thirtieth time?

[Dom]

Speedchuck became very cold with me when I didn't vote the way he wanted.

Weird.

[speedchuck]

Speedchuck became very cold with me when I didn't vote the way he wanted.

Weird.

As bad as that post was, you could still be town. I find it impossible to read a wall of constant sarcastic needling without some form of bias.

But really, today reads more like DH stole your forum password than you coming to this conclusion genuinely.

[Dom]

What conclusion did I reach?

I just still think you're the best shot at getting a baddie amongst the ones we have discussed.

[Long Con]

Did he change his mind on it?

Because Quin is exactly where he was before.

That is true. Of course, Quin has had enough content from then to now that his read could have gone greener again.

Is a fluctuating read a reliable sign of a baddie?

In your words, pretend you are speedchuck baddie who took a truth serum. Answer, speedchuck, why did you vote for Quin when he's green on both iterations of your rainbow list?

[Long Con]

Wait, it's a joke now?

[DharmaHelper]

Did he change his mind on it?

Because Quin is exactly where he was before.

Huh you don't say?

It's almost like his suspicions are completely arbitrary and serve only to make him look like an innocent civilian when in fact, he is not.

[colonialbob]

[Mention]Dom[/mention] [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention] why would baddie speed contradict my explanation of why I thought he was town?