Pikachu Tribe - Day 9

[Long Con]

As for the role reveal, and the use of the term evolve, I am assuming that some roles are Pokemon evolver type roles, and mine was not. I never once thought that this would have any effect on my reincarnation.

[Dom]

then why don't either role on the front page talk about evolving at all?

[Dom]

17: Refridgerator (Haiku). Each night, you may choose one player who must post in haiku for the entire following day phase. At least 10 haiku must be posted. Unless the hosts deem that they have failed to meet the haiku requirement sufficiently, no votes cast against that player will count during that day.

15: Cecil (Welcome to Night Vale). Each night, you can write a news article to be published in the thread via the host.

no mention of evolving positively or negatively

[DharmaHelper]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

[Dom]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

[S~V~S]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

Do you think his story is true?

[Dom]

DH goes from "story is unbelievable"
to "fucked up premise"
interchangeably.

[speedchuck]

How would a civ effectively use that role?

I am completely convinced that you do not read my posts. Completely. Utterly. Convinced.

[DharmaHelper]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

[S~V~S]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

[DharmaHelper]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

Do you think his story is true?

I think it sounds like a load of grade A shit to me but if it is then I'm gonna feel real bad

[DharmaHelper]

DH goes from "story is unbelievable"
to "fucked up premise"
interchangeably.

It's both unbelievable, and also, pretty fucked up.

[DharmaHelper]

TFW SVS accuses me of buddying/teaming with Speedchuck and then she and Dom spend all day railroading LC and killing any skepticism surrounding his case.

[S~V~S]

[mention]Golden[/mention] [mention]Juliets[/mention] are we allowed to save posts from this thread to show the merged thread?

I doubt it, but I had to fucking ask

linki @ DH, how do you ever get through a Mafia game with that attitude? I know you to have voted to lynch people in the past, and you know, if you were wrong about them, then that would have sucked then, too.

Linki again, no I didn't. I explained my thought process clearly. And I think he is bad, he was the one who slipped, lol. I am not railroading anyone. Rather passionate, aren't we?

[Dom]

Listen I could be totally wrong, but you are literally saying "yo guys lc's story is probably bullshit, but hey dom is bad amiright vote for him not the one we already voted for"

[DharmaHelper]

@Golden @Juliets are we allowed to save posts from this thread to show the merged thread?

I doubt it, but I had to fucking ask

linki @ DH, how do you ever get through a Mafia game with that attitude? I know you to have voted to lynch people in the past, and you know, if you were wrong about them, then that would have sucked then, too.

Linki again, no I didn't. I explained my thought process clearly. And I think he is bad, he was the one who slipped, lol. I am not railroading anyone. Rather passionate, aren't we?

Oh no don't get me confused, I'm absolutely OK with lynching LC, I just think when Out of Thread/Game stuff bleeds into it, it kind of feels icky. Right? I'm not nuts there, am I?

And yes I'm very passionate, that's just sort of my brand.

[Long Con]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

[speedchuck]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

This. This here.

[Dom]

Well, if four other people wanted to vote for Dom with Chuck, LC, and me, we could sort this shit out quick fast and in a hurry. Nobody "dies" dies, and we get an idea of whether or not Dom is on the up and up. LC's on his last life so he can go at any point.

Or we can keep our votes on LC and possibly lose a civ as our first death-death.

Dunno ...

"I'm okay with lynching LC"

[DharmaHelper]

Listen I could be totally wrong, but you are literally saying "yo guys lc's story is probably bullshit, but hey dom is bad amiright vote for him not the one we already voted for"

I dunno what you want out of me Dom. I'm just trying to square this whole thing up in my head. Best case scenario, you're right and it was a slip, and the completely unbelievable story of the Facebook Illuminati is not true and a lie. But there's a nonzero chance that you're wrong, LC is telling the truth, and forces outside the game resulted in him getting essentially taken out of the game. As a long time player of the game and someone who takes (in particular) Champs Games pretty seriously, I'm just trying to work out if I feel comfortable with the nonzero option.

And as I've mentioned, literally everyone other than you passed on the Cerberus slip assuming it was a hypothetical tribe name. So there's also a nonzero chance that you saw the slip and jumped on it without realizing you'd also be exposing information that YOU knew to be true.

There's also a nonzero chance that there are mafia jumping down the rabbit hole you've dug to blindly lynch LC, and both you and LC are innocent.

I'm just trying to be critical here, rather than simply saying "Fuck, cool I guess we got one." voting and going about my business.

[DharmaHelper]

Well, if four other people wanted to vote for Dom with Chuck, LC, and me, we could sort this shit out quick fast and in a hurry. Nobody "dies" dies, and we get an idea of whether or not Dom is on the up and up. LC's on his last life so he can go at any point.

Or we can keep our votes on LC and possibly lose a civ as our first death-death.

Dunno ...

"I'm okay with lynching LC"

I keep throwing him rope and he keeps telling me to fuck off so I'm cool with fucking off.

[DharmaHelper]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

Because I wanted a tie and you love and respect me.

[Golden]

You may save posts, but you can only quote a post in another thread if you have visible access to the place it came from.

[S~V~S]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

This. This here.

A good player could use that role in either affiliation. The fact that a role can be used in either affiliation doesn't make LC a civ.

Chuck, do you think the hosts told a probable GOC player, no, TWO probable GOC players since MP was eligible as well, about secret game mechanics in a Facebook messenger chat?

Tell me you believe this, and I will leave you be the rest of the day.

Linki [mention]Golden[/mention] thanks that is actually better than I expected.

[Long Con]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

Why can't you acknowledge the fact that every single player knew about Tribes from the moment the game began? You calling it a "secret game mechanic", in that light, is just not accurate. And we weren't huddled together, discussing GOC 2017, we were chatting about other stuff, and juliets was like "that could be a tribe name!" I hate that you keep painting as you have been, because it's not at all accurate. If you're worried that there's some behind-the-scenes stuff going on between hosts and players that in any way affects or disrupts the game, then I give you my 100% assurance that there was not.

[speedchuck]

That officially swayed me. This story makes more sense if LC is town.

Town LC: Weird conversation happened that doesn't actually affect gameplay, since it is in effect at the start of the game. LC gets town role, uses it as town would, to make sense of things. Slips because of the conversation, tells the truth because honesty is best town policy. Then crap happens.

Scum LC: Tries to tie up vote for no reason whatsoever (You suggest he was doing it for later town cred, and I will laugh in your face). Slips because of his BTSC. Tells the most outrageous lie possible. Has a role that can be used to control the heck out of a close lynch, to a higher degree than most roles. A role that was based on a town role.

If people still want to lynch LC, that's fine. But at least acknowledge that this isn't an open and shut case, and play the friggin game of mafia instead of shutting down discussion.

[Long Con]

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

Because I wanted a tie and you love and respect me.

That is also true, and it made it extra gratifying to create that tie. But no. It was to use the role to find baddies.

[DharmaHelper]

"I'm not trying to railroad Long Con and kill skepticism of his lynch"

Spoiler: show

"Fucked up premise" = He knew something someone without BTSC wouldn't know and his role seems pretty evil.


If LC's story is true, that sucks. I feel bad for him, but he's still bad.

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

This. This here.

A good player could use that role in either affiliation. The fact that a role can be used in either affiliation doesn't make LC a civ.

Chuck, do you think the hosts told a probable GOC player, no, TWO probable GOC players since MP was eligible as well, about secret game mechanics in a Facebook messenger chat?

Tell me you believe this, and I will leave you be the rest of the day.

Linki @Golden thanks that is actually better than I expected.

[sprityo]

I think I want to give LC the benefit of the doubt, regardless of what’s been discussed

[S~V~S]

"I'm not trying to railroad Long Con and kill skepticism of his lynch"

Spoiler: show

If his story is true it negates the first part of your case, and I disagree that a role that rewards voting for mafia is "evil", so as you can see I'm in a bit of a spot. But LC doesn't seem to have two shits to rub together so at this point neither do I.

How would a civ effectively use that role?

Unknowingly for a minute or two and then as a semi-cop.

I was using it as a cop by Day 2, dude.

Why do you think I wanted a tie?

This. This here.

A good player could use that role in either affiliation. The fact that a role can be used in either affiliation doesn't make LC a civ.

Chuck, do you think the hosts told a probable GOC player, no, TWO probable GOC players since MP was eligible as well, about secret game mechanics in a Facebook messenger chat?

Tell me you believe this, and I will leave you be the rest of the day.

Linki @Golden thanks that is actually better than I expected.

How can you railroad someone you think is bad?

You railroad innocents. I think he's bad.

[DharmaHelper]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

[speedchuck]

Chuck, do you think the hosts told a probable GOC player, no, TWO probable GOC players since MP was eligible as well, about secret game mechanics in a Facebook messenger chat?

Tell me you believe this, and I will leave you be the rest of the day.

I don't believe that.

But I agree with LC. It's not like they told him of 2 mafia teams, an arsonist, an SK, when the tribes would merge, etc.

It's not the MOST believable thing. But neither is the slip. I find it, at this point, more likely that this conversation happened than that LC would make it up. Truth is stranger than fiction.

[Long Con]

Well, if four other people wanted to vote for Dom with Chuck, LC, and me, we could sort this shit out quick fast and in a hurry. Nobody "dies" dies, and we get an idea of whether or not Dom is on the up and up. LC's on his last life so he can go at any point.

Or we can keep our votes on LC and possibly lose a civ as our first death-death.

Dunno ...

"I'm okay with lynching LC"

I keep throwing him rope and he keeps telling me to fuck off so I'm cool with fucking off.

Whoa, hey dude, let's not be hasty. There was a rope? I like ropes.

[Dom]

Listen I could be totally wrong, but you are literally saying "yo guys lc's story is probably bullshit, but hey dom is bad amiright vote for him not the one we already voted for"

I dunno what you want out of me Dom. I'm just trying to square this whole thing up in my head. Best case scenario, you're right and it was a slip, and the completely unbelievable story of the Facebook Illuminati is not true and a lie. But there's a nonzero chance that you're wrong, LC is telling the truth, and forces outside the game resulted in him getting essentially taken out of the game. As a long time player of the game and someone who takes (in particular) Champs Games pretty seriously, I'm just trying to work out if I feel comfortable with the nonzero option.

And as I've mentioned, literally everyone other than you passed on the Cerberus slip assuming it was a hypothetical tribe name. So there's also a nonzero chance that you saw the slip and jumped on it without realizing you'd also be exposing information that YOU knew to be true.

There's also a nonzero chance that there are mafia jumping down the rabbit hole you've dug to blindly lynch LC, and both you and LC are innocent.

I'm just trying to be critical here, rather than simply saying "Fuck, cool I guess we got one." voting and going about my business.

You're not "just trying to be critical".

I support sound analysis.

You literally directed people to vote for me in particular.

[S~V~S]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

Why can't you acknowledge the fact that every single player knew about Tribes from the moment the game began? You calling it a "secret game mechanic", in that light, is just not accurate. And we weren't huddled together, discussing GOC 2017, we were chatting about other stuff, and juliets was like "that could be a tribe name!" I hate that you keep painting as you have been, because it's not at all accurate. If you're worried that there's some behind-the-scenes stuff going on between hosts and players that in any way affects or disrupts the game, then I give you my 100% assurance that there was not.

It was a secret before the game. No one knew about it, we were all surprised when it happened. Becasue Golden did not tell anyone about it becasue it was a secret. Once the game started, no it wasn't. But you are claiming this happened before the game when it WAS a secret.

[DharmaHelper]

Listen I could be totally wrong, but you are literally saying "yo guys lc's story is probably bullshit, but hey dom is bad amiright vote for him not the one we already voted for"

I dunno what you want out of me Dom. I'm just trying to square this whole thing up in my head. Best case scenario, you're right and it was a slip, and the completely unbelievable story of the Facebook Illuminati is not true and a lie. But there's a nonzero chance that you're wrong, LC is telling the truth, and forces outside the game resulted in him getting essentially taken out of the game. As a long time player of the game and someone who takes (in particular) Champs Games pretty seriously, I'm just trying to work out if I feel comfortable with the nonzero option.

And as I've mentioned, literally everyone other than you passed on the Cerberus slip assuming it was a hypothetical tribe name. So there's also a nonzero chance that you saw the slip and jumped on it without realizing you'd also be exposing information that YOU knew to be true.

There's also a nonzero chance that there are mafia jumping down the rabbit hole you've dug to blindly lynch LC, and both you and LC are innocent.

I'm just trying to be critical here, rather than simply saying "Fuck, cool I guess we got one." voting and going about my business.

You're not "just trying to be critical".

I support sound analysis.

You literally directed people to vote for me in particular.

Well, you got me there.

[S~V~S]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

How did I know this was coming?

Now I know why you never really brought Negan here but did bring him to Twin Peaks.

[speedchuck]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

Why can't you acknowledge the fact that every single player knew about Tribes from the moment the game began? You calling it a "secret game mechanic", in that light, is just not accurate. And we weren't huddled together, discussing GOC 2017, we were chatting about other stuff, and juliets was like "that could be a tribe name!" I hate that you keep painting as you have been, because it's not at all accurate. If you're worried that there's some behind-the-scenes stuff going on between hosts and players that in any way affects or disrupts the game, then I give you my 100% assurance that there was not.

It was a secret before the game. No one knew about it, we were all surprised when it happened. Becasue Golden did not tell anyone about it becasue it was a secret. Once the game started, no it wasn't. But you are claiming this happened before the game when it WAS a secret.

Funny enough, secrets before the game don't affect the game much.

If I was running a game with LC in it, and the game had item elections every day (not written in the host post), I'd have no problem revealing that secret to him.

[DharmaHelper]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

How did I know this was coming?

Now I know why you never really brought Negan here but did bring him to Twin Peaks.

You told me Negan bothered you fam.

[Long Con]

then why don't either role on the front page talk about evolving at all?

17: Refridgerator (Haiku). Each night, you may choose one player who must post in haiku for the entire following day phase. At least 10 haiku must be posted. Unless the hosts deem that they have failed to meet the haiku requirement sufficiently, no votes cast against that player will count during that day.

15: Cecil (Welcome to Night Vale). Each night, you can write a news article to be published in the thread via the host.

no mention of evolving positively or negatively

That's a very good question. I do not know the answer, it's been something I have wondered about since the game began, and still do. I do know the answer of whether or not I have a new role now that you bitches strung me up, but I assume that telling you that answer would be infodumping. *rereads post* Huh. Sometimes the answer requires making your own connections.

An another same note: maybe if any of you have the word "evolve" in your role, you could put forth a theory on this?

[speedchuck]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

How did I know this was coming?

Now I know why you never really brought Negan here but did bring him to Twin Peaks.

TP has LMS elements. GoC is a mafia game.

Negan isn't all that civvy-feeling.

linki: I'm doing the mouthpiece thing. Come on, nutella. Let's go to Mouth-of-Sauron anonymous.

[Long Con]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

Why can't you acknowledge the fact that every single player knew about Tribes from the moment the game began? You calling it a "secret game mechanic", in that light, is just not accurate. And we weren't huddled together, discussing GOC 2017, we were chatting about other stuff, and juliets was like "that could be a tribe name!" I hate that you keep painting as you have been, because it's not at all accurate. If you're worried that there's some behind-the-scenes stuff going on between hosts and players that in any way affects or disrupts the game, then I give you my 100% assurance that there was not.

It was a secret before the game. No one knew about it, we were all surprised when it happened. Becasue Golden did not tell anyone about it becasue it was a secret. Once the game started, no it wasn't. But you are claiming this happened before the game when it WAS a secret.

Oh, a semantics secret. I see. Either way, something that has zero effect on the game, which I believe is the purpose for real secrets.

[DharmaHelper]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

How did I know this was coming?

Now I know why you never really brought Negan here but did bring him to Twin Peaks.

TP has LMS elements. GoC is a mafia game.

Negan isn't all that civvy-feeling.

linki: I'm doing the mouthpiece thing. Come on, nutella. Let's go to Mouth-of-Sauron anonymous.

That's also a good point tho I did mess around a bit early game here with Negan, but not too much cuz I didn't want to upset SVS. And also because while fun it didn't quite fit. And also because TP was starting and it fits better there from a genral game sense (Smaller game, looser set up)

Anyway I'd feel super great once we get past this whole LC/Facebook thing. I think it's a distraction.

[S~V~S]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

Why can't you acknowledge the fact that every single player knew about Tribes from the moment the game began? You calling it a "secret game mechanic", in that light, is just not accurate. And we weren't huddled together, discussing GOC 2017, we were chatting about other stuff, and juliets was like "that could be a tribe name!" I hate that you keep painting as you have been, because it's not at all accurate. If you're worried that there's some behind-the-scenes stuff going on between hosts and players that in any way affects or disrupts the game, then I give you my 100% assurance that there was not.

It was a secret before the game. No one knew about it, we were all surprised when it happened. Becasue Golden did not tell anyone about it becasue it was a secret. Once the game started, no it wasn't. But you are claiming this happened before the game when it WAS a secret.

Funny enough, secrets before the game don't affect the game much.

If I was running a game with LC in it, and the game had item elections every day (not written in the host post), I'd have no problem revealing that secret to him.

I think Golden would though.

Everything he is saying the hosts did is utterly NOT what either of them would do. Ever.

There is a simple way to resolve this. LC is a graphics guy, he knows how to take a screenshot.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

I decided to play this, worried I could not handle an adversarial situation with a few people, and lo, it has come to pass. So I am going to walk away for at least today, maybe even tomorrow. I will check periodically for those pictures, though.

linki, NOT A SEMANTICS SECRET. No one knew there were tribes before the game started. Discussing tribe names with you when no one knew there were tribes was discussing ACTUAL secrets. You got caught. Stop trying to make other people feel stupid for saying so.

[Dom]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

How did I know this was coming?

Now I know why you never really brought Negan here but did bring him to Twin Peaks.

TP has LMS elements. GoC is a mafia game.

Negan isn't all that civvy-feeling.

linki: I'm doing the mouthpiece thing. Come on, nutella. Let's go to Mouth-of-Sauron anonymous.

That's also a good point tho I did mess around a bit early game here with Negan, but not too much cuz I didn't want to upset SVS. And also because while fun it didn't quite fit. And also because TP was starting and it fits better there from a genral game sense (Smaller game, looser set up)

Anyway I'd feel super great once we get past this whole LC/Facebook thing. I think it's a distraction.

Says the person who has spent approximately 3 days yelling about this.

[Dom]

I don't think LC's alignment is even dependent on his telling the truth at this point.

[DharmaHelper]

If what's been discussed today had been discussed yesterday I would have lynched either Dom or SVS tbh.

How did I know this was coming?

Now I know why you never really brought Negan here but did bring him to Twin Peaks.

TP has LMS elements. GoC is a mafia game.

Negan isn't all that civvy-feeling.

linki: I'm doing the mouthpiece thing. Come on, nutella. Let's go to Mouth-of-Sauron anonymous.

That's also a good point tho I did mess around a bit early game here with Negan, but not too much cuz I didn't want to upset SVS. And also because while fun it didn't quite fit. And also because TP was starting and it fits better there from a genral game sense (Smaller game, looser set up)

Anyway I'd feel super great once we get past this whole LC/Facebook thing. I think it's a distraction.

Says the person who has spent approximately 3 days yelling about this.

Fuck, got me again

[speedchuck]

Does anyone think the Hosts told LC about a secret game mechanic (the existence of tribes in the GOC) in a chat on Facebook with MP, who presumably was also eligible for this game, having had 6 wins in 2017? Really?

If so, I am a tad annoyed at Jules, who is actually a friend, for not including me in this little conversation

Why can't you acknowledge the fact that every single player knew about Tribes from the moment the game began? You calling it a "secret game mechanic", in that light, is just not accurate. And we weren't huddled together, discussing GOC 2017, we were chatting about other stuff, and juliets was like "that could be a tribe name!" I hate that you keep painting as you have been, because it's not at all accurate. If you're worried that there's some behind-the-scenes stuff going on between hosts and players that in any way affects or disrupts the game, then I give you my 100% assurance that there was not.

It was a secret before the game. No one knew about it, we were all surprised when it happened. Becasue Golden did not tell anyone about it becasue it was a secret. Once the game started, no it wasn't. But you are claiming this happened before the game when it WAS a secret.

Funny enough, secrets before the game don't affect the game much.

If I was running a game with LC in it, and the game had item elections every day (not written in the host post), I'd have no problem revealing that secret to him.

I think Golden would though.

Everything he is saying the hosts did is utterly NOT what either of them would do. Ever.

There is a simple way to resolve this. LC is a graphics guy, he knows how to take a screenshot.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

I decided to play this, worried I could not handle an adversarial situation with a few people, and lo, it has come to pass. So I am going to walk away for at least today, maybe even tomorrow. I will check periodically for those pictures, though.

linki, NOT A SEMANTICS SECRET. No one knew there were tribes before the game started. Discussing tribe names with you when no one knew there were tribes was discussing ACTUAL secrets. You got caught. Stop trying to make other people feel stupid for saying so.

I am sorry about the adversarial nature of our conversations. I don't want to upset you.

Admittedly, you know Golden better than I do.
I don't think LC can provide pics, in the spirit of the game. He would need to ask the host first.
I disagree with your linki. Alas, no remedy for that, for I understand what you are saying. But I think there is a difference.

[Long Con]

I don't think LC's alignment is even dependent on his telling the truth at this point.

Says the guy who actually slipped.

[speedchuck]

I don't think LC's alignment is even dependent on his telling the truth at this point.

Says the guy who actually slipped.

This sounds like how I would play if I got cornered over bull****. As either alignment.