Thank you.sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:05 pm @Dom
Pretty good summary for our end, a button was pushed and the groups got mixed up. Annnnnd are you mafia?
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:00 pm Brief summary--or at least comments on the players who are still here:
We were really sucking at successfully lynching anyone. Until we had a unanimous vote on Marmot (including Marmot) during day 7. Until then, we weren't sure we actually could lynch anyone.
Jack was killed during the last night cycle, the first second death on our beach. He was certainly saying that he was civ (as you can read), and didn't have any real current suspicion, as far as I know.
There is lingering suspicion of Boomslang, leftover from the start of the game. Personally, I wasn't suspecting him, mainly because I didn't think that he'd nk niju. But, after LC's reveal, the general assumption here has seemed to be that there is more than one mafia (since he was identified as a member of the Evil Evens, and not just general mafia (implying more than one).
Wilgy has had a good deal of suspicion
INH has had ongoing suspicion.
Niju has has some suspicion, mainly because of an odd comment she made about not realizing that her early BTSC partner (nutella) was on the other beach. But she cleared that up, mostly. She's off my radar for the moment, at least. While I am not basing much on first roles, given the connection between her role and LA's, and the fact that the hosts have said that the first role and second roles are paired, my gut tells me that they are indy or neutral.
Sig had a lot of votes (relative) the other day. Then he was nk-ed. Suspicion of him has largely faded, especially since once he became active in the game again, his posts have seemed pretty civ. For some, it could also be because of his role--my own personal bias is that the roles tell us nothing about alignment and that we can't/shouldn't assume anything based on them.
There was some earlier suspicion of me, as per usual. Sloonei posted that he was no longer suspicious of me. No idea how sig is currently feeling. They're the 2 I remember mentioning it.
I have a thousand questions for the other beach dwellers. But, I need to go finish a paper that is due today and I should really finish that.
I notice colonialbob is listed as in this tribe, but he isn't on the poll. Have people been not on the polls in your former tribe?
linkitis:Nope.
I don't think she ever speculated who would kill her. There was some initial conversation about it, but no conclusions.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:19 pm Hi Cerberii !
Does Nijuu have any clue who would kill her? Epi was obsessed with this trying to figure out who was bad day 2 based on Nijuu getting NKed.
Also how many bad teams you all think we have? I think two different kills, I think the day 1/3 kills were made by someone with a different mindset than the 2/4 kills. I was killed by the same (presumably) team as the 2/4 kills, INH and Scotty. I was moderately aggressive in lynching LC, so i was guessing they went for me for revenge.
Best theories on who killed who and why?
I think we have 2 teams, personally. More than 2 would be unbalanced, and I agree that there is more than one mafia (as I said above). I also read the "evil evens" as implying that they kill on even nights.
We also had a good deal of speculation that the mafias are not complete teams. Because of ambiguity in the rules, which implies that one's first role is not necessarily aligned the same as the second. And the line "mafia players who have BTSC," which could be read that there are mafia members who do not have BTSC, there is some belief that some players join the mafia after their first role. Or are mafia who don't have BTSC with the rest of their team.
As for speculation on kill motivations, 1-Niju: no idea. 2-Scotty was reading pretty civ, I think, so kill was likely based on that. 3- Jack was reading pretty civ, as well. 4-no kill. 5-Sig-really weird target, since he had a lot of suspicion. 6-SVS-you commented on that above, the one nk from your beach. 7-Jack. My gut says that the mafia that I assume targeted him twice (both odd nights), either because he was a thorn in their side or because they had reason to believe or knowledge that he was civ.
INH was also day killed--and we're not sure what's up with that. It seemed like a civ-related ninja type kill, as suspicion was high on him at the time. Since he was the nurse (and glad you didn't infect anyone!), some felt he may be civ. But, as I said, I'm not putting much on the first roles in terms of assuming they are civ/mafia, and as it seems that someone can become evil during the game.
OK....I really need to finish my paper now...
linkitis again: Thanks for the clarification on your feelings of me, sig.
(I'm not mafia)
Not surprised in the slightest.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:54 pmnutella has died. She was:
You are 16: Fox news (BLUE vs RED). Once, at any time, you may choose a player whose role and affiliation will be announced in the thread. If that player is mafia, they will be announced to be a civilian. If that player is civilian, they will be announced to be mafia. If that player is independent, your shot will fail. The player may not be from your team. You are MAFIA and a member of the EVIL EVENS.
Day 8 continues.
I don't remember much about this lynch, but I doubt there was much else manipulating the vote counts.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:57 pm This makes me feel somewhat better about Chuck, as it says the target cannot be on the Nutella team, and if bad, Chuck would most def be on the Evens. When I first saw it my immediate reaction was, well, there you go. But I seriously doubt there is more than one false flip role. Unless LCs power extended beyond death.
I do remember LC and Nutella speculating about whether the Nutella/Nijuu pairing was bad/civ, and about how that might work.
Pikachus, what is your recollection of the DDL/Nutella lynch? This was the final vote:
Dragon D Luffy
Voters: Epignosis, colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, DharmaHelper, Long Con
nutella
Voters: Dom, Dragon D. Luffy, S~V~S
Quin and sprit didn't vote.
DDL's oroginal role started him with a -2 vote, and every night he picked a player that also started the next day with -2. LC also had a vote manip role.
At first DDL was lynched, but the next day they announced Nutella had been lynched. We now know Nutella and LC were teammates.
This is mega confusing, hopefully someone else shows up to help figure it out.
Do you think DDL is on Nutella's team?
They might have been aiming ofr a tie.
My thoughts exactly....Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:18 pmBut speedchuck's role was exposed as town. If nutella did that, doesn't that make him mafia?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:57 pm This makes me feel somewhat better about Chuck, as it says the target cannot be on the Nutella team, and if bad, Chuck would most def be on the Evens. When I first saw it my immediate reaction was, well, there you go. But I seriously doubt there is more than one false flip role. Unless LCs power extended beyond death.
I do remember LC and Nutella speculating about whether the Nutella/Nijuu pairing was bad/civ, and about how that might work.
Pikachus, what is your recollection of the DDL/Nutella lynch? This was the final vote:
Dragon D Luffy
Voters: Epignosis, colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, DharmaHelper, Long Con
nutella
Voters: Dom, Dragon D. Luffy, S~V~S
Quin and sprit didn't vote.
DDL's oroginal role started him with a -2 vote, and every night he picked a player that also started the next day with -2. LC also had a vote manip role.
At first DDL was lynched, but the next day they announced Nutella had been lynched. We now know Nutella and LC were teammates.
This is mega confusing, hopefully someone else shows up to help figure it out.
Why would he do that?
Nutella had fallen off the radar.
I'm confused by this...
I'm not sure what you mean.
SVS-- I definitely get what you're saying here. Do you think he's LC's teammate?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:26 pmQuin and I want to lynch DDL. If you look at the lynch here in Cerberus, his vote for a tangent looks even baddier. You have been suspecting him on and off, right?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:18 pm I've been gone all weekend. Sorry about that. What are we doing?