Pikachu Tribe - Day 9

[DharmaHelper]

A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

OK.

Who from Cerberus do you think would nightkill an outted gossip role? Not counting Doc

The value in killing him is in the removal of a "confirmed" (I use that term loosely) civilian voice. Nobody was ever going to lynch sprityo, so it doesn't surprise me to see him killed eventually, but not early. That's all I mean.

I think anybody would kill sprityo. It's just good strategy at this stage.

Mkay. So...

Why do you think it took ~8 days to do the deed? Cerberus guys get here, and Sprityo gets popped. You're not willing to engage in a bit of kill theory here?

I just did. I'm sorry if you didn't like my conclusion.

"Kill theory" =/= "Agreeing with DH's theory"

"Anyone could do it" =/= a productive response to the question.

[Epignosis]

And never mind that the mafia didn't silence sprityo in the permanent fashion. All they accomplished was removing the near-certainty that sprityo was a civilian voice.

[Epignosis]

A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

OK.

Who from Cerberus do you think would nightkill an outted gossip role? Not counting Doc

The value in killing him is in the removal of a "confirmed" (I use that term loosely) civilian voice. Nobody was ever going to lynch sprityo, so it doesn't surprise me to see him killed eventually, but not early. That's all I mean.

I think anybody would kill sprityo. It's just good strategy at this stage.

Mkay. So...

Why do you think it took ~8 days to do the deed? Cerberus guys get here, and Sprityo gets popped. You're not willing to engage in a bit of kill theory here?

I just did. I'm sorry if you didn't like my conclusion.

"Kill theory" =/= "Agreeing with DH's theory"

"Anyone could do it" =/= a productive response to the question.

It's an honest response to the question.

Would you prefer a manufactured response?

[DharmaHelper]

So Epi spends a shitload of time game theorying shit on the Other Tribe that doesn't affect us at all but won't spend two minutes doing the same over here.

Yeah you guys are right Epi isn't susp. at all.

[Epignosis]

So Epi spends a shitload of time game theorying shit on the Other Tribe that doesn't affect us at all but won't spend two minutes doing the same over here.

Yeah you guys are right Epi isn't susp. at all.

I speculated on a Night 1 nijuukyugou kill, which I feel qualified to speculate on for a few reasons. It was a kill that, to my mind, didn't make much sense.

Killing sprityo at this stage (Night 8) makes sense to me.

[DharmaHelper]

So Epi spends a shitload of time game theorying shit on the Other Tribe that doesn't affect us at all but won't spend two minutes doing the same over here.

Yeah you guys are right Epi isn't susp. at all.

I speculated on a Night 1 nijuukyugou kill, which I feel qualified to speculate on for a few reasons. It was a kill that, to my mind, didn't make much sense.

Killing sprityo at this stage (Night 8) makes sense to me.

[Sloonei]

Paranoia is unnecessary and maybe even irresponsible right now. I know the tribal configuration are to be treated as more or less random, but we can assume that they're relatively balanced in terms of alignment distribution, or they were at the time of button-pushing.
We just eliminated two baddies on our first day together. Odds are this tribe is currently comprised predominantly of civilians. If there was ever a time to be calm and collected in a mafia game, it's now.

[Spacedaisy]

Top Five List of Things People Think Matter In Mafia But Actually They Dont

5. Rainbow Lists
4. Meta
3. Adverbs
2. Rainbow Lists Again
1. Rainbow Lists a Third Time.

Look I don't care if you agree with me. Last time I felt this way about Wilgy was in Mountain Mafia I believe, I couldn't get over the fact that Wilgy was playing so straightforward and... normal, really contributing a lot. I commented on it and everyone talked me out of, saying either "he's just being Wilgy" or saying "he's really contributing." So I backed off. And guess what his alignment was. Upon looking back he did the same thing as Tim Whatley in Seinfeld where he was also bad.

I don't usually depend so strongly on a meta, but I think dismissing them entirely as not mattering at all is foolish. And I refuse to be talked out of it this time. Until I feel there is a damn good reason to believe otherwise, I remain very convinced of his alignment in this game.

[DharmaHelper]

Paranoia is unnecessary and maybe even irresponsible right now. I know the tribal configuration are to be treated as more or less random, but we can assume that they're relatively balanced in terms of alignment distribution, or they were at the time of button-pushing.
We just eliminated two baddies on our first day together. Odds are this tribe is currently comprised predominantly of civilians. If there was ever a time to be calm and collected in a mafia game, it's now.

[DharmaHelper]

Top Five List of Things People Think Matter In Mafia But Actually They Dont

5. Rainbow Lists
4. Meta
3. Adverbs
2. Rainbow Lists Again
1. Rainbow Lists a Third Time.

Look I don't care if you agree with me. Last time I felt this way about Wilgy was in Mountain Mafia I believe, I couldn't get over the fact that Wilgy was playing so straightforward and... normal, really contributing a lot. I commented on it and everyone talked me out of, saying either "he's just being Wilgy" or saying "he's really contributing." So I backed off. And guess what his alignment was. Upon looking back he did the same thing as Tim Whatley in Seinfeld where he was also bad.

I don't usually depend so strongly on a meta, but I think dismissing them entirely as not mattering at all is foolish. And I refuse to be talked out of it this time. Until I feel there is a damn good reason to believe otherwise, I remain very convinced of his alignment in this game.

Who do you think from your tribe would kill Cecil

[Epignosis]

I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

[sprityo]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

[Epignosis]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

A bastard role?

As in a fucking evil bastard role?

[sprityo]

anyways, are we gung ho DrWilgy still?

also is anyone Haiku Cursed? if so that basically confirms DH as Refrigerator. at least in my eyes

[sprityo]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

A bastard role?

As in a fucking evil bastard role?

you'd be doing a favor by killing me, im not help at all unless i KNOW who mafia is

[sprityo]

even then at that point, it's all

[DharmaHelper]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

A bastard role?

As in a fucking evil bastard role?

you'd be doing a favor by killing me, im not help at all unless i KNOW who mafia is

Uh I know who mafia are I can help you.

[sprityo]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

A bastard role?

As in a fucking evil bastard role?

you'd be doing a favor by killing me, im not help at all unless i KNOW who mafia is

Uh I know who mafia are I can help you.

[Sloonei]

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

[sprityo]

Im on board with the above

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[DharmaHelper]

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with your already documented desire to lynch Doc.

If we're just gonna go "Hey lets lynch X and not talk about anything or anyone else" for like...the rest of the game... IDK.

[DharmaHelper]

I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

I'm almost 100% certain Speedchuck will not be lynched.

[Sloonei]

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with your already documented desire to lynch Doc.

If we're just gonna go "Hey lets lynch X and not talk about anything or anyone else" for like...the rest of the game... IDK.

My predetermined preference to lynch wilgy has to do with the 7 days I spent in the Cerberus thread with wilgy and the rest of us newcomers in which i came to feel good about all of them to varying degrees. I can't help it if the three players I have the most reason to read as town all came to this tribe.

Why can't it be wilgy?

[Epignosis]

I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

I'm almost 100% certain Speedchuck will not be lynched.

On what grounds?

[DharmaHelper]

I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

I'm almost 100% certain Speedchuck will not be lynched.

On what grounds?

Just going off the evidence we have.

[DharmaHelper]

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with your already documented desire to lynch Doc.

If we're just gonna go "Hey lets lynch X and not talk about anything or anyone else" for like...the rest of the game... IDK.

My predetermined preference to lynch wilgy has to do with the 7 days I spent in the Cerberus thread with wilgy and the rest of us newcomers in which i came to feel good about all of them to varying degrees. I can't help it if the three players I have the most reason to read as town all came to this tribe.

Why can't it be wilgy?

It could be I just don't think it is.

[Epignosis]

I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

I'm almost 100% certain Speedchuck will not be lynched.

On what grounds?

Just going off the evidence we have.

I'm so glad you aren't a gambler. For real.

[DharmaHelper]

Sloonei, besides Marmot and DrWilgy, who've been brought up here, were there any major suspects from your original tribe? I'm sorry if you already answered this elsewhere here.

Niju is player I was growing weary of. She was given a pass for a while because she was the first player nightkilled in the game, but that's clearly something that should be discarded at this point. I had a few substantial reasons for suspecting her that can't really be fleshed out here, and it's been a while since I looked at the other thread anyway.

LoRab was our "low-hanging fruit" option and for most of the game people have been trying to push a case against her, myself included, but I eventually dropped it myself. I don't know how others feel/felt about her.

Boomslang is a big shrug. Of all the players in this game, I think he's the one I am least familiar with. He didn't do anything to stand out as a civilian, but I couldn't find much that was explicitly suspicious about him either.

It was difficult to develop strong reads in our tribe because, until the very last day, we never lynched anybody and the players who were being killed were generally our town reads, the exceptions being sig and INH. we were just coming out of our pseudo-Day 1 phase when the button was pushed.

And you think a thread that couldn't lynch a single person over 8 days will be able to lynch Chuck?

Well I'm 1-for-1.

[Sloonei]

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with your already documented desire to lynch Doc.

If we're just gonna go "Hey lets lynch X and not talk about anything or anyone else" for like...the rest of the game... IDK.

My predetermined preference to lynch wilgy has to do with the 7 days I spent in the Cerberus thread with wilgy and the rest of us newcomers in which i came to feel good about all of them to varying degrees. I can't help it if the three players I have the most reason to read as town all came to this tribe.

Why can't it be wilgy?

It could be I just don't think it is.

How confident are you about this?

[DharmaHelper]

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with your already documented desire to lynch Doc.

If we're just gonna go "Hey lets lynch X and not talk about anything or anyone else" for like...the rest of the game... IDK.

My predetermined preference to lynch wilgy has to do with the 7 days I spent in the Cerberus thread with wilgy and the rest of us newcomers in which i came to feel good about all of them to varying degrees. I can't help it if the three players I have the most reason to read as town all came to this tribe.

Why can't it be wilgy?

It could be I just don't think it is.

How confident are you about this?

60/40 split

[Sloonei]

I am feeling more than 60% confident about wilgy.

Do you have any more substantial reasons not to suspect him, DH?

[DharmaHelper]

I am feeling more than 60% confident about wilgy.

Do you have any more substantial reasons not to suspect him, DH?

[Sloonei]

I am feeling more than 60% confident about wilgy.

Do you have any more substantial reasons not to suspect him, DH?

Where dat productive discussion at?

[Sloonei]

DH would be my next suspect after Wilgy.

[DharmaHelper]

DH would be my next suspect after Wilgy.

How so?

[Sloonei]

DH would be my next suspect after Wilgy.

How so?

Well for one you came in today by framing last night's kill as a vehicle for discussion in such a way that you are excluded from suspicion.

[DharmaHelper]

DH would be my next suspect after Wilgy.

How so?

Well for one you came in today by framing last night's kill as a vehicle for discussion in such a way that you are excluded from suspicion.

Obviously I'm not going to suspect myself.

[Epignosis]

I don't suspect DH. I think he's good, if only sometimes bewildered.

[sprityo]

I don't suspect DH. I think he's good, if only sometimes bewildered.

seconded

[Sloonei]

I don't suspect him either. I'm confident wilgy's bad and i wouldn't be surprised if the rest of us are currently civilians.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Damn the other tribe.

[Scotty]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

Are you a fucking stump? I know what it’s like to be a fucking stump

In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

Ding ding ding.

vote Wilgy[/vote] aubergine

[Scotty]

DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

[Scotty]

I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

I'm almost 100% certain Speedchuck will not be lynched.

On what grounds?

Just going off the evidence we have.

Yeah, if they didn’t get 5 votes with majority members of the original Pikachu tribe giving information on speedchuck’s badness yesterday, I don’t foresee a change.

We just gotta have merge or have Jeff to come in with another challenge that allows us to goku all up in the other tribe’s ass.

[Scotty]

That we haven’t had more than 1 kill on any given night is a good sign at least that there probably isn’t a serial killer. Or if there is, it isn’t activated yet.

Oh, and spritcecil- thanks for confirming you didn’t submit an action on N4. I guess that doesn’t help my idea that Marmot used his power.
It’s a moot point now, but yeah, we never heard your speeches on Bidoof. Only death posts.

[sprityo]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

Are you a fucking stump? I know what it’s like to be a fucking stump

i WISH i was a stump, i'd instantly activate

but sadly no im not. (you missed your opportunity in Phenon, i know )

[Scotty]

my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

Are you a fucking stump? I know what it’s like to be a fucking stump

i WISH i was a stump, i'd instantly activate

but sadly no im not. (you missed your opportunity in Phenon, i know )

Tbh I didn’t take full advantage of it in your game because I was mad busy and couldn’t keep track of the thread to be at all useful. #alltheregerts

[DharmaHelper]

DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

What you ought to be asking is why is everyone so not-resistant.

[Scotty]

DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

What you ought to be asking is why is everyone so not-resistant.

You’re like my uncle showing up to poker night and asking why everyone isn’t playing monopoly.

It’s because monopoly isn’t a game, it’s a simulation, and your car is blocking the driveway

[Epignosis]

DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

What you ought to be asking is why is everyone so not-resistant.

We're all bad. That's why. Get your little pencil out. Write down our names.