Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

[DharmaHelper]

I figure I might as well voice some input on the two recently revealed parts of this game which relate back to Blue Velvet Mafia, a game I hosted, and provide some context.

"Mutiny For 3" allowed three people to form a new independent team which must eliminate everyone else to win. DH and company basically used it to break the game, so I guess Golden and juliets nerfed it, making it so if more or less than three people tried to do it, it failed to occur. That seems to be what happened.

David Lynch isn't actually a role in Blue Velvet Mafia, but he did direct the film that the game was based on. He's known for being one of the most goddamn bizarre directors around, and is an all-around affable weirdo. He's probably my favorite director.

S~V~S and others have talked about certain mechanics which they feel Golden and Juliets "must" have included in the game to make things "fair." I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, but I will say that I'll be a little bit disappointed in them if they took David Lynch and made him a vanilla role. That's just ignoring a possible avenue of creativity, right there.

So, I think there's more than meets the eye with DH. This isn't necessarily something nefarious, but either his role appears vanilla, or he got turned vanilla by someone else. I realize that due to the info-dumping and role-claiming rules, DH can't really clear any of this up, but it's definitely something I'm keeping my eye on, and it influences my read of him.

I dunno.

[insertnamehere]

I figure I might as well voice some input on the two recently revealed parts of this game which relate back to Blue Velvet Mafia, a game I hosted, and provide some context.

"Mutiny For 3" allowed three people to form a new independent team which must eliminate everyone else to win. DH and company basically used it to break the game, so I guess Golden and juliets nerfed it, making it so if more or less than three people tried to do it, it failed to occur. That seems to be what happened.

David Lynch isn't actually a role in Blue Velvet Mafia, but he did direct the film that the game was based on. He's known for being one of the most goddamn bizarre directors around, and is an all-around affable weirdo. He's probably my favorite director.

S~V~S and others have talked about certain mechanics which they feel Golden and Juliets "must" have included in the game to make things "fair." I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, but I will say that I'll be a little bit disappointed in them if they took David Lynch and made him a vanilla role. That's just ignoring a possible avenue of creativity, right there.

So, I think there's more than meets the eye with DH. This isn't necessarily something nefarious, but either his role appears vanilla, or he got turned vanilla by someone else. I realize that due to the info-dumping and role-claiming rules, DH can't really clear any of this up, but it's definitely something I'm keeping my eye on, and it influences my read of him.

I dunno.

no hay banda?

[DharmaHelper]

Not sure what Crash Bandicoot has to do with anything.

[insertnamehere]

Voting for Speedchuck, as I feel like it will provide the most information out of all the options. Plus, if we don't get rid of him, people will just keep speculating about him endlessly. I want some resolution, dammit.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[Epignosis]

I think the irony of making David Lynch vanilla was what the hosts were aiming for. It's clever.

[DharmaHelper]

I think the irony of making David Lynch vanilla was what the hosts were aiming for. It's clever.

I mean, clever is certainly a word. That you used in this situation. In the sentence. I could think of several words. But clever is indeed, a word.

[insertnamehere]

I think the irony of making David Lynch vanilla was what the hosts were aiming for. It's clever.

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

you guys have a great lead with a lot of good avenues to follow. i've tried my best this game. don't screw it up.

I'll give some legacy hunting before I face the music.

[DharmaHelper]

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

you guys have a great lead with a lot of good avenues to follow. i've tried my best this game. don't screw it up.

I'll give some legacy hunting before I face the music.

Oh, good.

[S~V~S]

svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

Really? Well, because
You are hoping for a civ
to die in the night

For you to be made
clear by a flip then someone
else had to die, right?

You don't see how a
wish for a civvie to die
Is not town minded?

Baddies do this too
How is starting a wagon
Make one a townie?

It doesn't, by itself, but I have no idea what Dom was trying to accuse me of there.

Also, did you see my tag of you mentioning that it seems you can post in prose without any ill effect and just not gain the bonus?

Yes, I did, but its
more respectful to the host
to play out the curse

[DharmaHelper]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

[insertnamehere]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

:: scrawls in notepad ::

Any particular reason, or are you just feeling lucky?

[DharmaHelper]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

:: scrawls in notepad ::

Any particular reason, or are you just feeling lucky?

2+2 is 4 minus 1 that's 3 quick maffs.


Get it? Mafs.

[insertnamehere]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

:: scrawls in notepad ::

Any particular reason, or are you just feeling lucky?

2+2 is 4 minus 1 that's 3 quick maffs.


Get it? Mafs.

[VOTE: DHARMAHELPER]

[DharmaHelper]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

:: scrawls in notepad ::

Any particular reason, or are you just feeling lucky?

2+2 is 4 minus 1 that's 3 quick maffs.


Get it? Mafs.

[VOTE: DHARMAHELPER]

Man's not hot.

[speedchuck]

svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

Really? Well, because
You are hoping for a civ
to die in the night

For you to be made
clear by a flip then someone
else had to die, right?

You don't see how a
wish for a civvie to die
Is not town minded?

Baddies do this too
How is starting a wagon
Make one a townie?

It doesn't, by itself, but I have no idea what Dom was trying to accuse me of there.

Also, did you see my tag of you mentioning that it seems you can post in prose without any ill effect and just not gain the bonus?

Yes, I did, but its
more respectful to the host
to play out the curse

no, I do not understand. explain.

though given your position on haikus, we may just have different town values.

[sig]

sig fell for me in FE.

That's it?

So what's sig going to do? Lynch you in every game you two play together forever?

Yes?

[sprityo]

That smelly smell that smells.....smelly

[sprityo]

With the recent light of Speedchuck in FE having pulled the wool over my eyes, Nutella’s flip, and overall the circumstances of the game, Occam’s razor has me by the neck for this one

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

[Sloonei]

I know yesterday's lynch was just a result of speedchuck not being on the poll, but have we all just forgotten about wilgy? I don't oppose this lynch as it stands, but a little diversity in the conversation wouldn't be a bad thing.

not that i've contributed much since this thread opened.

[Epignosis]

I know yesterday's lynch was just a result of speedchuck not being on the poll, but have we all just forgotten about wilgy? I don't oppose this lynch as it stands, but a little diversity in the conversation wouldn't be a bad thing.

not that i've contributed much since this thread opened.

Okay.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Hey, it worked out last time.

[Scotty]

I know yesterday's lynch was just a result of speedchuck not being on the poll, but have we all just forgotten about wilgy? I don't oppose this lynch as it stands, but a little diversity in the conversation wouldn't be a bad thing.

not that i've contributed much since this thread opened.

In the case that there is lynch switch shenanigans, I don’t disagree with a Wilgy counterwagon

[DharmaHelper]

Lynch switch shenanigans

[LoRab]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

I’m not. Kyle very well could be.

[speedchuck]

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

linki I would lynch kyle

[DharmaHelper]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

I’m not. Kyle very well could be.

Everyday Man's on the block

[Epignosis]

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

[DharmaHelper]

Also, Bet money Kyle or Lorab are bad.

I’m not. Kyle very well could be.

Lorab's first post is Cerberus Tribe contained exactly zero twirl emojis she is mafia

[S~V~S]

svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

Really? Well, because
You are hoping for a civ
to die in the night

For you to be made
clear by a flip then someone
else had to die, right?

You don't see how a
wish for a civvie to die
Is not town minded?

Baddies do this too
How is starting a wagon
Make one a townie?

It doesn't, by itself, but I have no idea what Dom was trying to accuse me of there.

Also, did you see my tag of you mentioning that it seems you can post in prose without any ill effect and just not gain the bonus?

Yes, I did, but its
more respectful to the host
to play out the curse

no, I do not understand. explain.

though given your position on haikus, we may just have different town values.

Civs don't hope civs die
For their own self benefit
Civs don't hope civs die

Civs don't hope civs die
Civs don't hope other civs die
Civs don't hope civs die

[Epignosis]

I think S~V~S is trying to tell you something, speedchuck.

[Epignosis]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

[DharmaHelper]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

You tell him, when I see him, I'm gonna spin his jaw.

[S~V~S]

though given your position on haikus, we may just have different town values.

Cursing roles are fun
For the Curser (even if
Cursed pitches a fit)

It's disappointing
When a target tries to play
curses, for the curser

But I'm not Judging
Working around a curse can
be a civ challenge

It's just not something
I would do, but that is me
Yeah, Coo coo ka chew

[Dom]

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine


I like Epi's analysis on this. Convinced me we shoudln't wait.

@Scotty

You're voting for Speedchuck without even knowing about his role reveal post?

Y’know I was confusing speed with nutella. I knew he was a doctor. Made that argument that he could have easily been a mafia doctor with 2 teams and this many roles.

Epi disagreed.

Anyway, regardless of his role, he should be lynched today

Regardless of his first role? Or his present role? Or the fact that he revealed as town? I'm not sure exactly what you meant there.

His first role.

Oh!!!!! Right! I totally forgot his role was revealed. I have it in my mind that it was just his alignment and got caught up in that.

Anyway, doesn’t matter

...then why do you want to lynch him?

[Quin]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[speedchuck]

svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

Really? Well, because
You are hoping for a civ
to die in the night

For you to be made
clear by a flip then someone
else had to die, right?

You don't see how a
wish for a civvie to die
Is not town minded?

Baddies do this too
How is starting a wagon
Make one a townie?

It doesn't, by itself, but I have no idea what Dom was trying to accuse me of there.

Also, did you see my tag of you mentioning that it seems you can post in prose without any ill effect and just not gain the bonus?

Yes, I did, but its
more respectful to the host
to play out the curse

no, I do not understand. explain.

though given your position on haikus, we may just have different town values.

Civs don't hope civs die
For their own self benefit
Civs don't hope civs die

Civs don't hope civs die
Civs don't hope other civs die
Civs don't hope civs die

If civ is going to die anyway during the night
If civs are going down one by one as is the nature of the game
If a civ gets mislynched despite best intentions

I can hope it's the right one so that town can avoid another mislynch and I can contribute to the game.

[speedchuck]

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

Back on my computer.

I dislike that people are saying "Speed looks town, but he's unreadable because he fooled me before."
It sets a bad precedent.

[speedchuck]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

[DharmaHelper]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

[Epignosis]

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

Back on my computer.

I dislike that people are saying "Speed looks town, but he's unreadable because he fooled me before."
It sets a bad precedent.

That's not why you have a hundred votes.

[DharmaHelper]

FUCK the day's not over till Sunday?!

[speedchuck]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

I am paraphrasing the person above me.

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

Back on my computer.

I dislike that people are saying "Speed looks town, but he's unreadable because he fooled me before."
It sets a bad precedent.

That's not why you have a hundred votes.

That is what I said. Just above. Right there. I'll highlight it.

[Epignosis]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

I am paraphrasing the person above me.

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

Back on my computer.

I dislike that people are saying "Speed looks town, but he's unreadable because he fooled me before."
It sets a bad precedent.

That's not why you have a hundred votes.

That is what I said. Just above. Right there. I'll highlight it.

My point is that you don't need to tell them they already have a reason.

Do you suspect these people or not? Who are they? What would you accuse them of being?

[S~V~S]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

Yes you will show town
But you won't *BE* town; wishing
civs dead isn't town

[speedchuck]

At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

Yes you will show town
But you won't *BE* town; wishing
civs dead isn't town

I can't even talk to you right now. This is ridiculous for about 5 different reasons.

[speedchuck]

Do you suspect these people or not? Who are they? What would you accuse them of being?

It annoys me. It's taking a good town performance, of which I have few, and throwing it in the trash.

No, I don't really suspect Sprit. Maybe Sig. I wouldn't make any accusations based on this.

[speedchuck]

IDK. Maybe I'll feel like supahtowning tomorrow. Maybe not. I'm just weary right now.

When people were listening to me, and hell, listening to logic, I could talk. I could discuss. But when people are saying things
like
"There are no assumptions whatsoever we must make for Speedchuck to be scum"
and
"Speed looks towny but that doesn't matter because he looks towny when scum"
and
"Town people can't hope for certain civ flips"
and
"Speed will flip town but will still be scum because of convoluted role nonsense that must exist because I said so"

It makes me feel like I'm wasting effort, throwing logic into the void for it to be devoured by the pitchfork-laden mob. I can deal with people being wrong, but not people being illogical.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

You know, I feel like lynching wilgy instead.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Scum role is scum.

[S~V~S]

Do you suspect these people or not? Who are they? What would you accuse them of being?

It annoys me. It's taking a good town performance, of which I have few, and throwing it in the trash.

No, I don't really suspect Sprit. Maybe Sig. I wouldn't make any accusations based on this.

Why did you defend
LC so damn hard? Too hard.
I Can't get over that

Especially
With his role. I can't do it.
Tinfoil SVS