Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
If you have no opinion, then how did you get his name out of your magician’s hat?
And you’re not a new player. You’ve been around as long as I have. You’re not catching up like Kyle
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
If you have no opinion, then how did you get his name out of your magician’s hat?
And you’re not a new player. You’ve been around as long as I have. You’re not catching up like Kyle
Because he's someone who other people are naming as a suspect. I've had no firm reason to read him as town, but I also don't have a firm reason to read him as scum.
I'm not catching up like Kyle. I'm not going to. I don't like catching up. It's a waste of time and I prefer to work my way back into games directly with conversation.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:37 am
What is the reason for voting Boomslang? What team do you think he's on, and what do you make of Marmot's aggression toward him?
His vote on Wilgy was the ultimate in "hello fellow townies", judging by his posts in this thread.
Sorry, I'm not reading the entire Cerberus thread plus Pikachu post-swap. You can either have me paeticipate, or have me read, but certainly not both. If somebody can point me to prior Boomslang case/suspicion on Wilgy I'll move my vote.
This is the post in
Which you judge Boomslang for what
You did not look for
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:07 pm
"Wilgy isn't bad but I'm going to lynch him anyway"
Nah. That doesn't fly.
[VOTE:
INH] aubergine
This is the post in
You know what? You were trying
To save bad Wilgy
colonialbob votes for for Boomslang because Boomslang voted for wilgy, but colonialbob has not bothered to do his research into whether or not there is an established reason for Boomslang to vote for wilgy. Noted. I can get behind that.
Do you have any extra thoughts that aren't in haiku?
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:25 pm
So is refrigerator the same person who is removing people from the poll?
I thought it was just they wouldn’t receive votes if they posted 10 qualifying haikus
no, you are correct. I keep thinking that role is one and the same.
I have no idea who the removing from the poll is. Could have been a pizza effect via sig? Or something else? Haven't seen it happen since speed was removed. Has it happened any other time?
I mean, hell, someone is obviously wearing a skin suit of Ben- don't know why he started showing up now.
Alive
colonialbob
Dom
Epignosis Quin sprityo S~V~S
exactly so one of Dom and Epi is Refrigerator and the other is the one who removes people from the polls
now think. who would remove speedchuck from the poll?
I think youre right in Dom being Refrigerator, Epi is the poll remover
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:24 pm
Not really. Whereas INH came out with a massive defense of Wilgy, colonialbob did it subtly and at a time when he could be successful with it.
im interpreting this as negative points to Cbob from you then?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:25 pm
So is refrigerator the same person who is removing people from the poll?
I thought it was just they wouldn’t receive votes if they posted 10 qualifying haikus
no, you are correct. I keep thinking that role is one and the same.
I have no idea who the removing from the poll is. Could have been a pizza effect via sig? Or something else? Haven't seen it happen since speed was removed. Has it happened any other time?
I mean, hell, someone is obviously wearing a skin suit of Ben- don't know why he started showing up now.
Alive
colonialbob
Dom
Epignosis Quin sprityo S~V~S
exactly so one of Dom and Epi is Refrigerator and the other is the one who removes people from the polls
now think. who would remove speedchuck from the poll?
I think youre right in Dom being Refrigerator, Epi is the poll remover
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:08 pm
hey who you gonna vote for today?
That's the $64,000 question innit?
I lean Wilgy/speedchuck/inh I think. Wilgy's first role seems bad, and it doesn't sound like we'll get more from him to convince us he's town. Speedchuck has been posting townie, but mechanics > reads (and read over the end of FE if you doubt he can pull that off as mafia). Inh never really addressed the reason for my vote, and I don't know whether the anger is more likely to be townie or mafia.
I plan on doing some isos tomorrow now that I have time, so hopefully that will help me sort through some of this.
playa salad, leaves wilgy in there while providing himself tons of room to avoid committing to the lynch. Also later accuses INH of "distancing from the wilgy lynch" because... INH voted for wilgy. This seems like a convoluted argument from a player who is currently wriggling away from a wilgy vote.
I could see this being baddie behavior, but I am still left asking if anyone would bother to act to save wilgy. This doesn't appear like an active or busy save attempt, but it does seem like a passive resistance to the idea, even though all signs were pointing that way. It's like cbob was treating wilgy as bait to catch scum rather than as scum himself.
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:25 pm
So is refrigerator the same person who is removing people from the poll?
I thought it was just they wouldn’t receive votes if they posted 10 qualifying haikus
no, you are correct. I keep thinking that role is one and the same.
I have no idea who the removing from the poll is. Could have been a pizza effect via sig? Or something else? Haven't seen it happen since speed was removed. Has it happened any other time?
I mean, hell, someone is obviously wearing a skin suit of Ben- don't know why he started showing up now.
Alive
colonialbob
Dom
Epignosis Quin sprityo S~V~S
exactly so one of Dom and Epi is Refrigerator and the other is the one who removes people from the polls
now think. who would remove speedchuck from the poll?
I think youre right in Dom being Refrigerator, Epi is the poll remover
i did see someone mention how we havent seen haikus recently, but that could be attributed to saying to not perform the action
either youre not confirming my conclusion or youre saying it's the other way around.
ill go with the former
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm
You all are terrible at this.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does it feel to be the Best Civilian Player on the Syndicate?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
. . .
no.
I won't.
Who do you suspect and why?
Why shouldn't I lynch you today?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
. . .
no.
I won't.
Who do you suspect and why?
Why shouldn't I lynch you today?
Where's your back bone?
I suspect Kyle because I believe that there is one Even among the remaining members of Pikachu 2.0. However it seems that he is not an option today. Therefore I am seeking an alternative, but people are being unresponsive to my efforts to engage with them on that.
MacDougall had been unusually quiet in recent times. He had locked himself up in an airlocked room, eating only replicated food. He had taken to using Morse Code, tapping on pipes, to tell his acolytes what to do next.
--.- ..- .. - tapped MacDougall.
The acolytes consulted their chart. "Quit?" they said. "Are we so bad that he has lost faith in us entirely?"
14: The Man in the Tan Jacket (Welcome to Night Vale). You are immune to all powers and effects, positive or negative, other than kills.
It is now day 13. It will last for 48 hours.
I don't know who killed me.
But I will look for you.
I will find you.
And I will shit in your corn flakes.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
actually i dont mind my new role is like 10 times better than that
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Ben Linus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:43 pm
Oh, looks like it's Day.
That means Quin (number 5) and Spacedaisy (number 9) are handcuffed and must vote the same way today.
I also need someone to enter the code into the hatch computer. Quickly now!
um no you can shove it
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:06 pm
So Quin, guess we work together today. Who are you feeling a vote for? I'm sure we can settle on someone we both are comfortable with. I hope.
I mean, we're as cool as this dog...
That's one very cool dog.
See? We got this Quin.
oh i feel bad now.
you wanna lynch scotty again? we can lynch scotty again.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
I'm im not as confident if Scotty. I haven't dismissed him entirely but... I'm not as confident. If you insist we should vote that way I will but I'd like to be sure we've explored all options here.
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:37 pm
I'm im not as confident if Scotty. I haven't dismissed him entirely but... I'm not as confident. If you insist we should vote that way I will but I'd like to be sure we've explored all options here.
Alright. Who should I make die instead?
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Why did two mafia teams keep the closest thing to a confirmed townie (me) alive for 12 days? This is what I'd like to know.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:41 pm
Why did two mafia teams keep the closest thing to a confirmed townie (me) alive for 12 days? This is what I'd like to know.
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:41 pm
Why did two mafia teams keep the closest thing to a confirmed townie (me) alive for 12 days? This is what I'd like to know.
Killing you adds bonus confirmation.
But it also takes away my near-confirmed status.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
I can't remember any suspects I've let go of recently. Probably not the case that it was a matter of waiting for me to move on from a scumspect before killing me.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:41 pm
Why did two mafia teams keep the closest thing to a confirmed townie (me) alive for 12 days? This is what I'd like to know.
I think one mafia team isn't paying attention, and I think the other didn't find you to be much of a threat.
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:41 pm
Why did two mafia teams keep the closest thing to a confirmed townie (me) alive for 12 days? This is what I'd like to know.
I think one mafia team isn't paying attention, and I think the other didn't find you to be much of a threat.
well that's rude
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Which mafia team isn't paying attention? I don't hate your suggestion though. The only suspects I've promoted have been DDL, Scotty and Sloonei (to a much lesser degree). If they're all good it's an easy distance kill.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:52 pm
Which mafia team isn't paying attention? I don't hate your suggestion though. The only suspects I've promoted have been DDL, Scotty and Sloonei (to a much lesser degree). If they're all good it's an easy distance kill.
I'm entertaining a Quinfoil where INH killed me. "Scum would leave their biggest advocates alive so as to not spook them, so that's exactly why I'll kill him".
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:06 pm
So Quin, guess we work together today. Who are you feeling a vote for? I'm sure we can settle on someone we both are comfortable with. I hope.
I mean, we're as cool as this dog...
That's one very cool dog.
See? We got this Quin.
huh... that dog *is* cool.
cool cool cool cool cool cool dog
thank you for this dog(?)
Quin, I would prefer to lynch Kyle. I'd be ok with voting DDL, cbob, Boomslang or Scotty. Maybe even INH. Those are the people I don't actively have reason to believe they are good. I either suspect them or have no firm opinion.
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:06 pm
So Quin, guess we work together today. Who are you feeling a vote for? I'm sure we can settle on someone we both are comfortable with. I hope.
I mean, we're as cool as this dog...
That's one very cool dog.
See? We got this Quin.
huh... that dog *is* cool.
cool cool cool cool cool cool dog
thank you for this dog(?)
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:11 am
Quin, I would prefer to lynch Kyle. I'd be ok with voting DDL, cbob, Boomslang or Scotty. Maybe even INH. Those are the people I don't actively have reason to believe they are good. I either suspect them or have no firm opinion.
I've seen a lot about him not being involved or struggling to get involved. Can you point me to something more elaborate?
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
. . .
no.
I won't.
Who do you suspect and why?
Why shouldn't I lynch you today?
Where's your back bone?
I suspect Kyle because I believe that there is one Even among the remaining members of Pikachu 2.0. However it seems that he is not an option today. Therefore I am seeking an alternative, but people are being unresponsive to my efforts to engage with them on that.
You shouldn't lynch me because I'm town.
My backbone is lodged appropriately in my back.
so...
like....
why should i lynch someone not named sloonei.
Quin, I'm still at the Kyle or Scotty point. If it's not Scotty it's Kyle and vice versa. Meeehhhh. There is a chance my reason for holding back on Scotty is not what I think it is. I'd prefer one of those two but would vote any of the others.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
If you have no opinion, then how did you get his name out of your magician’s hat?
And you’re not a new player. You’ve been around as long as I have. You’re not catching up like Kyle
Because he's someone who other people are naming as a suspect. I've had no firm reason to read him as town, but I also don't have a firm reason to read him as scum.
I'm not catching up like Kyle. I'm not going to. I don't like catching up. It's a waste of time and I prefer to work my way back into games directly with conversation.
i have not found my
time catching up to be a
weak experience
reading all the shit
first-hand has given context
to strangers' viewpoints
hey sloonei what was....
the last game where you were bad
when was it, my dude?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm
I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.
Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
If you have no opinion, then how did you get his name out of your magician’s hat?
And you’re not a new player. You’ve been around as long as I have. You’re not catching up like Kyle
Because he's someone who other people are naming as a suspect. I've had no firm reason to read him as town, but I also don't have a firm reason to read him as scum.
I'm not catching up like Kyle. I'm not going to. I don't like catching up. It's a waste of time and I prefer to work my way back into games directly with conversation.
i have not found my
time catching up to be a
weak experience
reading all the shit
first-hand has given context
to strangers' viewpoints
hey sloonei what was....
the last game where you were bad
when was it, my dude?
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:36 am
Quin, I'm still at the Kyle or Scotty point. If it's not Scotty it's Kyle and vice versa. Meeehhhh. There is a chance my reason for holding back on Scotty is not what I think it is. I'd prefer one of those two but would vote any of the others.
What's your beef with DDL?
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
We can move away from Scotty and Kyle for now if you want, Daisy. Any of the names you listed I'm at least interested in hearing about.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
DDL is someone I'm fairly indifferent about. I don't have an opinion. He's not someone that I have reason to trust. I will try to read up on him maybe tomorrow. How are you feeling about him currently?
Hey guys sorry for the crap activity. But I have an exam next sunday so it's not gonna get better anytime soon. I'll try to at least catch up today tho.
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:50 am
We can move away from Scotty and Kyle for now if you want, Daisy. Any of the names you listed I'm at least interested in hearing about.
OK this makes me feel like I am bashing my head into the wall for no reason.
I voted I will be back whenever lol.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:11 pm
I’ve bee heaistsnt to call Sloonei bad with a straight face because I have been with him throughout the rollercoaster. I’ve felt burned out around day 5-6 and I’ve had similar reads.
But the big thing that irks me about his play in general? Is he’s very quick to civ read someone, and is much more willing to be eased into reading someone as bad. Marmot was one thing. Then there’s everyone else. He’s definitely felt non commital the last week- he’s explained this for personal reasons, and yet he’s still active in the thread enough to respond to things and give opinions. It’s just that those opinions feel...I dunno...beige?
I’m not actively painting him in a bad light, and still view him as civ, but it’s not a very bright civ star at this juncture
I'm also bothered that Sloonei spent more posts explaining his low activity in this game than every other player combined.
And his activity wasn't even that bad.
One theory could be that he cares a whole lot about his image than he should, because hes bad.
Definition for bastard role is super broad, but it generally enconpasses roles that lie to players, force them to play in ways that feel wrong, or are generally unfair to play against. Id call SVS's and Bob's first roles bastard, as well as those roles from Nutella and LC that make people appear as wrong alignments.
Any role that you don't expect to see in a "balanced" and "competitive"l game, and it's common etiquette for hosts to at least let players know there will be bastard mechanics in the game.