Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Jackofhearts2005]

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Jack has very little to say and makes a lot of one-line posts. Then he plants a vote on Epi:

[VOTE: Vote Epignosis] aubergine

Eggplant.

But I don't see him engaging with Epi, or anyone else for that matter. This is an easy vote for a player who is acting strangely.

@Sloonei

I hear a rumor you might be bad this game. Tell me about that rumor.

(I’m happy with my Epi vote btw.)

He poked me last night with rumors of rumors. It went nowhere:

Linki: That’s not what I meant when I said “Tell me about that rumor.”

I’m not bad. Do you have reasons to think I might be?

I haven’t read any of your posts from before the last three or so pages so “not really.”

You have no thoughts on your accusers?

These questions feel directionless and empty. I could vote for Jack. Let's do it. [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Meh. You’ll blink first.

[sig]

Hey sig! Do you suspect Daisy and that's why you're saying that? Is nova your preferred lynch? If you had sole control over the lynch outcome, who would die?

I just saw someone mention lynching her, but no right now she's null. No nova isn't, I'd say I don't really have preferred lynch. I've got alot more civ reads than mafia. I see the reasoning for why speed could be bad so could go there or another low poster.

Someone asked me about mac and lc. Mac is a solid civ read right now LC is a civ lean. I think he's wrong on dunya and hasn't posted much of anything else that i remember.


The only issue ive got with dunya is her vote especially seeing how she's the second wagon.

[Turnip Head]

I think I trust you, TH. At least for now. Enjoy a town read.

Why though

You don't have to answer this @[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] . Let's be cool and shady greeks together

[Tangrowth]

I think I trust you, TH. At least for now. Enjoy a town read.

Why though

It's weak, but twofold: (1) I get a sense that he's being genuine across his posts; he's playing the game super casually, but he is also poking and prodding at anything he sees as noteworthy, and it's logical that TH would play this way coming back from a long absence. (2) If TH were bad, I think he would be playing less casually because he'd feel more pressure to put on his analytical game earlier than not; because he's capable of playing anywhere in the spectrum of super casual to super intense (I would know; I've seen it all at some point), he has to know that playing more towards this spectrum will be more likely to get him attention but he's doing it anyway which indicates to me he's being genuine about it.

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

This feels like a forced vote. Earlier when you mentioned me, you said that I was playing my Town meta by being quiet but now it's opposite. Which is it then ?

[speedchuck]

I'm looking to possibly move my vote and the only two options that really matter at this point (I'll be completely AFK for the last 2 hours of day) are:

Dunya - this lynch is based on a scumslip I don't believe occurred. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous, and I refuse to vote there.
Nova - I have no idea why Nova has any votes.

Talk about Jack and Marmot

On second thought I like Marmot's votes. They good. The first half of his ISO pinged me, but I like the recent stuff. He's moving from zany to business, which doesn't usually happen when he's scum.

Jack has towned. He is towning.

[Tangrowth]

Hey sig! Do you suspect Daisy and that's why you're saying that? Is nova your preferred lynch? If you had sole control over the lynch outcome, who would die?

I just saw someone mention lynching her, but no right now she's null. No nova isn't, I'd say I don't really have preferred lynch. I've got alot more civ reads than mafia. I see the reasoning for why speed could be bad so could go there or another low poster.

Someone asked me about mac and lc. Mac is a solid civ read right now LC is a civ lean. I think he's wrong on dunya and hasn't posted much of anything else that i remember.


The only issue ive got with dunya is her vote especially seeing how she's the second wagon.

Thanks, appreciate it. What do you feel specifically about speed?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m actually leaving my vote on Epi. Mostly because they haven’t posted since I started on page 12ish but I don’t see any compelling reason to vote Dunya or Nova and I don’t feel like Slooneiing with a vote I don’t intend to let sit still to try to make waves.

[sig]

Also iI'd like to point out dom is saying i voted for him which never happened.

Linki: it seemed like your town than i remembered the othet game with you. And I'll be honest it kinda is a forced vote. I don't like it, but I also don't want epi/dunya to be lynched.


@mp it's mainly based off of Macs point on speed.

[Tangrowth]

Very quickly coming through dunya's ISO, and I'm not quite sure how I feel about her still. On the one hand, I feel like she's made genuine attempts to explain her thought process. But on the other hand, I still feel like she's continually going after low-hanging fruit with respect to her suspects and I feel like the most likely explanation of that is because she's trying to force her townplay as scum. Her rainbow list is very... ehhhh. Boring. Safe. I honestly feel like she's playing the game exactly how I play the game when I'm mafia.

That said, I'm not sure how comfortable I feel voting her out right now. I'd rather return after a full-fledged re-immersion in the game and reassess her fairly because my opinion on her more recent content is relatively uninformed having just quickly skimmed... but I'd also rather catch scum, so if I don't feel like my vote is better used elsewhere, I may just leave it where it is.

[Tangrowth]

combing through*

[Scotty]

Shower thought- what if EVERYONE is town? Who would you vote for?

[Tangrowth]

I also don't buy the whole argument regarding what dunya said about Dom's meta; I don't really care about that. I only care about what she's saying right now in this game, and I think there's more than enough to assess there. I'm a bit wary of those who are concentrating more on what she's supposedly said about someone's meta outside the game instead. Doesn't seem important to me at all.

[sig]

I’m actually leaving my vote on Epi. Mostly because they haven’t posted since I started on page 12ish but I don’t see any compelling reason to vote Dunya or Nova and I don’t feel like Slooneiing with a vote I don’t intend to let sit still to try to make waves.

Really dislike this vote, but ive gotta go accounting calls to me from the fiery depths of hell, no offense MP

[Tangrowth]

speedchuck, let's talk. Where's your head at right now?

[Scotty]

In dunya’s defense, she probably made as many reads as she could on the surface level before departing for places unknown (Paris?)

[Jackofhearts2005]

By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

First of all, congrats on the big news, Jack! Is it a boy or girl?

Second, in what way does he seem different to you?

Thank you.

It’s a squid.

[Tangrowth]

And what's the deal with these Epi votes? Guess I should ISO his ass too.

[novaselinenever]

Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

I don't like this post its weird, light scum ping on MP

What don't you like about it ? Him calling you out ?

All of nova's game-relevant content stems from this exchange and all that was established by it was the fact that sig and nova have played a couple games together. In my experience with nova he has been quiet early in games, and he's been town each time, so I'm not alarmed that he's been a low-key figure in this one. I do want there to be more content here, though.
@novaselinenever where is your head at right now? What do you think of the people who are voting for you and do you have any other reads to share?

I'm catching up as we speak.

I don't have much Turnip so far. Haven't seen much from him or at least nothing caught my eye. I'll iso his posts after catching up.
MacDougall is one of my strongest Town read atm. I've like his posts since he arrived and he was asking the right questions and making the right observations unlike you where most of your questions felt hollow and there was no follow up. I especially liked his interactions with Golden.
Sig is someone I haven't like so far since his initial posts. Some of his posts pinged me where he appeared to not have any stance at all. Seemed like he was intentionally being careful and not being genuine. One post in particular where he played the two sides by agreeing with Dunya's read iirc but also not liking her post. It was a weird one and iirc it was flagged by a few other players.
He also flip-flopped in an interesting manner. I recall him painting me as a quiet Town and thus gave me a Town read earlier based on meta. However his reasons for voting me was because I and I quote " often coast as scum on NF " . So that feels like a forced vote to me. I might have more on him meta-wise if he shares his NF username and if we have played beforehands.

[Turnip Head]

Shower thought- what if EVERYONE is town? Who would you vote for?

myself

[Tangrowth]

In dunya’s defense, she probably made as many reads as she could on the surface level before departing for places unknown (Paris?)

Yeah honestly I'd rather give her the BOTD and find a better suspect for today. I want to catch up and talk with her in real time. We'll see.

What are your thoughts, Scotty? Where would you recommend I consider voting?

[Tangrowth]

What the hell are you all smoking? Epi seems fine to me. There's content there despite the weird way he's generating it. He's constantly pointing out things.

[Marmot]

Scotty's metaphors are out of control. I suspect him also.

[Turnip Head]

Scotty's metaphors are out of control. I suspect him also.

Does he have a book of them?

[Tangrowth]

Hey Marmot, what's up man?

[Marmot]

Hey Marmot, what's up man?

The lynching of scum is up if you know what I mean.

[Marmot]

So baddies, do me a favor and get lynched today. One of you.

Ideally, do it in such a way that I voted for you when you're lynched. That'd be great.

[Tangrowth]

Having looked at NVN's ISO now as well, I'm really not in love with any of these leading wagons.

[Turnip Head]

is marmot our town cheerleader

[Marmot]

Having looked at NVN's ISO now as well, I'm really not in love with any of these leading wagons.

Did you have an opinion on NVN before just now?

[Tangrowth]

*looking at JoH's ISO*

Why are so many people playing casually this game?

[Scotty]

In dunya’s defense, she probably made as many reads as she could on the surface level before departing for places unknown (Paris?)

Yeah honestly I'd rather give her the BOTD and find a better suspect for today. I want to catch up and talk with her in real time. We'll see.

What are your thoughts, Scotty? Where would you recommend I consider voting?

Wherever you want dude, it’s a free market.

Check out lunalee and tell me if you’re seeing what I see. Her iso ain’t long.

Epi and to an extent, LC, are the ones that were continuing to push the dunya Dom scumslip. I don’t think Epi looks town right now.

[Marmot]

*looking at JoH's ISO*

Why are so many people playing casually this game?

Welcome to the Syndicate. Have you played here before?

[Marmot]

is marmot our town cheerleader

If I can stand on your shoulders yes.

[Turnip Head]

Damnit. Being in the thread with Sock and Marmot two hours before deadline is getting me in the mood for shenanigans.

[Tangrowth]

Having looked at NVN's ISO now as well, I'm really not in love with any of these leading wagons.

Did you have an opinion on NVN before just now?

I did think his thoughts on sig seemed a bit meh earlier in the moment in which Golden and Mac were discussing that interaction, but having examined his entire behavior I'm not really feeling that anymore.

[Scotty]

*looking at JoH's ISO*

Why are so many people playing casually this game?

I expect part of it is lying low so they don’t put a target on their back D1.

Part of it could also be that they’re bad.

[Scotty]

Scotty's metaphors are out of control. I suspect him also.

Bite me like a Polaroid picture. They’re mostly similes. There’s a difference

[Tangrowth]

In dunya’s defense, she probably made as many reads as she could on the surface level before departing for places unknown (Paris?)

Yeah honestly I'd rather give her the BOTD and find a better suspect for today. I want to catch up and talk with her in real time. We'll see.

What are your thoughts, Scotty? Where would you recommend I consider voting?

Wherever you want dude, it’s a free market.

Check out lunalee and tell me if you’re seeing what I see. Her iso ain’t long.

Epi and to an extent, LC, are the ones that were continuing to push the dunya Dom scumslip. I don’t think Epi looks town right now.

I'll check it out, thanks.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either re: Epi either. I liked what I saw before that though, so I'm torn.

[Tangrowth]

*looking at JoH's ISO*

Why are so many people playing casually this game?

Welcome to the Syndicate. Have you played here before?

Touche.

[Tangrowth]

Damnit. Being in the thread with Sock and Marmot two hours before deadline is getting me in the mood for shenanigans.

Start a counterwagon with me. You know you want to.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Is it? I'm new to GTH. I thought the gun was only supposed to force you to say town or scum instead of null.

The whole premise of Gun to Head is that it is just that- assumptions you would make on people if you had a gun to your head. Not organized beforehand where you say “ok, I’m thinking I’ll maybe call him bad and him good and oh! Looks like I need to come up with a few more grease monkeys!”

Bad look

#disagree

[Turnip Head]

Where even is Epignosis

[Marmot]

Damnit. Being in the thread with Sock and Marmot two hours before deadline is getting me in the mood for shenanigans.

Start a counterwagon with me. You know you want to.

We could start a counterwagon on one of the three of us. That's shenanigans.

[Jackofhearts2005]

By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

First of all, congrats on the big news, Jack! Is it a boy or girl?

Second, in what way does he seem different to you?

I’ve brought this up before, and you’ve already touched on it. He seems silly and his investment is quite casual. I’m not sure if he’s just trying a different technique or what, but he was poking his nose in closets that didn’t need to be opened in GoC. Here it’s like he just lit a Yankee Doodle candle because he doesn’t feel like smelling cat hair

#unflatteringmetaphors

[Tangrowth]

Hmmm... I'm not sure I'm digging what Lunalee is throwing down.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention], why is dunya genuine exactly? You keep emphasizing that ad nauseum, but Golden, Mac, and I have put as much into the thread as she has, and at some point you even said you didn't buy what I was saying. Explain.

I'm moving my vote there now until I get a response upon which I can reassess.

[Tangrowth]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention], what are your thoughts on your wife?

[Dom]

I also don't buy the whole argument regarding what dunya said about Dom's meta; I don't really care about that. I only care about what she's saying right now in this game, and I think there's more than enough to assess there. I'm a bit wary of those who are concentrating more on what she's supposedly said about someone's meta outside the game instead. Doesn't seem important to me at all.

I think you misunderstand the point. It's not meant to be a leading reason to lynch dunya. It's meant to corroborate other suspicions of her in the future. And it's not about what she said in the discord. It's about what she said in this thread.

Dunya claims to know my meta desptie also claiming to not play with me. Therefore, someone told her my meta. Who and how? Those are important questions. She gave us answers, and for now, I'm content to sit back and see what else she does.

[Turnip Head]

Damnit. Being in the thread with Sock and Marmot two hours before deadline is getting me in the mood for shenanigans.

Start a counterwagon with me. You know you want to.

We could start a counterwagon on one of the three of us. That's shenanigans.

I'm glad we're on the same page

[Tangrowth]

Another thing that bothers me about Lunalee is that she threw a vote onto LC because he was the first to start the dunya bandwagon, but she seemingly makes no attempt to discern whether LC was being genuine. Townies can genuinely suspect other townies. Happens all the time.

Feels like she's playing on auto-pilot.