Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.

[Sloonei]

Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.

What's a sopapilla?

[speedchuck]

Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.

What's a sopapilla?

[colonialbob]

What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.

Choutas is civ stop voting him plz

Sloonei

Why do you feel this way?

If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.

Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?

Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?

[Sloonei]

I'm going to be hungry every time I open page 64 now, thanks speedchuck.

[Kylemii]

a chouta is a guy who thinks he's fly, who leaves unexplained votes on me

[Kylemii]

What happens if all hellenic league members side with Persía? Wouldn't it unbalance the game or to put much clearer wouldn't it break it.

Choutas is civ stop voting him plz

Sloonei

Why do you feel this way?

If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.

Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?

Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?

wait what

[colonialbob]

Given Colin's push to lynch luna

Objection, he was voting off-wagon close to EoD. That's hardly a push.

[colonialbob]

Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.

What's a sopapilla?

Way more appetizing than nutella on cheese.

[Sloonei]

Given Colin's push to lynch luna

Objection, he was voting off-wagon close to EoD. That's hardly a push.

sustained. There was a consistent effort on colin's part to smear luna, though.

[colonialbob]

Choutas is civ stop voting him plz

Sloonei

Why do you feel this way?

If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.

Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?

Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?

wait what

If Choutas is mafia, and thinks getting all 3 league members to side with mafia breaks the game, why would he announce that in-thread?

[colonialbob]

Given Colin's push to lynch luna

Objection, he was voting off-wagon close to EoD. That's hardly a push.

sustained. There was a consistent effort on colin's part to smear luna, though.

Point it out to me, cause I'm not seeing it. It could easily be distancing from where I sit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.

What's a sopapilla?

Traditionally a Mexican/South American desert. The Tex-Mex version is Baked dough with sugar and honey on top. You can have special ones with chocolate on them but it's usually honey.

[Sloonei]

a chouta is a guy who thinks he's fly, who leaves unexplained votes on me

This is true. [mention]Choutas[/mention] care to comment on the wagons that currently exist? And also why you're currently parked on kyle?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sloonei

Why do you feel this way?

If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.

Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?

Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?

wait what

If Choutas is mafia, and thinks getting all 3 league members to side with mafia breaks the game, why would he announce that in-thread?

Why wouldn't he?

[colonialbob]

Why do you feel this way?

If he's mafia, he's not going to announce that to the thread, he's gonna put that in baddie chat to try and get all 3 league members to side with mafia.

If he's a league member, he's gonna ask that on league chat.

Ergo, town.

Does it hurt him to say this out loud if he's bad?

Yes, insofar as it makes people more willing to lynch League members.

Like, if you've got an advantage, you don't go telling people about it, right?

wait what

If Choutas is mafia, and thinks getting all 3 league members to side with mafia breaks the game, why would he announce that in-thread?

Why wouldn't he?

Because he can just tell the league members in their BTSC? (Or he can mention it in baddie chat and whoever is darius can do the same)

[Sloonei]

These wagons suck. At best, I help contribute to a tie-breaker where I think it's probably a civ. Would that be much better?

Much better. If the poll only included those three people, which would you vote for?

I dunno. Pick a number out of a hat. The cases for them are uninspiring at best. At least with lunalee I heard myself getting suspicious alongside someone else.

And again, to be clear: Colin wasn't an option because your objective was to break the tie?

My objective is always to vote somewhere it can make a difference. I don't think there is ever any value in town voting off wagon, no matter how much you might think every wagon is civ. I don't care about breaking the tie - I'd have voted my biggest suspect of the three even if it created a tie.

I think there is a difference in game philosophy coming to light here. Voting off wagon has its benefits and I don't want to spell all of them out necessarily, but one is to apply pressure. I felt that lunalee's conduct was the most suspicious of anyone I'd ISO'd that day and certainly more suspicious than the others. And I would rather put pressure on someone who I think may be scum than kill someone who I don't see a case for. Sorry if you think that's bad play, but that's how it is and how it's gonna be.

As easily I can:

One benefit of voting off-wagon is that it gets the town to think about other candidates, especially if they're someone who has flown under the radar with regards to that lynch. That's the primary reason I decided to follow my gut about lunalee.

Another benefit would be forcing a potential scum to defend themselves. I think other people have sprung to lunalee's defense, so this doesn't seem to have happened too much. But it's definitely something that happens regardless of the context of the vote and it's useful for the town.

A third reason that didn't occur to me at all yesterday, but I can see now, is seeing how people respond. You learn about other people's playstyles and what they consider scummy and you can get a lot out of that to help you with your reads. I'm learning more about the people who are voicing suspicions of me and I'm interested to see who doesn't.

I can understand why people think the timing of my post might be suspicious, but I'll have to politely ask you to disregard that. I would have made the same vote, after reading lunalee's posts and the rest of the thread, if I were able to, but I was at work and barely got my vote in on time anyway. I know you have no reason to believe me there, but it's the truth.

Colin's posts on lunalee after the throwaway vote. I thought I remembered there being more of a follow-up push against her from him, but it seems I was mistaken. That vote could be distancing and there's not a lot here that isn't obligatory rhetoric from Colin, so not much is really revealed about his stance on luna.

I still prefer an LC vote today based on the interactions the two of them had with Colin, but I suppose I do not object so strongly to a luna lynch.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

I need to leave fairly soon.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let's just end the day now.

[Sloonei]

We still have 5 people not taking part in either of the wagons. That's some critical action right there. Well, 4 at least. I assume LC will move to luna when he gets back. But [mention]Choutas[/mention] [mention]Kylemii[/mention] [mention]Marmot[/mention] and [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] have decisions to make,

[Jackofhearts2005]

everyone lumping me with LC and Luna and I have no idea why beyond Scotty (and Golden saying he agreed with Scotty). I don't like it.

Is it cause you're mafia together?

[Scotty]

Let's just end the day now.

This is me in literally every game with 48 hr cycles. The longer the game goes on, the more complacent and stepped back people become

But people seem to like it for some reason so here we are

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let's just end the day now.

This is me in literally every game with 48 hr cycles. The longer the game goes on, the more complacent and stepped back people become

But people seem to like it for some reason so here we are

I like 48 hour days. I just want the ability to BOOM end the day at will when I get impatient.

[Turnip Head]

well things have happened while I was out

[Turnip Head]

[Marmot]

We still have 5 people not taking part in either of the wagons. That's some critical action right there. Well, 4 at least. I assume LC will move to luna when he gets back. But @Choutas @Kylemii @Marmot and @Turnip Head have decisions to make,

Will be on about 2 hours or so from deadline. See you then!

[Scotty]

Does this mean you find both Luna and LC equally bad or good or just posting to show that you are alive?

[Turnip Head]

I don't suspect either one of them so you guys have fun

[Scotty]

I don't suspect either one of them so you guys have fun

Turnip Head- Running for the Ambivalent Party platform for President in 2020

[Turnip Head]

I don't suspect either one of them so you guys have fun

Turnip Head- Running for the Ambivalent Party platform for President in 2020

If you knew the real name of my party, maybe you'd be on the guest list

[speedchuck]

I don't suspect either one of them so you guys have fun

But you suspect Choutas

[wolbre04]

Pretty sure a chouta is kinda like a sopapilla.

What's a sopapilla?

Traditionally a Mexican/South American desert. The Tex-Mex version is Baked dough with sugar and honey on top. You can have special ones with chocolate on them but it's usually honey.

this is the correct image

[Long Con]

Oh hi guys. Yes, I defended Colin. It was a mistake. I'm Civ. Anything else you need to know?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

That is, until I catch up and find out why these two are the leading wagons.

[Marmot]

Did Colin shit in Long Con's cornflakes?

[Long Con]

Did Colin shit in Long Con's cornflakes?

I don't feel like that's the right metaphor. I think I shit in my own cornflakes this time, bud.

[Marmot]

Did Colin shit in Long Con's cornflakes?

I don't feel like that's the right metaphor. I think I shit in my own cornflakes this time, bud.

This sounds like an admission of guilt.

[Scotty]

Did Colin shit in Long Con's cornflakes?

I don't feel like that's the right metaphor. I think I shit in my own cornflakes this time, bud.

I guess the question becomes: did you knowingly shit in the cornflakes or unknowingly?

If the latter, it’s time to lay off the flax seed and prune juice

[Long Con]

No, it's not an admission of guilt, it's that I defended Colin when he ended up bad.

[Marmot]

Get on my wavelength Marmot. We're living a lazyboy's paradise. We can crack this game wide open with one-liners and well timed detective work

You know I love those things almost as much if not more than every other player here.

[Golden]

LC whose direction would you be looking in after your lynch?

[Long Con]

LC whose direction would you be looking in after your lynch?

The same direction I'm looking in now, dick Wade ask me a question though. I think Dunya looks pretty bad and it's about time everyone came around to that view.

[Long Con]

Wade = way voice to text hey baby

[Marmot]

No, it's not an admission of guilt, it's that I defended Colin when he ended up bad.

Well then you didn't shit in your corn flakes, the corn flakes shat on you.

[speedchuck]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] If you had complete control of the lynch, what 3 candidates would you consider?

[Golden]

Shitting is NAI tbh

[Marmot]

Golden is full of shit. 100% NAI.

Mafia is really frickin' hard.

[Long Con]

@Long Con If you had complete control of the lynch, what 3 candidates would you consider?

Lunalee, dunya, Choutas

No, it's not an admission of guilt, it's that I defended Colin when he ended up bad.

Well then you didn't shit in your corn flakes, the corn flakes shat on you.

I clearly do not have enough experience to correctly wield this metaphor.

Wade = way voice to text hey baby

Funny story, I was voice-to-texting this and BR came up behind me and surprised me as I pressed Submit... hence the "hey baby" tacked on at the end there.

[Long Con]

Twenty minutes later and nothin' ta say
Twenty minutes later and we're losing the day
Ninety minutes left I don't know how it's gonna go
Please don't lynch me and disrupt ma flow

[Long Con]

Lets just lynch dunya and when she shows up bad, that will look really good on me.

[dunya]

everyone lumping me with LC and Luna and I have no idea why beyond Scotty (and Golden saying he agreed with Scotty). I don't like it.

Is it cause you're mafia together?

yea, exactly