Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Tangrowth]

dunya, what's your updated reads list? In passing I noticed you did some analysis yesterday. Maybe I should go take a look at that.

I think you can make out where I stand currently.

I have more isos to do. It's 1.30am and I slept at 6am yesterday and woke up at 9am so I'm gonna go sleep now. It's my mom's birthday tomorrow (today) too, but I'll be around and do what I can with more promised isos.

Sorry I'm behind but when I have time I find engaging in real time is more useful atm.

You rock. Don't sweat it. I'm with you there; it's partly why I can't ever seem to get to ISOs myself despite wanting to.

[Turnip Head]

Also, Mp, you’re a firm town read for me. The one candle in the dark right now. I need you on my side.

And not “pocketing” or “buddying” like some pack of cigarettes

You make me sound like a cheap hooker

[Turnip Head]

Oh and I'm not 3P, I am obviously towning hard

[Jackofhearts2005]

speedchuck, you're bad.

He knows.

[Turnip Head]

I'd be gunning for wolbre right now if Golden hadn't used his final word to tell me not to

[Marmot]

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] you still around?

[Marmot]

I'd be gunning for wolbre right now if Golden hadn't used his final word to tell me not to

I think wolbre's an Indy, what about you?

[Marmot]

Take a step back and ask yourself:

If we’re at endgame with TH, jack, Quin and Kyle, how comfortable do we feel as a collective town?

Look, I’m all for the funny gifs every now and then. But if your thesis is due for your master’s program in a week, and you spend the week watching funny cat videos, you might as well apply for a cashier position at McDonalds

Why these four?

I dont currently suspect Marmot, who would also fit in there.

Those are the ones that go to my head when I think of the IDGaF party. Am I missing some?

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Have you bothered reading my posts?

[Marmot]

And yeah, the baddie team are cowards for the last few kills. All yawn boring burgers.

I like this post.

[Marmot]

Except for the burgers part. I'll just have fries.

[Kylemii]

Finally caught up. I'm still good with the Colin's lynch. He hasn't done anything to really defend himself and all of his posts are bad, real bad. In my interaction with him, I didn't like his explanation to the Luna vote and I'll be looking at her when he flips scum.

Something I find interesting is how this wagon grew exponentially in the last few hours. I know he didn't defend himself but I still feel uneasy with all the votes he's getting when it was a tied lynch earlier.

[VOTE: Colin] aubergine

This post is bad.

[Kylemii]

I'm... mad now.

mafia keeps killing all the good town leaders. that means i'm gonna have to actually get up and do something instead getting high and talking about twilight all the time like i want to :/

[Scotty]

I just read back through the EoD yesterday that I never got around to reading.

Couple plot points:
I think Daisy looks very resigned town.
I think MP looks very frustrated and aggressive town.
I think cbob looks the most suspicious for manipulating the voting targets.

Which is weird because I have been agreeing with cbob this game and have been impressed with his content. But in the flow of last night, knowing Luna was good and feeling very strongly that SD is good, cbob was very gung-ho on defending nova and shifting vote focus away from nova.

He starts on Luna, then after fighting with golden over nova’s innocence, shifts seemingly randomly to the SpaceDaisy train (for no given reason). When Sloonei asks who he should vote for, cbob says “Vote daisy, Choutas, or Luna is my rec” followed immediately by “I mean I think Choutas is town but I'm not trying to make all your reads for you” wtf? That’s a weird rec then, ain’t it?

Then Mp comes into thread defending Daisy, and cbob then goes, “I'd support a cfd to mp tbh

If we do it asap, or at least pdq

Hes bad imo”
Out of nowhere, this suspicion.

He then ends back on Luna.

All this to say I think cbob was happy to lynch any of Daisy, Mp or Luna (and choutas, even though he said he viewed him as civ) to protect nova.

If nova is bad, cbob looks guilty to me

[Tangrowth]

@M Plus 7 you still around?

Sort of, but I have a million different things going on. What's up?

[Marmot]

I just read back through the EoD yesterday that I never got around to reading.

Couple plot points:
I think Daisy looks very resigned town.
I think MP looks very frustrated and aggressive town.
I think cbob looks the most suspicious for manipulating the voting targets.

Which is weird because I have been agreeing with cbob this game and have been impressed with his content. But in the flow of last night, knowing Luna was good and feeling very strongly that SD is good, cbob was very gung-ho on defending nova and shifting vote focus away from nova.

He starts on Luna, then after fighting with golden over nova’s innocence, shifts seemingly randomly to the SpaceDaisy train (for no given reason). When Sloonei asks who he should vote for, cbob says “Vote daisy, Choutas, or Luna is my rec” followed immediately by “I mean I think Choutas is town but I'm not trying to make all your reads for you” wtf? That’s a weird rec then, ain’t it?

Then Mp comes into thread defending Daisy, and cbob then goes, “I'd support a cfd to mp tbh

If we do it asap, or at least pdq

Hes bad imo”
Out of nowhere, this suspicion.

He then ends back on Luna.

All this to say I think cbob was happy to lynch any of Daisy, Mp or Luna (and choutas, even though he said he viewed him as civ) to protect nova.

If nova is bad, cbob looks guilty to me

I applaud your effort, but I don't really understand this case.

You started by explaining why cbob is bad, then concluded that if nova is bad, then cbob looks guilty.

[Marmot]

M Plus 7 you still around?

Sort of, but I have a million different things going on. What's up?

Just checking in to see if you and I were actually going to be in the game thread at the same time to interact!

[Kylemii]

I intend to look into Nova and Sloonei today

[Scotty]

Spoiler: show

I just read back through the EoD yesterday that I never got around to reading.

Couple plot points:
I think Daisy looks very resigned town.
I think MP looks very frustrated and aggressive town.
I think cbob looks the most suspicious for manipulating the voting targets.

Which is weird because I have been agreeing with cbob this game and have been impressed with his content. But in the flow of last night, knowing Luna was good and feeling very strongly that SD is good, cbob was very gung-ho on defending nova and shifting vote focus away from nova.

He starts on Luna, then after fighting with golden over nova’s innocence, shifts seemingly randomly to the SpaceDaisy train (for no given reason). When Sloonei asks who he should vote for, cbob says “Vote daisy, Choutas, or Luna is my rec” followed immediately by “I mean I think Choutas is town but I'm not trying to make all your reads for you” wtf? That’s a weird rec then, ain’t it?

Then Mp comes into thread defending Daisy, and cbob then goes, “I'd support a cfd to mp tbh

If we do it asap, or at least pdq

Hes bad imo”
Out of nowhere, this suspicion.

He then ends back on Luna.

All this to say I think cbob was happy to lynch any of Daisy, Mp or Luna (and choutas, even though he said he viewed him as civ) to protect nova.

If nova is bad, cbob looks guilty to me

I applaud your effort, but I don't really understand this case.

You started by explaining why cbob is bad, then concluded that if nova is bad, then cbob looks guilty.

I acknowledge that cbob looks worse if nova is bad. In the context of EoD I think he looks bad, and yet I’ve read him as town up until that point based on his helpful contributions.

But he’s stuck his neck out a ton for nova, completely butting out golden and my grievances there, and I was taking it as a civ with a logical explanation for nova’s innocence. But I could now also see it as blatant defense for a teammate

[Turnip Head]

I'd be gunning for wolbre right now if Golden hadn't used his final word to tell me not to

I think wolbre's an Indy, what about you?

Well I thought I saw a slip but I'm the only one concerned about it so idk

[Kylemii]

Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up

mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1

when did Colin start getting flak?

[Marmot]

Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up

mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1

when did Colin start getting flak?

I like this summary.

If it's true, I'd feel even better about lynching nova.

[Kylemii]

Sloonei went hard against Colin early on and I also forgot that he's probably Hellenic so yeah nevermind that one

[Kylemii]

is nova known for early distancing as a badman?

[Marmot]

To hell with those buggers!

[Kylemii]

I don't like the case for nova right now; reading the thread, it looks like it's based on the whole sig thing, but then why wouldn't people just vote sig? Feels weird to me, but sig doesn't seem like scum either. I don't think using hedge words is necessarily a scum tell, I think some people just talk like that (you might notice I say the word "just" about a thousand times a post, for example.) Nothing after that changed my view of him.

I don't think Epignosis is scum right now. I think he doesn't give a shit, but there's a big difference there. I can't support lynching him.

So as far as people who did ping me ... The case against lunalee was interesting. I really don't like the scenario she outlines where Persians conspire on day 1 to lynch dunya, I don't think it's likely and it seems like big buddying. She kind of reminds me of my scum play in FWWM, possibly acting overly friendly as obfuscation. GTH, scum read right now, and that's the best I can go for.

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

follow up question, potential distancing between Nova and Colin happened after Colin made this post. Colin later gave Nova a townish read right before his death so... salt that obviously.

[novaselinenever]

Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up

mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1

when did Colin start getting flak?

The other guy was Sloonei, who I had as a bad read before going after Colin for his off-wagon vote.

[novaselinenever]

is nova known for early distancing as a badman?

I've been bad twice on TS. Fiddler's Roof and Image Mafia.

[Kylemii]

the question being "do those two sides happening make sense together strategically for teammates, would Colin defending nova like he did be a reason enough for nova to go at colin in the way he did as I guess... counter steering? or is it more possible that colin was bad on his own and no a was on him for regular reasons"

[Kylemii]

is nova known for early distancing as a badman?

I've been bad twice on TS. Fiddler's Roof and Image Mafia.

how did you treat your teammates in those examples

[novaselinenever]

is nova known for early distancing as a badman?

I've been bad twice on TS. Fiddler's Roof and Image Mafia.

how did you treat your teammates in those examples

I was an independent in the Fiddler's Roof game, and mostly inactive in the Image.

[Kylemii]

hnnnnnnnn okay [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] are you bad here?

[novaselinenever]

the question being "do those two sides happening make sense together strategically for teammates, would Colin defending nova like he did be a reason enough for nova to go at colin in the way he did as I guess... counter steering? or is it more possible that colin was bad on his own and no a was on him for regular reasons"

From my PoV, his vote was because he was afraid to be on the bad side of history and be responsible of a civvies lynch. Especially since his vote would have decided who get lynched (Me, sig and Epi were tied at 4-5 votes).

I pushed him because he tried to discredit Golden's case and at that time only Golden had pinged that vote as bad. I agreed with Golden and pushed him for that vote and our interactions didn't help his case for me and I read him bad. His explanation of the Luna's vote is what made me think, it was a distancing ploy from him but now that Luna's flipped Town, I think it was just a simple throw away vote.

[novaselinenever]

hnnnnnnnn okay @novaselinenever are you bad here?

No, I'm not.

[Kylemii]

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] who do you want to lynch today

[Kylemii]

/whoshouldireviewnext

[Turnip Head]

/whoshouldireviewnext

What about bob

[novaselinenever]

@novaselinenever who do you want to lynch today

I'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.

[Kylemii]

oh dear god that's too many names slow down pilgrims

[Scotty]

Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up

mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1

when did Colin start getting flak?

I like this summary.

If it's true, I'd feel even better about lynching nova.

Where were you when I made a similar case and summary yesterday?

[novaselinenever]

Three names aren't a lot.

[novaselinenever]

2 of them only to look into for now, so nothing big.

[novaselinenever]

Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up

mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1

when did Colin start getting flak?

I like this summary.

If it's true, I'd feel even better about lynching nova.

Where were you when I made a similar case and summary yesterday?

He was angle-shooting the possibility that SpaceDaisy is letting me buss her for Towncred.

[Turnip Head]

oh dear god that's too many names slow down pilgrims

What about bob

[Scotty]

@novaselinenever who do you want to lynch today

I'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

[Scotty]

Take a step back and ask yourself:

If we’re at endgame with TH, jack, Quin and Kyle, how comfortable do we feel as a collective town?

Look, I’m all for the funny gifs every now and then. But if your thesis is due for your master’s program in a week, and you spend the week watching funny cat videos, you might as well apply for a cashier position at McDonalds

Why these four?

I dont currently suspect Marmot, who would also fit in there.

Those are the ones that go to my head when I think of the IDGaF party. Am I missing some?

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Have you bothered reading my posts?

Have you bothered reading mine?

[novaselinenever]

@novaselinenever who do you want to lynch today

I'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

What about that post ?

[Kylemii]

I think MP and LC are sorta talking past each other at this point. I expect it to continue devolving into a deadly wizard cage match, but I'm secretly hoping it morphs into a buddy road trip comedy where MP is played by Tom Hardy and Long Con is played by Jason Sudeikis.

wanted to point this post out cus I'm glad long con is played by Jason Sudeikis

[Scotty]

@novaselinenever who do you want to lynch today

I'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

What about that post ?

I’m going to parrot MP at EoD yesterday and say that I don’t believe you believe SD is bad.

If there’s a low-hanging fruit for a lynch today, it’s her. And I don’t wanna go near that apple tree today.

I’d much sooner get near your pear tree

[Kylemii]

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] where/when did your suspicion of Colin begin?

[novaselinenever]

@novaselinenever who do you want to lynch today

I'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

What about that post ?

I’m going to parrot MP at EoD yesterday and say that I don’t believe you believe SD is bad.

If there’s a low-hanging fruit for a lynch today, it’s her. And I don’t wanna go near that apple tree today.

I’d much sooner get near your pear tree

Why do you think that ? And, what makes her a low-hanging fruit ?

[VOTE: SpaceDaisy] aubergine