Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Day 6 -- critical turtles poll

Do you like turtles?
Poll ended at Wed May 09, 2018 7:26 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


Of course I like turtles, what a stupid question.
7
47%
Voters: dunya, Choutas, lapluie, JaggedJimmyJay, novaselinenever, Sloonei, Turnip Head
You must enter at least two poll options.
8
53%
Voters: colonialbob, Scotty, Jackofhearts2005, M Plus 7, Marmot, Kylemii, Quin, wolbre04
Total votes: 15

[Jackofhearts2005]

Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.

Sorry, Scotty.

[Jackofhearts2005]

There goes my freaking MVP trophy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

All my reads were based on the idea Acotty was bad. I need to start over.

[Tangrowth]

Well, fuck.

[dunya]

rip scotty hope we play again together soon, it's been a blast, good sir.

[Turnip Head]

All my reads were based on the idea Acotty was bad. I need to start over.

[Turnip Head]

All my reads were based on the idea Acotty was bad. I need to start over.

[Sloonei]

All my reads were based on the idea Acotty was bad. I need to start over.

where will you be starting?

[dunya]

was the typo of Scotty's name a tribute joke?

[Jackofhearts2005]

All my reads were based on the idea Acotty was bad. I need to start over.

Okay, not all.

It’s mostly Bob, Nova (town) and Dunya (scum) I have to rethink.

[dunya]

you thought I was w/w with scotty? where's the connection?

[Jackofhearts2005]

was the typo of Scotty's name a tribute joke?

A is next to S. I don’t get the joke?

[dunya]

I promise to ISO Kyle and wolbre04 before this eon.

I just realized I've never seen a baddie cbob.

[Jackofhearts2005]

you thought I was w/w with scotty? where's the connection?

You were saying I was bussing Speed maybe, which felt like naysaying defending Scotty.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I promise to ISO Kyle and wolbre04 before this eon.

I just realized I've never seen a baddie cbob.

I’ll link you to some games that serve this purpose and double as embarrassments for me.

[Marmot]

EEp

[Kylemii]

In orddr to differentiate my erotic ancient greece mafia themed fanfiction from Kyle's sparkky vampire saga, mine will take place in outer space.

true vampire fanfiction doesn't need cheap sci fi gimmicks to be enjoyable

[Scotty]

lol thanks for the double kill jay.

Win it for me, civs!

[Jackofhearts2005]

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564242

^Bad CBob, embarrassing good Jack, bonus sk doing the town’s work for us

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=575232

^Bad CBob, mostly weak performance by Jack

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576257

^Jack lynches everyone, especially townie CBob. CBob replaces back in as a baddie and almost gets away with it.

[Sloonei]

I saw a baddie cbob in mountains mafia. Turns out I was wrong, but I sure as hell saw it.

[dunya]

I saw a baddie cbob in mountains mafia. Turns out I was wrong, but I sure as hell saw it.

[dunya]

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564242

^Bad CBob, embarrassing good Jack, bonus sk doing the town’s work for us

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=575232

^Bad CBob, mostly weak performance by Jack

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576257

^Jack lynches everyone, especially townie CBob. CBob replaces back in as a baddie and almost gets away with it.

thank you! i'll take a look tomorrow morning.

2.30am for dunya. peace out.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I actually saved the day in two of those games but most of the time, I’d rather lynch a mafia member and get nked than lynch four townies and then a mafia member ftw.

[wolbre04]

Ok boys and girls, time for me to get off my duff and make a post aside from more Trisha Paytas gifs. This should be informational.
Players Alive:

dunya
Jackofhearts2005
Kites / Quin
Kylemii
lapluie / colonialbob
M Plus 7
Marmot
novaselinenever
Sloonei
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
wolbre04

Players Eliminated:

sig - Themistocles - Lynched on Day 1
Epignosis - Brasidas - Killed on Night 1
ColinIsCool - Xerxes - Lynched on Day 2
MacDougall - Pericles - Killed on Night 2
Long Con - Ephor - Lynched on Day 3
Dom - Leonidas - Killed on Night 3
Lunalee - Senator - Lynched on Day 4
Golden - Pythia - Killed on Night 4
speedchuck - Darius the Great - Lynched on Day 5
Choutas - Trireme Commander - Killed on Night 5
Scotty - Semen - Lynched on Day 6

So, if we break this down, this is what we have among the final 12
Persians (2):

Spoiler: show

Melodramatic Kiss - 3 shot role check. 2 shot NK w/ immunity to watch roles.


Heartfelt Furnace - 2 shot vote add. 2 shot NK w/ immunity to disruption.

3rd Party Candidates (3) - No Alignment Known Yet. Jill and Vermin have chosen an alignment:

Spoiler: show

Jill Stein of the Corinthian Green Party - Traded 1 of each alignment check, nk protection, and double vote


Gary Johnson of the Eretrian Libertarian Party - Traded one each of Watch and Random ability, still possesses nonfatal poison


Vermin Supreme of the Thebian Democratic Party - Traded one each of VK, rolecheck, track

Spartans (5):

Spoiler: show

Poops in Grass - 2 shot spartan check. 1 shot permanent spartan vote upgrade to 1.5


Lice Hander - 3 shot RB/Jail. 1 Shot Athenian action fail.


Stop Sign Commander - 3 shot check ability use. 2 shot die in spartan's place


Count Seal Man - 1 shot info message check. 1 shot message to host to spartan leader


Helmet - 1 shot reveal to become immune to nks and lynches. Votes for spartans do not count.

Athenians (2):

Spoiler: show

Ground Coriander - 2 shot see who targets player. 1 shot player removed from poll


Militarized Teats - 3 shot check a player and give them a random ability if they're athenian. 1 shot pick a player and they can post for 1 day after death.

Now that I've both made you laugh in confusion/sympathy and informed you of what is left, I'll do some math.
2 of 12 players are left, that's a 16.67% chance of randomly lynching a scum. I'm town for example, so that means 2/11 (or 18%) chance I kill mafia if I'm not lynched.

This only gets better with our information people have garnered over the course of the game. While you obviously can't say "Brennan(me), you're clearly 3p because I just know it", use your role to turn that 2/11 into a 2/10, even a 2/8 if you're really on fire.
Scotty's death is concerning and we should be pursuing those that he specifically called out imo. If you look at his role, he could check players to see if they're athenian. If you factor out those 2 remaining (let's assume for ease the one alive had a chat with him), the other athenian, and yourself, that is already 2/9 for a list of scum. The people he called out he may have checked previously, and determined that they were NOT athenian.
Also I'm having an asthma attack so it may be a bit before i respond, I wanted to pound this one out

[wolbre04]

What a waste of 45 minutes finding all that nformation and pictures was

[Turnip Head]

In orddr to differentiate my erotic ancient greece mafia themed fanfiction from Kyle's sparkky vampire saga, mine will take place in outer space.

true vampire fanfiction doesn't need cheap sci fi gimmicks to be enjoyable

ah, a purist...

Some scholars believe that the gimmickier it is, the fanfictionier it is...

But i suppose there's room for more than one school of thought on this very academic subject...

#shitposting

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]wolbre04[/mention]

That’s great but can you try to find some baddies?

[wolbre04]

Town:
Dunya
Cbob
Wolbre04
Daisy
MP7

Somewhere out there:
Quin
Kyle
Nova

Suspected Scum (Most to least)
Jack
TH
Marmot
Sloonei

[Jackofhearts2005]

Never mind. Go back to shitposting.

[wolbre04]

Never mind. Go back to shitposting.

[Marmot]

quietly closes the spoiler tag posted by wolbre that has the Athenians roles and walks away from the thread

[Marmot]

I'm not scum everyone, I'm promise!

[Marmot]

EBWOP: I promise

[wolbre04]

quietly closes the spoiler tag posted by wolbre that has the Athenians roles and walks away from the thread

lol was it the udder gun that startled you

[Sloonei]

wolbre, you’ve been listing me as either indie or scum all game but I am unclear why. You have referenced my meta, but we’ve never played together before this game. Can you point to anything I have done in this game and tell me why it is suspicious?

[wolbre04]

wolbre, you’ve been listing me as either indie or scum all game but I am unclear why. You have referenced my meta, but we’ve never played together before this game. Can you point to anything I have done in this game and tell me why it is suspicious?

1. I have referenced your meta as other people have stated it.
2. It's a secret. But I lean more town/indie than straight scum. You're under maybe scum bc that also encompasses potential neutrals

[wolbre04]

edit: forgot to hi-lite each point and color it

[Sloonei]

That did not answer my question. But I guess I’ll ask you about the names ahead of me on your scum list. Why are they all there?

[Sloonei]

Is there anything at all you care to tell me about your read on me? “It’s a secret” is almost as bad as saying nothing at all.

[wolbre04]

That did not answer my question. But I guess I’ll ask you about the names ahead of me on your scum list. Why are they all there?

Jack
TH
Marmot

Scotty's role gets private chat with another Athenian as well as the ability to check for athenians, he seemed hellbent on fighting these people and he's obviously scum. Jack seemed to try and discredit Dunya who im p sure is townread across the board as well as had a good long fight with Scotty

I’ve thought jack was bad based on what dunya said- that someone was bussing speed gradually.

@dunya why you say this?

yea, but I didn't think it was Jack. I thought it would be someone who was a lot more subtle so that when it came to developing a case against him, he'd have a backlog of evidence to support his/her stance if it came down to lynching speed.

honestly, Scotty's ISO of Jack's 20+ mentions since Day 1 of lynching speed (he has called for speed's lynch every single phase) does leave some doubt in a person's heart, regardless of effort. :/ the only thing I could believe is he investigated speed n4. but for someone who has called for speed's lynch since day 1 and no one elses every phase, wouldn't he have used it earlier? that's my main beef with Jack.

[Sloonei]

What about TH and Marmot?

Why do you think dunya is town?

[wolbre04]

Is there anything at all you care to tell me about your read on me? “It’s a secret” is almost as bad as saying nothing at all.

Quin and Speedchuck interactions, because I have no read on the Quin and that seems like a good place to start working my way back into the thread:

Now I need to look at @Quin and try to remember something he's said or done. But I'mma do it tomorrow because I am dead on my feet.

Okay, but you have to town read me in return. Deal?

Their first direct interaction. Joking, not serious, easily can be a lighthearted joke between teammates but does not have to be.

Why'd nova kick off? It sounded like a speedchuck lynch was the precedent to a nova lynch.

"Oh hey what's up guys I thought we were lynching speedchuck today?" Unless I am missing something, quin has said nothing about speedchuck at this point and his vote was on nova at the time.

After speedchuck's flip, quin does a couple interactive ISOs like this one, on Dunya and Scotty. He draws this conclusion:

Concluding thoughts: Both look bad. dunya looks worse than Scotty.

But I don't see a ton of extrapolation in the ISOs themselves. Quin, why did you choose to look at these two in particular, and what exactly set off the sirens in your head when you looked at them?

Why do you think Quin is bad?

Usually Quin is my first townread in a game. I usually see a genuine spark of towniness from him early. But in this game, I'm hard-pressed to say that he's had any impact on me one way or another. I have zero reason to read him as town.

I also came across this post from speedchuck, which I can read just as easily as either easy shade on a low-posting player, or soft distancing from a teammate. I dunno.

There's very little here from Quin. There's nothing here that makes a teammate pairing impossible, but there's also nothing that screams at me.
I suppose I could spend a more time looking at Quin's posts as a whole, but I'm not sure that would be a great use of my time right now as I'm trying to wrap my head around what's going on here before the deadline. I also have not had a chance to look at speedchuck's posts at all since he flipped. That's something I'll do if I ever find the time and energy for it. But I can't conduct a full investigation right now.

I missed this post
I'll shove you into town and quinn into the bottom of the list where u were

[wolbre04]

What about TH and Marmot?

Why do you think dunya is town?

Marmot just seems
absent idk I feel like we are starting to hit dead ends on active players

Dunya hesitated on the Scot lynch and didn't like quin much

TH was arguing endlessly with Scotty

[Turnip Head]

No i wasnt

[Sloonei]

I missed this post
I'll shove you into town and quinn into the bottom of the list where u were

why?

[wolbre04]

I missed this post
I'll shove you into town and quinn into the bottom of the list where u were

why?

which part r u asking about

[Sloonei]

What about TH and Marmot?

Why do you think dunya is town?

Marmot just seems
absent idk I feel like we are starting to hit dead ends on active players

Dunya hesitated on the Scot lynch and didn't like quin much

TH was arguing endlessly with Scotty

Does argung with a civilian make a player scummy? Civilians arguing with civilians is probably the most common occurrence in a mafia game. What did Turnip Head do that made his arguments look suspicious?

[wolbre04]

What about TH and Marmot?

Why do you think dunya is town?

Marmot just seems
absent idk I feel like we are starting to hit dead ends on active players

Dunya hesitated on the Scot lynch and didn't like quin much

TH was arguing endlessly with Scotty

Does argung with a civilian make a player scummy? Civilians arguing with civilians is probably the most common occurrence in a mafia game. What did Turnip Head do that made his arguments look suspicious?

scotty seemed like he could be scum but less so than others

[Sloonei]

I missed this post
I'll shove you into town and quinn into the bottom of the list where u were

why?

which part r u asking about

The whole thing. What part of that post did you like and why did it inspire you to swap quin and i?