Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Turnip Head]

Kyle my question is where is my fanfiction

[Kylemii]

we waited till noon'o'clock and no reads by kyle provided.

For shame. 3Ping or pretending to 3Party Hard.

i took a nap, and not doing things I'm told to do by Sloonei when he's being super weird and not Sloonei-like about things is nai.

Hey Kyle, do you think the townies will celebrate your death?

gross

[Marmot]

Here's a different way to look at the lynch polls for anyone interested.

All town players are colored in blue.
All mafia players are colored in red.
If there were known indies, they would be colored in purple.



DAY 1

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sig
5
Dom (13), M Plus 7 (15), novaselinenever (16), Marmot (17), Golden (20)

Epignosis
4
Scotty (1), Jackofhearts2005 (6), speedchuck (7), wolbre04 (9)

novaselinever
4
Turnip Head (3), MacDougall (10), sig (11), Sloonei (18)

Golden
2
Choutas (2), Lunalee (12)

dunya
2
Long Con (5), Epignosis (8)

Lunalee
2
ColinIsCool (19), Kylemii (21)

Turnip Head
1
dunya (4)

Marmot
1
Spacedaisy (14)

No Vote
2
Kites/Quin, lapluie/colonialbob

DAY 2

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ColinIsCool
14
Sloonei (1), wolbre04 (2), MacDougall (3), Dom (4), Quin (9), Turnip Head (10), speedchuck (11), M Plus 7 (13), Marmot (14), Jackofhearts2005 (16), Golden (17), dunya (18), Kylemii (19), novaselinenever (20)

Sloonei
3
Choutas (5), Scotty (8), ColinIsCool (12)

M Plus 7
3
colonialbob (6), Long Con (7), Lunalee (15)

No Vote
1
Spacedaisy

DAY 3

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Long Con
10
Golden (1), Dom (5), Scotty (8), Spacedaisy (9), speedchuck (10), Lunalee (12), Sloonei (13), Marmot (15), wolbre (16), M Plus 7 (18)

Lunalee
6
novaselinever (2), Quin (6), colonialbob (7), Jackofhearts2005 (11), Long Con (14), dunya (17)

Choutas
1
Turnip Head (3)

Kylemii
1
Choutas (4)

No Vote
1
Kylemii

DAY 4

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Lunalee
8
Jackofhearts2005 (4), M Plus 7 (10), Sloonei (11), colonialbob (13), Golden (14), Kylemii (15), Scotty (16), Spacedaisy (17)

Spacedaisy
6
Marmot (1), novaselinenever (2), Lunalee (5), speedchuck (6), dunya (8), Quin (9)

wolbre04
1
wolbre04 (3)

Sloonei
1
Choutas (7)

M Plus 7
1
Turnip Head (12)

DAY 5

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speedchuck
9
Jackofhearts2005 (1), wolbre04 (3), Kylemii (4), Choutas (5), colonialbob (7), Spacedaisy (8), Turnip Head (9), Sloonei (12), M Plus 7 (14)

novaselinenever
4
Marmot (6), Quin (10), Scotty (11), speedchuck (13)

Spacedaisy
1
novaselinever (2)

No Vote
1
dunya

DAY 6

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Yeah, still nothing to see here.

[Marmot]

The goal for me here is to see where the votes line up against each other, where the mafia have voted, what each day's final wagons looked like, or whatever you like.

One thing is abundantly clear, unless Spacedaisy is mafia, Colin was bussed by every one of his teammates.

Another interesting observation, four of Day 1's six leading wagons are now dead. All four of those players were civilian, the other two being unknown.

[Marmot]

Another observation, Day 3. The two leading wagons were both civilian, and no other lynchee was close to matching their vote total or being lynched. Any member of mafia who was around near Day's end wouldn't really care who was lynched, so looking to see who was participating at EoD, and possibly not playing sincerely would be worth a look.

[Marmot]

If nova was on the lynch poll today, he'd have my vote. I haven't talked about him in a while, but he's still a strong suspect.

Also, his place in the Day 1 lynch is significant. If he's mafia, we know there was a high-stress Day 1 for the mafia team. If he's civilian, we know that mafia had a relatively easy Day 1.

[Kylemii]

has nova been online recently. posted?

[Marmot]

No, his last post came on Monday (Night 5).

@novaselinenever

Come out and plaaaaaaaaaaay.

I'm back. Catching up.

[Marmot]

Hmm, actually the Ground Commander could not possibly have traded that ability away. There's a very strong chance that the Ground Commander targeted nova of his/her own accord.

That changes things with regards to nova.

[Turnip Head]

Another observation, Day 3. The two leading wagons were both civilian, and no other lynchee was close to matching their vote total or being lynched. Any member of mafia who was around near Day's end wouldn't really care who was lynched, so looking to see who was participating at EoD, and possibly not playing sincerely would be worth a look.

I like the way you're shaking your moneymaker, mister marshington

[wolbre04]

Nova could even be the ground commander

[Marmot]

Another observation, Day 3. The two leading wagons were both civilian, and no other lynchee was close to matching their vote total or being lynched. Any member of mafia who was around near Day's end wouldn't really care who was lynched, so looking to see who was participating at EoD, and possibly not playing sincerely would be worth a look.

I like the way you're shaking your moneymaker, mister marshington

I only make this projection because I've been guilty of it myself.

Unfortunately, I'm leaving for a camping trip in an hour, so I won't be around for Day's End. Might be able to check in on my phone, but unlikely.

Linki: my thoughts exactly.

[Turnip Head]

My only thought re: kyle is maybe he really did think Jack had gotten info on speedchuck N4 and that's why kyle was so quick to vote for speed if kyle's purrin. But my kyle can't be bad so we will have to reconcile this suspiciousness with the fact that we need Kyle alive to keep having a good time.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

I don't think lynching Quin is as conducive to a townie victory as lynching mafia. Why you voting him [mention]wolbre04[/mention]?

[Marmot]

So I will vote to save Quin.

[Marmot]

I'm not rushng

I'd also like to hear from Spacedaisy. Been 3 days since her last post.

[Quin]

Hmm, actually the Ground Commander could not possibly have traded that ability away. There's a very strong chance that the Ground Commander targeted nova of his/her own accord.

That changes things with regards to nova.

Why do you think so?

[Quin]

thanks mashy-poo. i owe ya one

I [VOTE: dunya] aubergine because her interactions with known baddies suck.

[Marmot]

Hmm, actually the Ground Commander could not possibly have traded that ability away. There's a very strong chance that the Ground Commander targeted nova of his/her own accord.

That changes things with regards to nova.

Why do you think so?

Oh, so the commander of a faction can offer any ability from their faction, not just their own.

Still, it's unlikely that it was used on a mafia member... Unless a member of the Hellenic league used it on nova. But I find this possibility less likely than the alternative.

I guess it's also possible that the Taxation Surplux turned up that same ability.



Still, with the Ground Commander still alive, the most likely possibility is that player him/herself used it.

[Kylemii]

hey is there a case against me? this is gross. this feels gross

[Kylemii]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] you owe me a case and you owe me some answers

[Marmot]

Good point Kyle.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

[Kylemii]

Good point Kyle.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

saying "good point Kyle" is not an answer :/

[Kylemii]

sorry i thought you were sloonei

[Marmot]

I can be Sloonei for you.

[Turnip Head]

hey is there a case against me? this is gross. this feels gross

Um tell me what to do like for real

[Kylemii]

I can be Sloonei for you.

it's not the same, marmot :[

[Turnip Head]

Okay well i have no idea whos bad to be quite perfectly honest with you all

But i guess it's my job to figure it out

Woe is me

[Quin]

Okay well i have no idea whos bad to be quite perfectly honest with you all

But i guess it's my job to figure it out

Woe is me

time for team IDGAF to take the stage

[Tangrowth]

Just turned in my dissertation. Two weeks from today it’ll be finalized and four weeks from today I’ll be defending it.

[Sloonei]

hey is there a case against me? this is gross. this feels gross

My vote was made in the hopes that it would get you to share reads. You’ve shared 0 reads. I don’t have a case against you in the sense that I’m gonna pull out a a bunch of quotes and analyze them bit by bit. My goal at this point is to develop reads on the players I don’t have reads on in real time.

Let’s start over: who should we lynch today?

[Turnip Head]

We could just go all in on lynching Jack

I got 5 on it

[Sloonei]

We could just go all in on lynching Jack

I got 5 on it

Why should we do that?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hmm, actually the Ground Commander could not possibly have traded that ability away. There's a very strong chance that the Ground Commander targeted nova of his/her own accord.

That changes things with regards to nova.

Why is that?

If I was the ground commander, I’d save that ability for late game and use it on myself.

Interesting observation about the whole mafia bus on Colin. I had something else to say about that but forgot it. Lemme think...

[Turnip Head]

We could just go all in on lynching Jack

I got 5 on it

Why should we do that?

Well it's pretty simple imo. The case for Jack bussing speed basically writes itself. Although I'm pretty sure Scotty took the time to write it out properly just before he died.

So ultinateky you have to decide whether or not you think it's true, and personally I'm out of other ideas atm, so I'm comfortable taking the plunge.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hmm, actually the Ground Commander could not possibly have traded that ability away. There's a very strong chance that the Ground Commander targeted nova of his/her own accord.

That changes things with regards to nova.

Why do you think so?

Oh, so the commander of a faction can offer any ability from their faction, not just their own.

Still, it's unlikely that it was used on a mafia member... Unless a member of the Hellenic league used it on nova. But I find this possibility less likely than the alternative.

I guess it's also possible that the Taxation Surplux turned up that same ability.



Still, with the Ground Commander still alive, the most likely possibility is that player him/herself used it.

Mostly agree.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]
[mention]Quin[/mention]
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

Do something.

[Jackofhearts2005]

We could just go all in on lynching Jack

I got 5 on it

Why should we do that?

Well it's pretty simple imo. The case for Jack bussing speed basically writes itself. Although I'm pretty sure Scotty took the time to write it out properly just before he died.

So ultinateky you have to decide whether or not you think it's true, and personally I'm out of other ideas atm, so I'm comfortable taking the plunge.

Like Bob said, I don’t bus my teammates out of the blue. Bob and I have played dozens of games together.

Clearly, I can hold my own against you and Scotty. Didn’t need to bus Speed if we were buddies.

Get out of your tunnel. It’s not helping the town win.

[Quin]

@Kylemii
@Quin
@Sloonei

Do something.

I did. I voted dunya.

[Turnip Head]

We could just go all in on lynching Jack

I got 5 on it

Why should we do that?

Well it's pretty simple imo. The case for Jack bussing speed basically writes itself. Although I'm pretty sure Scotty took the time to write it out properly just before he died.

So ultinateky you have to decide whether or not you think it's true, and personally I'm out of other ideas atm, so I'm comfortable taking the plunge.

Like Bob said, I don’t bus my teammates out of the blue. Bob and I have played dozens of games together.

Clearly, I can hold my own against you and Scotty. Didn’t need to bus Speed if we were buddies.

Get out of your tunnel. It’s not helping the town win.

I'm not tunneling and you should know that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

We could just go all in on lynching Jack

I got 5 on it

Why should we do that?

Well it's pretty simple imo. The case for Jack bussing speed basically writes itself. Although I'm pretty sure Scotty took the time to write it out properly just before he died.

So ultinateky you have to decide whether or not you think it's true, and personally I'm out of other ideas atm, so I'm comfortable taking the plunge.

Like Bob said, I don’t bus my teammates out of the blue. Bob and I have played dozens of games together.

Clearly, I can hold my own against you and Scotty. Didn’t need to bus Speed if we were buddies.

Get out of your tunnel. It’s not helping the town win.

I'm not tunneling and you should know that.

You are. You’re not working up a sweat at it.

[Turnip Head]

You're right I've been playing lazy and we can step this up if you want

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m torn on Quin.

In some ways, I scum read him when he’s not bad like in Phenon, ASOUE (except we had btsc but otherwise, I would have)...I wanna say Mountains. I told him in CC123 I wasn’t sure I could trust him and then he was trustworthy til the end.

On the other hand, I don’t see any real hunting and I do see the disengagement I saw from him in Fire Emblem, where he was bad.

[Jackofhearts2005]

You're right I've been playing lazy and we can step this up if you want

I don’t need you to tunnel faster. I need you to stop tunneling and go whatever speed you like in a more productive direction.

Or I need to just check your gth reads and ask why you have them.

[Turnip Head]

You're right I've been playing lazy and we can step this up if you want

I don’t need you to tunnel faster. I need you to stop tunneling and go whatever speed you like in a more productive direction.

Or I need to just check your gth reads and ask why you have them.

Oh yeah I bet you'd looooove to point that GTH gun at my Turnip Head head

[Jackofhearts2005]

You're right I've been playing lazy and we can step this up if you want

I don’t need you to tunnel faster. I need you to stop tunneling and go whatever speed you like in a more productive direction.

Or I need to just check your gth reads and ask why you have them.

Oh yeah I bet you'd looooove to point that GTH gun at my Turnip Head head

Not even if I was bad.



[mention]Quin[/mention]

Tell me about Dunya interactions with known scum.

[Kylemii]

hey is there a case against me? this is gross. this feels gross

My vote was made in the hopes that it would get you to share reads. You’ve shared 0 reads.

I don’t have a case against you in the sense that I’m gonna pull out a a bunch of quotes and analyze them bit by bit. My goal at this point is to develop reads on the players I don’t have reads on in real time.

that's understandable but you have to realize that declaring that I've never had an opinionwhile also admitting to not actually having read them is alarmingly unthorough

Let’s start over: who should we lynch today?

idk I actually just feel like a lot of players are kind of stuck in a sticky bad gray area right now and I'm not comfortable with it

[Kylemii]

:[

[Kylemii]

well you can figure that out I guess

[Sloonei]

I don't like playing catch up when I'm far behind. This has been the case for every game I've played in the last couple years. It's not an effective approach for me. I prefer instead to interact with players in real time and develop reads and get informed that way. It means I sometimes ask people to reiterate things that have already been said and miss a lot of discussion points. My hope is that the critical information will be brought to the surface if I just talk to people.

Wanna do a trustfall, Kyle?