Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Kylemii]

i wasn't asking for permission :0

[Turnip Head]

if that's actually what's happening here then i reserve the right to vote for either of them in the future in any game forever, in any context no questions asked.

Lets get Jack first tho and take it from there.

[Kylemii]

do you think it's possible nova actually is the poll remover and popped in during his absense to remove himself from the poll knowing his absense would make him look bad?

[Sloonei]

I said that I did not see why the argument about jack bussing speedchuck existed, and my view of the situation, which was not entirely uninformed, was that Jack was the leader of the speedchuck lynch. This is generally something that I town-read players for.

he wasn't only the leader of the lynch though.

This Scotty post pretty much illustrates the gradual bussing situation:

Spoiler: show

Jack’s Speedchuck interactions:

—Day 1–

Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.

#1

Is it? I'm new to GTH. I thought the gun was only supposed to force you to say town or scum instead of null.

The whole premise of Gun to Head is that it is just that- assumptions you would make on people if you had a gun to your head. Not organized beforehand where you say “ok, I’m thinking I’ll maybe call him bad and him good and oh! Looks like I need to come up with a few more grease monkeys!”

Bad look

#disagree

#why

Cause Speedchuck has done GTH like once or twice and anyway, how is that AI?

I forgot that he was the first to cast doubt on me here. Why is he defending speedchuck?

I’ll tell you what Speedchuck’s real alignment is on Day 6.

lol it’s currently Day 6, and he was lynched yesterday. Coincidence?? I don’t even understand the context of this or why he said it. It wasn’t in response to anything. Wtf

—Day 2—

@dunya

Wanna lynch Speedchuck?

#2

Whatever. You all bad anyway.

IKR?

I caught you and now you’ll get away with it.

#3

—Night 2—

@Dom

Speedchuck, Wolbre, Sloonei.

Luna, I don’t know about. She’s new. What people suspect her for is one post from another player. Do I think that scared Colin distances from a teammate in this scenario? Probably. But I’ve also never played with Colin and only seen his town play in FE so that’s a fair amount to bet without good info. I think Colin avoiding the Sloonei and Sig wagons because Sloonei is a mate to be more convincing.

LC I’m pretty null on. I’m not even shook after I last mislynched him in...MK? I just am not paying much attention to him.

Wolbre especially looks bad if Sloonei is bad. He had the wafflyiest defense of Sloonei since Sloonei threw away his eggo shield.

Speed, I just just don’t buy his rainbow. There are three neutrals and a large town. Two players are messing around. So he thinks they’re both bad? No way, Jose. That rainbow list is made up.

#4

—Day 3—

You're going after Team IDGAF now?

I've been after them for a while.

Cause you need fall guys cause you so bad.

#5

Speedchuck so bad, Michael Jackson gave him the rights to that song.

Speedchuck so evil, Thanos thinks his plans are a bit much.

Speedchuck so corrupt, Republicans are going to nominate him to run for president in 2024.

#6

—Night 3—

Speedchuck prolly bad tho.

Just sayin.

#7

—Day 4—

Lol Luna and Speedchuck bad together. So romantic.

#8

—Night 4—

@speedchuck

Is this the game you aren’t playing in or the one where you are bad?

#9

This is also the time where he and speed start a gif battle of incredulousness.

Okay gimmie gth reads on:

Speedchuck
Speedchuck
Speedchuck
Speedchuck

And why is he bad?

#10

Could one of you guys at least tell people WHY you think I'm bad? I really hope it's not "because meta."

I forget.

#10.5

And that is why Speedchuck is bad.

This is called scumhunting.

#11 (and this is in response to speed calling sprit GTH bad even tho he wasn’t in the game)

And that is why Speedchuck is bad.

This is called scumhunting.

Because I'm not paying enough attention to the game?

Or because I think a player that had completely evaded notice could be bad?

Because I’m a detective and I outsmarted you.

Therefore, you have to be the bad guy or else what am I even doing, right?

#12

—Day 5—

speedchuck, you're bad.

He knows.

#13

I’m going to be serious for the night so enjoy it while you can.

Choutas feels good. Cool as a cucumber under pressure. He doesn’t have an agenda beyond catching baddies.

Dunya has some tied to baddie Colin (I’ve been told) and I could see her bad with Speedchuck. Tone read her as good, which is probably dumb of me but whatever. Not opportunistic. Not leading. That probably cancels out. The “let’s start a game of gth okay nm bye” thing makes her look a little worse, too. Day tone tho.

Quin’s position is built on benefit of the doubt due to scumier players. I cannot recall any of his posts.

Kyle feels town. Heart read.

I don’t remember much of Lap this game but this looks a damn lot like typical town Bob. I’m kinda bad at reading Bob but I feel pretty confident if this read for some reason.

MP is basic town MP, complete with moments of being too busy to post. I’d be shocked if he was anything but town.

Marmot feels good. Then again, I kinda default to town reading Marmot if he does like anything. The colored vote things are more work than they are useful, which is a good place for scum to hide.

Nova is scum. Colin teammate evidence and generally a bad feeling.

Scotty is a possible scum player. As MP said, he’s going after low hanging fruit. Nova and Speedchuck are juicy targets if you want to lynch scum. Team idgaf is actually full of townies if you pay them half an ounce of attention. Scotty faulters sometimes as town but this is a particularly weak method of solving and I don’t buy his panic at all or his complaints about the Luna lynch.

Sloonei feels town and by POE is veeeery unlikely to be bad. Someone said he had Colin links but eh.

Spacedaisy is probably town by POE and also, I just kinda know she’s good.

Speedchuck is blatantly bad. My suspicions really started when he put me and TH low on his rainbow, which is dumb. He’s continued to push that angle in the gentlest of ways. It reeks of not only low hanging fruit but pointing out how nice the fruit is and hoping someone will get it for him. He’s afraid to stick his neck out and go for it himself, which mirrors his passive scum behavior in Pirates and Fire Emblem. He’s complained that I haven’t pursued my read on him in a meaningful way, which until now, is true. However, he’s done nothing to pursue his read of me or any of his reads, really. Without checking, do you know any of Speedchuck’s reads that I didn’t just tell you? Can you think of any hunting or any meaningful contribution he’s made all game? Of course you can’t. No. Speedchuck’s reactions to me are of a scummer who thinks I’m Indy and hopes I’ll never actually push him or that I’ll get myself lynched. His every post is testing the waters for one of those things. He’s not hunting.

TH is town. Duh. When he actually says stuff, the stuff makes sense.

Wolbre is maybe scum for being kinda there and saying wrong mechanical things. Did he have Colin links? I can’t recall.

#14. This is when he starts really laying out a case against speed.

How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.

And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?

I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.

who was pressuring jack

Jack was pressuring Jack. Sick of people assuming my Speedchuck read was a joke of some sort. Ready to see him strung up.

#15

So let me bus Speedchuck.

This is the “Jack is trying to bus Simon” thing from MK all over again. “I think Jack and the person he wants to lynch are both bad so I’m absolutely not going to lynch the person Hack wants to lynch.....for some reason.”

#16 and WIFOM ‘I’m bussing Speedchuck’

an earnest plea, to be sure

Is there a reason you aren’t voting Speedchuck?

Either I’m town and I caught him or I’m bad and I’m bussing him. What’s the problem?

#17

@colonialbob

Tell me why Speedchuck is not a good lynch today.

#18

@speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Scotty got the answer way back when. Scotty is Civ.

Eyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended him

Me. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.

#19. He’s really pushing that bussing WIFOM hard

Scotty got the answer way back when. Scotty is Civ.

Eyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended him

Me. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.

What? I saw no such defense unless it came much later.

You think Speed is town Jack?

No, I think he’s scum. I’m just giving Scotty a hard time. I think I did say Speeds counted scumreads were NAI but maybe that was a similar situation with another player.

#20. Oh, so in this post he admits to just badgering me on D1 and never was defending speed. How nice of him. He always thought speed was bad.

Speedchuck is blatantly bad. My suspicions really started when he put me and TH low on his rainbow, which is dumb. He’s continued to push that angle in the gentlest of ways. It reeks of not only low hanging fruit but pointing out how nice the fruit is and hoping someone will get it for him. He’s afraid to stick his neck out and go for it himself, which mirrors his passive scum behavior in Pirates and Fire Emblem. He’s complained that I haven’t pursued my read on him in a meaningful way, which until now, is true. However, he’s done nothing to pursue his read of me or any of his reads, really. Without checking, do you know any of Speedchuck’s reads that I didn’t just tell you? Can you think of any hunting or any meaningful contribution he’s made all game? Of course you can’t. No. Speedchuck’s reactions to me are of a scummer who thinks I’m Indy and hopes I’ll never actually push him or that I’ll get myself lynched. His every post is testing the waters for one of those things. He’s not hunting.

Jack is trying to prove a point. He might actually think I'm bad if he's 3. He's wrong, and he doesn't care. He never cared before I prodded back at him.

Way I see it, if Jack is 3P, he cannot lose with my lynch. When I flip town, he'll send out his last offer and join scum. If I flipped scum, he'd join town with that extra cred. Tell me his MO doesn't look like this.

Bake him away, toys.

#21

Nova is town.

Jack is trying to prove a point. He might actually think I'm bad if he's 3P. He's wrong, and he doesn't care. He never cared before I prodded back at him.

Way I see it, if Jack is 3P, he cannot lose with my lynch. When I flip town, he'll send out his last offer and join scum. If I flipped scum, he'd join town with that extra cred. Tell me his MO doesn't look like this.

hey by the way what the heck does this mean, do you think jack is 3p?

Fixed a typo.

I think it's likely.

then why are you voting for him

Because spoiler alert, Speedchuck is both wrong and bad.

#22

It appears one of the indies has not picked a side yet. Why are you sure that’s not Jack, speedchuck?

Jack had an abrupt change in behavior today. One of the 3Ps had an abrupt change of alignment today.
That's my theory. It's not bulletproof.

I thought your theory was that I would change based on how you flip. Now I’ve changed based on a changed alignment of a 3P that hadn’t happened yet?

None of this does anything but underline that your’re more concerned with 3P than scum, which is a good portion of my arguement against you.

That WAS my theory. The theory has changed thanks to new info from the OP. New theory makes more sense with your're playstyle and POV.

Okay great. My theory is the same. You care more about if I’m 3P and if so, what I will do with that than you care about finding baddies. Cause you know where the baddies are. Cause you’re bad.

#23

————————————————-
Jack systematically threw speed’s name into the air every. Single. Phase.
On Day 5, he ramped it up and really bombarded the speed speakerphone. He’s really been gunning for speed since day 1. What changed in day 5 that he really hit it home?

you can't call that a normal "I caught scum suddenly" scenario. so nothing of all that pings you at all?

I suppose I am just not seeing it. I looked at all of this and came to the conclusion that Jack looks good. Can you spell it out for my slow ass?

[Turnip Head]

do you think it's possible nova actually is the poll remover and popped in during his absense to remove himself from the poll knowing his absense would make him look bad?

Its more than possible imo. I don't suspect nova tbh.

[Turnip Head]

Sloonei its like... you either see it or you don't.

[Kylemii]

I have to go.

I get off work at 3 today so that gives me an hour and 1 minute to idk probably complain about getting lynched by dunya and jack or whatever, or make a vote to save my life. we'll see. don't stop discussion. i don't care if i die if it means you move closer to finding the last 2. keep talking and also, if you're not dunya, jack, or th, please *start* talking

[Sloonei]

dunya, can you refresh my memory, who are your top suspects today?

wolbre, kyle, JOH, in that order. honestly, my mind is changing every hour. sometimes I get question marks about TH, sometimes I tinfoil on Spacedaisy again, sometimes I think Kyle is being genuine, sometimes I think Sloonei is being ungenuine.

right now I have no idea why I am most confident in my nova read, but maybe cos he's not posting after I made a conclusive read on him.

Can you point me to an ungenuine post?

[Sloonei]

Sloonei its like... you either see it or you don't.

Then I guess I don’t.

Although Marmot’s sirengif on jack on the last page is the first time in a while I’ve felt a noticeable ping from Jack. I could see his reaction to Quin’s flip as fake. This is not strong enough to make me want to vote for him, but it’s there.

[Sloonei]

Aldo my wifi has been down all day. I assume it has to do with the crazy amounts of construction and roadwork that are suddenly being done in my area. I don’t want to use up all my cellular data and I have to go to work in 2 hours so I’m unfortunately not going to be the most active person today. I’ll try to chime in occasionally, but I won’t be a constant thread presence. Hopefully this issue is settled when I get home later tonight.

In the meantime I continue to feel good about a kyle lynch. I see his treatment of speedchuck as more in line with what I’d expect from a busser, and his reads have not felt particularly strong the last couple of day phases, especially if we compare them to Jack’s. But I’ve also seen people cite Jack’s strong reads as reason for suspicion, so whatever. I support a kyle lynch over a Jack lynch if those are the names we’re coming down to.

[Turnip Head]

Kyle should be off the table and rolling around on the floor writing fanfiction as far as I'm concerned

[Kylemii]

, and his reads have not felt particularly strong the last couple of day phases, especially if we compare them to Jack’s.

"disgusting"

why are you comparing me to jack in the first place? we're drastically different players with completely different styles

[Kylemii]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] your homework for the next 4 hours is to look through my Cerberus thread iso at how I treated my teammate boomslang before he had ever received any meaningful attention.

please compare and contrast that with what you think Kyle teammate bussing looks like here.

[Sloonei]

, and his reads have not felt particularly strong the last couple of day phases, especially if we compare them to Jack’s.

"disgusting"

why are you comparing me to jack in the first place? we're drastically different players with completely different styles

Because the two of you seem to be the primary suspects right now.

[Sloonei]

Kyle should be off the table and rolling around on the floor writing fanfiction as far as I'm concerned

I’m listening.

[Kylemii]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] don't do it for me, do it for the players wondering whether your suspicion of me is genuine or not

[Kylemii]

, and his reads have not felt particularly strong the last couple of day phases, especially if we compare them to Jack’s.

"disgusting"

why are you comparing me to jack in the first place? we're drastically different players with completely different styles

Because the two of you seem to be the primary suspects right now.

really gross.

[Kylemii]

i've never known civ sloonei to be the type of player to only focus on the most popular opinions

[Sloonei]

i've never known civ sloonei to be the type of player to only focus on the most popular opinions

This is not what I am saying and by no means do I want to limit the discussion to the two of you. But if you are the names being settled on at day’s end, I have seen no compelling arguments to vote for Jack, and have a handful of reasons to vote for you.

Wolbre and nova are also names that are in the discussion and I encourage people to continue looking at them, as well as dunya and daisy and th and myself. But as you and Jack are currently at the forefront, I am comparing the cases that exist against each of you.

[dunya]

oh hey here's a quick answer that's right in our faces: one thing that strikes me as ungenuine is your inability to at all see anything about jack that is compelling or pings you in his handling of speed. he's my 3rd suspect sure, but to discredit the potential in a bussing case out right seems....seems....something that lacks emotion. if jack wasn't jack and was analyzing someone else's posts he would have seen it pingworthy even.

apparently marmot also saw him as the towniest townie. how come? what are you guys not seeing?

I mean, I'm going back and forth on Jack and I see the townie effort he's making and the way he's handling ME reminds me a little of the time in Mountains Mafia where I thought he was bad because he used "lynch" instead of "mislynch" and I couldn't take it out of my mind he was bad, but he just kinda talked above that and kept making cases and kept scumhunting without omgusing. this is the part TH posts a gif of me and JOH holding hands.

[dunya]

#Kyle end of day is tomorrow. I feel like you're thinking it's today.

[dunya]

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] can you please for the love of everything you hold sacred to you, come in and give me some opinions about people.

[Sloonei]

oh hey here's a quick answer that's right in our faces: one thing that strikes me as ungenuine is your inability to at all see anything about jack that is compelling or pings you in his handling of speed. he's my 3rd suspect sure, but to discredit the potential in a bussing case out right seems....seems....something that lacks emotion. if jack wasn't jack and was analyzing someone else's posts he would have seen it pingworthy even.

apparently marmot also saw him as the towniest townie. how come? what are you guys not seeing?

I mean, I'm going back and forth on Jack and I see the townie effort he's making and the way he's handling ME reminds me a little of the time in Mountains Mafia where I thought he was bad because he used "lynch" instead of "mislynch" and I couldn't take it out of my mind he was bad, but he just kinda talked above that and kept making cases and kept scumhunting without omgusing. this is the part TH posts a gif of me and JOH holding hands.

Did you read my gigantic post in which I analyzed jack’s developing read on speedchuck and speedchuck’s interactions with jack? Because I put a lot of work into that and felt like I expressed myself pretty clearly, a true masterpiece. I thought he looked very good and I maintain this read. I’m being tood that I “just don’t see it” to which I say I guess I don’t. I can if I wrap myself in tinfoil, buf I prefer not to do that. I find that the correct solution to mafia problems, more often than not, is the one that involves the least tinfoil.

I have been trying to engage in a discussion about this case for a while now and haven’t found a convincing argument yet. I think Jack is town.

[dunya]

what's the opposite of genuine? fake? ungenuine isn't really a word but it should be.

[dunya]

oh hey here's a quick answer that's right in our faces: one thing that strikes me as ungenuine is your inability to at all see anything about jack that is compelling or pings you in his handling of speed. he's my 3rd suspect sure, but to discredit the potential in a bussing case out right seems....seems....something that lacks emotion. if jack wasn't jack and was analyzing someone else's posts he would have seen it pingworthy even.

apparently marmot also saw him as the towniest townie. how come? what are you guys not seeing?

I mean, I'm going back and forth on Jack and I see the townie effort he's making and the way he's handling ME reminds me a little of the time in Mountains Mafia where I thought he was bad because he used "lynch" instead of "mislynch" and I couldn't take it out of my mind he was bad, but he just kinda talked above that and kept making cases and kept scumhunting without omgusing. this is the part TH posts a gif of me and JOH holding hands.

Did you read my gigantic post in which I analyzed jack’s developing read on speedchuck and speedchuck’s interactions with jack? Because I put a lot of work into that and felt like I expressed myself pretty clearly, a true masterpiece. I thought he looked very good and I maintain this read. I’m being tood that I “just don’t see it” to which I say I guess I don’t. I can if I wrap myself in tinfoil, buf I prefer not to do that. I find that the correct solution to mafia problems, more often than not, is the one that involves the least tinfoil.

I have been trying to engage in a discussion about this case for a while now and haven’t found a convincing argument yet. I think Jack is town.

I guess Jack to you is what nova is to me.

[dunya]

guys, sloonei is town. me, kyle and TH wanted to lynch Jack in varying amounts. if Sloonei was scum, he would have hopped on that. his resistance is a towntell.

look how easy poe is.

me, marmot, sloonei, nova. we're all town. gth so is daisy.

JOH, wolbre, TH and Kyle. find 2 scum in those. piece of cake. game won.

ok i really need to finish my wolbre post so I can move on. why do isos feel like homework these days..

[Marmot]

Hey dunya, what if I told you wolbre Indy-slipped?

[dunya]

Hey dunya, what if I told you wolbre Indy-slipped?

where?

[Sloonei]

So I just received confirmation that the wifi is indeed down thanks to construction being done outside my house. This was an accident, it was not supposed to happen, and the construction crew has nobody on standby to correct it. We had to contact the cable company ourselves to find this out and arrange for it to be fixed (I say we as if I actuallt had a part in thia). It won’t be back up until around the time I leave for work tomorrow. This is after a week in which I’ve been getting woken up as early as 7 AM by their jackhammering right outside my window, and one day where they had blocked off the section of the road where my driveway is located, so I couldn’t even leave my house without being stopped. This whole rant is off-topic, but the main point is I can only phone post for the rest of this day phase and I can’t be too active. Also I’m going to work now anyway. This sucks. I’m sorry y’all. Keep doing good work.

[wolbre04]

what's the opposite of genuine? fake? ungenuine isn't really a word but it should be.

Ingenuine, insincere, bogus

[Marmot]

Don't group Sloon and Quin into the same web that I'm in btw. It would be unfair to let me pull anyone else down with me

[mention]dunya[/mention]

There's stuff to read about it here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't understand why anyone would think I'm faking skimming Jimmy's lynch writeup for Quin and then seeing it on the front page.

There are no roles that would have known who Quin was or who he sided with. That's not a useful thing to fake cause if people believe me, it doesn't make me look more town and it doesn't make anyone else look less town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jackofhearts2005 your homework for the next 4 hours is to look through my Cerberus thread iso at how I treated my teammate boomslang before he had ever received any meaningful attention.

please compare and contrast that with what you think Kyle teammate bussing looks like here.

No.

[Jackofhearts2005]

guys, sloonei is town. me, kyle and TH wanted to lynch Jack in varying amounts. if Sloonei was scum, he would have hopped on that. his resistance is a towntell.

look how easy poe is.

me, marmot, sloonei, nova. we're all town. gth so is daisy.

JOH, wolbre, TH and Kyle. find 2 scum in those. piece of cake. game won.

ok i really need to finish my wolbre post so I can move on. why do isos feel like homework these days..

Yeah, I need you to do that Wolbre post cause I want you to turn my POE of 3 into a POE of 2.

[Spacedaisy]

Dunya what way are you leaning on which of those four are scum?

(Don't pass out from surprise that I actually posted)

[Marmot]

Dunya what way are you leaning on which of those four are scum?

(Don't pass out from surprise that I actually posted)

[Spacedaisy]

Awe, if you look that cute passing out, then please continue.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dunya what way are you leaning on which of those four are scum?

(Don't pass out from surprise that I actually posted)

[Spacedaisy]

lol, I love you guys

[Scotty]

So I just received confirmation that the wifi is indeed down thanks to construction being done outside my house. This was an accident, it was not supposed to happen, and the construction crew has nobody on standby to correct it. We had to contact the cable company ourselves to find this out and arrange for it to be fixed (I say we as if I actuallt had a part in thia). It won’t be back up until around the time I leave for work tomorrow. This is after a week in which I’ve been getting woken up as early as 7 AM by their jackhammering right outside my window, and one day where they had blocked off the section of the road where my driveway is located, so I couldn’t even leave my house without being stopped. This whole rant is off-topic, but the main point is I can only phone post for the rest of this day phase and I can’t be too active. Also I’m going to work now anyway. This sucks. I’m sorry y’all. Keep doing good work.

you shouldn’t ever live in NYC then. This has been my nightmare since January. Leaving the windows open spells a perpetual alarm of jackhammers at 7a EVERY DAY. My ears have gone into exile at this point where I tune it all out

[Kylemii]

Look, jack, if I bus speedchuck I'm gonna have fun with it. Make a party out of it. Bussing is something you do good or don't do at all.

I voted for speed early and asked spacedaisy to look into him. Specifically to test her and see how she'd react.

doing that as a teammate of speed has no utility other than to get him lynched, wouldn't give me credit so there's no actual benefit to doing it.

We've been through this same song and dance so many times and in so many games, I need you to realize that you just don't know how to read me. You expect my actions to be basic and up front but they rarely are because that's now what my approach to mafia is.

Idk how you keep doing this.

[Marmot]

I'm not a fan of this Kyle wagon.

Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do to stop it.

[Kylemii]

i've never known civ sloonei to be the type of player to only focus on the most popular opinions

This is not what I am saying and by no means do I want to limit the discussion to the two of you. But if you are the names being settled on at day’s end, I have seen no compelling arguments to vote for Jack, and have a handful of reasons to vote for you.

Wolbre and nova are also names that are in the discussion and I encourage people to continue looking at them, as well as dunya and daisy and th and myself. But as you and Jack are currently at the forefront, I am comparing the cases that exist against each of you.

I have 3 votes, jack has 1. Nothing's decided.

[Kylemii]

Jackofhearts2005 your homework for the next 4 hours is to look through my Cerberus thread iso at how I treated my teammate boomslang before he had ever received any meaningful attention.

please compare and contrast that with what you think Kyle teammate bussing looks like here.

No.

do you even care what my alignment is

[Kylemii]

oh hey here's a quick answer that's right in our faces: one thing that strikes me as ungenuine is your inability to at all see anything about jack that is compelling or pings you in his handling of speed. he's my 3rd suspect sure, but to discredit the potential in a bussing case out right seems....seems....something that lacks emotion. if jack wasn't jack and was analyzing someone else's posts he would have seen it pingworthy even.

it's cus he's 3rd party sided with mafia

[Kylemii]

#Kyle end of day is tomorrow. I feel like you're thinking it's today.

what

oh my god you're right. i had the deadlines confused.

[Kylemii]

JOH, wolbre, TH and Kyle. find 2 scum in those. piece of cake. game won.

Is that consistent with The Math?

[Kylemii]

I'm not a fan of this Kyle wagon.

Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do to stop it.

you can do whatever you want, apparently the day ends tomorrow.

who do you suspect

[Sloonei]

i've never known civ sloonei to be the type of player to only focus on the most popular opinions

This is not what I am saying and by no means do I want to limit the discussion to the two of you. But if you are the names being settled on at day’s end, I have seen no compelling arguments to vote for Jack, and have a handful of reasons to vote for you.

Wolbre and nova are also names that are in the discussion and I encourage people to continue looking at them, as well as dunya and daisy and th and myself. But as you and Jack are currently at the forefront, I am comparing the cases that exist against each of you.

I have 3 votes, jack has 1. Nothing's decided.

This is true. Tell me about wolbre and nova. And if there’s a deep cover scum, who is it?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm not a fan of this Kyle wagon.

Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do to stop it.

Where should we vote instead?