Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[dunya]

another thing, if i were mafia there's no way id be okay with my team killing golden on night 2.

golden being in this game was maybe the only reason why i signed up.

me too tbh, it's the first game we play together

[Kylemii]

Well... Golden and Turnip Head*

[Kylemii]

dunya you've been putting off isoing me since like day 6 :lol:

[dunya]

@JaggedJimmyJay nova is not in the poll?

Okay well I guess someone removed nova from the goddamn poll

wolbre was also the first one to realize nova was not on the poll last phase. if they're w/w this makes a lot of sense.

[wolbre04]

sorry guys, I was landscaping outside and pulled a muscle in my lower back while carrying some huge rocks to the other side of my garden when I shouldn't have (old age ) i'm in a lot of fucking pain but i'm here again.

Sorry to hear this fellow senior citizen

[dunya]

dunya you've been putting off isoing me since like day 6 :lol:

sorry friend, I usually have more time when I'm doing office work, but I've been doing field work since I got back from Paris so I've been out of the office 85% of my time. It's....coming.... I just feel overwhelmed since everyone has like 10 pages of iso. nice to see everyone active but i miss inactives now.

[Kylemii]

if wolbre and sloonei aren't Indies then it fucks a lot of my assumptions up

[wolbre04]

@JaggedJimmyJay nova is not in the poll?

Okay well I guess someone removed nova from the goddamn poll

wolbre was also the first one to realize nova was not on the poll last phase. if they're w/w this makes a lot of sense.

Not me being scumread for noticing a mistake and then realizing what it was

[Jackofhearts2005]

spacedaisy was largely the cause of speedchuck death and speedchuck voted for her when she was almost lynched, 2 votes down from

sloonei and wolbre are probably indies, I think? maybe I'm wrong. if anyone has a reason to think they're not, say something because if their placement is different then it changes a few things.

Marmot is helot.

I still don't believe that Nova's interactions with Colin gaurantee his innocence as much as you guys seem to think they do.

that should leave dunya and Turnip Head but that doesn't feel right as a mafia pairing especially considering turnip head is trying to lynch dunya. so something from earlier has to be wrong.

Am I still indie because wolbre allegedly slipped like ten years ago? Because that’s a thing that you’re wrong about and I’m surprised that theory has survived this long. I have no particular reason to believe he is indie either, but I can’t exactly say I’ve been indie hunting.

I wouldn't say Indy hunting is a priority other than for PoE. are you really not Indy?

if only one of dunya or th is bad, which is it?

hmm gth I'd say dunya, but only cus I think th's strategy of declaring war with the sun doesn't necessarily make sense to me in terms of mafia strategy

Or town strategy.

At least as a mafia strategy it’s somewhat of a cover from having to do anything.

[dunya]

i have 2 hours till eod correct?

[dunya]

@JaggedJimmyJay nova is not in the poll?

Okay well I guess someone removed nova from the goddamn poll

wolbre was also the first one to realize nova was not on the poll last phase. if they're w/w this makes a lot of sense.

Not me being scumread for noticing a mistake and then realizing what it was

seems....rehearsed ykwim?

[dunya]

sorry guys, I was landscaping outside and pulled a muscle in my lower back while carrying some huge rocks to the other side of my garden when I shouldn't have (old age ) i'm in a lot of fucking pain but i'm here again.

Sorry to hear this fellow senior citizen

thanks, friendo!

[dunya]

i'm gonna read Kyle's ISO and make a conclusive statement of whether or not I'll vote for him instead of wolbre today.

I don't have time to make a full ISO today sadly. life's shit when you cna't play mafia 24/7.

[wolbre04]

sorry guys, I was landscaping outside and pulled a muscle in my lower back while carrying some huge rocks to the other side of my garden when I shouldn't have (old age ) i'm in a lot of fucking pain but i'm here again.

Sorry to hear this fellow senior citizen

thanks, friendo!

Let's lynch the scum!
(And roll the dice some)
[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

[dunya]

sorry MARMOT i forgot again [VOTE: wolbre] aubergine

[wolbre04]

sorry guys, I was landscaping outside and pulled a muscle in my lower back while carrying some huge rocks to the other side of my garden when I shouldn't have (old age ) i'm in a lot of fucking pain but i'm here again.

Sorry to hear this fellow senior citizen

thanks, friendo!

Let's lynch the scum!
(And roll the dice some)
[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

I'm here for a limited time as I pulled over for this. I won't be home for hours as I'm going home, grabbing my gym bag, and going to soccer. If I'm lynched I'm lynched, it is what it is. Otherwise I'll post my reads when I get home

[wolbre04]

And I'll continue to vehemently deny being an indie

[dunya]

And I'll continue to vehemently deny being an indie

funny thing is, I didn't call you indie. I'm accusing you of being scum. what do you say to that?

[dunya]

sorry guys, I was landscaping outside and pulled a muscle in my lower back while carrying some huge rocks to the other side of my garden when I shouldn't have (old age ) i'm in a lot of fucking pain but i'm here again.

Sorry to hear this fellow senior citizen

thanks, friendo!

Let's lynch the scum!
(And roll the dice some)
[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

I'm here for a limited time as I pulled over for this. I won't be home for hours as I'm going home, grabbing my gym bag, and going to soccer. If I'm lynched I'm lynched, it is what it is. Otherwise I'll post my reads when I get home

oh sure, use the soccer excuse to butter me up...

[dunya]

wolbre removes his vote off kyle and self votes. why do I feel weird about this.

[wolbre04]

I'm fine dying or having Kyle die. I think he is scum, you think I am scum, but I am town.
Lynching myself will clear me from your muddy player list and help for clarity

[dunya]

this game along with 2/3rds of mountains mafia has caused my mind to explode the most in all the mafia games i've plays.

[wolbre04]

I'm not scum either. I'm neither 3p nor persian

[wolbre04]

But if it clears your conscience please lynch me. I won't lolcat, as I'm not scum. It'll remove me from youre POE and will also basically remove the last person mafia could kill and be hard to determine a connection.

[dunya]

if you ARE town, I strongly encourage you to fight your lynch not throw the towel in.

throwing the towel in methods have lost their effect on me. I used to feel bad, but I've seen it be abused one too many times by heartless mafia so I won't just drop it.

give me a better case than you, wolbre.

[wolbre04]

I really don't have the time to do anything major because I'm driving and I can't keep pulling over or I'll get to my game late.
I think that Kyle is extremely suspicious but people aren't as deadset on him being scum. With me people seem to think I'm scum or 3p, so...
I think that Kyle is the best bet to lynch. If HE flips town, move onto Jack or TH. TH and Kyle are buddying hard. Of course it could all be in good fun/for shits and giggles, but its been going on for awhile and their interactions have largely been them swooning over each other.

[wolbre04]

I really don't have the time to fight my lynch in detail, other than saying "oh woe is me, I'm town and please don't kill me" *helpless whimper*
I have to peace out for now, I'll put my vote on Kyle again as I don't think people want me to clear myself from their pools. I have to go now, see you on the other side, if not - good luck town, sweep the persians into the gutter for me
[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

[wolbre04]

To town: Sorry that I've dug myself into this little pit and therefore confined myself to the list of problem people
To 3p: I hope you picked Athens or Sparta
to mafia: You deserve to lose

[wolbre04]

I bid thee farewell, fellow townies and Kyle

[Jackofhearts2005]

almost done wth wolbre iso.

then I'll have time for Kyle before EOD before I see who to vote for.

my vote will go on one of them today.

q: so I see Kyle was scum in GoC. was he emotional when caught scum in that game?

What if neither wolbre or kyle are viable options at the end of the day?

Kyle always plays emotionally to some degree, I think. I am reminded of his GOC behavior more when he says things like “my attention is focused elsewhere” and “i’m tired”. I remember him using things like that in self-defense when he was pressured there. But that was also a longer and more drawn-out case against him that took forever to fully come together. I would expect more emotion, regardless of his alignment, on a case like this one which has come together relatively quickly.

He got emotional enough that he felt the need to take a time out and apologize to me later.

in GoC?? as well?
hmmmmm

no he's just talking about here. jack wasn't part of the GoC.

I was, I was just nked early because the mafia fears me. Actually, it was for some less awesome reason but I forget.

[dunya]

you said if kyle flips town, look into Jack and TH

what if kyle flips scum, which you supposedly believe he will? you didn't say who then?

you may be gone and not see this. oh well.

[Kylemii]

[mention]wolbre04[/mention] why do you even think I'm bad

[Kylemii]

why are you getting all doom and gloomy, you have 1 vote.

[wolbre04]

you said if kyle flips town, look into Jack and TH

what if kyle flips scum, which you supposedly believe he will? you didn't say who then?

you may be gone and not see this. oh well.

If Kyle flips scum, hmm I'll think about that while I drive
In case I die:

Did this as I grabbed my bag

[dunya]

awwww man, brennan is my new adoptive son.

[dunya]

Jack...you've been quiet.

are you firm on your kylemii vote?

[dunya]

Dunya what way are you leaning on which of those four are scum?

(Don't pass out from surprise that I actually posted)

yay!

right now from scummiest to least

wolbre/nova
kyle
TH
JOH
Sloonei
Daisy
Marmot
dunya

i'm really sold on the wolbre/nova scumship right now. if I've cracked this nut, I'm going to arrogantly say I still got skillz.

but I'm still reading Kyle's iso. there wasn't any real significant wolbre/kyle interaction tbh.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

Don't bother with Sloonei for now, we have bigger fish to fry

Okay junior. Don't come in here and try to shit all over my work without explaining why all of a sudden you have such a great town read on him that you want to completely take him off the table. Explain why.

I never said he's town but I'm fairly certain he's not mafia. Refer to my post where I said I will address this later on. That doesn't mean we should ignore him, but I'm less worried about him for now. He ISNT off the table yet for me.

I'm much more sure of Colin being scum as I've mentioned him with more certainty than his buddies.
[VOTE: COLINISCOOL] aubergine

I had the thought that Sloonei was a possible member of the Hellenic League too, but quite frankly I don't give a crap and if we lynch him and he flips any of those three I would consider that a net positive given they have the future capacity to be scum anyway. I'd also consider it slightly less likely mathematically than him just being outright Persian.

Possibly the “Mac saw it” post but I don’t follow it. Wolbre shouldn’t know Sloonei based on BTSC cause he doesn’t know Sloonei, which is the only thing Mac maybe gets.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack...you've been quiet.

are you firm on your kylemii vote?

I’ve missed the last page or so but I’m pretty happy with the Kyle vote.

Should I not be?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nm. Probably this.

Spoiler: show

dunya
Dom
novaselinenever
Scotty
Marmot
Turnip Head
M Plus 7
Golden
Choutas
speedchuck
Kylemii
Jackofhearts2005
quin
Spacedaisy
wolbre04
Lunalee
colonialbob
Long Con
Sloonei
ColinIsCool

Just for you Nova.

The highlights.

I am confident that was a townslip by dunya.
Marmot doesn't kill Epi night one.
Scotty is consistently saying things that make sense to me.
I like Nova's effort.
Turnip Head dropped a bit because I have concerns about his effort.
Golden is mixing me up with the fact that we share lots of opinions but he is just persistently pinging me
MP7 gets less pingy the more sustained his presence is. Every time he disappears and reappears he goes through another cycle of pinging me.
I just gut read Choutas as town. His posts seem genuine.
Very null on those speedchuck through spacedaisy. Bet your ass there are scum laying low in there, especially since every single one of them can do way better than they are. Coasters.
wolbre would be lower but I am using discretion based on him being new to presume I am pinged by him for that reason.
Lunalee is a ping machine.
Colonialbob has pinged me since he entered the game.
Colin drops below Sloonei because I think it's possible Wolbre infoslipped on him. Long Con is above them because of the three he has had the most scum hunting effort shown and I kinda liked his back and forth with Dom.

Are you implying that I outed him as a teammate? I'm not sure what you're trying to say aside from the surface of Sloon I can provide

No I think there is a chance that you have info on him and then blatantly said you did and have backtracked since then when someone pointed out it was against the rules.

Is there a living or dead info role that would know Sloonei isn’t bad but could still be Indy?

I recall some half cops and mafia role checks but nothing like what Wolbre is saying/no longer saying.

[Kylemii]

wolbres read on me is fake :/

[Kylemii]

fake news

[Marmot]

Why not lynch nova then dunya?

wolbre is probably indie-sided-scum if he is scum. Nova is probably actually scum. I don't like your approach here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

if wolbre and sloonei aren't Indies then it fucks a lot of my assumptions up

Why don’t you list the assumptions based on them being indy and then do the same based on them not?

[Jackofhearts2005]

@JaggedJimmyJay nova is not in the poll?

Okay well I guess someone removed nova from the goddamn poll

wolbre was also the first one to realize nova was not on the poll last phase. if they're w/w this makes a lot of sense.

Not me being scumread for noticing a mistake and then realizing what it was

Idk what this means.

[Turnip Head]

I am Jack's Inner Ring of Hell.

[Marmot]

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention], under an hour 'til Eod, we need your votes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm fine dying or having Kyle die. I think he is scum, you think I am scum, but I am town.
Lynching myself will clear me from your muddy player list and help for clarity

Fucking why? It’s likely lylo. There are no players who should be okay being lynched. You should be fighting tooth and nail to save yourself.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]
You too.

If a townie or town aligned neutral decides to be lynched and we lose tonight, you will go down in Jack’s hall of shame, like the jester who voted when there were 3 players left.

[Kylemii]

if wolbre and sloonei aren't Indies then it fucks a lot of my assumptions up

Why don’t you list the assumptions based on them being indy and then do the same based on them not?

because i'm at costco and the wifi sucks here

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: wolbre] aubergine