Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:41 pmbut I dislike Jay's defense of "Don't lynch your most active player". Would he say the same about dunya?
It seems the most popular meme in recent Syndicate history is to morph Jay's words into something brazenly stupid and then criticize them. I am everyone's favorite straw man.
I'm sorry that this sort of thing is happening. I don't mean to wrap your words into a one-line summary that might not be true, and that's probably a product of my not reading everything you said, and projecting my interpretation on what I did read.
Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:41 am
MacDougall's token poop flings serve no function in this game to this point at least for him, because he hasn't done anything with them. I will absolutely not be giving him any credit for sticking random garbage into the thread without expansion (JJJ is bad / JJJ and wolbre are teammates are pulled from the void, not from anything in this game). Things like that can have purpose if the player builds on them after reactions are generated. Mac has done fuck all with a pile of reactions I have supplied to him beyond a laughter emoji. Zero town points awarded.
Did you not realize that Mac had replaced out when you made this post?
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:33 pm
It was an attempt to goad you into the thread, so I would say it is semi-serious. It is slightly more serious because of your reply to me earlier
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:58 pm
I voted bwt. I'm pretty sure he is bad.
hello, welcome
what makes you think Birdwithteeth11 is bad?
they have not posted yet
Lapluie was a civilian in that game, while Simon was mafia. Meanwhile in this game, lapluie silently placed a vote on TheFloyd who hasn't posted yet. This put Floyd at 2 votes, and in second overall. The reason for voting TheFloyd? He's been inactive thus far.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:41 am
MacDougall's token poop flings serve no function in this game to this point at least for him, because he hasn't done anything with them. I will absolutely not be giving him any credit for sticking random garbage into the thread without expansion (JJJ is bad / JJJ and wolbre are teammates are pulled from the void, not from anything in this game). Things like that can have purpose if the player builds on them after reactions are generated. Mac has done fuck all with a pile of reactions I have supplied to him beyond a laughter emoji. Zero town points awarded.
Did you not realize that Mac had replaced out when you made this post?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:41 am
MacDougall's token poop flings serve no function in this game to this point at least for him, because he hasn't done anything with them. I will absolutely not be giving him any credit for sticking random garbage into the thread without expansion (JJJ is bad / JJJ and wolbre are teammates are pulled from the void, not from anything in this game). Things like that can have purpose if the player builds on them after reactions are generated. Mac has done fuck all with a pile of reactions I have supplied to him beyond a laughter emoji. Zero town points awarded.
Did you not realize that Mac had replaced out when you made this post?
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:46 pm
Jay, what do you make of MP7?
I haven't taken issue to this point. He seems to be trying to make a mark despite his time constraints. If I were to state a beef, it'd be that he has been pretty easy to sell so far (backing off his suspicion of me and one other person I can't recall specifically -- I'll check). I wouldn't lynch him yet though.
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I have nothing against lynching a low-content player. I don't know why it should be Floyd though. I can conceive of reasons to suspect lapluie and Dizzy beyond just having few posts. There is nothing but a blank void for Floyd. Sweet rhyme.
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Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am[VOTE:
M Plus 7] aubergine
After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm
well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm
The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.
I am talking about Mafia.
All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?
I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.
This guy is mafia.
I appreciate your attention, but you are mistaken.
Your thoughts are predicated on the comparison that my gameplay is similar to yours, specifically in that what is alignment indicative for you also is for me, but I don't think that's true. Would you say that we play similarly enough that such a comparison would prove meaningful? I wouldn't.
It's true I'm not in hardcore scum hunting mode yet, I'll give you that. I'm working my way there. Doesn't mean I'm mafia. If anything, whenever I'm mafia I always feel pressured to force that much earlier on. Instead I think my ISO displays that I'm trying to let it happen organically. I have nothing to hide.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
I have nothing against lynching a low-content player. I don't know why it should be Floyd though. I can conceive of reasons to suspect lapluie and Dizzy beyond just having few posts. There is nothing but a blank void for Floyd. Sweet rhyme.
Nutella is actively looking to replace in, so I don't see a reason to lynch Floyd if we can find a better solution.
As for low-content, depends how they look. Laplulie has been low-content but I find her somewhat suspicious for what she has said. Dizzy has been low-content, but she's promised to be around before the deadline, so I'm willing to give her that chance.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Fair gripe, but also one that dooms the suspect from the first moment it is stated. Once you have said it, then no matter when MP starts to do work -- it came after you said it.
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ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:04 pm
Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.
What if a replacement is happening?
nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:55 pm
omg this is a trip
@G-Man if you end up needing a replacement I might be crazy enough to join this
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Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Fair gripe, but also one that dooms the suspect from the first moment it is stated. Once you have said it, then no matter when MP starts to do work -- it came after you said it.
Can he win?
With me? Probably not.
But that works with any case made. The content he's put up has already been posted and analyzed, he can't change what he's said, only what he will do.
If nutella actually is getting in the game, I'll take that over removing the spot in a heartbeat.
In the earlier post I (thought I?) made, I said I really liked Marmot's post up there on lapluie. That's a direct contradiction in play — you don't get them any clearer. Coupled with the low-key evasive behavior, I can get behind a [VOTE:
LAPLUIE] aubergine lynch.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am[VOTE:
M Plus 7] aubergine
After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm
well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm
The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.
I am talking about Mafia.
All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?
I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.
This guy is mafia.
I appreciate your attention, but you are mistaken.
Your thoughts are predicated on the comparison that my gameplay is similar to yours, specifically in that what is alignment indicative for you also is for me, but I don't think that's true. Would you say that we play similarly enough that such a comparison would prove meaningful? I wouldn't.
It's true I'm not in hardcore scum hunting mode yet, I'll give you that. I'm working my way there. Doesn't mean I'm mafia. If anything, whenever I'm mafia I always feel pressured to force that much earlier on. Instead I think my ISO displays that I'm trying to let it happen organically. I have nothing to hide.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Fair gripe, but also one that dooms the suspect from the first moment it is stated. Once you have said it, then no matter when MP starts to do work -- it came after you said it.
Can he win?
How is it a fair gripe then? What you described is the exact definition of unfair.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Fair gripe, but also one that dooms the suspect from the first moment it is stated. Once you have said it, then no matter when MP starts to do work -- it came after you said it.
Can he win?
How is it a fair gripe then? What you described is the exact definition of unfair.
I understand the suspicion even if it doesn't necessarily leave many avenues. You can't win after the accusation, but it still has validity given your content before the accusation.
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wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 2:05 am
7) Info-dumping and/or role-claiming is forbidden legal. Do so at your own peril
Forbidden legal? Does this mean its allowed but stupid? Seems contradictory
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Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:29 pm
I don't think I'm being unfair, just point out a thing that I found suspicious :[
I did not mean to imply you are doing anything against the spirit of the game, apologies. You're fine. You're incorrectly tunneling me, but it's fine; it goes with the game.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:00 pm
My qualm with MP7 is that he didn't put his head down and get into things until I called him out for not doing so.
Fair gripe, but also one that dooms the suspect from the first moment it is stated. Once you have said it, then no matter when MP starts to do work -- it came after you said it.
Can he win?
How is it a fair gripe then? What you described is the exact definition of unfair.
I understand the suspicion even if it doesn't necessarily leave many avenues. You can't win after the accusation, but it still has validity given your content before the accusation.
Okay, I just wasn't sure how you were reconciling your statements because they seemed potentially incompatible. Thanks.
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I get it, thanks. I just am torn between whether it makes lapluie a transparent scum or a low hanging fruit townie. There's not much to judge, which makes the determination difficult.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:35 pm
I hate Dizzy's vote. Why should I not hate Dizzy's vote?
It made my wagon 4-strong, and nobody else had more than 2 (not even sure there was a 2).
It patently sucks, but how does it make Dizzy scum?
Well, uh. Orange ~~~> Yellow
It doesn't have to "make Dizzy scum", but it's bad. At that point I was the thread's most vocal presence and the one churning it forward (against my own wishes ). Dizzy dropped in with nothing to say and then stuck a vote on a prevailing wagon for the most active player. That's gross. I'm still in line to be lynched right now as a result, with the deadline in under four hours.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:35 pm
I hate Dizzy's vote. Why should I not hate Dizzy's vote?
It made my wagon 4-strong, and nobody else had more than 2 (not even sure there was a 2).
It patently sucks, but how does it make Dizzy scum?
Well, uh. Orange ~~~> Yellow
It doesn't have to "make Dizzy scum", but it's bad. At that point I was the thread's most vocal presence and the one churning it forward (against my own wishes ). Dizzy dropped in with nothing to say and then stuck a vote on a prevailing wagon for the most active player. That's gross. I'm still in line to be lynched right now as a result, with the deadline in under four hours.
I understand all of that, but townies make patently horrible and illogical moves all the time. You get where I'm going with this.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:41 pm
I understand all of that, but townies make patently horrible and illogical moves all the time. You get where I'm going with this.
I don't think it's "illogical". It's nothing. Do you know of a civilian motive?
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