Easter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Tangrowth]

No one wants to join me on Elo? Bummer.

[Kylemii]

In Ancient Greece, Choutas got off to a slow start. He didn't hesitate to make game-relevant comments though, and he was incisive.

Ancient Greece Choutas ISO

This time he has given much less in the way of reads, and doesn't seem oriented toward getting to a place where he can have reads.

Easter Choutas ISO

I agree with your assessment, I forgot choutas was so active in greece

[Kylemii]

is there any outside reason why choutas behavior might be different here?

[lapluie]

No one wants to join me on Elo? Bummer.

Eloh is good at lying so it's hard to tell if she's good or bad tbh

[Epignosis]

No one wants to join me on Elo? Bummer.

Eloh is good at lying so it's hard to tell if she's good or bad tbh

She is? She's below the Mendoza Line.

[Tangrowth]

is there any outside reason why choutas behavior might be different here?

What do you mean by outside reason?

[Tangrowth]

No one wants to join me on Elo? Bummer.

Eloh is good at lying so it's hard to tell if she's good or bad tbh

She is? She's below the Mendoza Line.

[Tangrowth]

What are your reads, Charlienosis?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

No one wants to join me on Elo? Bummer.

It's not an inspiring option. It's an option.

[Tangrowth]

Jay, how do you feel specifically regarding Elo now?

Linki: Well, that partially answers this question.

[Quin]

Here's My Reads list, I'll try to provide a small quip next to each one (just in the order i saw them)
Order of the Manboob
Wolbre04 - lord and savior
JJJ - t/t argument with MP7, me and Lilefer have a similar way of playing as t/t against each other
Charlie Black Man


Knights of the Nipple

Kyle
Lapluie - compared to a previous civ game, u look good
Colin
Quin
Nova - fine except that JJJ vote
MP7 - Argument with Jay seems t/t
Marmot/Mac - got us info that makes laplui look pretty good
Quin

Choutas
Dizzy - dont like your vote on JJJ
Scotty - always wants me dead
Choutas - Who is she

Sekiy
Elohcin
Floyd - Who is she

really exhausted tbh, ima get some sleep, cya guys later

so town im on there twice

[Tangrowth]

What makes Elo a less inspiring option than Choutas or someone else? Or do you not feel that way?

[Tangrowth]

Hey Quin. What's on your mind?

[Kylemii]

is there any outside reason why choutas behavior might be different here?

What do you mean by outside reason?

like for example if he just got accepted to art school and now he's spending most of his time chisleing marble blocks into statues, thusly decreasing his daily mafia rations

[Marmot]

Quin gets two townreads?

I get a townreads for making lap look good?


Lol what is that rainbow even [mention]wolbre04[/mention]?

[Quin]

biggest thing to stick out at me about choutas is that he complained about there not being much happening in the game and proceeded to not do anything about it

[VOTE: choutas] aubergine

[Tangrowth]

is there any outside reason why choutas behavior might be different here?

What do you mean by outside reason?

like for example if he just got accepted to art school and now he's spending most of his time chisleing marble blocks into statues, thusly decreasing his daily mafia rations

Oh! Duh, you mean outside like IRL. Not sure how I didn't get that.

Good question. I'm not sure why that would prevent his content from being on-topic, but I suppose it could prevent him from being here more often.

[Quin]

Hey Quin. What's on your mind?

um. that^

[Tangrowth]

Hey Quin. What's on your mind?

um. that^

So you suspect Choutas and Jay, correct? Any other reads?

[lapluie]

No one wants to join me on Elo? Bummer.

Eloh is good at lying so it's hard to tell if she's good or bad tbh

She is? She's below the Mendoza Line.

She was pretty good at fooling me at your game I first played in

[Quin]

Hey Quin. What's on your mind?

um. that^

So you suspect Choutas and Jay, correct? Any other reads?

lapluie is good and i demand she be moved to the top of everyone's rainbow lists permanently

also i don't feel like explaining myself

[Tangrowth]

Hey Quin. What's on your mind?

um. that^

So you suspect Choutas and Jay, correct? Any other reads?

lapluie is good and i demand she be moved to the top of everyone's rainbow lists permanently

also i don't feel like explaining myself

[Dyslexicon]

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Maybe I used policy lynch incorrectly there, but it sounds like you're saying we should lynch people who haven't contributed at all as a Day 1 rule, Charlie.

Benefits would be not losing voices in a game that's having a tough time taking off and also, of course, there's nothing stopping a scum from just lurking at this point. Especially at this point, maybe.

What are your reads, hopes and dreams? At this point in the game you're reading more like a side commentator to me. And I've seen scum act that way before. I'm pointing fingers at you.

Um. Wow.

I play center field. I'm not a pitcher. And even if I was a pitcher, Nolan Arenado is on my team, so I wouldn't be pitching to him.

I'm more of a catcher myself.

You deny that we both have to be bad, which contradicts the first line. But I believe you meant the first line, so that would make this a lie.

Or it makes it uncertainty. I have no idea how this argument even started and I can't grasp what it's about and why you're so passionate about it. All the shrugs sent your way.

It's true I'm not in hardcore scum hunting mode yet, I'll give you that. I'm working my way there. Doesn't mean I'm mafia. If anything, whenever I'm mafia I always feel pressured to force that much earlier on. Instead I think my ISO displays that I'm trying to let it happen organically. I have nothing to hide.

I kind of want to eat this for supper and call you town for it. Call me stupid.

Marmot, I actually trust you right now more than anyone. You got any other juicy content to throw my way? Let's work through this.

Why though?

I could be tinfoiling, but if one actually looks at Jay's behavior this game, what has he done? Just turned on people that suspect him and automatically declare them as fake, without any real investigative work.

Tell me what you think.

I see the concerns. It reads as staccato and low-fi. But not sure it reads as scum.

Unless everyone votig for JJJ right now is town and we’ve just solved the game lol

But nah.

Everyone who voted Jimmey could be town, and he could be town as well. If they/we are not, which one is scum? You say that you don't want the wagon, but who is a bad seed there and why and what wagon would you like is what I'm thinking about when I'm reading your posts and stuff.

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Makes two nothing posts then hitches a ride on a wagon that threatens to mislynch the loudest civilian voice.

No.

We've been scum together, so you've seen my scum play, and this here is not it : p
I wanted to join a wagon, and especially your's since I love you so much, and then you could all gossip about it. You should know this. Don't you think you should know this?

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Wolbre feels different than last game, so town?

I don't find a reason to trust this hiding Epi. Would lynch. Meow.

[Tangrowth]

Dizzy, to answer your question re: Marmot, he's in serious mode more quickly than normal and seems to be genuinely moving the game forward. I'm not sure he's still my top read but I still think he's town.

For now.

[Tangrowth]

Re: your other content:

1) Your observation about Colin is a compelling one; it would be nice if he could throw down a reads list or elaborate some more on his current thoughts.

2) You're town, aren't you?

[Tangrowth]

*crickets*

It's D1 EoD. Come on, people.

[Kylemii]

I still have a heavy day load so please bear with it another time guys.

if there's any documented reason for why choutas would be less active this game it's this

[Tangrowth]

Kyle, what are your reads at the moment?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

We've been scum together, so you've seen my scum play, and this here is not it : p
I wanted to join a wagon, and especially your's since I love you so much, and then you could all gossip about it. You should know this. Don't you think you should know this?

I may or may not know things. You have to explain your own stuff though, not me.

[Tangrowth]

Jay, are you here until EoD?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still have a heavy day load so please bear with it another time guys.

if there's any documented reason for why choutas would be less active this game it's this

Who would you like to murder, Syndicate user Kylemii?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay, are you here until EoD?

More or less. I'm also watching the Cavs game.

[Kylemii]

I use chrome maybe its a settings issue.
Anyhow lets get to business.

I use chrome maybe its a settings issue.
Anyhow lets get to business.

Cool. What do you think of rabbits?

Also, the game

Theyre cute but they make terrible meat so a no for me.
The game has started in a mild manner we need to stir things up. Force people to read others.

As for Day one Mac i think hes right into the role.

choutas puts forth calls to action to get to business and stir things up but then didn't actually do it at all

[ColinIsCool]

Okay, so reads:

JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.

I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.

Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.

Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.

[ColinIsCool]

Sorry, just got back from gym and eating dinner so my abilities are a little dampered right now.

[Tangrowth]

Jay, are you here until EoD?

More or less. I'm also watching the Cavs game.

Cool. Go Celtics.

[Kylemii]

Hopefully I'll be able to post in some hours.
Work related problems arose and a million things to do today aside work.
Just try to cope with my absence and if it gets worse I'll politely ask to be replaced.

choutas had work shit early game greece as well, not the factor.

[Dyslexicon]

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Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.

Colini's posts reads like a scum player who wants to lynch the town player who deserves it the most.
^Someone talk to me about this.

Dylexcicon only has 3 posts (?) & their recent one was voting jimmy, so Im confused, but is that the reason why they have votes

Just curious - why do you feel it's ok to vote Floyd over no posts, but not me over 3 posts?

I hate Dizzy's vote. Why should I not hate Dizzy's vote?

It made my wagon 4-strong, and nobody else had more than 2 (not even sure there was a 2).

Actually, I think I was the third vote, but that is totally irrelevant. Why are you blantantly ignoring all of these things 1) this is not how I play as scum, 2) I said I would catch up later (and pretty sure I implied I hadn't read the game yet, which I hadn't (so why the "omg I'm the highest poster voe is me"?))

Gurl. I just do stuff. This game I wasn't really prepared for it to start. And then I almost forgot about it (which would've made my vote stay on you and all the lols etc). But the least I can do is jump a wagon and hope it creates some kind of waves (wan't even hopeful of it, since many players here know me). I'm very surprised to see you react this way to it though. I really don't get it. What's up with you this game?

I have a rainbow, and here's what it looks like.


ColinIsCool
novaselinenever
Scotty

Charlie Blackmon
Choutas
Elohcin
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Quin
TheFloyd73
wolbre04

Dyslexicon
lapluie
M Plus 7

Not long ago you gave me a pass for saying I would catch up later, and you didn't seem bothered by me. Now Jimmeeey is throwing poop at me and I'm orange to you. Give me your thought process please.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm out of time, and will have to speed read to make a meaningful vote.

[Tangrowth]

Okay, so reads:

JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.

I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.

Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.

Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.

Colin, if you don't mind, can you try elaborating on a few of these? Like, specifically what is similar about Epi's game here, and different about Scotty?

[ColinIsCool]

What do you mean “deserves it the most”?

[Dyslexicon]

In the absence of a rock solid case, I think it's generally a bad idea to lynch an active contributor on Day 1 who can eventually reveal themselves sufficiently for POE purposes.

I don't know about this burnout thing, man. Did you stop to think that I might become a high contributer that can eventually clear myself when I actually get in here and starts playing? We've been throught stuff. We've seen the world. Have you forgotten it all? I need couple's therapy with you.

[Marmot]

Sorry, just got back from gym and eating dinner so my abilities are a little dampered right now.

I want to see your full potential Colin. Let nothing hold you back!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Actually, I think I was the third vote, but that is totally irrelevant. Why are you blantantly ignoring all of these things 1) this is not how I play as scum, 2) I said I would catch up later (and pretty sure I implied I hadn't read the game yet, which I hadn't (so why the "omg I'm the highest poster voe is me"?))

Gurl. I just do stuff. This game I wasn't really prepared for it to start. And then I almost forgot about it (which would've made my vote stay on you and all the lols etc). But the least I can do is jump a wagon and hope it creates some kind of waves (wan't even hopeful of it, since many players here know me). I'm very surprised to see you react this way to it though. I really don't get it. What's up with you this game?

This is behavior that doesn't inherently indicate Dizzy is a mafioso, but I'm not going to give you civilian credit for it. It's easily replicated either way, and an off-hand unexplained vote for the only real wagon presently in existence is at face value ugly.

There's also a very similar question I could be asking you: there's an obvious reason why I have screamed and yelled at/about you which you have not acknowledged. Why does a civilian JJJ do that?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In the absence of a rock solid case, I think it's generally a bad idea to lynch an active contributor on Day 1 who can eventually reveal themselves sufficiently for POE purposes.

I don't know about this burnout thing, man. Did you stop to think that I might become a high contributer that can eventually clear myself when I actually get in here and starts playing? We've been throught stuff. We've seen the world. Have you forgotten it all? I need couple's therapy with you.

Am I lynching you right now?

[Dyslexicon]

What do you mean “deserves it the most”?

Being anti-town, not doing their job. Like, you're looking for town who can be reasonably blamed for getting lynched rather than looking for scum. Are you? ARE YOU???

[Tangrowth]

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Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.

Colini's posts reads like a scum player who wants to lynch the town player who deserves it the most.
^Someone talk to me about this.

You mean like Colin is going after low hanging fruit, easy suspects? Yeah, I could see that. His reads are probably the "easiest"; i.e., his town reads are active and his mafia reads are relatively inactive or acting weird.

[Dyslexicon]

Jimmeeey, we can kiss later.

[ColinIsCool]

Okay, so reads:

JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.

I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.

Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.

Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.

Colin, if you don't mind, can you try elaborating on a few of these? Like, specifically what is similar about Epi's game here, and different about Scotty?

Epi is always playful but asks really good questions, puts the conversation in different directions, makes contributions that are hard to fake. No idea what his scum game looks like, mind you, but I’ve observed the town one enough by now.

Scotty, I dunno, it’s a tone thing. I remember him in AG being silly (well, drunk) but then as time went by he seemed, from my perspective as a scum, to be a big player in the thread and someone I was wary of for a minute (until I died...) And here I’m not feeling the same way. It’s hard to articulate and maybe I could provide examples but it’s more like looking at the performance in the games together.

[Marmot]

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] I saw nothing that looked town from you and your vote was poop.

I just said I wouldn't vote for you since you promised to be back before deadline.