Easter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Kylemii]

do it

[JaggedJimmyJay]

tell me who to iso

Colin and Scotty

[Marmot]

Kylllllle

isooóóó Elohcin pls

[Dyslexicon]

Elo is notoriously difficult to read because she routinely says weird things. I think she's probably bad because she isn't really doing anything.

Alright, thanks. I seem to remember her doing even less this other time I played with her, and she was town then. But then I think it was more of a case of just falling behind. She seems caught up and aware, but just threw in a couple of unexplained reads and meh. Not much to go on, and wouldn't hesitate to vote.

[Kylemii]

tell me who to iso

Colin and Scotty

with focus on what aspects

[Kylemii]

Colin
Scotty
Eloh
Marmot

who else

[ColinIsCool]

Theres nothing to hide in day 1 other than me voting for an inactive.
Im not pointing fingers because I have no teammates, if you've seen me as a mafia in another game with quin & nutella who were also mafia youd know I definitely tried to buss out my teammate.
but thanks for sharing your opinions

Maybe I’m tunneling a bit, but the thing is, I’m not gonna know until I see more. So the ball’s in your ... diamond

[JaggedJimmyJay]

tell me who to iso

Colin and Scotty

with focus on what aspects

Don't focus on aspects. Just read the posts and interpret them however you may given whatever perceptions you have of the game.

[ColinIsCool]

Colin
Scotty
Eloh
Marmot

who else

Lapluie

[Dyslexicon]

We play weird?

Actually, I wonder if it's a case of the general vibe being a bit more chill and not so emotionally charged. I've gotten used to a lot of all caps stuff on PerC, where players can get a bit passionate. : p

[Kylemii]

nnnnnnnnn okay

[Dyslexicon]

MP Rainbow #4 - POE Version - Day 2

Do NOT Lynch:
Dyslexicon
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
Scotty

Maybe do not lynch:
ColinIsCool
Marmot
wolbre04

Ehhhh....:
Quin
TheFloyd73

OK to Lynch:
Charlienosis
Elohcin

Talk about Quin and the decline in the rainbow, plzzzz

[Dyslexicon]

He wifomised my night kill analysis. "Because nova made no explicit reads, I think the nova kill was a smart kill which doesn't reflect badly on anybody" got turned into "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz". Fuck that.

"More or less silly reasons" is just the icing on the cake.

Gurl. Obviously I was not directly quoting you. What I say are things that is crossing my mind and my own interpretations, so they can't really be "wrong". You were the only one that in my mind had expressed that the kill was not weird or doubty. The reason this was on my mind is that subtle or outright bashing of mafia or town play can reveal mindset slips. Kind of related to the "town has good powers this game" <-- stuff mafia says more than town. Is this thought process unclear or what exactly makes me super scumz from that?

[Epignosis]

Day 2

I honestly think that kill is a decent look for any player who is known to play with any semblance of strategy and doesn't engage in foolery. MP and Charlie Baseball come to mind first.

My instict is to wifom a bit extra about strong players or players who I would think could be a goon target, like you and Quin. Which one here is not strong at strategy or not paying attention to the point of just lol let's kill Nova who nobody really has a town read on? Doesn't leave many imo.

While I'm at it, I'm going to lay this out there:

I am a professional baseball player. I play 160+ games a year and have spring training and everything else. I'm on the road a lot.

You will get commentary from me when you get it. I'm so tired of hearing that I'm doing nothing or that I'm quiet. You'll get commentary from me I have the time to deliver it. If you don't like that, oh well.

Yeah, I don't have the time for this.

[VOTE: Charlie ] aubergine

wolbre04 should be go next. I'm surprised this JaggedJimmyJay guy didn't comment on what I had to say about him, and instead said I had done nothing.

You played in ass class as well, right?

I thought you of all people should have understood me.

It's true the suspect I was thinking of was Japanese, not Iranian.

Thank you so much for the game, Quin!

And congrats, mafia!
Thanks for killing me first. <3

Thanks for being town, Jimmeeey. That was kind of the most important thing for me after I died. : p

Novas wagon and Avitos are both acceptable to me I guess
I really haven't seen Avito appear much, so I'll boot the wagon forward a bit and [VOTE: Avito] aubergine
No voters hopefully show up (is pennywise even here still)?

Has your opinion on Dyslexicon changed any?

I still think maybe she knew something about Juliets potentially and JJJ agreed that it Juls post seemed fishy so I'm willing to vote her as well. I'll be here over the next few hours and will change my vote willingly if anyone can give me some good reasoning

Seeing how you were removed first, and wolbre04 was of the team to remove you, and he acted like he didn't know you were removed, and he made it to the end on the basis of that ruse, I pointed out this:

Here's My Reads list, I'll try to provide a small quip next to each one (just in the order i saw them)
Order of the Manboob
Wolbre04 - lord and savior
JJJ - t/t argument with MP7, me and Lilefer have a similar way of playing as t/t against each other
Charlie Black Man


Knights of the Nipple

Kyle
Lapluie - compared to a previous civ game, u look good
Colin
Quin
Nova - fine except that JJJ vote
MP7 - Argument with Jay seems t/t
Marmot/Mac - got us info that makes laplui look pretty good
Quin

Choutas
Dizzy - dont like your vote on JJJ
Scotty - always wants me dead
Choutas - Who is she

Sekiy
Elohcin
Floyd - Who is she

really exhausted tbh, ima get some sleep, cya guys later

nvm i was thinking of Epi playing in Upick not easter. His posts are all about baseball lemme fix my reads list

I don't believe this was an honest mistake.

And what don't you have time for? Having patience with me?

[Dyslexicon]

i dislike it from the "no but" moment. deciding the only reason for that post was to deny the common assumption.

What do you mean by this?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

I don't believe this was an honest mistake.

And what don't you have time for? Having patience with me?

I didn't follow last game after I died. : p

Can you explain your thought process about the mistake and why it makes Wolbre scum like I'm 5 years old?
My biggest beef with Wolbre is the lack of scum hunting, and seeming just a bit irritated (if mafia, maybe because they're down in numbers, speculation speculation).

For baseball.

[Epignosis]

Nice kill choice Jay.

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

That's more like an MP pitch.

Lol, a sample size of one burglary and you say it's characteristic of me.

Sample size?

I can live with that. Killing off two inactives- well done.

Who wants to win a game that's handed to you? Not this guy.

I know a lot about sample sizes. That comment there has nothing to do with sample sizes.

[Epignosis]

I don't believe this was an honest mistake.

And what don't you have time for? Having patience with me?

I didn't follow last game after I died. : p

Can you explain your thought process about the mistake and why it makes Wolbre scum like I'm 5 years old?
My biggest beef with Wolbre is the lack of scum hunting, and seeming just a bit irritated (if mafia, maybe because they're down in numbers, speculation speculation).

For baseball.

He pretended like he didn't know you were out.

Here, he "confused" one game with another with his initial treatment of me.

I don't buy it.

[Epignosis]

You get to make one of those moves once. Once it's successful, you don't get to make mistakes again. It's like pretending you threw the ball back to the pitcher when in reality, you held on to it to get get the guy at first base out.

I'm the guy at first base.

[Dyslexicon]

He pretended like he didn't know you were out.

Here, he "confused" one game with another with his initial treatment of me.

I don't buy it.

What would be the scum benefit of the mistake in this game?

I've been considering Wolbre more in my mind lately. I guess I'm not opposed to flipping him.

Also, you're probably town, cause feels and stuff.

[Dyslexicon]

You get to make one of those moves once. Once it's successful, you don't get to make mistakes again. It's like pretending you threw the ball back to the pitcher when in reality, you held on to it to get get the guy at first base out.

I'm the guy at first base.

But I don't see the similarities between the mistakes.

[Epignosis]

Hello. I'm Charlie Blackmon, center fielder for the Colorado Rockies. I'm pinch hitting for Epignosis. So I hear there's an Easter egg hunt around here or something. I'm interested in hunting.

It’s good to know you’re interested, because I wouldn’t have known. Do you need a pinch hitter?

There are nine people on my team. I don't bat out of order. When it's my turn to bat, I go. That's just how it works, man.

[Epignosis]

You get to make one of those moves once. Once it's successful, you don't get to make mistakes again. It's like pretending you threw the ball back to the pitcher when in reality, you held on to it to get get the guy at first base out.

I'm the guy at first base.

But I don't see the similarities between the mistakes.

"Mistakes."

One was not a mistake.

I am calling the other also not a mistake.

[Epignosis]

What would be the scum benefit of the mistake in this game?

[Dyslexicon]

"Mistakes."

One was not a mistake.

I am calling the other also not a mistake.

Yeah, I get that. But one is an obvious ploy for mafia. "Oh, I didn't know this player was NKed, so I clearly can't be scumz you guyyeezz". But the other one I don't really see any point to. Why would he need to pretend to mix up games to form a read on you?

[Dyslexicon]

Am I being dumb? Quite possible. : p

[Dyslexicon]

I need to sleep, and I want to change my vote, but don't know where to put it, so I'm going to sheep Jimmeeeey and do the Wolbre wagon.

[VOTE: Wolbre] aubergine

[Epignosis]

- Charlienosis emphasizes he's interested in hunting, but he's not really doing it, and his half-assed statements about me and otherwise are uninspiring. Elo similarly isn't doing anything and she needs to feel some serious pressure.

"His half-assed statements about me and otherwise are uninspiring."

Good to know.

[Epignosis]

I miss Epignosis already. This song reminded me of him.

Spoiler: show

That's great. Not as a great as this one though:

Spoiler: show

[Tangrowth]

MP Rainbow #4 - POE Version - Day 2

Do NOT Lynch:
Dyslexicon
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
Scotty

Maybe do not lynch:
ColinIsCool
Marmot
wolbre04

Ehhhh....:
Quin
TheFloyd73

OK to Lynch:
Charlienosis
Elohcin

Talk about Quin and the decline in the rainbow, plzzzz

He just hasn't really done anything other than: argue with Jay, vote for Choutas with no accompaniment, and that's almost it. Could be a bus vote.

[Tangrowth]

Nice kill choice Jay.

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

That's more like an MP pitch.

Lol, a sample size of one burglary and you say it's characteristic of me.

Sample size?

I can live with that. Killing off two inactives- well done.

Who wants to win a game that's handed to you? Not this guy.

I know a lot about sample sizes. That comment there has nothing to do with sample sizes.

Either I'm being dense or your point is unclear. What's your point exactly?

[Tangrowth]

- Charlienosis emphasizes he's interested in hunting, but he's not really doing it, and his half-assed statements about me and otherwise are uninspiring. Elo similarly isn't doing anything and she needs to feel some serious pressure.

"His half-assed statements about me and otherwise are uninspiring."

Good to know.

I didn't mean to offend; I just am not understanding where your head is at this game, to say the least.

[Dyslexicon]

He just hasn't really done anything other than: argue with Jay, vote for Choutas with no accompaniment, and that's almost it. Could be a bus vote.

He hadn't when you had him in the green either though, right?
This is probably hypocritical of me, cause I think I kind of wrote him off as town, and then I've been like mmmm, but he's still probably just town. He's doing pointy fingers rah rah at me now though. He should do other things.

[Tangrowth]

He just hasn't really done anything other than: argue with Jay, vote for Choutas with no accompaniment, and that's almost it. Could be a bus vote.

He hadn't when you had him in the green either though, right?
This is probably hypocritical of me, cause I think I kind of wrote him off as town, and then I've been like mmmm, but he's still probably just town. He's doing pointy fingers rah rah at me now though. He should do other things.

Yeah, I mean, maybe you're right. I'm at a bit of a loss as to whether we have a likely more active or less active scum team right now. I'm leaning the former, but trying to assess each person individually.

Plus, when I had him green earlier, a lot less time had passed. Also, I keep changing my mind.

[Epignosis]

Nice kill choice Jay.

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

That's more like an MP pitch.

Lol, a sample size of one burglary and you say it's characteristic of me.

Sample size?

I can live with that. Killing off two inactives- well done.

Who wants to win a game that's handed to you? Not this guy.

I know a lot about sample sizes. That comment there has nothing to do with sample sizes.

Either I'm being dense or your point is unclear. What's your point exactly?

You said that about yourself. That has nothing to do with sample sizes.

[Tangrowth]

Nice kill choice Jay.

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

That's more like an MP pitch.

Lol, a sample size of one burglary and you say it's characteristic of me.

Sample size?

I can live with that. Killing off two inactives- well done.

Who wants to win a game that's handed to you? Not this guy.

I know a lot about sample sizes. That comment there has nothing to do with sample sizes.

Either I'm being dense or your point is unclear. What's your point exactly?

You said that about yourself. That has nothing to do with sample sizes.

Okay. What's your point still? You think I executed the kill because I dislike easy wins?

[Epignosis]

You'd make that goofy-ass kill, Marmot.

That's more like an MP pitch.

Lol, a sample size of one burglary and you say it's characteristic of me.

Sample size?

I can live with that. Killing off two inactives- well done.

Who wants to win a game that's handed to you? Not this guy.

I know a lot about sample sizes. That comment there has nothing to do with sample sizes.

Either I'm being dense or your point is unclear. What's your point exactly?

You said that about yourself. That has nothing to do with sample sizes.

Okay. What's your point still? You think I executed the kill because I dislike easy wins?

You're a quick one. I bet you've stolen a few bases in your time.

[Tangrowth]

LOL, sorry. My brain is malfunctioning or something. I blame the baseball metaphors.

[lapluie]

Theres nothing to hide in day 1 other than me voting for an inactive.
Im not pointing fingers because I have no teammates, if you've seen me as a mafia in another game with quin & nutella who were also mafia youd know I definitely tried to buss out my teammate.
but thanks for sharing your opinions

Maybe I’m tunneling a bit, but the thing is, I’m not gonna know until I see more. So the ball’s in your ... diamond

Ok pal

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

[wolbre04]

It's fun waking up to 4 votes on myself and dropping like the New Years ball in 1/3 of the rainbows here.
Should I bother trying to defend myself? I can try.

[lapluie]

It's fun waking up to 4 votes on myself and dropping like the New Years ball in 1/3 of the rainbows here.
Should I bother trying to defend myself? I can try.

wow! Whyd you change your vote?? are you not suspicious anymore of marmot or what

[wolbre04]

It's fun waking up to 4 votes on myself and dropping like the New Years ball in 1/3 of the rainbows here.
Should I bother trying to defend myself? I can try.

wow! Whyd you change your vote?? are you not suspicious anymore of marmot or what

I like him more than Eloh. Randomly comes in and makes it seem like I put words in her mouth when I referenced her implying I'm scum
Also she just left wth
[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

[wolbre04]

Here's My GTH Reads of what we have left
ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Elohcin
Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
M Plus 7
Marmot (Replaced MacDougall)
novaselinenever
Quin
Scotty
TheFloyd73

I think Marmot or Eloh are better alternatives to me. Why you may ask? I'll post why in a sec

[wolbre04]

That's if I have to pick 2 scum ^^^^^

[wolbre04]

Why is Eloh Scum?

well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?

I personally feel like the idea of a poll like this is generally mafia sided, because early votes cannot be taken back. Maybe it's just me though. My point is, shit happens late in the poll, why a lock vote especially if ppl may not be around for later (so they could still withhold their vote)

well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?

What specifically is not genuine?

Kylemii, what is your concrete, developed, prepared read on me right now?

i don't have that yet. my gth read on you is civ though, based on the fact that mafia jay is more content to let a dead thread sleep, and you've done the opposite of that.

Is this canon?

It should be cuz he right

@JaggedJimmyJay do you feel like this attitude has been represented here? why or why not?

I don’t have time to play two games largely on my phone. I’m also well beyond tired of this game.

So no, I haven’t made a great effort to move this thread if that’s your question.

The game just started.

For sake of this we will run with JJJ still being town, but I would understand that he can get tired of one game and it affects another. He was frustrated a lot in ass class until a few of us tried to gamesolve and I just flat out lied my way through the whole thing, and he came out inspired - until flips. Idk if I can remotely even say this feels fake

The game just started.

I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.

I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.

Put this and the last one together. Should we feel comfortable then assuming you are acting "forced" or "not genuine" if the accuser and the accused are feeling similar?

Good job guys! As I was reading through what was going on, I would have changed to Chou if I were here EoD. But alas, I was hanging out with the family.

I will try to be more active. My heart's just not in it.

Charlie Blackmon can keep your heart. I'll take a read or two instead.

I think you, jay, and dyslexicon seem trustworthy.

I found a colorized image of this. Make up your mind sister

Spoiler: show

Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?

Sup

We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova

I think you did this

False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming

Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.

I think realistically the implication that I'm a mafia in your mind can warrant me interpreting that as "scheming", that's what mafia does, after all. WHY do you think I killed Nova? In Ass Class I wasn't the one who picked NKs for scum and many of them looked terrible for me when they flipped town. If I got to pick who killed, or even influence it by being on the scum team, I would not pick someone that implicates me. I nearly got lynched in Ass Class before Mac helped save me by casting blame elsewhere.

In reference to Floyd, in all honesty he's probably town. Why do you think he's scum and why am I scum. This is the million dollar question for Eloh, folks. I feel like a lot of these opinions have ZERO substance to them and are just sheepie

[wolbre04]

Why is Marmot Scum?

Aw crap I got a mafia rolecard.

You heard it here first folks
But anyways...

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

After browsing through his ISO, he's exhibiting behavior that I exhibit when I'm mafia. Nearly all of his posts are short. Many of them are uninspiring questions, including the following.

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: WOLBRE04] aubergine

?

Just hoping you'd show. What's up?

well, at least that was a quick catch up. I agree this game is less serious than usual at the moment. There are a lot of votes being thrown around. I personally like votes that are not changeable only because it forces players to think more about who they are voting for. There are no "pressure votes" and what not. As of right now, I can see why JJJ has the most votes (even though it's only 2). His excuses for not carrying the thread don't feel genuine. He is participating enough in another game he is in. I may vote that way but first I would like to hear from others more. I don't like to just throw votes around. Who here is born again?

What specifically is not genuine?

ColinIsCool
Kylemii
M Plus 7
novaselinenever
Scotty

Dyslexicon
TheFloyd73

wolbre04
Quin
MacDougall
lapluie
Elohcin
Choutas

I think the green reads are generally agreeable or understandable, but can you explain Nova and Scotty at all?

What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?

The game just started.

I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.

I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.

Why?

I see that Elohcin gave a long explanation, in response to the last question, but I see a lot of soft pressing without any follow-through. No hardcore scumhunting, just going through the motions.

This guy is mafia.

Scum read of MP7, save for later

First instinct is to ask whoever jumped Choutas wagon [including Marmot] super late, why?

eeeeeeeee

I have a rainbow, and here's what it looks like.


ColinIsCool
novaselinenever
Scotty

Charlie Blackmon
Choutas
Elohcin
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Quin
TheFloyd73
wolbre04

Dyslexicon
lapluie
M Plus 7

Why ru voting for me if im not in your bottom 3
also the original "lapluie is scum but shes playing the same as one of her civ games" does not make any sense to me

Also I may not play by the standard meta, but I do believe and strive to make useful and informed votes.

We are vastly different players, but if you are willing to vote Croutons bc "He's prolly gonna get lynched anyways so why does it matter" then this statement is put into question

Thinking more about wolbre's rainbow where he listed Choutas twice: Would a teammate do that?

I have to ask - why? Quin also appears twice and it was just an error in copypasting names over. I don't understand how there could be any degree of correlation between Me listing croutons and queen twice ergo them being on a team with me when coitus flips rabbit

The thing about the Choutas one is that you listed two very different thoughts. In one you described his meta. In the other, you asked who she was. I just don't understand how you can thinking both of these things about the same person, because thinking one of them doesn't suggest you'd also be thinking the other one.

I also don't understand the Mariah Karie reference so

If you are scumreading me bc you don't get the reference even after I explained it I'll sob on camera for you

Since Choutas was never here at the EoD, I find it less likely that someone who pushed his wagon was bussing him, because he wasn't around to talk about it.



Wolbre's vote was so early on that I don't find it to be town-supporting evidence.

Quin, Kyle, and Jay all built the wagon into a lead. I don't believe any of them bussed Choutas.

MP and I voted last second. I know my alignment, and I've stated my thoughts on MP already.

Lol you would think that, since you were one of the last people to vote him

like you never even talked about wolbre at all before then.

Did you read the rest of my post? I was talking about the people who pushed his wagon: Quin, Kyle, and Jay, not the rest of the folks voting for him.

No. It's something I'd do as a mafia member to a teammate, and it's something I do all the time as a civilian too. NAI

Looking back, wolbre did come back into the thread when Choutas had 2 votes about 2 hours before deadline. He had a chance to move his vote elsewhere before the wagon really got going and he didn't. I do think that's a favorable look for him.

If you find it unlikely he was bussed then
whyvoteme.jpeg and whyscumreadme.avi

Here's my current rainbow. All tiers are ordered alphabetically.


ColinIsCool
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Elohcin
Quin
Scotty
TheFloyd73
Charlie Blackmon
Dyslexicon
lapluie
wolbre04
M Plus 7

I intentionally put everyone in a non-neutral read tier (with the exception of Floyd), with the attempt of taking a stance on every player, and treating as a GTH sort of rainbow.

How did I end up going lower after the previous quoted comments

Marmot and Black Man I don't like bc they seem to be pulling the idea of me as scum outta their asses. But marmot is marmot and I like him more bc he trolls and is fun with it

I don't have a strong scumread of you. Heck, I even found a good reason to believe that you aren't scum, and that's the strongest reason I have on you of either alignment.

The reason I listed you as orange in my rainbow is because of my gut. You feel different this game than in Ancient Greece. Your reaction to suspicion here is infused with incredulity that I don't recall seeing there, and I don't think the pressure being put on you is even that severe.

why am i still so low ;-;

Interesting kill choice. Any of the players I don't know new to mafia?

Sup

We are still good with 12 - 2 and we lost a vanilla. Sorry you died of diabeetus from the rabbit candy nova

I think you did this

False
Why do you have any reason to believe I've been scheming

Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you were scheming. I said I think you put in the kill. And I think your teammates with Floyd.

I don't think scheming is an exaggeration from your accusation.

Also, why Floyd?

I actually like this post. God bless you young man
it backs up what i said about eloh

I like you more than Eloh, and if she flips scum I'll like you even more bc of the last comment

[wolbre04]

Enjoy the wall of text, sorry
Gn girlies
Take what I said or leave it, if I get lynched, well, I'll just roll my eyes because I tried to do something useful

[wolbre04]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]
See above posts as you're the only 2 i can forsee taking votes off me