Easter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[ColinIsCool]

I should really be asleep by now but I suddenly got this nagging hunch that wolves is lapluie and marmot. Idk, was thinking about some possible permutations and this one seemed to click, but I haven't looked into much to flesh it out so it's just a hunch.

Linki ok yeah sounds good lol [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

And y’all are gonna call my thought processes hard to follow?

I didn't

Sorry, I meant the royal “y’all,” others in the thread.

[nutella]

Poe:

if they are bad I will personally eat G-Man's dictionary:
Scotty
Epi Blackballs

Would need to seriously re-evaluate in order to not see as town:
Quin
Leaning town:
Colin
Who the hell knows:
Marmot
Tinfoil Zone:
JaggedJimmyJay
Dyslexicon
Leaning bad:
Lapluie

I might read Colin's iso next to see if I can see what others see. My gut says town on him but I don't have a lot to back that up. Dys probably next after that. I could also be wrong about lap, which scares me because that leaves a lot of possibilities.

[nutella]

I’m just realizing how brilliant Marmot’s D1 tradition is. There is no expectation of him ever making a real stance this phase as town and it carries over into his scum game easily, freeing him of most things a scum might get trapped in that early. I’m not making a read here, just, kudos.

K Colin/marmot prolly not w/w

[nutella]

Finished Colin's iso and he still looks pretty good to me. He remains a poe possibility but I'd be surprised.

Gonna start isoing dys but I'm just reading sporadically while working so it'll take a while.

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: MARMOT] aubergine

Hopefully he gets in the thread sometime this phase though.

[Scotty]

Will read and respond more thru day but for now [VOTE: colin] aubergine

[ColinIsCool]

I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

I read you as civilian. Unless they’re sitting on their hands and not broadcasting suspicions, almost everybody else in the game seems to be reading you as civilian too — are they going to get lynched for that?

[Scotty]

Ok the last few pages as I’m reading them is a big ole oscillation of reads, and I see it started by Epi coming out swinging. He’s seems like he’s flailing looking for more suspects

I feel like Nutella is all over the place but I read her as town as fuck so far and even though it’s probanly confusing the town the more her reads change on a dime, I’m calling her as mucho town read.

JJJ lasting long into the game is something that I remember irked me subconsciously in Ass class, when he was unbelievably town, yet I was convinced he was bad even after the game ended. The difference here is that if he was bad, he would have totally thrown someone under the bus seemingly out of left field so the options here are 1) he spidey sensed that shit D1 or 2) he did something he confesses he would never do as mafia D1 and has been pulling back afterwards deliberately. I’m in the summer camp of divine JJJ who’s just been off his mark the pet few days.

[Scotty]

Killing Mp was a fucky kill but you know I’m done trying to read these kills. Mp was in like half the town’s lynch pool so whatever. Apparently it’s doing the job tho because y’all seem to be more confused than a cabbage in a beanie baby collection. My number 2 suspects are currently Colin and combo of Epi/Quin. Will expand.

I’d say that Mp was on to someone, and will take a look at his reads yesterday, but I could have said the same thing about nova and all nova cared about was wolbre, and we all know how that turned out. Worth a look tho

[Scotty]

@nutella what if you're Quin's teammate tho??? So??? ima vote you

I don’t think so

[Scotty]

I want everyone to reflect on why JJJ is automatically a ninth inning at-bat. Go.

He’s not, but I’d trust him to pinch hit over you

[Scotty]

I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Would you vote Colin to save yourself?
Who is your biggest town read right now?

[ColinIsCool]

I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Would you vote Colin to save yourself?
Who is your biggest town read right now?

Regardless of alignment, in 98% of all cases, wouldn’t you vote anybody to save yourself?

[Scotty]

nutella took every post I made and never considered a good-guy context for any of them. She's cementing rather than evaluating (but apparently, that's what lapluie does too, so what do I know?).

False.

I read your ISO and only quoted a few posts that looked suspicious. That doesn't mean I'm not considering a good-guy context for you. It means I am doing so silently while watching how you react to my prods. But since you must know, yes, I am considering your ISO from a civilian angle. What I chose to post may look like confirmation bias but it does not fully represent my thought process. Everything in due time, Mister B.

This is too much. Anybody with eyeballs should be able to tell I'm not a threat to anybody.

Get real.

“Not a thread to anybody” is a lazy conclusion and I dont actually understand why you said this. You haven’t really been a beacon of light for the town, so yeah, you’re definitely not a threat to anyone. Or perhaps that’s your play this game

[nutella]

K Dys could be bad

[nutella]

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention], you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

[Scotty]

I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

Do you think either of nut’s or Epi’s votes look disengenuous to you?

[Scotty]

I should really be asleep by now but I suddenly got this nagging hunch that wolves is lapluie and marmot. Idk, was thinking about some possible permutations and this one seemed to click, but I haven't looked into much to flesh it out so it's just a hunch.

Linki ok yeah sounds good lol [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

lol I just forgot about marmot, and I voted him yesterday.

I see too many possibilities for baddie combinations and it’s pissing me off.

I just wanna lynch Colin because he’s the one that reads safest to me, and when I look at tinfoil combos, he is one I can see fitting a multitude of them,

I can see Marmot as bad, and I’m curious how he is going to respond to almost being lynched while afk this weekend. But this is still based on his vote D1. The longer this game goes on with mislynches, the more I want to vote for someone that’s leading the witnesses, if you will.

[Scotty]

I’m just realizing how brilliant Marmot’s D1 tradition is. There is no expectation of him ever making a real stance this phase as town and it carries over into his scum game easily, freeing him of most things a scum might get trapped in that early. I’m not making a read here, just, kudos.

K Colin/marmot prolly not w/w

This proves nothing

[Scotty]

K Dys could be bad

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m finally home, and tonight I’ll be able to give more than 8% effort.

[Scotty]

I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Would you vote Colin to save yourself?
Who is your biggest town read right now?

Regardless of alignment, in 98% of all cases, wouldn’t you vote anybody to save yourself?

I guess a majority of the time, sure. But his confidence in Colin seems rather high and if my top town read was the other person with votes, and my role was meh or I wasn’t participating up to the snuff in comparison, then I’d probably just vote who I think is the most suspicious.

I’m more a manic dog looking for my binky when I have suspicion in general, and I think Epi is more calm about shit

[ColinIsCool]

@Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

Is this your reasoning behind the post above it, or is there more?

[nutella]

Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

Is this your reasoning behind the post above it, or is there more?

It's part of it yeah. Otherwise in general I just don't see much of anything that convinced me dizzy can't be bad, so poe candidate.

[nutella]

I think probably if marmot is bad dizzy's not his teammate, but lapluie would be compatible with either

[Scotty]

I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

I read you as civilian. Unless they’re sitting on their hands and not broadcasting suspicions, almost everybody else in the game seems to be reading you as civilian too — are they going to get lynched for that?

Well that’s patently false. He currently has 2 votes. And who firmly reads him as civ?

[ColinIsCool]

You do?

Ok the last few pages as I’m reading them is a big ole oscillation of reads, and I see it started by Epi coming out swinging. He’s seems like he’s flailing looking for more suspects

I feel like Nutella is all over the place but I read her as town as fuck so far and even though it’s probanly confusing the town the more her reads change on a dime, I’m calling her as mucho town read.

JJJ lasting long into the game is something that I remember irked me subconsciously in Ass class, when he was unbelievably town, yet I was convinced he was bad even after the game ended. The difference here is that if he was bad, he would have totally thrown someone under the bus seemingly out of left field so the options here are 1) he spidey sensed that shit D1 or 2) he did something he confesses he would never do as mafia D1 and has been pulling back afterwards deliberately. I’m in the summer camp of divine JJJ who’s just been off his mark the pet few days.

[ColinIsCool]

I could be just not paying attention but I don’t see Jay in many people’s POE pools, at all. It’s not a radical statement.

[Marmot]

I disappear for a weekend and you all think it's a good idea to lynch me?

Who taught you how to play mafia?

[Marmot]

Catching up now. It's weird to read through Day 3 knowing that MP is already town.

[Marmot]

I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

This defense doesn't make sense to me. As in, it looks to me like you'd expect Jay to do anything else as scum aside from the thing that he actually did do. TMI.

[Marmot]

I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

This for example.

You’ve expressed unease about me given the way I play. That’s fine. Considering that though, I struggle to understand why my legacy posts, which were inspirational in nature and did not contain actual reads, would be sufficient to alleviate the tinfoil you otherwise tend to project about me. Within that framework this seems a tenuous defense of me.

Hmm ok
I guess just because it seems like, knowing you, you’ve said before that scum need to just be able to survive the noose right no matter what that’s their most important goal so I think with that in mind if you were scum you would be actively trying to do that in a different way like saying oh lynch this person instead here’s a big fucking case you know. Instead of being like ... yall if my ass gets murdered here are your instrucfions before leaving earth. I bet that doesnt make sense but thats the thinking. I mean you can do WIFOM but idk get that shit outta here

actually a fair point. I think Jay's response to MP's and my suspicion/intent to lynch him makes him look more town atm, I'm just... very afraid that he could easily fake that classic jay supatown behavior. Like I said earlier I'm kind of in paranoid-tinfoily mode and just won't feel right until I know his alignment for sure, but I will probably end up on a more reasonable candidate (eloh or marmot) by eod.

What makes me a reasonable lynch candidate?

[Marmot]

Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.

Fucking unlynchable role.

I'm not really sure. Elo doesn't seem to care, which could indicate that, but Marmot has been putting forth an insane effort, which in a different way could indicate that?

I don't know.

One thing I notice is that Marmot's quietest day (this one) also happens to be the one in which he is faced with the most pressure. I'm not sure what he's doing in the real world right now, but if that bears relevance to game activity then it might indicate a reduced degree of concern over his place in the poll.

Nah, I said I wouldn't be around this weekend.

[Marmot]

I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

[Dyslexicon]

K Dys could be bad

Tell me about it. : p

[Marmot]

kay im not gonna break that up so just pretend my response is well organised and nod approvingly

The two civs reads were referring to my GTH list earlier. When I say I want a clean slate, such a thing obviously doesn't exist. I had those reads for a reason. The idea is that I take a step back and reform my opinions with something that's not spur of the moment. So while I say they're good, those are reads I no longer care about preserving.

I had beef with that one post of Mac's. Marmot looks very good on his own power. And I did complete the whole ISO. I had three tabs open at a time, the main ISO, a quote and the opened quote where I wrote my thoughts. In the end I must've posted the third tab and closed to one I was working on. Case in point he's exhibiting a strong civilian effort.

I talked about the choutas vote in the lost content. He was pushing lapluie as bad before moving his vote which shows he actually gives a damn about making a difference. I have no problems with someone like that moving off their wagon at the last minute.

When I talk about genuinity, I'm talking about a performance that shows a genuine desire to solve the game. I've already made this whole "scum can be genuine too" argument in another game. I know how it works.
Please don't pretend WIFOM from Marmot is something new.

I don't think anyone's ever said such nice things about me.

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

I don't think you get how cover actually works. If I'm voting you and going after you hard I will blow cover. If not, it's ha[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]
Also, have you ISO'd me and stuff. Cause I'm obv-town. <3

[Dyslexicon]

Also also also, depending on if I can fall asleep with my bf or not, I may not be able to catch up tonight. If I stay up, I will though.

[Marmot]

I read through Marmot's ISO, and it made me feel better than I expected. Most of the posts looks very genuine. I'm wary of Marmot being a charesmatic player. All in all I'm less suspicious than I was. There's a couple of things that did stand out to me.

Mafia is a hard game, especially on Cindy Kate. Why is that?

Funny you say that in a game where we lynch mafia on Day 1.

I may be stretching here, but TMI that I'm town?

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine fornow.

And why did you vote Eloh again? You've been defending her mostly up to this point.

I had, I didn't like this post, and I made the vote early on not expecting to make it back on at another point in the day, nor having been caught up in the context of the game, so I voted a player I was ok lynching.

[Marmot]

Quin, reads list?

GTH, sure.

colin - good
dizzy - bad
eloh - good
epi - good
3j - bad
lap - bad
MP - good
marmot - good
nutella - good
scotty - good

Y'all should give me a four-name POE pool.

Eloh
MP
Dizzy
Epi

Quin has said next to nothing about me.

That's because he knows better.

So?

[Marmot]

I want everyone to reflect on why JJJ is automatically a ninth inning at-bat. Go.

That's not a reason to lynch him.

[Marmot]

I should really be asleep by now but I suddenly got this nagging hunch that wolves is lapluie and marmot. Idk, was thinking about some possible permutations and this one seemed to click, but I haven't looked into much to flesh it out so it's just a hunch.

Linki ok yeah sounds good lol [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

We would cruise this game if we were teammates.

[Marmot]

@Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

Well I guess Dizzy obviously isn't Gladys.

[ColinIsCool]

I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

This defense doesn't make sense to me. As in, it looks to me like you'd expect Jay to do anything else as scum aside from the thing that he actually did do. TMI.

No. What I’m saying is, some people toss their hands up as scum and walk away, others are really competitive and will do whatever they can to avoid the lynch. Jay is the latter, and he said he was the latter, and if his posts on the subject don’t read as genuine to you, then why aren’t you voting for him?

It’s astounding how I can get this much heat for saying something that everybody seems to implicitly agree with.

[Scotty]

I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

[Marmot]

I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

That bothers me. I make 200 posts Days 1-2, and receive suspicion, yet no one acts on it. I make 1 post Day 3 and say I won't be around, and I receive 4 votes and almost get lynched.

The mafia are a bunch of cowards. Try lynching me when I'm here to defend myself dammit!

[Scotty]

I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

That bothers me. I make 200 posts Days 1-2, and receive suspicion, yet no one acts on it. I make 1 post Day 3 and say I won't be around, and I receive 4 votes and almost get lynched.

The mafia are a bunch of cowards. Try lynching me when I'm here to defend myself dammit!

Interesting that you say mafia was trying to lynch you because Quin seems to think the strategic choice would have been latching into Elo.

[Scotty]

But then the strategic thing would have been to kill JJj early, and yet here we are.

Killing Mp does make sense if the mafia is going after high posters, but if that’s the case, why is JJJ still alive too? I’m just always on high alert when he’s not dead by now especially after voting off mafia d1

[Marmot]

I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

That bothers me. I make 200 posts Days 1-2, and receive suspicion, yet no one acts on it. I make 1 post Day 3 and say I won't be around, and I receive 4 votes and almost get lynched.

The mafia are a bunch of cowards. Try lynching me when I'm here to defend myself dammit!

Interesting that you say mafia was trying to lynch you because Quin seems to think the strategic choice would have been latching into Elo.

I don't know off the top of my head who voted for me, but I wouldn't be surprised if mafia was on that wagon. Elohcin was the only other player with votes.

[Marmot]

But then the strategic thing would have been to kill JJj early, and yet here we are.

Killing Mp does make sense if the mafia is going after high posters, but if that’s the case, why is JJJ still alive too? I’m just always on high alert when he’s not dead by now especially after voting off mafia d1

MP is the first high-poster to be nightkilled. I don't think this is a strategy the mafia is using.