Easter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Quin]

oh lmao

[Quin]

yeah k

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[nutella]

Yes, certainly many if not all of the cases on Colin before claimgate occurred. I townread him pretty much exclusively up until then when some other players scumread him. I'm sure there are more examples, like I think you suspected Epi after I decided he was civ, and I think Scotty has said some things about Dizzy that I disagree with. Also when Quin postedhis strong town read of marmot lol.

Are these things that you voiced?

Im fairly sure I voiced my town read of Colin a couple times back in the day... the days before the....incident....

[Quin]

It's all calculated I proooooooooomise!

You know, I still think you're scum. Even if you end up being town, you will be scum to me. : p

If I'm Gladys Campbell, Dizzy is not a dentist.

All will be reveal, my friend.

I think Dizzy is the last dentist.

[Quin]

@nutella
@Scotty
@Quin

One of you is a mafioso. I need to narrow it down to two of you.

Please tell me why I should believe you are a civilian.

Did you think this as well? You're so smart, Jimmy.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did you think this as well? You're so smart, Jimmy.

That's not why I pulled Dizzy from the POE, but I do think there's evidence of that, sure.

Which is why a correct 2-player POE among Quin, nutella, and Scotty wins the game.

[Quin]

Did you think this as well? You're so smart, Jimmy.

That's not why I pulled Dizzy from the POE, but I do think there's evidence of that, sure.

Which is why a correct 2-player POE among Quin, nutella, and Scotty wins the game.

fun!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

fun!

Who's yours?

[Dyslexicon]

If we win this game, it's due to an incredibly committed and collaborative team effort by the civilians. Great job civs, let's keep it up!

Sure thing.

*throws popcorn at*

[Dyslexicon]

I think Dizzy is the last dentist.

Well, I can neither confirm or deny that.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Oh wow. Am I ready for this. I think I am.

[Dyslexicon]

I still haven't ISO'd Quin. But poll runs until Sunday?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Oh wow. Am I ready for this. I think I am.

Before you read into that, please read the most recent exchange between Quin and nutella and report back.

[Quin]

Did you think this as well? You're so smart, Jimmy.

That's not why I pulled Dizzy from the POE, but I do think there's evidence of that, sure.

Which is why a correct 2-player POE among Quin, nutella, and Scotty wins the game.

If you're bad, I think you just made things more difficult on yourself here by giving me a reason to stick with a 3 person PoE. 66% chance that you lose versus 50% (provided anyone else agrees to clear dizzy). It's unlikely I'd say.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still haven't ISO'd Quin. But poll runs until Sunday?

The more you procrastinate, the less likely it is to ever happen.

[Quin]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Oh wow. Am I ready for this. I think I am.

Before you read into that, please read the most recent exchange between Quin and nutella and report back.

and when you realise my dazzling civilian radiance let's get this 2 person PoE going

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Oh wow. Am I ready for this. I think I am.

Before you read into that, please read the most recent exchange between Quin and nutella and report back.

But I'm tired. I may. I may not, sorry. I just caught up in a different game. This is not how my life is supposed to be right now.

[Quin]

I still haven't ISO'd Quin. But poll runs until Sunday?

The more you procrastinate, the less likely it is to ever happen.

and you have fucking 11 pages what am i supposed to do

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still haven't ISO'd Quin. But poll runs until Sunday?

The more you procrastinate, the less likely it is to ever happen.

and you have fucking 11 pages what am i supposed to do

Dedicate yourself to Scotty's 6 pages instead.

[Quin]

Did you think this as well? You're so smart, Jimmy.

That's not why I pulled Dizzy from the POE, but I do think there's evidence of that, sure.

Which is why a correct 2-player POE among Quin, nutella, and Scotty wins the game.

If you're bad, I think you just made things more difficult on yourself here by giving me a reason to stick with a 3 person PoE. 66% chance that you lose versus 50% (provided anyone else agrees to clear dizzy). It's unlikely I'd say.

holy shit isn't pushing for a self-inclusive 3 person PoE consistent with the king of fuck mountain a good look for me?

[Quin]

POE (lynching first to last)

nutella
Scotty
JaggedJimmyJay

right now it's more like

nutella












Scotty

JaggedJimmyJay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

holy shit isn't pushing for a self-inclusive 3 person PoE consistent with the king of fuck mountain a good look for me?

No. Stop talking about how you look and hunt.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]nutella[/mention], please give me the best case that Quin is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

[Quin]

holy shit isn't pushing for a self-inclusive 3 person PoE consistent with the king of fuck mountain a good look for me?

No. Stop talking about how you look and hunt.

The WIFOM is strong in me today.

[Dyslexicon]

Quin, you need to understand that Nut is town and Scotty is scum. Forget that I was wrong about Marmot. I was originally right about Colin though I fucked it up. I'm centered, calm and confident again. Meow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Quin[/mention], please give me the best case that nutella is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

[Quin]

Quin, you need to understand that Nut is town and Scotty is scum. Forget that I was wrong about Marmot. I was originally right about Colin though I fucked it up. I'm centered, calm and confident again. Meow.

I'm in the process of reading Scotty. I'll let you know what I think.

[nutella]

nutella, please give me the best case that Quin is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

He had some decent looks in relation to choutas early on, iirc especially with his vote.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella, please give me the best case that Quin is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

He had some decent looks in relation to choutas early on, iirc especially with his vote.

That vote was the only relation he had with Choutas. So that's it?

[Quin]

Quin, please give me the best case that nutella is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

nutella went from spectating to full participation rather organically. Spectator perceptions are essentially the same as town ones except from a "wider" angle. if she'd gotten a scum role I think she'd be delayed by having to reorganise her thoughts to fit that new perspective.

[nutella]

nutella, please give me the best case that Quin is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

He had some decent looks in relation to choutas early on, iirc especially with his vote.

That vote was the only relation he had with Choutas. So that's it?

That's not the only thing because I know I townread him for a while, but I'd have to look into the specific reasons other than the choutas vote. I'm getting to his iso soon I promise so I'll let you know

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Quin, please give me the best case that nutella is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

nutella went from spectating to full participation rather organically. Spectator perceptions are essentially the same as town ones except from a "wider" angle. if she'd gotten a scum role I think she'd be delayed by having to reorganise her thoughts to fit that new perspective.

Does that perception mesh with your own replacement into Mad Max?

[Quin]

nutella, please give me the best case that Quin is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

He had some decent looks in relation to choutas early on, iirc especially with his vote.

my vote was literally my only reference to the guy

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If my questions are preventing y'all from digging, then ignore me. But you have got to get to it soon. The day phase won't last an eternity. I am trying to keep the thread awake.

[Quin]

Quin, please give me the best case that nutella is a civilian, even if in only a few words.

nutella went from spectating to full participation rather organically. Spectator perceptions are essentially the same as town ones except from a "wider" angle. if she'd gotten a scum role I think she'd be delayed by having to reorganise her thoughts to fit that new perspective.

Does that perception mesh with your own replacement into Mad Max?

I didn't spectate Mad Max so it's not quite the same thing. But I had an angle waiting for me when I subbed in which guided those earlier posts. The Eloh lynch was absolutely going to happen which I took advantage of.

[Quin]

If my questions are preventing y'all from digging, then ignore me. But you have got to get to it soon. The day phase won't last an eternity. I am trying to keep the thread awake.

oh my god dad im doing it just wait

[Dyslexicon]

Aw, we're one messed up family. How sweet. I want to be the crazy aunt that goes like this any time someone accuses me:

[Quin]

Aw, we're one messed up family. How sweet. I want to be the crazy aunt that goes like this any time someone accuses me:

same but

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Making a note:

nutella did not shy away from Agreeable Alice behavior as a mafioso in Fire Emblem, and also used a ton of ellipses.

[Quin]

Page 1 of Scotty ISO:

[VOTE: choutas] aubergine

Eyyyyyyyy boi

choutas made a fluff post to earn this vote pretty much immediately. He wasn't getting lynched for that. The vote itself is RVS and I'd sooner see it as distancing than a good look.

Nova looks AOK to me, woodchuck chuckers. At least he’s asking question(s)!

Here’s a question: who else here has owned a rabbit before?

Was it a good question?

No, it was objectively self-fulfilling.

I'm okay with this.

I use chrome maybe its a settings issue.
Anyhow lets get to business.

Cool. What do you think of rabbits?

Also, the game

Theyre cute but they make terrible meat so a no for me.
The game has started in a mild manner we need to stir things up. Force people to read others.

As for Day one Mac i think hes right into the role.

Are you looking to stir things up? Because “he’s right into the role” ain’t stirring shit

Whatever right into the role means

The choutas suspicion becomes a thing.

this game is so much more palatable atm than the job.

Let’s see...
JJJ and Quin are camels in a spitting match.
Mac makes some blanket statements that jjj is bad, as well wolbre
Marmot comes in (hi) and WIFOMs the shit out of everything.

Gotta admit. I don’t know what Mac specifically saw in calling out jjj, which raises my eyebrows but I especially don’t like how Marmot entered the game on his behalf.

Substitution being a scum indicator is never an argument I like. Especially for MacDougall.

[VOTE: TheFloyd] aubergine hasn’t checked in

Voting no-shows is consistent with Scotty meta.

Wait, did Elo never actually vote Jay? That's odd.

Oh ho. So really, there should be 5 votes on JJJ.

Yeah, I’m avoidig this train like hot fire. Way too easy

@G-Man is it possible to update everyone’s ISO when you get a chance? Everyone has posted but Floyd

He follows up this pro-3J stance pretty well. Kudos for not just voicing opposition and walking away.

Wait, did Elo never actually vote Jay? That's odd.

Oh ho. So really, there should be 5 votes on JJJ.

Yeah, I’m avoidig this train like hot fire. Way too easy

@G-Man is it possible to update everyone’s ISO when you get a chance? Everyone has posted but Floyd

Normally I'd be in 100% agreement with you. But something's off with Jay this game, and I've tried to articulate why I think that makes him look bad. What do you think of what I've highlighted?

My initial thought during the Quin/JJJ spat was that they look civ. That hasn’t changed.

I agree with your assessment that jjj engaged with Elo and Quin and essentially no-u’d them, but he didn’t hide that fact either. I think he’s backing up his reasoning and is feeling cagey. Which I don’t blame him for- I’d probably be like that too as the front runner on D1.

I think I have to look at the votes on him first and foremost, because I can’t shake he feeling that he has too many errant votes for bs reasons on him. I don’t like nova’s vote, and I don’t even know why dizzy is voting there. Now you’ve come to the conclusion that he’s bad, and there’s a recipe for a mislynch in a 13 Person game.

Unless everyone votig for JJJ right now is town and we’ve just solved the game lol

But nah.

Said follow up.

Scotty, Floyd can be and is likely to be replaced though. How about someone else?

We don’t know that. In any case, I like where my vote is regardless.

If there were another option, I’d say Elo or choutus

choutas is still on the table. I'm doubting the suspicion is distancing.

I missed EoD but I ain’t mad choutas got the axe.

As long as y’all got off JJJ

Didn't actually vote for choutas. If he wasn't here he wasn't here

I’m just realizing how brilliant Marmot’s D1 tradition is. There is no expectation of him ever making a real stance this phase as town and it carries over into his scum game easily, freeing him of most things a scum might get trapped in that early. I’m not making a read here, just, kudos.

I’m all for good D1 traditions that don’t get you lynched D1, but this isn’t just a D1 tradition for him either. He will often self vote later too, and he guzzles WIFOM like he’s at an orchard tasting.

Marmot’s production is where we should see an alignment pop up

He says this, but then he says this:

Wolbre and Jay teammates

Agreed. Marmot's teammates identified.

I can’t get this quote from marmot’s entrance out of my head. I strongly feel like jjj is town this game, so I don’t think Marmot called out his scummates here. But I currently suspect wolbre and wouldn’t be surprised if Marmot threw in one of his teammates in this too. Marmot votes choutas end of day, wolbre voted early before vhoutas even had votes. Coming in from different angles to form an isosceles triangle. I can see it

Obviously WIFOM can be read but the read feels forced in this case.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella seemed more independent, but still did voice agreement on occasion as a civilian in Fiddler on the Roof.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Random note to make about Scotty:

He entered this phase and named Quin his third suspect, which is critical in a 2-player POE scenario. Quin was the easiest lynch available, and Scotty gave some resistance to that. It's a decent look, hindered some by the fact that Scotty has found cause to vote Quin anyway.

[Epignosis]

I'm like six pages behind and I can't read all of this in time. I just have no time for anything. Plus I have a game tonight. I really don't understand why people have to quote every post and comment "banter" beneath half of them. I mean, if the post isn't relevant, don't clutter things up. I'm drowning here.

[Quin]

Page 2 of Scotty ISO:

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I’m Shirt on time but nova’s kill is odd to say the least. Looks like he didn’t have many strong accusations except maybe wolbre. Can’t really link the kill to anyone

It might be too easy but I’m gonna start with a vote for [VOTE: wolbre] aubergine

But am also up for either marmot or MP.

I don’t wanna limit it to just them tho. I don’t wanna feel like I’ve been bamboozled by seemingly town looking players- that’s trouvle. But I currently have no reason to suspect jjj. Lol that’ll probably come in day 4 when he’s stil pumpkins water on the cistern and hasn’t been NK’d

Will check back later in the day

Analysed the nova kill the same way I did, but called it odd. He literally explains why it's a smart kill in the next sentence. Meh.

@Everybody

Only two bad guys remain. It may seem early, but POE is your friend. If you can narrow the pool down to about five suspects, you're giving yourself a great opportunity. If you can't, then you have alerted yourself to the investigative pursuits you need to work on. With 2 mafia alive against 11 civilians, we can mislynch four times before arriving at a LyLo phase (assuming no prevented kills and no shenanigans). Also be aware that the presence of a temporarily lynch-immune bad guy can interfere with that considerably.

I forgot that no-lynch role was in and just had a thought- what if the teammate bussed that player early to get him lynched and gain civ credit? Would that even be worth it?

I think 3J pointed out TMI here. I can see it.

Looking at colin’s Iso

He has this habit of not quoting posts with answers to phantom questions and it’s slightly frustrating. Colin, do you do this every game?

You got through most of day 1 pretty actively promoting not lynching JJJ and MP, and voting lap, though I’m not entirely sure why.

Pages 8-9

Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.

Colini's posts reads like a scum player who wants to lynch the town player who deserves it the most.
^Someone talk to me about this.

You mean like Colin is going after low hanging fruit, easy suspects? Yeah, I could see that. His reads are probably the "easiest"; i.e., his town reads are active and his mafia reads are relatively inactive or acting weird.

I mean, I disagree with “low-hanging fruit” but it is true that I’m aligning the active people as town right now. I didn’t really think of that like that. But if people are “acting weird” as you say, what’s bad about suspecting them?

Safe is probably the term I’d use for Colin at this point in the game.

Also I’m almost done with his iso and he still hasn’t mentioned choutas but once.

Okay, so reads:

JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.

I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.

Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.

Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.

lol ok so his main suspect is lap (and I think Elo and Dys?The syntax of that sentence was weird) then slight shade to me and choutas.

Definitely safe reads all around though. Nothing condemning.

This came like 40 min before EoD:

I think there are better options than Choutas as I said, but I’d be fine with his lynch.

“As I’ve said”
no you didn’t. You said you preferred lap and read him as slight scum lean.

Bad look. I don’t like how your only mentionof choutas was slight scum and even at the end you slightly defend him.

I lean bad on Colin right now.
Where are you now on lap? And what has changed in reads for you?

I really like this. I get lazy and skip phantom posts sometimes (probably done it already tbh) but the meta follow up is good.

Quick look at Elo because why not:

I do too. I won't be voting there. I need to check when the poll ends.

Needs to check when the poll ends, doesn’t want k Lynch JJJ.

votes Dizzy. Ephraim said so.

Good job guys! As I was reading through what was going on, I would have changed to Chou if I were here EoD. But alas, I was hanging out with the family.

I will try to be more active. My heart's just not in it.

So she votes because the spirits told her, but would have voted choutas if she were here, or so she says. Didn’t check when the poll ended, I’m assuming.

Kind of alarming that we lynch a baddie and her heart’s not in it. It could be NAI, but that seems like an odd time to lose energy, don’t it?

Girl, get some caffeine!

Anyway, that’s all for elo’s Mention of choutas. It’s not a great look. She also looks bad by disassociation and her post lynch comment

Don't really care for these sorts of reads. I don't make a show of things when we lynch/mislynch (unless I look bad as a result ) so she doesn't have to.

[Epignosis]

I can't even tell when someone has a point to make or is just summarizing something. I can't tell if it's sarcasm or what.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can't even tell when someone has a point to make or is just summarizing something. I can't tell if it's sarcasm or what.

Sometimes it's a progression. Not every comment should be assessed in isolation.

[Quin]

This is taking way longer than I thought so I'm calling it unless there are specific interactions to be looked at after. I have other things to do.

From those 2 pages, he has a mix of things going for him. Probably more bad than good but the good things are...good. I don't have problems with him as my number 2 PoE candidate.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can't even tell when someone has a point to make or is just summarizing something. I can't tell if it's sarcasm or what.

And moreover, if you feel that someone isn't progressing toward any kind of point, then you should highlight that. Maybe it's fake effort.

[Quin]

Random note to make about Scotty:

He entered this phase and named Quin his third suspect, which is critical in a 2-player POE scenario. Quin was the easiest lynch available, and Scotty gave some resistance to that. It's a decent look, hindered some by the fact that Scotty has found cause to vote Quin anyway.

I don't really understand why he's voting for me.