[ENDGAME] The Shawshank Redemption Mafia

#751

It's very reasonable this time of year, so take your time and don't feel bad about it! Safe travels.

#752

Mongoose wrote:It's very reasonable this time of year, so take your time and don't feel bad about it! Safe travels.

I can still post, but I can't host. Can't sleep, truth be told. Do you do anything Jewish-ish for the holidays?

#753

Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:It's very reasonable this time of year, so take your time and don't feel bad about it! Safe travels.
I can still post, but I can't host. Can't sleep, truth be told. Do you do anything Jewish-ish for the holidays?

I went to a seder with my next-door neighbor. And ate my weight in latkes and cherry afikoman. Super fun. I also have my dreidl out. I had a menorah but it's been put away now than Hannukah is over. The Christmas tree is now up, woot.

My favorite thing to say to a recently-dumped Jewish pal is "Don't worry, Bubbe. There's lots more Gefilte Fish left in the sea."

#754

Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.

And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to.

That's my point.

#755

Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.
And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to. That's my point.

Eloh once said to me: "I must marry a guy I know I can submit to." Imagine what kind of pressure that put on ME.

#756

Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:It's very reasonable this time of year, so take your time and don't feel bad about it! Safe travels.
I can still post, but I can't host. Can't sleep, truth be told. Do you do anything Jewish-ish for the holidays?
I went to a seder with my next-door neighbor. And ate my weight in latkes and cherry afikoman. Super fun. I also have my dreidl out. I had a menorah but it's been put away now than Hannukah is over. The Christmas tree is now up, woot.

My favorite thing to say to a recently-dumped Jewish pal is "Don't worry, Bubbe. There's lots more Gefilte Fish left in the sea."

I am not Jewish, but I sometimes pray in Hebrew. Is that weird?

#757

Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:It's very reasonable this time of year, so take your time and don't feel bad about it! Safe travels.
I can still post, but I can't host. Can't sleep, truth be told. Do you do anything Jewish-ish for the holidays?
I went to a seder with my next-door neighbor. And ate my weight in latkes and cherry afikoman. Super fun. I also have my dreidl out. I had a menorah but it's been put away now than Hannukah is over. The Christmas tree is now up, woot.

My favorite thing to say to a recently-dumped Jewish pal is "Don't worry, Bubbe. There's lots more Gefilte Fish left in the sea."
I am not Jewish, but I sometimes pray in Hebrew. Is that weird?

Nah, it certainly has a definitely flow.

#758

Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.
And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to. That's my point.

#759

Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.
And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to. That's my point.

with how society is moving towards androgyne and the easing of gender roles people are going to stop acting out roles and start being themselves. Or so I believe.

#760

Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:It's very reasonable this time of year, so take your time and don't feel bad about it! Safe travels.
I can still post, but I can't host. Can't sleep, truth be told. Do you do anything Jewish-ish for the holidays?
I went to a seder with my next-door neighbor. And ate my weight in latkes and cherry afikoman. Super fun. I also have my dreidl out. I had a menorah but it's been put away now than Hannukah is over. The Christmas tree is now up, woot.

My favorite thing to say to a recently-dumped Jewish pal is "Don't worry, Bubbe. There's lots more Gefilte Fish left in the sea."
I am not Jewish, but I sometimes pray in Hebrew. Is that weird?
Nah, it certainly has a definitely flow.

"Blessed are you oh Lord our God, king of the universe, who brings forth bread from the earth" was one of my favorites.

I went to synagogue once many years ago. After the service, these people had a feast and were downing Wild Turkey. I was but 19, but my thought was, "Jesus! These people can't have bacon-wrapped shrimp or a cheeseburger, but damn if they aren't making up for it!"

#761

johns2jj wrote:
Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.
And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to. That's my point.
with how society is moving towards androgyne and the easing of gender roles people are going to stop acting out roles and start being themselves. Or so I believe.

There's no such thing as "society."

#762

Epignosis wrote: There's no such thing as "society."

Amen.

#763

Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.
And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to. That's my point.
Eloh once said to me: "I must marry a guy I know I can submit to." Imagine what kind of pressure that put on ME.

:politegiggle:

#764

Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Post your favorite Bible verse. State why. Argue.
"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)
Reminds me of how sexist religion tends to be. And makes me sick.
Call me old fashion, but I don't mind not being head of the household. I am happy to submit (most of the time ) I enjoy my wifely/motherly role. It is what I've always aspired to do.
And that's fine! But not all women should be subject to that if they do not wish to. That's my point.
Eloh once said to me: "I must marry a guy I know I can submit to." Imagine what kind of pressure that put on ME.

#765

I've been voting for Lizzie for 3 days now, yet no one seems to question me, nor do they talk about it or think of following me. I find that very weird. The only person that does reply to my posts about her is A person and he always defends her. So I'm thinking are they BTSC and everyone figured it out already? If so, is that why no baddies are trying to latch on? If so, why is no one suspicious of me for going after her?
If they are not BTSC, why is he protecting her like that, and why doesn't it raise any red flags for anyone?
If you all are just ignoring me and my suspicions, I guess I'll just go and sit in the dark

#766

Oh, and I hope I'm allowed to talk about the roles in that way. I don't think I was saying something I shouldn't, bu in case I was, I'm sorry

#767

As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.

#768

FZ. wrote:I've been voting for Lizzie for 3 days now, yet no one seems to question me, nor do they talk about it or think of following me. I find that very weird. The only person that does reply to my posts about her is A person and he always defends her. So I'm thinking are they BTSC and everyone figured it out already? If so, is that why no baddies are trying to latch on? If so, why is no one suspicious of me for going after her?
If they are not BTSC, why is he protecting her like that, and why doesn't it raise any red flags for anyone?
If you all are just ignoring me and my suspicions, I guess I'll just go and sit in the dark

Yay, plane WiFi! It's too hard to mafia on my phone to build theories, so that will happen later today or tomorrow, but I wanted to respond to this.

FZ, sorry people are ignoring you! I think it's a question of expectations. Lizzy often posts infrequently. I'm not sure whether it's her style or that she travels. Vomps ALWAYS defends her, and usually A Person too. So it's probably not fair at all (especially to Mr Thomas), but people are so used to it that it just doesn't ping us any more.

#769

Well, as Lizzy pointed out when I voted her earlier (which led me to reread her across the board), the game where she was really high participation, she was bad, plus that was a sock game and she was wearing a persona. Vomp tends to post somewhat more on topic when he is bad in my experience as well, having hosted him in 6FU. BUT in the first game he ever played, Hard Rock at the Piano, he played a beautiful bad game where most of his posts consisted of "Bump", lol, although he did post some on topic content as well. He was so charming we actually apologized for lynching him. So

I tend to view them (and A Person & Boats, to a lesser extent) as people playing for reasons other than more traditional reasons for playing Mafia, avant garde Mafia players if you will. As i said previously, I think they are somewhat more topical in BTS situations. So I no longer necessarily think she is bad based on her low posting. Prior experience as well as my reread lead me to rather the opposite conclusion.

#770

Vompatti wrote:As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.

ture

#771

Haven't had a chance to read this totlly sorry guys and I have to go now, will definitely be back late tnight

#772

Has anyone else noticed that we have seen no sign of the SK yet? I mean, his role doesn't say that he actually gets NKs, but given his name I think he would. It is odd that after three days he hasn't poked his head out.

#773

Well it is still night 3, so he has only missed 2 nights so far. He could have missed a PM and been blocked one night, or he could be Devin. He could have chosen to hold his kill, although I see no reason at this point for someone to do that in this game. Lets see if we hear from him tonight.

#774

Huzzah for prolonged night period. I don't have a favouite quote, butt, I like the way Robert Powell delivered this line (almost) in the film

Matthew 26:52 wrote: Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

here k

#775

Lizzy wrote:Huzzah for prolonged night period. I don't have a favouite quote, butt, I like the way Robert Powell delivered this line (almost) in the film

Matthew 26:52 wrote: Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
here k

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#776

Mongoose wrote:
Lizzy wrote:Huzzah for prolonged night period. I don't have a favouite quote, butt, I like the way Robert Powell delivered this line (almost) in the film

Matthew 26:52 wrote: Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
here k
This video contains content from The Orchard Music, Syntax Distribution and Lionsgate, one or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

How about this one q.m.

#777

Although my favourite scene from the film was his exchange with Sir Laurence Olivier. dat acting :O

#778

Lizzy wrote:
How about this one q.m.

This video is not available in your country.

#779

Mongoose wrote:
Lizzy wrote:
How about this one q.m.
This video is not available in your country.

If only we didn't live in such a tiny backwater country.

#780

Vompatti wrote:As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.

Is it something I have missed? How do you confirm someone as a civilian?

#781

johns2jj wrote:
Vompatti wrote:As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.
Is it something I have missed? How do you confirm someone as a civilian?

We've confirmed the fact that she's Lizzy, and is therefore good.

#782

A Person wrote:
johns2jj wrote:
Vompatti wrote:As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.
Is it something I have missed? How do you confirm someone as a civilian?
We've confirmed the fact that she's Lizzy, and is therefore good.

What if someone hacked her account and is posting under her name? Worth considering, I think.

#783

thellama73 wrote:
A Person wrote:
johns2jj wrote:
Vompatti wrote:As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.
Is it something I have missed? How do you confirm someone as a civilian?
We've confirmed the fact that she's Lizzy, and is therefore good.
What if someone hacked her account and is posting under her name? Worth considering, I think.

She would've told me so.

#784

We have arrived safely and uneventfully.

Thank you for your patience. I'll be getting it together to make the post and send PMs.

#785

Epignosis wrote:We have arrived safely and uneventfully.

Thank you for your patience. I'll be getting it together to make the post and send PMs.

Are you nice and toasty?

#786

Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:We have arrived safely and uneventfully.

Thank you for your patience. I'll be getting it together to make the post and send PMs.
Are you nice and toasty?

It's 87 degrees. People are walking around shirtless and in bathing suits.

#787

A Person wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
A Person wrote:
johns2jj wrote:
Vompatti wrote:As far as I know Lizzy is a confirmed civvie.
Is it something I have missed? How do you confirm someone as a civilian?
We've confirmed the fact that she's Lizzy, and is therefore good.
What if someone hacked her account and is posting under her name? Worth considering, I think.
She would've told me so.

If she was someone else posing as Lizzy, she might not have told you.

#788

S~V~S wrote:If she was someone else posing as Lizzy, she might not have told you.

She'd tell me on a place not this site, unless everything of hers was hacked.

#789

Also, just to forewarn everyone. My wife's laptop is an Acer, model # POSfuuuuuuuuuuuu>-0

So again thank you for your patience.

#790

So let me get this straight. Lizzie is always confirmed civ. Sorry, I didn't get the memo. Why is she not dead every single game?
How about A person? Is he a confirmed civ as well? Because the way I see it, one of them is not a civ. Why are people giving them a pass?

#791

FZ. wrote:So let me get this straight. Lizzie is always confirmed civ. Sorry, I didn't get the memo. Why is she not dead every single game?
How about A person? Is he a confirmed civ as well? Because the way I see it, one of them is not a civ. Why are people giving them a pass?

Lizzy/Vomp/AP will probably never vote for each other and always support each other. It's normal behaviour for the three of them regardless of whether they're civ, bad, indies or all three at once. That's why people aren't finding them suspicious for doing it, but that's not to say the rest of us can't be suspicious of the trio.

#792

Bullzeye wrote:
FZ. wrote:So let me get this straight. Lizzie is always confirmed civ. Sorry, I didn't get the memo. Why is she not dead every single game?
How about A person? Is he a confirmed civ as well? Because the way I see it, one of them is not a civ. Why are people giving them a pass?
Lizzy/Vomp/AP will probably never vote for each other and always support each other. It's normal behaviour for the three of them regardless of whether they're civ, bad, indies or all three at once. That's why people aren't finding them suspicious for doing it, but that's not to say the rest of us can't be suspicious of the trio.

Yeah, I got it. Thanks. I'd compare it to the Eurovision song contest, but most of you probably wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Looking at how much more posts Lizzie now has in the other game, what does it make you think about her? Maybe she's bad there and not here. I would think that keeping up in this game would be easier since there are less people and less catching up to do. Yet, surprisingly, she is more into the other game. Maybe she's trying harder there because she's a baddie there, but maybe not.

#793

Night 3: One Night Only

I've had some long nights in the stir, but that one was the longest night of my life.

I had heard some moaning in a nearby cell, just across the corridor, but I didn't think anything of it. A person gets used to hearing the victims of prison life lick his wounds.

But after lights out, the moaning grew into wailing, and in between the howling and the quick gasps for air, we could make out words. Words like, "stomach" and "hurting" and "sharp" and "sick." The din got the attention of the guards. No surprise there. They took Dom out of his cell and told him he had three seconds to get quiet.

Instead of getting quiet, Dom managed a complete sentence: "It was something I ate," he said.

The guard who held him by the shirt collar disagreed. "Everyone in here eats the same goddamned thing. If there was something the matter with the food, it wouldn't be just you howling like a bitch in heat."

And then a second sentence: "Somebody did something to my food."

"That's enough," the guard said, and added to whatever misery was dwelling in Dom's midsection. The guard didn't go for a second hit, as I was expecting him to. Instead, he said, "Get him to the infirmary."

That would have been the end of it had some smart ass farther down on my side refrained from cracking wise.

"He sounds like your mama did last night!"

Not knowing who said it, they decided to leave Dom in his cell. We had the privilege of listening to Dom sing all night long. The performance ended around daybreak. There was no encore.

Dom has been killed by Hadley. It is now Day 4. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

#794

Hm. That's an odd choice. RIP Dom.

Votes Mongoose.

#795

A couple of housekeeping items.
1. I am going out of town tomorrow morning for a week, so will only be on here minimally to vote.
2. I have some club soda, handcrafted tonic and half a bottle of gin. I'm in for the night. Let's talk about mafia!

#796

Randomized for now to vote mongoose. Will come back later most likely to change vote but just in case I wanted to get it out of the way.

#797

johns2jj wrote:Randomized for now to vote mongoose.

Yay!

#798

thellama73 wrote:A couple of housekeeping items.

2. I have some club soda, handcrafted tonic and half a bottle of gin. I'm in for the night. Let's talk about mafia!

Well Dom got bumped off, let's throw out some reasons why. Just throwing some out of the top of my head.

1. He could have been onto something the baddies didn't want thrown out there and expanded upon.

2. The baddies thought he could have been the SK.

3. It's a frame up to make it look like X did it. I don't think this one is likely though because I don't really recall Dom getting into it with anyone this game.

4. Other

#799

A lot of the time I see baddies pick off people who are not super engaged, but not completely silent either. I don't really understand that reasoning, but I've seen it happen a lot. I think Dom fell into that category.

#800

thellama73 wrote:A lot of the time I see baddies pick off people who are not super engaged, but not completely silent either. I don't really understand that reasoning, but I've seen it happen a lot. I think Dom fell into that category.

Why do you think that is? Why not pick off someone completely silent? The possibility they may return to the game and inadvertently be pro-baddie in their appeals?