Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[Epignosis]

I still feel like the mention tag is bad.

Regarding sprityo, I spent about ten minutes writing an argument against him, only to realize I read something he said wrong, and so I got rid of everything. I was pissed too, because I thought for once I was on to something hot.

[Kylemii]

Kyle does your power simply replicate the same power acts target of whoever you target?

i don't know what you're asking here?

my power completely moves my target's last-night action into the current night.

[Kylemii]

anything that would or wouldn't have happened in the previous night because of the power being moved happens or un-happens respectively.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

[Spacedaisy]

I still feel like the mention tag is bad.

Regarding sprityo, I spent about ten minutes writing an argument against him, only to realize I read something he said wrong, and so I got rid of everything. I was pissed too, because I thought for once I was on to something hot.

So you don’t feel like he is bad any longer or you just don’t have the same reason you thought you had before?

[juliets]

@juliets btw did you learn anything last night

The only thing my role learns has already been disclosed to the thread. Did you learn anything last night?

I started reading your ISO and fell asleep - not because you are boring but because I was tired. It did occur to me as I was reading though that I felt like I was reading Kyle from U-Pick and that's not good (for those who don't know Kyle was bad in U-Pick and had us fooled so bad that he almost won). So Kyle, would you say there is a difference between your game here and your game in U-Pick? If so, what is that difference?

[Spacedaisy]

Ok, well if we do somehow manage to unvanish Mac During this Day phase or the following Night Phase, it would be worthwhile to target me next time you use your power. Otherwise don’t waste it on me.

All that said it’s just a fingers crossed and hope someone out there has that ability to bring someone back.

[Epignosis]

I still feel like the mention tag is bad.

Regarding sprityo, I spent about ten minutes writing an argument against him, only to realize I read something he said wrong, and so I got rid of everything. I was pissed too, because I thought for once I was on to something hot.

So you don’t feel like he is bad any longer or you just don’t have the same reason you thought you had before?

My thought was that he used a track on Spacedaisy Night 3, which would be super dumb, when he could have used it on me. Turns out, he used it on Night 2. I still think it was a poor use, but not nearly as poor.

Again, I'd vote for him and hope to get lucky. My main suspects at this stage are lapluie and Colin, and I've contributed a vote to the former.

[Epignosis]

I still feel like the mention tag is bad.

Regarding sprityo, I spent about ten minutes writing an argument against him, only to realize I read something he said wrong, and so I got rid of everything. I was pissed too, because I thought for once I was on to something hot.

So you don’t feel like he is bad any longer or you just don’t have the same reason you thought you had before?

My thought was that he used a track on Spacedaisy Night 3, which would be super dumb, when he could have used it on me. Turns out, he used it on Night 2. I still think it was a poor use, but not nearly as poor.

Again, I'd vote for him and hope to get lucky. My main suspects at this stage are lapluie and Colin, and I've contributed a vote to the former.

And I'm talking to Spacedaisy.

[Spacedaisy]

Lol I followed what you meant.

[Kylemii]

@juliets btw did you learn anything last night

The only thing my role learns has already been disclosed to the thread. Did you learn anything last night?

I started reading your ISO and fell asleep - not because you are boring but because I was tired. It did occur to me as I was reading though that I felt like I was reading Kyle from U-Pick and that's not good (for those who don't know Kyle was bad in U-Pick and had us fooled so bad that he almost won). So Kyle, would you say there is a difference between your game here and your game in U-Pick? If so, what is that difference?

golden used an item on day 3, and i targeted him last night, so whatever item he used should have been active for you as well?

[Kylemii]

active for you last night

[juliets]

So I just resumed my reading and decided to read lap since she was short. There was hardly anything there. She did indicate some suspicion for Luna but we don't know if Luna was bad and even if she was bad lap could have been bussing, though it doesn't seem like something she would do. She indicated she's on vacation now, unlikely to catch up, and she hasn't been back. What do those of you who have voted for her (I think that's Daisy and Epi) see that causes you to vote her over anyone else?

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]: I didn't get an item last night

[juliets]

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] ! I have just received a message from the host and can now answer your question differently. I was able to use an item but unfortunately it didn't give us any information that we didn't already have. Thanks for trying though!

[Epignosis]

Lol I followed what you meant.

It's the purple. I thought I was talking to juliets.

[Kylemii]

So Kyle, would you say there is a difference between your game here and your game in U-Pick? If so, what is that difference?

a big part of my early game civ meta is tooled specifically to allow me to have an easier time as mafia, it's something that i purposefully enforce. If i'm playing well here then there shouldn't be a visible difference. i guess the main difference is that my questions here are fully aimed toward the goal of understanding other people's motivations, though again that isn't all that different since that was also my motivation there too. so idk.

i also think you're giving me far too much credit for my gameplay in upick, i was outside of the thread for like 2 whole phases which kept me from having to actually go through with the awkward bus job that would have inevitably happened if i hadn't been whisked away to the sex cave. i got "lucky" and it got taken out of my hands when you guys checked him or whatever so when i came out of my cave (and i was doing just fine, gotta gotta be down because i want it all. it started out with a kiss how did it end up like this? it was only a kiss. it was only a kiss.) and just said like "hey btw, i definitely also think long con is bad, like i said earlier" it was easy. it was an easy transition and an easy way to get a little bit of credit to chew on during the harsh winter days.

[Kylemii]

@Kylemii ! I have just received a message from the host and can now answer your question differently. I was able to use an item but unfortunately it didn't give us any information that we didn't already have. Thanks for trying though!

hmmm ok

[Spacedaisy]

So I just resumed my reading and decided to read lap since she was short. There was hardly anything there. She did indicate some suspicion for Luna but we don't know if Luna was bad and even if she was bad lap could have been bussing, though it doesn't seem like something she would do. She indicated she's on vacation now, unlikely to catch up, and she hasn't been back. What do those of you who have voted for her (I think that's Daisy and Epi) see that causes you to vote her over anyone else?

Kylemii: I didn't get an item last night

I didn’t catch that she was on vacation. But she caught in the middle of my PoE. I don’t know that he activity would change that for me. Especially given Soeedchucks answer about randomizing targets for missing power submissions.

[Kylemii]

i also... didn't even really think of myself as mafia in upick, i didn't need to change anything about my behavior or fake anything cus there was another mafia team and most of my teammates stayed out of the way enough that i didn't need to engage with them. i don't think i ever even talked to sloonei.

[Epignosis]

I still like the lapluie vote. She said specifically that she can't catch up. That doesn't preclude sending in Night actions, which doesn't take long to do. Look at the poll, and pick somebody. A MacDougall pick also gels with the idea that someone isn't paying close attention.

[juliets]

Thanks Epi, Daisy and Kyle.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

[Scotty]

That kills seem to be randomized if not sent in, it makes much more sense.

Lap is in the POE for basically everyone. I see nothing wrong with this lynch today

[ColinIsCool]

This lap lynch feels too easy.

[sprityo]

Look gang, we still have a whole 24 hours left yeah? Let’s not just settle for lapluie and waste the discussion time.

I’m fine with lapluie lynch, but where are we going after this? Or is this more a question for the daystart of day4?

[ColinIsCool]

Look gang, we still have a whole 24 hours left yeah? Let’s not just settle for lapluie and waste the discussion time.

I’m fine with lapluie lynch, but where are we going after this? Or is this more a question for the daystart of day4?

You think lapluie is the best option we’ve got?

[Scotty]

This lap lynch feels too easy.

lol

[Scotty]

Look gang, we still have a whole 24 hours left yeah? Let’s not just settle for lapluie and waste the discussion time.

I’m fine with lapluie lynch, but where are we going after this? Or is this more a question for the daystart of day4?

We win! Or if we don’t, we lynch Kyle!

Yay!

[ColinIsCool]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

[Epignosis]

This lap lynch feels too easy.

Any lynch people agree on is going to feel "too easy."

[Scotty]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

Yeah.



I can also see no one being bad and this whole thing was just a simulation on traveling through time

[ColinIsCool]

This entire game was devised by speed to have no scum so he can flawlessly study our town metas and wreck us in every game after

[Epignosis]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

And where do I go from there?

I get lapluie lynched. Vanish Spacedaisy.

Then I get sprityo lynched. Vanish Scotty.

It's then me, you, Kylemii, and Juliets.

How is that working out for me?

Bitches, I think ahead.

[ColinIsCool]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

And where do I go from there?

I get lapluie lynched. Vanish Spacedaisy.

Then I get sprityo lynched. Vanish Scotty.

It's then me, you, Kylemii, and Juliets.

How is that working out for me?

Bitches, I think ahead.

This is either one of those posts I’m not going to think about when the game is over, or one of those posts I’m going to think of right as I fall asleep that stop me from ever obtaining a modicum of peace.

[Scotty]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

And where do I go from there?

I get lapluie lynched. Vanish Spacedaisy.

Then I get sprityo lynched. Vanish Scotty.

It's then me, you, Kylemii, and Juliets.

How is that working out for me?

Bitches, I think ahead.

But...but that’s mafia.

Keeping basically townfirmed people alive makes sense when you imagine the mafia is trying to navigate 3 potential doctors.

Killed Quin, who was cop, killed one of the doctors yesterday.

I remember you poo-pooing the mafia for killing Mac last night, but I think it a great strategic kill.

You thinking ahead is killing someone every night. I don’t see why you’re patting yourself on the back here

[Epignosis]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

And where do I go from there?

I get lapluie lynched. Vanish Spacedaisy.

Then I get sprityo lynched. Vanish Scotty.

It's then me, you, Kylemii, and Juliets.

How is that working out for me?

Bitches, I think ahead.

This is either one of those posts I’m not going to think about when the game is over, or one of those posts I’m going to think of right as I fall asleep that stop me from ever obtaining a modicum of peace.

[Epignosis]

I could see lap being bad at this point buuuuut I could also tinfoil and see Epignosis pushing a narrative involving an inactive scumteam he doesn’t believe in and setting up for the world’s easiest mislynch of someone who isn’t even here

And where do I go from there?

I get lapluie lynched. Vanish Spacedaisy.

Then I get sprityo lynched. Vanish Scotty.

It's then me, you, Kylemii, and Juliets.

How is that working out for me?

Bitches, I think ahead.

But...but that’s mafia.

Keeping basically townfirmed people alive makes sense when you imagine the mafia is trying to navigate 3 potential doctors.

Killed Quin, who was cop, killed one of the doctors yesterday.

I remember you poo-pooing the mafia for killing Mac last night, but I think it a great strategic kill.

You thinking ahead is killing someone every night. I don’t see why you’re patting yourself on the back here

First of all, the civilians are playing poorly if NOBODY is going to track me, watch me, whatever me at any point. Let's get that out of the way.

I am an absolute strategist when I am evil. All of the "doctors" here are within the realm of lynching. Mac could be lynched. I could be lynched. You could be with effort (because you're Scotty ).

No, the move was ignorant.

[ColinIsCool]

I trust you like I trust Mac’s mother-in-law

[Epignosis]

I trust you like I trust Mac’s mother-in-law

You should trust women you sleep with.

[sprityo]

I trust you like I trust Mac’s mother-in-law

You should trust women you sleep with.

[speedchuck]

Colonialbob is available to replace Lapluie, albeit at low effort since he won't be around at certain times.

I am uncertain whether to do this or just let things run their course.

[ColinIsCool]

I trust you like I trust Mac’s mother-in-law

You should trust women you sleep with.

[Scotty]

I trust with the sleep I woman with
If ya know what I mean

[Epignosis]

Colonialbob is available to replace Lapluie, albeit at low effort since he won't be around at certain times.

I am uncertain whether to do this or just let things run their course.

The fact that you're asking confirms lapluie is bad. Let us lynch her.

[Epignosis]

I think doing so even ends this. Super.

[sprityo]

Colonialbob is available to replace Lapluie, albeit at low effort since he won't be around at certain times.

I am uncertain whether to do this or just let things run their course.

The fact that you're asking confirms lapluie is bad. Let us lynch her.

Flawed logic at its finest

[Epignosis]

Colonialbob is available to replace Lapluie, albeit at low effort since he won't be around at certain times.

I am uncertain whether to do this or just let things run their course.

The fact that you're asking confirms lapluie is bad. Let us lynch her.

Flawed logic at its finest

The fact that you just said "flawed logic at its finest" says plenty.

[Epignosis]

What is speedchuck's motivation at saying:

" I am uncertain whether to do this or just let things run their course. "

?

[Epignosis]

Especially when he has a replacement ready to go?

[Epignosis]

To say something has "run it's course" means it should be over with and it isn't.

I take that to mean this is over with but isn't because lapluie is still around.

Show of hands?