Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

Sup sacks. Sackdougall here to show you my sack.

[nutella]

Sup sacks. Sackdougall here to show you my sack.

Golden and Mac team up with Goldman Sachs and get gold in sacks

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

DDL keeps doing and saying mad suspicious shit so its like...is he bad or is he bad at being bad.

Dear Captain [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention], why are you saying stuff like this? Also if you are going to say this stuff, wouldn't it be better and more productive if you proved it? Also, I'm very concerned; it seems you have done 2 scum tells from my perspective, which is a conflict of interest. Please stop being scummy.

Kindest regards,

Owner Of A Lonely Heart, a fellow passenger abroad your ship.

P.S. Currently Epi and TH are associated scum reads, so my vote might just stay where it is. There's also a chance, that you're just the 3p, as a 3p would be more worried about their own life. I guess I also may have some thoughts about why you choose this crew.

Dear Mods/Co-mods,

Is there a timer somewhere that shows when the end of the day is?

Either way, thanks.

Dear Townspeople,

I like DDL, Glorfindel, Colin, and INH

I potentially like speedychuck, nutella, and Enrique.

I'm leaning scummy on DharmaHelper, Epi, TH, and nova.

Most everyone else, I do really have any thoughts on.

Sincerely.

Owner

Idk if this was the best time for this.

I hope even though I'm not too trusting of my captain; that there will still be opportunities to become friends.

Unfortunately, this is game, and there's just certain things, behaviors, or patterns that are just really hard for me to ignore.

I want to be on a ship, but I'm also worried how mad my captain will be when he reads this.

[Glorfindel]

DDL keeps doing and saying mad suspicious shit so its like...is he bad or is he bad at being bad.

Dear Captain @ DharmaHelper, why are you saying stuff like this? Also if you are going to say this stuff, wouldn't it be better and more productive if you proved it? Also, I'm very concerned; it seems you have done 2 scum tells from my perspective, which is a conflict of interest. Please stop being scummy.

Kindest regards,

Owner Of A Lonely Heart, a fellow passenger abroad your ship.

P.S. Currently Epi and TH are associated scum reads, so my vote might just stay where it is. There's also a chance, that you're just the 3p, as a 3p would be more worried about their own life. I guess I also may have some thoughts about why you choose this crew.

Dear Mods/Co-mods,

Is there a timer somewhere that shows when the end of the day is?

Either way, thanks.

Dear Townspeople,

I like DDL, Glorfindel, Colin, and INH

I potentially like speedychuck, nutella, and Enrique.

I'm leaning scummy on DharmaHelper, Epi, TH, and nova.

Most everyone else, I do really have any thoughts on.

Sincerely.

Owner

Idk if this was the best time for this.

I hope even though I'm not too trusting of my captain; that there will still be opportunities to become friends.

Unfortunately, this is game, and there's just certain things, behaviors, or patterns that are just really hard for me to ignore.

I want to be on a ship, but I'm also worried how mad my captain will be when he reads this.

Dear Owner,

If I’ve not said this to you before, welcome to The Syndicate You mightn’t know me but I know you from when I used play a lot at MU. I’m very happy that have joined us here and I look forward (probably naively) to reacquainting with you over the course of this game. Take care and best of luck!

[Golden]

Owner

I’m curious about the scumtells you think you see from DH. I’ve had quite town vibes from him to date.

[Golden]

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

Novas vote for me early, then late breaking of the tie in favour of DH, TH and Luna speaks to me of a specific strategy to lessen my chances of being captain.

Nova doesn’t know me that well and I don’t knownova that well. Nova also hasn’t particularly noted anything about me he found suspicious. To me, it feels like part of a strategy.

My guess is one of those three is scum with nova. Probably TH, since TH did a similar thing. Luna voted for me. I’ve liked DH but he did also not vote for me, and his rationale could have been deliberately to pocket me. But TH fits the bill better than DH.

Nova, this is also aimed at you for response despite being passive.

I also feel as though this day has been faaaaar too quiet. I approve of a mac vote as it stands, but he’s one of several that seem to be lurking in the shadows. Wilgy is another, has he done anything but call me out? Where’s inh? Where’s Colin?

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

Novas vote for me early, then late breaking of the tie in favour of DH, TH and Luna speaks to me of a specific strategy to lessen my chances of being captain.

Nova doesn’t know me that well and I don’t knownova that well. Nova also hasn’t particularly noted anything about me he found suspicious. To me, it feels like part of a strategy.

My guess is one of those three is scum with nova. Probably TH, since TH did a similar thing. Luna voted for me. I’ve liked DH but he did also not vote for me, and his rationale could have been deliberately to pocket me. But TH fits the bill better than DH.

Nova, this is also aimed at you for response despite being passive.

I also feel as though this day has been faaaaar too quiet. I approve of a mac vote as it stands, but he’s one of several that seem to be lurking in the shadows. Wilgy is another, has he done anything but call me out? Where’s inh? Where’s Colin?

I was expecting this a little earlier. Seen it coming with your two mention of my vote early on without actually engaging. Not a good look.

What is the strategy, you reckon? Also what are the motivations? I could have voted TH earlier, just like I could have voted any of the three of them earlier. If I didn't want you to become Captain, I could have easily broken the tie between you and Glorfindel and made him one.

I already explained how my vote process worked, and I don't have anything else to add to that. It feels like you're too hang up on tracking Captain votes, when I don't think it should be a main priority. Just like you were too hang up on being captain, one of the reasons you didn't get my vote. This reads like you trying to find suspcious stuff in behavior you don't understand. I don't believe you're being genuine with the way you've been dancing around with it.

You're bad

[novaselinenever]

I'll be on later, a few hours before EoD.

[MacDougall]

If anyone wants to lynch me cap'n they'll have to lynch me first

[Golden]

That’s a big load of baloney right there, nova.

1) I danced around nothing. I’ve been direct about what I’ve been seeing. It’s your choice whether to engage in my suspicions of you or not, I don’t have to ask a specific question of you or @mention you to get your attention. That’s a completely arbitrary standard you’ve decided to apply, just to paint me as not genuine.

2) The motivation is clear to me - to control who is on what crew, who’s available for a nk, who’s available for a lynch. I’m far less controllable. If I pick an entirely town crew, and prevent them being lynched, then I get a strong advantage over the mafia. If I pick well, I can effectively prevent myself being nked.

3) You say you saw it coming... I could tell. That’s why you came at me the way you did to begin with. I called you out and instead of addressing my suspicion, you went as hominem - going after my choice of grammar instead of the accusation. There’s nothing much to your reasoning for your votes. Your turn on me was because apparently you liked me early and liked me less later, but you didn’t manage to give a single reason for either of those things. You’ve been waiting for me to vote before you do much of anything, just so you can defend the vote instead of actually engaging in the original suspicion too deeply.

Your response post then is trying to make out like my logic doesn’t track when you’re all over the place.

I particularly like this sentence from yo: “you’re getting too hung up on the captain votes, when I don’t think it should be a priority.” Of course you wouldn’t think it should be a priority if you’re reading it down. But I hate that deeply. If you don’t think the mafia tried to manipulate that vote in some way... we’ll i just don’t believe you.

Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.

As for me wanting to be captain - on that one, at least, I’ll admit it’s NAI. I’d want it either way. But I wanted it here because of how badly day zero reeked of manipulation.

[Golden]

Lol at macs vote on me.

[MacDougall]

You've got to be scum eventually

[Golden]

You've got to be scum eventually

Sure. But I’m not this time. And you’re phoning it in, normally I at least expect your vote to come with a poke at me to get some kind of read on me. Why so passive?

You missed Courage. I was scum in that one.

[MacDougall]

Maybe it's because you touch yourself at night

[Golden]

Btw novas apparently been expecting me to come at him for ages and says I’m bad because I do but there’s no particular stated suspicion nor even a vote for me to back it up. Just attack as defence.

[MacDougall]

Btw your face is a steak

[Golden]

Mac I’m going to sleep now. But if there’s something you actually want me to address stop it here and I’ll deal with it in the morning.

We need some bite in this day. It’s drifting.

[novaselinenever]

That’s a big load of baloney right there, nova.

1) I danced around nothing. I’ve been direct about what I’ve been seeing. It’s your choice whether to engage in my suspicions of you or not, I don’t have to ask a specific question of you or @mention you to get your attention. That’s a completely arbitrary standard you’ve decided to apply, just to paint me as not genuine.

2) The motivation is clear to me - to control who is on what crew, who’s available for a nk, who’s available for a lynch. I’m far less controllable. If I pick an entirely town crew, and prevent them being lynched, then I get a strong advantage over the mafia. If I pick well, I can effectively prevent myself being nked.

3) You say you saw it coming... I could tell. That’s why you came at me the way you did to begin with. I called you out and instead of addressing my suspicion, you went as hominem - going after my choice of grammar instead of the accusation. There’s nothing much to your reasoning for your votes. Your turn on me was because apparently you liked me early and liked me less later, but you didn’t manage to give a single reason for either of those things. You’ve been waiting for me to vote before you do much of anything, just so you can defend the vote instead of actually engaging in the original suspicion too deeply.

Your response post then is trying to make out like my logic doesn’t track when you’re all over the place.

I particularly like this sentence from yo: “you’re getting too hung up on the captain votes, when I don’t think it should be a priority.” Of course you wouldn’t think it should be a priority if you’re reading it down. But I hate that deeply. If you don’t think the mafia tried to manipulate that vote in some way... we’ll i just don’t believe you.

Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.

As for me wanting to be captain - on that one, at least, I’ll admit it’s NAI. I’d want it either way. But I wanted it here because of how badly day zero reeked of manipulation.

1) Oh, you danced around it all right. I engaged your suspicions twice, and you've asked me questions every time. You dropped it every time afterwards. I can't do anything more than that.

2) Nice then riddle me this, why did I not break the tie between you and Glorfindel if you think me and my team were dreading having you as captain? While you're at it, elaborate on my motivation on voting you first, then voting for people with no votes, and finally going with 3 of the 5 tied.

I agree that it's weird but I don't agree that it is suspicious/bad. I think you're being pretty opportunistic trying to paint it as such, that's why I saw this coming after your 2 mentions of my votes.

3) Is explaining my thought process on how I voted, not addressing your suspicions? I would think that is one way to ease them, since you think there are ulterior motives behind them. Nah, I'm not going after your choice of grammar, you're just full of it.

I never said the Mafia never had tried to manipulate the votes, nor elect one of theirs. I said that what I did was in no way some grandiose manipulation, as you'd like to paint it. I think it's pretty dumb to think so.

Lol, yeah sure. The Day Zero mafia manipulation of captain votes, and Nova the bold. Thank god you're here to save us from it.

[novaselinenever]

Btw novas apparently been expecting me to come at him for ages and says I’m bad because I do but there’s no particular stated suspicion nor even a vote for me to back it up. Just attack as defence.

Pretty standard stuff.

I had a bad feeling about how you've been trying to paint my votes for captain. It read as you dancing around an opportunity, and trying to find suspicions where there are none. I wanted to see if you'd commit, and go for my lynch before I strike back.

You did. Bad move.

[novaselinenever]

All right, this time I'm going to sleep for real.

[MacDougall]

Too many puppies

[ColinIsCool]

I feel like a lot of the ongoing discussions are dead-ends. GTH I don't think DDL is bad, he's just being really clumsy lol. Mac is laying pretty low, but we did just start and I don't think his activity so far is indicative of alignment. Glorfindel is all over sig for what looks like nothing to me but... I remember Glorf's first game, and I believe the talk about his meta. sig has been fine.

Got a funny feeling about speedchuck but he hasn't been around a lot and I don't want to contribute to a possible pile-up. Leaving a placeholder vote on Colin for now for no good reason.

Enrique bad

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

Novas vote for me early, then late breaking of the tie in favour of DH, TH and Luna speaks to me of a specific strategy to lessen my chances of being captain.

Nova doesn’t know me that well and I don’t knownova that well. Nova also hasn’t particularly noted anything about me he found suspicious. To me, it feels like part of a strategy.

My guess is one of those three is scum with nova. Probably TH, since TH did a similar thing. Luna voted for me. I’ve liked DH but he did also not vote for me, and his rationale could have been deliberately to pocket me. But TH fits the bill better than DH.

Nova, this is also aimed at you for response despite being passive.

I also feel as though this day has been faaaaar too quiet. I approve of a mac vote as it stands, but he’s one of several that seem to be lurking in the shadows. Wilgy is another, has he done anything but call me out? Where’s inh? Where’s Colin?

I was at a GY!BE show last night and have been pretty busy in general, but I also have next to nothing to contribute so far.

[DrWilgy]

DrWilgy formally accepts his position on the banana

[ColinIsCool]

I kinda think the scum would have been less likely to campaign as captains because it might open them up to being lynched more easily (possibly, idk, that might not be an accurate understanding of the rules) but then again that might be me projecting my own feelings had I been in that position.

[Turnip Head]

Btw novas apparently been expecting me to come at him for ages and says I’m bad because I do but there’s no particular stated suspicion nor even a vote for me to back it up. Just attack as defence.

Pretty standard stuff.

I had a bad feeling about how you've been trying to paint my votes for captain. It read as you dancing around an opportunity, and trying to find suspicions where there are none. I wanted to see if you'd commit, and go for my lynch before I strike back.

You did. Bad move.

"Dancing around an opportunity" is a good way to put how Golden looks to me, too. Like he's chasing a victim card that doesn't really exist

[speedchuck]

I kinda think the scum would have been less likely to campaign as captains because it might open them up to being lynched more easily (possibly, idk, that might not be an accurate understanding of the rules) but then again that might be me projecting my own feelings had I been in that position.

Methinks you haven't an accurate understanding of the rules.

The captains either fail their mission, in which case they end up on the poll with their whole team

or

The captains succeed, and pick who from their ship hits the poll

or

The captain gets mutinied...

[Turnip Head]

Or the captain gets married and his friends never see him again.

[Lunalee]

DrWilgy formally accepts his position on the banana

[speedchuck]

Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.

I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, I've seen players that never do this. On the other hand, I'd seen it happen all of once. On the third hand, we have a whole paragraph of justification for the nova case ending with "it's WIFOM."

[ColinIsCool]

I kinda think the scum would have been less likely to campaign as captains because it might open them up to being lynched more easily (possibly, idk, that might not be an accurate understanding of the rules) but then again that might be me projecting my own feelings had I been in that position.

Methinks you haven't an accurate understanding of the rules.

The captains either fail their mission, in which case they end up on the poll with their whole team

or

The captains succeed, and pick who from their ship hits the poll

or

The captain gets mutinied...

Right, I guess I’m thinking that in the event of failure a captain may be a bigger target but that doesn’t really make sense, so nevermind!

[ColinIsCool]

I think Epi looks like he did as town in Retro. Golden as well but I think Nova is townish too. Guess what motherfuckers, I’ve vacillated back to calling everybody town again

[Turnip Head]

I wanna hear more from [mention]SokothQultuq[/mention]. He (she? ) seemed excited to play

[SokothQultuq]

That’s a big load of baloney right there, nova.

1) I danced around nothing. I’ve been direct about what I’ve been seeing. It’s your choice whether to engage in my suspicions of you or not, I don’t have to ask a specific question of you or @mention you to get your attention. That’s a completely arbitrary standard you’ve decided to apply, just to paint me as not genuine.

2) The motivation is clear to me - to control who is on what crew, who’s available for a nk, who’s available for a lynch. I’m far less controllable. If I pick an entirely town crew, and prevent them being lynched, then I get a strong advantage over the mafia. If I pick well, I can effectively prevent myself being nked.

3) You say you saw it coming... I could tell. That’s why you came at me the way you did to begin with. I called you out and instead of addressing my suspicion, you went as hominem - going after my choice of grammar instead of the accusation. There’s nothing much to your reasoning for your votes. Your turn on me was because apparently you liked me early and liked me less later, but you didn’t manage to give a single reason for either of those things. You’ve been waiting for me to vote before you do much of anything, just so you can defend the vote instead of actually engaging in the original suspicion too deeply.

Your response post then is trying to make out like my logic doesn’t track when you’re all over the place.

I particularly like this sentence from yo: “you’re getting too hung up on the captain votes, when I don’t think it should be a priority.” Of course you wouldn’t think it should be a priority if you’re reading it down. But I hate that deeply. If you don’t think the mafia tried to manipulate that vote in some way... we’ll i just don’t believe you.

Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.

As for me wanting to be captain - on that one, at least, I’ll admit it’s NAI. I’d want it either way. But I wanted it here because of how badly day zero reeked of manipulation.

Woah, shots fired! Some good information in there, pretty compelling.

[Turnip Head]

0_0

[SokothQultuq]

That’s a big load of baloney right there, nova.

1) I danced around nothing. I’ve been direct about what I’ve been seeing. It’s your choice whether to engage in my suspicions of you or not, I don’t have to ask a specific question of you or @mention you to get your attention. That’s a completely arbitrary standard you’ve decided to apply, just to paint me as not genuine.

2) The motivation is clear to me - to control who is on what crew, who’s available for a nk, who’s available for a lynch. I’m far less controllable. If I pick an entirely town crew, and prevent them being lynched, then I get a strong advantage over the mafia. If I pick well, I can effectively prevent myself being nked.

3) You say you saw it coming... I could tell. That’s why you came at me the way you did to begin with. I called you out and instead of addressing my suspicion, you went as hominem - going after my choice of grammar instead of the accusation. There’s nothing much to your reasoning for your votes. Your turn on me was because apparently you liked me early and liked me less later, but you didn’t manage to give a single reason for either of those things. You’ve been waiting for me to vote before you do much of anything, just so you can defend the vote instead of actually engaging in the original suspicion too deeply.

Your response post then is trying to make out like my logic doesn’t track when you’re all over the place.

I particularly like this sentence from yo: “you’re getting too hung up on the captain votes, when I don’t think it should be a priority.” Of course you wouldn’t think it should be a priority if you’re reading it down. But I hate that deeply. If you don’t think the mafia tried to manipulate that vote in some way... we’ll i just don’t believe you.

Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.

As for me wanting to be captain - on that one, at least, I’ll admit it’s NAI. I’d want it either way. But I wanted it here because of how badly day zero reeked of manipulation.

1) Oh, you danced around it all right. I engaged your suspicions twice, and you've asked me questions every time. You dropped it every time afterwards. I can't do anything more than that.

2) Nice then riddle me this, why did I not break the tie between you and Glorfindel if you think me and my team were dreading having you as captain? While you're at it, elaborate on my motivation on voting you first, then voting for people with no votes, and finally going with 3 of the 5 tied.

I agree that it's weird but I don't agree that it is suspicious/bad. I think you're being pretty opportunistic trying to paint it as such, that's why I saw this coming after your 2 mentions of my votes.

3) Is explaining my thought process on how I voted, not addressing your suspicions? I would think that is one way to ease them, since you think there are ulterior motives behind them. Nah, I'm not going after your choice of grammar, you're just full of it.

I never said the Mafia never had tried to manipulate the votes, nor elect one of theirs. I said that what I did was in no way some grandiose manipulation, as you'd like to paint it. I think it's pretty dumb to think so.

Lol, yeah sure. The Day Zero mafia manipulation of captain votes, and Nova the bold. Thank god you're here to save us from it.

Good Rebuttal. Golden was starting to have me convinced a little, but your response does give a lot to consider.
But it brings to mind a question still in my mind, would you vote for Glorf over Golden to set Glorf up as a Patsy to misdirect because of his track record of being a "Good guy"?

[speedchuck]

The thing that ruins this for me is that I also did roughly the same thing nova did, but I ended up changing my vote so that's okay I guess

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why don't you guys stop with this stealthy wagon testing and lynch me? Come on, make a glorious DDL D1 lynch. Haven't had one in 2018 yet I think. I wanna see who has the guts for it, because right now you all seem to lack it.

No, you may not campaign for your own lynch unless you refer a replacement to my crew.

I don't care about being lynched or not being lynched, I'm just trying to expose phony voters.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why don't you guys stop with this stealthy wagon testing and lynch me? Come on, make a glorious DDL D1 lynch. Haven't had one in 2018 yet I think. I wanna see who has the guts for it, because right now you all seem to lack it.

You're right, I don't.

I've badgered you plenty, but I've liked your responses. And I like the places you are looking (other than the speedchuck vote).

Then there's this post:

You know you need a very long break from mafia when people try to lynch you on Day 0 and you feel relieved.

I identify with this all too much. And while a post like this is very easy to make as mafia and is strictly speaking NAI (I mean, the emotion is likely equally real no matter what you are), I think I'd be far more likely to verbalise it if town. It's a kind of 'I don't have to worry about this game OR the impact on my meta' kind of post.

I haven't decided where I want my vote yet, but it's not on you (or glorfindel).

The Speedchuck vote was joke. A pretty good one which I'm annoyed you guys didn't follow up on.

And the point about needing a break is something I'm not sure about yet.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why don't you guys stop with this stealthy wagon testing and lynch me? Come on, make a glorious DDL D1 lynch. Haven't had one in 2018 yet I think. I wanna see who has the guts for it, because right now you all seem to lack it.

im scared

You should be.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also, I've been assuming everyone is vanilla - is this not the case?

It doesn't expressly say I'm vanilla on my role card, looking at it again. But it doesn't give me a role power either, just an occupation and a skill that doesn't mean much to me (I assume it will when we get a job). I was perhaps incorrectly assuming everyone was the same. Am I wrong?

Same here. I'm assuming the items are the actual abilities of this game.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I feel like a lot of the ongoing discussions are dead-ends. GTH I don't think DDL is bad, he's just being really clumsy lol. Mac is laying pretty low, but we did just start and I don't think his activity so far is indicative of alignment. Glorfindel is all over sig for what looks like nothing to me but... I remember Glorf's first game, and I believe the talk about his meta. sig has been fine.

Got a funny feeling about speedchuck but he hasn't been around a lot and I don't want to contribute to a possible pile-up. Leaving a placeholder vote on Colin for now for no good reason.

Enrique bad

Yeah.

It's all a bunch of salad.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Lunalee do you have any opinions about this game that are not restricted to the crew mechanic?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

That’s a big load of baloney right there, nova.

1) I danced around nothing. I’ve been direct about what I’ve been seeing. It’s your choice whether to engage in my suspicions of you or not, I don’t have to ask a specific question of you or @mention you to get your attention. That’s a completely arbitrary standard you’ve decided to apply, just to paint me as not genuine.

2) The motivation is clear to me - to control who is on what crew, who’s available for a nk, who’s available for a lynch. I’m far less controllable. If I pick an entirely town crew, and prevent them being lynched, then I get a strong advantage over the mafia. If I pick well, I can effectively prevent myself being nked.

3) You say you saw it coming... I could tell. That’s why you came at me the way you did to begin with. I called you out and instead of addressing my suspicion, you went as hominem - going after my choice of grammar instead of the accusation. There’s nothing much to your reasoning for your votes. Your turn on me was because apparently you liked me early and liked me less later, but you didn’t manage to give a single reason for either of those things. You’ve been waiting for me to vote before you do much of anything, just so you can defend the vote instead of actually engaging in the original suspicion too deeply.

Your response post then is trying to make out like my logic doesn’t track when you’re all over the place.

I particularly like this sentence from yo: “you’re getting too hung up on the captain votes, when I don’t think it should be a priority.” Of course you wouldn’t think it should be a priority if you’re reading it down. But I hate that deeply. If you don’t think the mafia tried to manipulate that vote in some way... we’ll i just don’t believe you.

Day zero and day one is where mafia slip and think they can get away with it. They protect their own, help each other out and pass it off as unimportant. The very fact you set out to overtly break the tie and then did it with absolutely no post history to back it up is part of why I find yours in particular the most suspicious - because what mafia would be so bold, huh? It has its own inherent wifom.

As for me wanting to be captain - on that one, at least, I’ll admit it’s NAI. I’d want it either way. But I wanted it here because of how badly day zero reeked of manipulation.

1) Oh, you danced around it all right. I engaged your suspicions twice, and you've asked me questions every time. You dropped it every time afterwards. I can't do anything more than that.

2) Nice then riddle me this, why did I not break the tie between you and Glorfindel if you think me and my team were dreading having you as captain? While you're at it, elaborate on my motivation on voting you first, then voting for people with no votes, and finally going with 3 of the 5 tied.

I agree that it's weird but I don't agree that it is suspicious/bad. I think you're being pretty opportunistic trying to paint it as such, that's why I saw this coming after your 2 mentions of my votes.

3) Is explaining my thought process on how I voted, not addressing your suspicions? I would think that is one way to ease them, since you think there are ulterior motives behind them. Nah, I'm not going after your choice of grammar, you're just full of it.

I never said the Mafia never had tried to manipulate the votes, nor elect one of theirs. I said that what I did was in no way some grandiose manipulation, as you'd like to paint it. I think it's pretty dumb to think so.

Lol, yeah sure. The Day Zero mafia manipulation of captain votes, and Nova the bold. Thank god you're here to save us from it.

Golden's point isn't that mafia made some grandiose manipulation, it's that they just straight up voted to put their teammates on the head of crews, and that you did exactly that. There's nothing grandiose in it, it's just plain old teammate helping.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Lunalee do you have any opinions about this game that are not restricted to the crew mechanic?

Ok I'll be honest I'm not trying to start a fight with you or anything and I respect you as a captain. So sorry for being blunt.

But I'm really trying to prioritize the magia game at hand.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

EBWOP: mafia

[Epignosis]

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[Turnip Head]

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Why does this look like a hitlist git back in the kitchen

[DharmaHelper]

DDL keeps doing and saying mad suspicious shit so its like...is he bad or is he bad at being bad.

Dear Captain DharmaHelper, why are you saying stuff like this? Also if you are going to say this stuff, wouldn't it be better and more productive if you proved it? Also, I'm very concerned; it seems you have done 2 scum tells from my perspective, which is a conflict of interest. Please stop being scummy.

Kindest regards,

Owner Of A Lonely Heart, a fellow passenger abroad your

You just did what you think I just did, so I'm not too concerned. Also, I've explained at least once why I find DDL suspicious and several other people have pointed out suspicious shit he's done.

I dunno. Seems like you are reaching a bit here.

[DharmaHelper]

DDL keeps doing and saying mad suspicious shit so its like...is he bad or is he bad at being bad.

Dear Captain DharmaHelper, why are you saying stuff like this? Also if you are going to say this stuff, wouldn't it be better and more productive if you proved it? Also, I'm very concerned; it seems you have done 2 scum tells from my perspective, which is a conflict of interest. Please stop being scummy.

Kindest regards,

Owner Of A Lonely Heart, a fellow passenger abroad your

You just did what you think I just did, so I'm not too concerned. Also, I've explained at least once why I find DDL suspicious and several other people have pointed out suspicious shit he's done.

I dunno. Seems like you are reaching a bit here.

He says before he realizes the post he's talking about is one he wrote during a fever and forgot to post.

Anyway I'll go put together why I think DDL is bad here in a sec. Or maybe I'll wait till later. I'm not the boss of me.