Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

When did it change from a 9:30 ending to a 10:30 one?

[Lunalee]

I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe here. How are people reading the same thread I am and thinking DDL is the most suspicious player and ignoring speedchuck? The Luna train I can sort of understand a little more, but am I the only one who thinks speed sounds off?

You're not alone. I'm beginning to suspect speed as well.

Let me guess. You're suspecting me because I'm defending you.

that's part of it, yeah.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Fyi literally nothing meaningful happened in our crew last night and we don't have an internal conflict.

The conflict is what you can all see here.

[SokothQultuq]

Oh, the only people actually voting for DDL are DH, Luna, and Speed. That makes sense. I'm uncomfortable with the lazy jumpers on wilgy and Luna rn. I'm uncomfortable with sokoth's last post for sure.

Why, what makes you feel uncomfortable about it?

[nutella]

You know after thinking about it further. I can't really drop the hammer on Wilgy just because of lack of Activity and what I have just yet. I think I'll keep him on my list of suspects and : [VOTE: LUNA] for now.

I'll keep an eye on the thread to see if anyone can give me anything that might swing my vote.

So what makes the case on luna better?

For me its substance. She's got more posts to read into. She's kind of been all over the place from the get go in my opinion. But her behavior towards DDL just to dump them mainly based on what I feel is kind of very loose information. I'm not convinced that DDL is bad. And booting them from the crew kind of feels like a gambit to show poise. Get rid of the dead weight, but it also hurts her crew and her chances. So I donno. She's the only one that really stands out other than Wilgy and to me no activity isnt' enough.

"Only one that stands out" oooof that's the most classic bullshit right there.

[VOTE: sokoth] aubergine who's with me? if nobody will join me on speed this feels just as good

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
To attempt a "save my butt" tie. Also, I could see DrWilgy possibly being scum, since he too was after Golden.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

DH was the last to give his skill stats in our nightly discussion, so that kind of worried me a little bit. [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention]

[nutella]

I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe here. How are people reading the same thread I am and thinking DDL is the most suspicious player and ignoring speedchuck? The Luna train I can sort of understand a little more, but am I the only one who thinks speed sounds off?

Like how is he different? Not sure if you'll have enough time to explain this though.

I don't know if I can explain it right now and you haven't played much with him have you? He just has a weird stiffness to his tone that doesn't smell of genuine hunting town speed. It's like.... idk not quite like he's trying too hard, but he's trying in the wrong way.

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
To attempt a "save my butt" tie. Also, I could see DrWilgy possibly being scum, since he too was after Golden.

Also DrWilgy didn't check in with the crew last night. Not sure if that means anything though.

[DharmaHelper]

DH was the last to give his skill stats in our nightly discussion, so that kind of worried me a little bit. @DharmaHelper

Fucks sake I get it.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe here. How are people reading the same thread I am and thinking DDL is the most suspicious player and ignoring speedchuck? The Luna train I can sort of understand a little more, but am I the only one who thinks speed sounds off?

Like how is he different? Not sure if you'll have enough time to explain this though.

I don't know if I can explain it right now and you haven't played much with him have you? He just has a weird stiffness to his tone that doesn't smell of genuine hunting town speed. It's like.... idk not quite like he's trying too hard, but he's trying in the wrong way.

I don't believe I have played with him before, unless he has maybe played elsewhere. Would you say he's more easy going as town? or is that still not quite right?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

DH was the last to give his skill stats in our nightly discussion, so that kind of worried me a little bit. @DharmaHelper

Fucks sake I get it.

Sorry... *hides in the corner* My captain seems mad at me.

Spoiler: show

[DFaraday]

Overall I feel worse about Luna than Sokoth. At least I can see where Luna is coming from in her defense, so I'm going to [VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine.

I'm really not liking the Wilgy votes. Has anyone even made a case on him beyond his absence?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Not feeling this Sokoth thing. Smells like a counterwagon to something.

[Lunalee]

I hate this 3 way tie, and am tempted to move my vote to Sokoth, but I don't know the case against them.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

*Owner puts some music on*

[Golden]

Unfortunately, my work pc has decided to block the syndicate today. Hopefully it isn’t permanent.

I’ve done what I can, a flick back. Not a deep dive.

I don’t like a DDL lynch
Unless they’re bad together, speeds read of Luna is meaningful to me. It doesn’t matter what his alignment is, he’d want to read her as accurately as possible to avoid suspicion from her. So I don’t love a Luna lynch.

I’d like it to go elsewhere. Wilgy and TH are still my primary choices. Wilgy isn’t really around, but I disliked his day one. His approach to me felt forced and fake. He said he felt I should be collaborating with him to solve the game... but I don’t see that kind of wilgy at all here. But I don’t love voting him in his absence either. TH isn’t really in the starting blocks.

Sokoth engages with both sides of the me/nova argument and I can see the case here. He approached the situation with a mindset that approached assuming it was wolf/town. This makes sense of nova is actually bad; but it also makes sense if he was setting up a false dilemma. But I don’t feel informed here and haven’t found real time to go do the iso.

In the end my vote is a matter of degrees. I’ll use it against someone I have suspicions on... wilgy, Sokoth or TH... but probably just as much in protection of lynches I’m not on board with.

[Golden]

It’s wilgy for now, but even as I was typing I see Sokoth is in the lead, which makes me feel much more relaxed than I was before.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The DDL lynch melted super fast. Only DH is still on it.

Yeah this is bullshit. One of WIlgy or Luna is bad and people are trying to save them.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

The votes on Soko have formed a lot faster than the ones on Luna, so would that make Soko more likely town? Or does The Syndicate have a different meta or culture around fast wagons forming (being more likely on townies)?

[DharmaHelper]

Lol last time I let one of my crew get lynched last minute some bad shit happened. Voting Luna

[Golden]

Overall I feel worse about Luna than Sokoth. At least I can see where Luna is coming from in her defense, so I'm going to [VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine.

I'm really not liking the Wilgy votes. Has anyone even made a case on him beyond his absence?

What even is this? You feel worse about Luna but you vote the person you feel better about? Doesn’t compute.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The votes on Soko have formed a lot faster than the ones on Luna, so would that make Soko more likely town? Or does The Syndicate have a different meta or culture around fast wagons forming (being more likely on townies)?

We are keen on changing super fast near the end, but it's hard to make a definite conclusion about which one is the civ or bad wagons.

I'm making bold guesses here.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

5 votes on Sokoth. Someone jumped without saying anything.

ALL ABOARD THE DAMAGE CONTROL TRAIN

[DharmaHelper]

Yeah not to sound like a fucking revolutionary galaxy brain here but "Wati until 30 minutes before the poll closes and fuck around voting for whoever" doesn't sound like a winning strategy.

[DFaraday]

Overall I feel worse about Luna than Sokoth. At least I can see where Luna is coming from in her defense, so I'm going to [VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine.

I'm really not liking the Wilgy votes. Has anyone even made a case on him beyond his absence?

What even is this? You feel worse about Luna but you vote the person you feel better about? Doesn’t compute.

I meant it the other way around, not sure how I messed that up. Luna's defense makes some sense to me, Sokoth felt like he was avoiding actually engaging the points made against him.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

The DDL lynch melted super fast. Only DH is still on it.

Yeah this is bullshit. One of WIlgy or Luna is bad and people are trying to save them.

But Luna is on Wigly. So they probably wouldn't be together. unless Luna is vote that way for credit, but even then you probably still wouldn't buss a slot this early in the game if you didn't have to.

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine

Luna thinks me defending her is a scumtell because I often defend townies that are likely to get lynched as scum.

[speedchuck]

5 votes on Sokoth. Someone jumped without saying anything.

ALL ABOARD THE DAMAGE CONTROL TRAIN

Me. I tried posting, then had to leave my PC, and it didn't go through because linki

[Golden]

The thing I like least about Luna is her choice to fire DDL. Why fire the guy you’re voting to lynch? It was reactive in a way that felt like she didn’t want the attention of sticking her neck out.

But I value speedchuck a vouch higher at this stage

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine

Luna thinks me defending her is a scumtell because I often defend townies that are likely to get lynched as scum.

You were not the fifth one. I think it was TH.

[Kylemii]

So its time for me to weigh in I guess. I've been going over everyones that's on the Vote's posts. Here is my two cents:

Glorf - While I had initial suspicions of him initially, which was primarily founded on this focus of his meta. I do believe that he very well is a good player and not a baddie. He's been defensive of players, and his Captain and has only really lashed out when one of those was put in the hot seat. So I've swung this vote from red to green.

DDL - Though most people seem to think DDL is a baddie, I'm not entirely convinced. I've seen it swing either way so I am on the ropes with DDL but the way that DDL has reacted even despite his being ejected from his crew. This does not scream bad to me. So I'm again swinging my thoughts from Badish to good.

DrWilgy - Lurking in the shadows. Very low activity from what I've seen but most of what they have posted has not really carried much substance. I suppose the real life reason for inactivity should be considered. I'm on the ropes here. Earlier on they were pretty aggresive with some comments. One thing that stood out to me and still rings is "My Votes have gone to preventing a cowered from being Captain, I'll hold my 4th". This still resonates with me and has pushed my vote over to the bad side. I'm still curious why Wilgy would label Golden a Cowered as I Believe that is where that comment was directed. So... Yeah. And Silence for a long period from the 9th up until...?

DFaraday - Not very active. Mostly responsive to post but nothing that really stands out to me.

Kylemii - Wizard Stuff? Is this some kind of misdirect and avoidance of the Topics at hand? Has not really been helpful but has not hurt. Someone I'm watching to see where this goes as we move on. Leaning Bad.

Luna - Reading through your posts I didn't honestly see anything that stood out as bad up until you ejected DDL from your crew. I'm still not sure I understand why. I thought your handling of your crew pointed to good, but your comments to take in "Jaded" crew. Then when Challenged on it, you 180'ed and said it was a joke. Kind of Strange to me. Those two points combined have me thinking you hail from the dark side of things.

Lapluie... ? Not really here? LOL

Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to know why you threw Mac Under the bus.

SpeedChuck - This suggestion to Lynch ships that have more crew while a good tactic for a win, I'm not sure if I can tell if it was a "Bad' or "Good" Suggestion. It could be both. Mostly seems to play devils advocate between posts.

This is all I've got so far from reading through things and following. Some of the most recent posts are not really analyized here. But yeah. Observations.

So I'm leaning on DrWilgy, and Luna to be honest. I would like other opinions on why I shouldn't vote for one of them or which one I should over the other?

what is it about me in particular that has you leaning bad on me aside from the wizard stuff? why don't you mention it again before or after this post or include me in the list of players you'd vote for?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

The votes on Soko have formed a lot faster than the ones on Luna, so would that make Soko more likely town? Or does The Syndicate have a different meta or culture around fast wagons forming (being more likely on townies)?

We are keen on changing super fast near the end, but it's hard to make a definite conclusion about which one is the civ or bad wagons.

I'm making bold guesses here.

Yeah, this is a trend on a lot of sites. I guess I can see why Dizzy enjoys playing on here. He likes forming end of the day shenanigans.

[Kylemii]

[mention]SokothQultuq[/mention] have we played together before?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The DDL lynch melted super fast. Only DH is still on it.

Yeah this is bullshit. One of WIlgy or Luna is bad and people are trying to save them.

But Luna is on Wigly. So they probably wouldn't be together. unless Luna is vote that way for credit, but even then you probably still wouldn't buss a slot this early in the game if you didn't have to.

Luna is in self-defense city, she could change her vote to Sokoth thirty minutes from now and nobody would be allowed to say anything.

[nutella]

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine

Luna thinks me defending her is a scumtell because I often defend townies that are likely to get lynched as scum.

You were not the fifth one. I think it was TH.

No, TH was on before me. Speed was last I think, or DF

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine

Luna thinks me defending her is a scumtell because I often defend townies that are likely to get lynched as scum.

You were not the fifth one. I think it was TH.

No, TH was on before me. Speed was last I think, or DF

Fuck I'm lost.

[Kylemii]

is sokoth known for writing giant ass 2000 word essays as defenses regularly? is it IA

[Golden]

is sokoth known for writing giant ass 2000 word essays as defenses regularly? is it IA

He doesn’t have a huge mafia history as far as I’m aware. I hosted him in BSG and haven’t played with him before. BSG could be a good reference point for his town behaviour.

[Lunalee]

The DDL lynch melted super fast. Only DH is still on it.

Yeah this is bullshit. One of WIlgy or Luna is bad and people are trying to save them.

But Luna is on Wigly. So they probably wouldn't be together. unless Luna is vote that way for credit, but even then you probably still wouldn't buss a slot this early in the game if you didn't have to.

Luna is in self-defense city, she could change her vote to Sokoth thirty minutes from now and nobody would be allowed to say anything.

True that. If you people want to move your votes off of me I will place a rational vote.

[speedchuck]

True that. If you people want to move your votes off of me I will place a rational vote.

For whom?

[novaselinenever]

Well, it doesn't feel so lonely anymore on the Sokoth wagon

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Well, it doesn't feel so lonely anymore on the Sokoth wagon

No, you get to be the proud founder of the quickest counter-wagon in the game.

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
To attempt a "save my butt" tie. Also, I could see DrWilgy possibly being scum, since he too was after Golden.

What do you mean by "he too"?

[Golden]

This vote feels like a hostage situation lol

[novaselinenever]

Well, it doesn't feel so lonely anymore on the Sokoth wagon

No, you get to be the proud founder of the quickest counter-wagon in the game.

It's a weird one. I haven't seen anyone address him with the exception of DFaraday and Colin, who made some remarks about his sloppy defense.

I'm not sure how to feel for now.

[Kylemii]

theres nothing in particular from sokoths iso that looks like it could most often come from a civ. their long defense posts seem almost theatrical at points. i need context for their regular behavior to know if this is weird or just how they are

[Kylemii]

what is BSG? give me a link and i will give to you..... my eternal love

[novaselinenever]

DFaraday mentioned him a few times. However, he claims feeling worse about Luna but he's voting Sokoth.

[Golden]

what is BSG? give me a link and i will give to you..... my eternal love

I can’t when I only have phone access.

Battlestar galactica, past full job.