WWE MAFIA - Day 14

#2051

Well Hedgeowl, apparently my magic has mesmerized A Person, who voted without posting.

#2052

#2053

I also voted without posting but I only did it because I thought I'd pretend I'd been silenced.

#2054

Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?

#2055

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Lizzy wrote:Rob - chur! butt would you like to... elaborate?
Just know that trying to kill me could be hazardous to one's health.
Well, thanks to you Epi, I now have the first two votes. Explain to me how this isn't a bandwagon you started? Sadly, Lizzy and Elo didn't even have good reasons, but you provided an excellent choice for people to latch onto if they need an easy vote.
While I am flattered that you think I have an 18 in charisma and a back pocket full of charm scrolls, I have but one vote. That's it. I don't control what anyone else thinks or what anyone else does.

Hedgeowl wrote:Please explain to me what possible baddie you think I actually could be, because I am not alone in thinking you had a pretty weak "case" on me.
Then these people won't vote for you and they'll vote for someone else. That's how this thing works.

You still have not made a case as to whether I am an SK, AH, or Corp. Why is that?

Hedgeowl wrote:I most definitely would not have killed Dom (He was actually defending me and noted this isn't my baddie style).
I know you didn't try to kill Dom. This is what lack of sleep will do.

Hedgeowl wrote:He is 100% correct and several others in this game who have had baddie BTSC with me know how I avoid/ignore Epi as much as possible to not draw attention to myself.
The problem with this defense lies in your second post. The one where you said you would "try a different tactic." In that post, you implicitly asked us to not consider previous Hedgeowl styles and methods. You can't have it both ways.

The problem with your reasoning is that you assume we are all 100% consistent. Yes, "a tactic" as in one, not my entire game. You often look for inconsistencies in someone's game, but guess what, my baddie game is way more consistent because I am careful, I take time and I don't post a ton. I have only been lynched once as a baddie based purely on thread evidence, and that was at the very end of Supernatural. As a civ I am not reading and examine my posts or worrying of I change my mind. I am generally inconsistent, which seems to actually be your whole issue with me.

Hedgeowl wrote:Several people seem to trust Epi and maybe I would more if I finished the 20 pages I have to catch up, and he wasn't working really hard to get me lynched. However, based on what he has said about his survival, the odds do seem to be in his favor that he is actually a civ when looking at roles.

So one civ to a possible other, keep me alive yo!
As I implied, I don't have that power. I have 5% of that power.

Words are quite powerful Mr. English Teacher. 3 people have voted for me because of you. And the last one didn't even bother to give a reason. You basically opened the door and said, "Here ya go baddies, lynch away."

Linki - 4 people now. So if everyone votes for me I am either a civ or the SK. But damn this would have been a shitty SK game I played.

#2056

Vompatti wrote:I also voted without posting but I only did it because I thought I'd pretend I'd been silenced.

so you haven't been?

#2057

Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?

Well you deflected and killed one of them so thanks.

#2058

Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?
Well you deflected and killed one of them so thanks.

You really, really, do give me too much credit for what goes on.

#2059

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?
Well you deflected and killed one of them so thanks.
You really, really, do give me too much credit for what goes on.

Yeah, that might not have been your fault, but Dom is still dead.

#2060

A Person wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I also voted without posting but I only did it because I thought I'd pretend I'd been silenced.
so you haven't been?

Not at all.

#2061

Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?

Well IDK about Hedgie but I am voting either SVS or Devin most likely.

#2062

Vompatti wrote:
A Person wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I also voted without posting but I only did it because I thought I'd pretend I'd been silenced.
so you haven't been?
Not at all.

ppppopj

#2063

Hedgeowl wrote:You still have not made a case as to whether I am an SK, AH, or Corp. Why is that?

Why does one need to make a case regarding specific alignment? No one made a specific case on MP. Are you new here?

Hedgeowl wrote: The problem with your reasoning is that you assume we are all 100% consistent.

I assume nothing. I go by what people say and I judge them accordingly.

Hedgeowl wrote: Yes, "a tactic" as in one, not my entire game. You often look for inconsistencies in someone's game, but guess what, my baddie game is way more consistent because I am careful, I take time and I don't post a ton.I assume nothing. I go by what people say and judge them accordingly.

No, I DON'T look for inconsistencies in someone's game. Other people do that. I'm a little tired of you assuming what I'm thinking or what I do. No, I wasn't trying to save MP, and no, I don't look for inconsistencies in people's games. That shit is EASILY faked and hidden behind.

There is one exception, and I'm married to her.

Hedgeowl wrote: I have only been lynched once as a baddie based purely on thread evidence, and that was at the very end of Supernatural. As a civ I am not reading and examine my posts or worrying of I change my mind. I am generally inconsistent, which seems to actually be your whole issue with me.

So what? I don't care what you do during a game. I don't care what anyone does. That's because I don't "look for inconsistencies in someones game."

I haven't voted for you. There are people who have voted for you. What are their reasons? Why are they voting for you out of the woodwork. Why aren't you actually lynching bad guys instead of making a decalist, voting according to it once (without discoursing with me) and then voting for a no-poster to save a bad guy.

You want to avoid and ignore me when you are bad. You did that Day 3, and voted for me.

#2064

kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?
Well IDK about Hedgie but I am voting either SVS or Devin most likely.

Devin I could see, I am 100% behind you there. matter of fact~

*Votes Devin*

Could you explain the part where you might vote me? You have said this before, but are not really saying why.

#2065

My God people. We have another literal day to vote. Is Dick Clark coming over to help you with your celebration? I'd like to hear more.

#2066

S~V~S wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?
Well IDK about Hedgie but I am voting either SVS or Devin most likely.
Devin I could see, I am 100% behind you there. matter of fact~

*Votes Devin*

Could you explain the part where you might vote me? You have said this before, but are not really saying why.

Well I stated before that I think your suspicion on Mongoose, specifically about her confusing the 2 threads was something that made no sense and felt like you were just taking advantage of her. You replied with something, but I forget what you said. But aside from that I remember not liking your vote for MP (now that is not exactly the concern since he was scum) but what you followed was with a "I just can't win" statement and I find those statements scummy. I think you made other similar statements but can't say because I am not 100% sure. At the time I let this slip and some of MP's begging comments because you both told me that these were not scummy statements on this site, or something like that. Since obviously MP's was I am thinking there is a big possibility that yours are scummy too.

Why are you suspicion of Devin again?

#2067

My grammar isn't that bad, BTW. I should probably reread posts before posting them but I am so in the moment when playing mafia. Lol

#2068

Epignosis wrote:My God people. We have another literal day to vote. Is Dick Clark coming over to help you with your celebration? I'd like to hear more.

The eagerness is off the chats!

#2069

OMG. CHARTS.

#2070

Actually, i am rather busy tomorrow, Epi. And I thought Devin was bad before MP turned up bad. MP turning up bad did not make me feel better about him, tbh.

Linki @K4J~ I have been suspicious of Devin all along; at first it was a day one ping, but then when he did that thing where he kissed up to Epi, and said he would vote as Epi did, then voted BEFORE him struck me as a baddie tactic; having MP vouch for him and attack me every time I mentioned him and then turning up bad himself did NOT make Devin look better to me. And if you are going to vote people for reasons based on things you don't even remember or bother to look up, well, not sure what to say here.

i said at least a dozen times why i suspected Mongoose. I thought she was trying to evade answering a direct question in a game with a lie detector by constantly deflecting to OT. I have even speculated since then that perhaps she dislikes confrontation, and uses that mechanism to avoid it.

#2071

S~V~S wrote:Actually, i am rather busy tomorrow, Epi. And I thought Devin was bad before MP turned up bad. MP turning up bad did not make me feel better about him, tbh.

Linki @K4J~ I have been suspicious of Devin all along; at first it was a day one ping, but then when he did that thing where he kissed up to Epi, and said he would vote as Epi did, then voted BEFORE him struck me as a baddie tactic; having MP vouch for him and attack me every time I mentioned him and then turning up bad himself did NOT make Devin look better to me. And if you are going to vote people for reasons based on things you don't even remember or bother to look up, well, not sure what to say here.

i said at least a dozen times why i suspected Mongoose. I thought she was trying to evade answering a direct question in a game with a lie detector by constantly deflecting to OT. I have even speculated since then that perhaps she dislikes confrontation, and uses that mechanism to avoid it.

Just because I do not look up one thing such as a response to my suspicion does not mean it is not valid. I didn't mention you thinking she was trying to be OT because you have a reason, but if you consider the thread mix-up as to fall under this excuse then I don't think it is a good reason and I still do not like it.

#2072

kneel4justice wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Voted Vomps. He voted himself too so I am assuming he wants to be lynched.
This is such an easy vote. You do not have to do any kind of scumhunting at all to vote for Vomps. At least TH provided a bit more reasoning than you did.
If you were truly assuming he wanted to be lynched, which I don't think you are (I think you're just trying to show your disapproval for his gameplay), then you'd consider the fact that scum do not want to be lynched.
Agreed here.

I'm torn because I understand the metagaming reasons to vote Vomps out (if you're not being a helpful civvie, why even play?), BUT, wrathofgod still has not even posted once and no one is even talking about her. Why not vote there either? And then add in the reasons you state above; it just removes all accountability.

Vomps is just as statistically likely to be baddie as anyone else playing, but I just get the feeling he hasn't really invested himself (yet) in this game, so he's making himself an easy target. Whether he's doing it to fuck with all of us because he's baddie or whether he's just doing it because he's a lost civvie who loves being zany, I do not know, and it's always so hard to tell with him. I feel he is being especially more elusive this game for some reason, but maybe it's because he's playing two games at once and there's a bunch of people he doesn't know. Now that I think about it, I do notice he tends to come out of his shell and play a bit more traditionally when he knows the players quite well and when it's a smaller group, but... even then, there's sometimes not at all a method to his madness.

Anyway, rambling done. What are you thinking, K4J; where's your vote going for sure, do you know?

I really want to vote S~V~S... honestly, she's still my #1. But I really hate spread out votes because they open votes up to baddie manipulation and we already have a spread vote here AND I like discussing out suspicions with others to see what they are thinking AND I am just now beginning to consider I may be wrong, so... you going to vote S~V~S or someone else?

I think I still will, but I'm trying to consider all of the options. There are a few others that have acted in ways that have proven very possibly worthy of votes, IMO (Russ comes to mind).
I think that I want to vote for Russ. I'm nervous, I like to be a lot more sure but obviously that is not going to happen this game since I do not know the majority of players. I am not sure how people operate and think on the sidelines here, so I can't really dig as deep as I want to with my suspicion. If that makes any sense...probably not.

Sorsha's post makes me think she might be bad, but I don't think it's enough to vote for her.
SVS is someone I am contemplating but her Lie Detector stuff does make sense. I really just do not know because I wasn't paying a lot of attention to Mongoose because I didn't see anything suspicious jumping out at me while others were just going on and on, I was confused and focused elsewhere. So I have no idea if she really did what SVS is saying.

As a matter of fact, you even commented on it one of the dozen or so times i have explained it, how it made sense.

#2073

It was not the thread mix up, it was a day or two before that. I have never said it was the thread mix up.

#2074

It was when i was trying to get to her to commit on her opinion of Epignosis.

#2075

on page 22 of my 52 page catsup - only 30 more pages to go! :l

#2076

bea wrote:on page 22 of my 52 page catsup - only 30 more pages to go! :l

#2077

S~V~S- assume Devin isn't in this. What are you thinking re: The Hedged oOne?

#2078

S~V~S wrote:It was not the thread mix up, it was a day or two before that. I have never said it was the thread mix up.

During the mix-up, I thought your posts were in disbelief, maybe I mixed up someone else directly addressing it, but I still read your posts as suspicious.

#2079

Epignosis wrote:S~V~S- assume Devin isn't in this. What are you thinking re: The Hedged oOne?

I think Hedgie is in a rough place. While it is possible that the killer just held off in order to frame someone, it is unlikely, and I do think she would have tried to kill you. If anything, reading her recent posts, she sounds annoyed that Dom died instead of you.

Linki, my posts were in disbelief during the mix up, I am one of the Admins here, and what she was describing was impossible from a tech standpoint. So i was trying to be polite, but i WAS getting exasperated, lol. My suspicion of her was from a day or two before that, I was trying to ask her a direct questiona and she kept OTing with someone. Two different incidents.

#2080

All right. What do you think of her taking on four votes early?

#2081

That I am not sure about. You say Elo is civ; I have no impression of her either way. AP & Vomp are enigmas to me, and Lizzy fluctuates between enigmaness & playing with the rest of us, if you see my meaning. And some of her remarks today regarding hedge have been on point and thought provoking, and i can see her point. She has a way with points

#2082

It could be that AP & Vomp are following Lizzy, as she is obviously paying attention.

#2083

In a rare case, S~V~S I trust you. I don't think you have BTSC.

Eloh isn't on a team. I can tell. She could be independent mind you, but she doesn't have a partner.

AP and Vomp could be killed and I wouldn't bat an eye. I'm sorry if that's cold, but if they want to be enigmas, then they should be treated like enigmas.

I think Lizzy is rotten.

#2084

Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

#2085

Epignosis wrote:In a rare case, S~V~S I trust you. I don't think you have BTSC.

Eloh isn't on a team. I can tell. She could be independent mind you, but she doesn't have a partner.

AP and Vomp could be killed and I wouldn't bat an eye. I'm sorry if that's cold, but if they want to be enigmas, then they should be treated like enigmas.

I think Lizzy is rotten.

And i think Lizzy is astute, which does not preclude other adjectives. So with 4 votes on Hedge, and a defensive "leave me alone or i am gonna hold my breath till i turn blue" frustration vote for Devin :whistle: what do you propose?

#2086

Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

And why won't you vote for him?

#2087

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much
And why won't you vote for him?

I very well might. Some of us don't have hot plans tomorrow, so I don't need to vote early, plus I think I may need to vote to save myself.

#2088

Matt/Vomperdoodle:

I'd feel way better about you guys (and subsequently Lizzybean) if you guys would elucidate.

#2089

Mongoose wrote:Matt/Vomperdoodle:

I'd feel way better about you guys (and subsequently Lizzybean) if you guys would elucidate.

And I owe you an apology.

#2090

Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much
And why won't you vote for him?
I very well might. Some of us don't have hot plans tomorrow, so I don't need to vote early, plus I think I may need to vote to save myself.

If you vote for bird RIGHT NOW. I will vote for him too.

#2091

Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Matt/Vomperdoodle:

I'd feel way better about you guys (and subsequently Lizzybean) if you guys would elucidate.
And I owe you an apology.

No worries, hoss.

#2092

We need

smiley

#2093

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much
And why won't you vote for him?
I very well might. Some of us don't have hot plans tomorrow, so I don't need to vote early, plus I think I may need to vote to save myself.
If you vote for bird RIGHT NOW. I will vote for him too.

Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.

#2094

Hedgeowl wrote:Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.

Why does this matter to you? You voted for me with no interaction. And you voted for wrathofgod who hadn't posted at all.

Why wait for bird to talk? Aren't you afraid his magical syllables that he strings together might somehow influence you?

#2095

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.
Why does this matter to you? You voted for me with no interaction. And you voted for wrathofgod who hadn't posted at all.

Why wait for bird to talk? Aren't you afraid his magical syllables that he strings together might somehow influence you?

It's not the same. You were not in danger of being lynched and WOG hasn't posted at all, so it would have been a long wait.

But ok, here goes and man I hope I am right:

Votes BWT

#2096

Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.
Why does this matter to you? You voted for me with no interaction. And you voted for wrathofgod who hadn't posted at all.

Why wait for bird to talk? Aren't you afraid his magical syllables that he strings together might somehow influence you?

It's not the same. You were not in danger of being lynched and WOG hasn't posted at all, so it would have been a long wait.

But ok, here goes and man I hope I am right:

Votes BWT

What do you mean you hope you are right? You won't know.

Are you more powerful than I am at getting people to vote the way you want? No way you aren't!

#2097

FYI - I'm following along tonight

#2098

Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

I didn't miss the vote day one.

#2099

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much
I didn't miss the vote day one.

That's true:

Epignosis wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I went with a random and so I VOTE SPACEDAISY
I think I actually trust you in this one.

#2100

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.
Why does this matter to you? You voted for me with no interaction. And you voted for wrathofgod who hadn't posted at all.

Why wait for bird to talk? Aren't you afraid his magical syllables that he strings together might somehow influence you?

It's not the same. You were not in danger of being lynched and WOG hasn't posted at all, so it would have been a long wait.

But ok, here goes and man I hope I am right:

Votes BWT
What do you mean you hope you are right? You won't know.

Are you more powerful than I am at getting people to vote the way you want? No way you aren't!

Well good, we finally agree. You have mega-vote inducing powers Skeletor.

I clearly mean if by some chance Bwt is lynched instead of me I hope I am right.

Now I am off to eat ice cream and watch more Doctor Who, so I am all caught up for BWT's game next year.

Linki - You're right, but in the poll you voted the host/dead option, so didn't see you there when I looked.

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