DFS Mafia [ENDGAME]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Luna seems town AF during this catchup

Which of course means she’s probably scum given my track record LOL

But seriously yeah I would bump her up to moderate town right now

What sold you?

She said like

She disliked Aliens post and liked mine

THEN she showed critical reassessment and called on us to stop the lynch

I don’t see why she does this as scum unless it’s some very strange plot where she and alien are both scum even then that seems like a stretch

It definitely seems like she’s genuinely trying to figure everyone out

Good call on the development of her turn for the better on alien. I'd not considered that.

[DharmaHelper]

DharmaHelper good job highlighting random parts of sentences, taking them out of context and using them to push a mislynch of me. I thank you. Feels good. Such town.

[MacDougall]

I'm still not caught up yet, why does mac have 5 votes? what did he do?

Mac things. Look who is voting me. Just a bunch of players who I have been picking at plus KOFM and Luna.

[MacDougall]

DharmaHelper good job highlighting random parts of sentences, taking them out of context and using them to push a mislynch of me. I thank you. Feels good. Such town.

This man is town.

[MacDougall]

Mac just say you want me and this will all be over

Die

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Someone's gotta flip red. Why not Turnip Head?

Come on dude. You know this is going to do shit for me. Why is Turnip Head a candidate that I should be interested in lynching?

I don't care about appealing to you. There are other players who don't have an erection at the thought of lynching me on day 1 that I am more likely to be able to plea to. Several of whom aren't voting me. You do you KOFM.

You have no idea what gives me an erection. I want my final vote to land on an ideal name, and I am trying to give you an opportunity to explain yourself. If you refuse to honor that as a civilian, it's because you have an erection for spiting me.

[Tangrowth]

Sorry all be back soon gotta finish up here and head back and then I have some stuff that reallly needs done but I’ll be here off and on

[Turnip Head]

Mac just say you want me and this will all be over

Die

[DharmaHelper]

Someone's gotta flip red. Why not Turnip Head?

Come on dude. You know this is going to do shit for me. Why is Turnip Head a candidate that I should be interested in lynching?

I don't care about appealing to you. There are other players who don't have an erection at the thought of lynching me on day 1 that I am more likely to be able to plea to. Several of whom aren't voting me. You do you KOFM.

You have no idea what gives me an erection. I want my final vote to land on an ideal name, and I am trying to give you an opportunity to explain yourself. If you refuse to honor that as a civilian, it's because you have an erection for spiting me.

I beg to differ.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention], you know the drill buddy. Let's see that blowfish. Why abyssum?

[Kylemii]

fwiw I understand where you would be coming from with the whole "kyle is accusing me for no reason : (" thing given that i only briefly and kind of ambiguously mentioned that I was bothered by your posts and then left for work for 4 hours rather than explaining it clearly right away or waiting to mention it until i could fully explain my concerns.

[MacDougall]

Jay will change his vote 13 times before EOD. Dharmahelper and TH are just hivemind bashing their antagonist. Dunno what Lunalee's deal is. Sprityo remains omgus voting me.

Good job. Such wagon. Full metal.

[Turnip Head]

@Turnip Head, you know the drill buddy. Let's see that blowfish. Why abyssum?

Cuz of one post he made which is quoted in my ISO

[MacDougall]

Someone's gotta flip red. Why not Turnip Head?

Come on dude. You know this is going to do shit for me. Why is Turnip Head a candidate that I should be interested in lynching?

I don't care about appealing to you. There are other players who don't have an erection at the thought of lynching me on day 1 that I am more likely to be able to plea to. Several of whom aren't voting me. You do you KOFM.

You have no idea what gives me an erection. I want my final vote to land on an ideal name, and I am trying to give you an opportunity to explain yourself. If you refuse to honor that as a civilian, it's because you have an erection for spiting me.

I do enjoy spiting you. Not sexually but it does appease me yes.

[Turnip Head]

Jay will change his vote 13 times before EOD. Dharmahelper and TH are just hivemind bashing their antagonist. Dunno what Lunalee's deal is. Sprityo remains omgus voting me.

Good job. Such wagon. Full metal.

dude

[MacDougall]

Watch as I just post like an asshole and these votes on me magically disappear

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Turnip Head, you know the drill buddy. Let's see that blowfish. Why abyssum?

Cuz of one post he made which is quoted in my ISO

There are three of those.

[MacDougall]

Jay will change his vote 13 times before EOD. Dharmahelper and TH are just hivemind bashing their antagonist. Dunno what Lunalee's deal is. Sprityo remains omgus voting me.

Good job. Such wagon. Full metal.

dude

Yes Captain No U?

[MacDougall]

Incoming Jay vote change

[abyssum]

i am reading and attempting to process the suspicions against Mac, and i'm kind of irritated because of the fact that a big chunk of that suspicion appears to be dependent on the pairing of Jay+Mac, and it's difficult to independently evaluate.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] myJay here's what i'm not understanding from you specifically on Mac: you're taking his scum play from another game, which you described as one of your personal worst games, and applying it to this situation. let's say you're town here and do not think that you're playing one of your worst games. is it ridiculous that a town Mac would be more willing to follow some of your suspicions in a 'good' game from you, or is this only behavior that you can expect from a scum Mac?

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] 7 you seemed to like my comment about Mac's playstyle being self-centered. has that changed for you at all? why? does it matter or impact your read on Mac, or just your read on me?

@ anyone aware of it: does Mac have the same amount (or similar, or good-enough familiarity) of experience with MP7 that he has with Jay?

[Turnip Head]

That's Pretty Officer No U to you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Incoming Jay vote change

Maybe once I'm done with my erection

[MacDougall]

Legacy post. My teammates are Colin and Tsaiah.

[Turnip Head]

Turnip Head, you know the drill buddy. Let's see that blowfish. Why abyssum?

Cuz of one post he made which is quoted in my ISO

There are three of those.

Oh

[abyssum]

Turnip Head has noticed me

u///u

i like your name dude

[Turnip Head]

Thanks

[MacDougall]

Wait Jay has led a wagon on me because of Ass Class?

Hahaha nice. I want to be lynched now. It will make a good Volume 2 in the Jay Sucks Trilogy. Part 3 is where he gets lynched day 1 by me.

[MacDougall]

And is scum. Obviously. Yeah.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay myJay here's what i'm not understanding from you specifically on Mac: you're taking his scum play from another game, which you described as one of your personal worst games, and applying it to this situation. let's say you're town here and do not think that you're playing one of your worst games. is it ridiculous that a town Mac would be more willing to follow some of your suspicions in a 'good' game from you, or is this only behavior that you can expect from a scum Mac?

I should clarify. I don't think Mac would be "following" me in this case. Indeed, it'd be more accurate that he'd seek for me to follow him (and then likely take the brunt of the crap when it goes awry). This is specific to his handling of Turnip Head and not any other reads he and I may have discussed.

[abyssum]

i love how wonky the mention function is here and how it likes to add words to the words i've already written so it looks like i'm extra bad at writing words.

[abyssum]

@JaggedJimmyJay myJay here's what i'm not understanding from you specifically on Mac: you're taking his scum play from another game, which you described as one of your personal worst games, and applying it to this situation. let's say you're town here and do not think that you're playing one of your worst games. is it ridiculous that a town Mac would be more willing to follow some of your suspicions in a 'good' game from you, or is this only behavior that you can expect from a scum Mac?

I should clarify. I don't think Mac would be "following" me in this case. Indeed, it'd be more accurate that he'd seek for me to follow him (and then likely take the brunt of the crap when it goes awry). This is specific to his handling of Turnip Head and not any other reads he and I may have discussed.

okay, thank you

[MacDougall]

Part 1 - Scum Mac leaves Jay alive all game to prove his superiority.

Part 2 - Jay leads the mislynch of Mac on day 1 while he sleeps.

Part 3 - Scum Jay is lynched day 1 by a team of MacDougall, TheFloyd and Wolbre.

[MacDougall]

Jay ask me questions about the things I am scum for?

[abyssum]

my avatar is literally Dana Scully why does everyone think im a guy

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay ask me questions about the things I am scum for?

Why do you think those bullshit "clearance" reasons you provided to motivate a TH lynch are worth anything whatsoever?

[MacDougall]

What do you mean about specific to turnip head? I don't even know why you think I am bad? I presume you have some overly complicated bullshit that every rational player is confused by and DH and TH just voted me because it seemed funny.

[Turnip Head]

Mac I'm tryna move this wagon off you but I'm not down for you to play the victim. Let's go we got scum to catch

Linki: sorry abyssum, I'll get it right next time!

[MacDougall]

Jay ask me questions about the things I am scum for?

Why do you think those bullshit "clearance" reasons you provided to motivate a TH lynch are worth anything whatsoever?

Why don't you ask MP? He liked them.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Part 1 - Scum Mac leaves Jay alive all game to prove his superiority.

Part 2 - Jay leads the mislynch of Mac on day 1 while he sleeps.

Part 3 - Scum Jay is lynched day 1 by a team of MacDougall, TheFloyd and Wolbre.

At no point in this game have you considered with any seriousness the possibility that I am a mafioso.

[MacDougall]

Mac I'm tryna move this wagon off you but I'm not down for you to play the victim. Let's go we got scum to catch

Linki: sorry abyssum, I'll get it right next time!

Mein hero

[Turnip Head]

Part 1 - Scum Mac leaves Jay alive all game to prove his superiority.

Part 2 - Jay leads the mislynch of Mac on day 1 while he sleeps.

Part 3 - Scum Jay is lynched day 1 by a team of MacDougall, TheFloyd and Wolbre.

Still a better love story than twilight

[dunya]

my avatar is literally Dana Scully why does everyone think im a guy

people in online mafia communities tend to default to male pronouns with newbies unless explicitly told otherwise (from my experience, anyway). sorry

[MacDougall]

Part 1 - Scum Mac leaves Jay alive all game to prove his superiority.

Part 2 - Jay leads the mislynch of Mac on day 1 while he sleeps.

Part 3 - Scum Jay is lynched day 1 by a team of MacDougall, TheFloyd and Wolbre.

At no point in this game have you considered with any seriousness the possibility that I am a mafioso.

Why would I? Have you played a scummy game Jay?

[MacDougall]

We are in full linki heck dunya do you mind not contributing

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Part 1 - Scum Mac leaves Jay alive all game to prove his superiority.

Part 2 - Jay leads the mislynch of Mac on day 1 while he sleeps.

Part 3 - Scum Jay is lynched day 1 by a team of MacDougall, TheFloyd and Wolbre.

At no point in this game have you considered with any seriousness the possibility that I am a mafioso.

Why would I? Have you played a scummy game Jay?

You rarely seem to let me get through a game without telling me that I have.

[MacDougall]

Jay point at the Jay posts that I should have read as scum

[Kylemii]

Strong Mafia

Moderate Mafia
M Plus 7 - moving this down to moderate for now because aby's take on it is making me doubt myself and maybe I'm just being a tunnelly idiot. His dogpees don't feel real to me at all though
Luna - reads feel forced as I've mentioned already, their tone and lack of panic in general is holding me back from putting them as 'Strong Mafia' though
Russ - his push on me feels agendary, I don't get the sense he's trying to actually sort me at all, but not putting him at Strong yet because I want others' thoughts on this first since I'm likely biased

Slight Mafia
DH - Jay had some good points about him choosing only the weak point in the ISO to respond to and his read of jay being 'I don't know if you're bad' and then suddenly 'you're probably bad' reads as a fake progression to me, but I'm not sure why he'd post the way he's been posting as Mafia because theres 0 attempt to fit in as a Townie at all and I don't think he'd try to rely on a WIFOM like 'why would he do this as Mafia!' to win the game

Neutral
Kyle - don't remember any of their posts, maybe that's a bad thing but my memory does suck
Marmot - I didn't think they'd posted but aby said they have 8 posts
Robot - their meta seemed different to me at first, but their 'I'll sheep the wagon' post actually seemed a lot more like robo was last game I played when they were Town - although they did this right after I pointed out their meta was different so hesitant to award big points for it, but it makes me feel a bit better about them at least. Their read on Luna felt a bit TMI though, but I'm waiting to here their responses to me about that before I look into that further
Sprit - don't remember any of their posts other than when they were attacking Mac and I didn't really feel anything particularly alignment-indicative about it other than it felt like the ratio of defence:figuring Mac's alignment out was a bit biased to defence, so minor point against him for that. M Plus 7 said they're low hanging fruit so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt a bit and wait to see more content from them to form a proper opinion. Out of the neutrals he's probably the closest to being in the Slight Mafia category
Turnip - don't remember any of their posts really, so no opinion here either, I think I saw them say they're not reading the thread properly yet?


Slight Town
Colin - I still don't remember why I feel this way so I should go back and check
Mac - mostly seems authentic and I don't see much agenda for the most part, but his 'annoyance' with M Plus 7 didn't translate into his posts at all for me so I wonder if it's fake, also his push on sprit didn't have any solviness to it but I can also see a world where he does that as an annoyed Townie who just wants to lynch the person. Not sure at all what to make of his 'I lied to fit into my meta' thing, it can swing both ways to me, but it keeps echoing in the back of my mind and making me paranoid. My gut says he's Town despite that stuff so I'm putting him here but out of all the Town reads I have this is probably the lowest.
Aby - my mind is flip-flopping on aby a lot, she felt off all game before her latest reads list, which I like a lot and seems like someone genuinely coming from a point of not knowing anyone's alignments because most of the reads I can relate to. But I find their M Plus 7 read concerning, as well as their early interaction with M Plus 7 feeling awkward and weird. I'll put them in Slight Town for their latest reads post but she's fairly close to neutral and if M Plus 7 turns out to be Mafia she'll likely be my next #1 suspicion.


Moderate Town
Nobody I guess!

Strong Town
Jay - I like most of his points, I read him as genuine, I buy that he's actually trying to solve the game and I find his lines of investigation insightful.
Tsiah - I love their lines of inquiery, it's all very unique and poking into things that everyone else glossed over. It reads very journalisty and investigative y, and I get overall good vibes from them.

I borrowed Russ's format. I am on a rollercoaster of emotion.

i don't get it, what parts of this did jay change?

[abyssum]

my avatar is literally Dana Scully why does everyone think im a guy

people in online mafia communities tend to default to male pronouns with newbies unless explicitly told otherwise (from my experience, anyway). sorry

it's ok i'm not mad or anything, it just always perplexes/amuses me a fair bit when it happens <3 though it does confuse me when i'm trying to figure out who's being referred to in a post

(and i just remembered this doesn't have an explicit pronoun section so if you say she or they, i'm way more likely to recognize you're talkin about me)

[MacDougall]

Part 1 - Scum Mac leaves Jay alive all game to prove his superiority.

Part 2 - Jay leads the mislynch of Mac on day 1 while he sleeps.

Part 3 - Scum Jay is lynched day 1 by a team of MacDougall, TheFloyd and Wolbre.

At no point in this game have you considered with any seriousness the possibility that I am a mafioso.

Why would I? Have you played a scummy game Jay?

You rarely seem to let me get through a game without telling me that I have.

Mac of the past is Mac of the past. I already explained that I intended not to have open war with loud town players just because. Look what good that has done me @golden. Thanks mate. Fucking Kiwis and their eccentric ideas.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I just put together a lengthy post, Mac, explaining why I am wary of the knowledge you have of my civilian tendencies. One component of that knowledge is that I can be moved by tone and snark if I feel it looks the right way. You're doing that now.

If you're going to fuck off and then end up an errant lynch, I won't spend a second blaming myself.