DFS Mafia [ENDGAME]

[abyssum]

hello highposters

[MacDougall]

Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?

Because she’s town lol

Why?

[Epignosis]

Big Generator it is.

[MacDougall]

CFD Jay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i could stake my reputation on Mac and Luna being town in this game because i don't have any reputation to speak of. BAM

I have kept count of your reputation so far, and you're already close to seven so be careful.

[abyssum]

i could stake my reputation on Mac and Luna being town in this game because i don't have any reputation to speak of. BAM

I have kept count of your reputation so far, and you're already close to seven so be careful.

shit. that's somewhat more than six

[JaggedJimmyJay]

CFD Jay

Thoughtful rebuttal

[ColinIsCool]

I think scum Luna would have felt more pressure to be on a relevant wagon. I suck at reading Luna, but this feels right.

[MacDougall]

CFD Jay

Thoughtful rebuttal

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?

I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?

[MacDougall]

Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?

I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?

I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?

I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?

I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.

Understood. I felt the same way for a moment during the GTH exercise.

[Tsaiah]

Hai, off work again and caught up

Re: Robot being awol, i don't have much meta with her, but i have seen her disappear when life eats her as both alignments, fwiw (she did show back up when we maf'd together in order to not let her slot get modkilled for inactivity--that was in lategame when scum was getting pretty close to winning).

Her interactions do sound like they have potential, hard to dig for anything more when she isn't here. I don't think I'd be surprised at either flip, tbh.


Re: everything Abyssum just said about Luna, agree completely. I keep feeling like alien had her down for a designated suspect, wanted to encourage potential sus there, and then flipped his read on her on a dime when she tr'd him, bc at that point he desperately needed allies.

[abyssum]

tsaiah as a subject is something i need to put on my big girl brain pants for

[Tangrowth]

Alright I'm here and on laptop. Give me a few minutes though.

[abyssum]

hey [mention]Tsaiah[/mention] do you have some Words you could lend me about why you were eager for my response to Jay's post about my + alien's reads lists?

[MacDougall]

Given I know for sure that Turnip Head is a civilian, it is a mathematically certainty that one or all of the Mafia are currently on the Robot wagon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm at a point right now where it feels very much like both of them are in this pile:

Robot
DH
sprityo
Marmot
TH
Luna

A lot hinges on the results of this lynch, and I'm not going to get comfortable, but the more I think over the state of the game the more clearly it seems to fall together. We probably need a 6-player POO and that's where I'm at.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Given I know for sure that Turnip Head is a civilian, it is a mathematically certainty that one or all of the Mafia are currently on the Robot wagon.

At the likely numbers arrangements I am wary of a godfather.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I had to point to someone outside my POO as a "scary" slot, it'd be Colin. I think the interactions worked well for him, but not without some room for questions.

[MacDougall]

Given I know for sure that Turnip Head is a civilian, it is a mathematically certainty that one or all of the Mafia are currently on the Robot wagon.

At the likely numbers arrangements I am wary of a godfather.

The existence of a Godfather is a certainty. The chances of having already cop scanned him are quite low though.

[Lunalee]

Looks like Robot is getting lynched. I'm down.
[VOTE: RobotNerd277] aubergine

[abyssum]

TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO

[Tsaiah]

Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?

I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?

I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.

It's fine, I'll get a more definitive read on you if you don't let me be forgotten about. ;3

Work eats me extra bad on the weekends (and sleeping less than i already do just isn't a viable option, if i'm gonna be functional enough there to retain gainful employment. xD) I no-choice slept enough last night that I'll probably be able to stay up a little to work on the game tonight, should be able to devote some more time to it after work tomorrow, and then I'm off for two days (yay!)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Poor Turnip Head.

[Lunalee]

I'm at a point right now where it feels very much like both of them are in this pile:

Robot
DH
sprityo
Marmot
TH
Luna

A lot hinges on the results of this lynch, and I'm not going to get comfortable, but the more I think over the state of the game the more clearly it seems to fall together. We probably need a 6-player POO and that's where I'm at.

How so? If Robot flips scum, who should we go after next? And if Robot flips town, who should we go after next?

[Tangrowth]

Alright, so I think RobotNerd is spewed town (yay TMI) by Alien, and this alone is why she is placed in moderate town. The way Alien talks about Robot also reads very similarly to the way scum Alien talked about a low hanging fruit townie (dichotomousCreator) in wild cards 1, and I originally thought that as well, but then we ended up MLing him anyway because he independently looked scummy. I'd hesitate to make that mistake again here. Nonetheless we must consider Robot on her own merits and consider the possibility that Alien was defending a teammate here.

Could you talk more about the things that specifically had you feeling this way, even if you don't have the same perspective right now?

Uhh so I spoke to this somewhat already but basically I mostly recalled and reviewed Alien's treatment of Robot at the end of Day 1, and that's what was causing my interpretation primarily. When reviewed holistically, I agreed more with your overall conclusions.

I hope this answers your question. Does it?

[abyssum]

oh hi

[Tangrowth]

Jay, that's not what Turnip Head looks like.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

How so? If Robot flips scum, who should we go after next? And if Robot flips town, who should we go after next?

I don't know yet. If it's a town flip though I'm going to feel the need to shake it up. She seems the most obvious, and if the most obvious one is wrong then I am not going to just sit on my POO pool without digging into everything again with new eyes.

[Tsaiah]

TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO

I'M RIGHT HERE

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod

[abyssum]

Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?

I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?

I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.

It's fine, I'll get a more definitive read on you if you don't let me be forgotten about. ;3

Work eats me extra bad on the weekends (and sleeping less than i already do just isn't a viable option, if i'm gonna be functional enough there to retain gainful employment. xD) I no-choice slept enough last night that I'll probably be able to stay up a little to work on the game tonight, should be able to devote some more time to it after work tomorrow, and then I'm off for two days (yay!)

tsaiah why aren't you Team Mac yet. hey tsaiah. why arent you team mac

[Tangrowth]

This is Turnip Head:

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm familiar with Miyazaki.

[Tangrowth]

Mac I've already spoken at length as to why I think Tsaiah is town. I've continued to reassess her. What specifically do you want to engage with me about it?

[abyssum]

TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO

I'M RIGHT HERE

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod

WHY NOT PRE-EOD.

[abyssum]

mac i am dedicated to this team so i'll read Tsaiah for you ok? ok.

[Tangrowth]

Honestly I have other things to attend to, sorry guys. I'll still be here off and on until EOD but I won't be able to do much.

[Tsaiah]

hey @Tsaiah do you have some Words you could lend me about why you were eager for my response to Jay's post about my + alien's reads lists?

Because i expected your response to probably be towny af, and also potentially amusing :3

[abyssum]

like clearly if robot is town we should do a big old reassessment party (more GTH plz?) but also it's going to send me down the sprityo rabbit hole at least somewhat

there's no confirmation that it's 3 mafia, right?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Alright, so I think RobotNerd is spewed town (yay TMI) by Alien, and this alone is why she is placed in moderate town. The way Alien talks about Robot also reads very similarly to the way scum Alien talked about a low hanging fruit townie (dichotomousCreator) in wild cards 1, and I originally thought that as well, but then we ended up MLing him anyway because he independently looked scummy. I'd hesitate to make that mistake again here. Nonetheless we must consider Robot on her own merits and consider the possibility that Alien was defending a teammate here.

Could you talk more about the things that specifically had you feeling this way, even if you don't have the same perspective right now?

Uhh so I spoke to this somewhat already but basically I mostly recalled and reviewed Alien's treatment of Robot at the end of Day 1, and that's what was causing my interpretation primarily. When reviewed holistically, I agreed more with your overall conclusions.

I hope this answers your question. Does it?

I'd have to look over that material and then glance at the dC stuff from your other game to get a better idea. For the moment it'll do.

[Kylemii]

when do we find out if we are assholes or not

[JaggedJimmyJay]

like clearly if robot is town we should do a big old reassessment party (more GTH plz?) but also it's going to send me down the sprityo rabbit hole at least somewhat

there's no confirmation that it's 3 mafia, right?

Right. That's my assumption. Other numbers create weird balance scenarios, but they're possible. I'd say that if heist tradition is followed, 3 mafia is >90% likely.

[Tsaiah]

TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO

I'M RIGHT HERE

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod

WHY NOT PRE-EOD.

a) it's a bunch of different things i gotta dig back up from when i was quickly and sleepily catching up on the way to work
b) i'm on mobile trying not to get rained on while i wait for a ride home from work

[abyssum]

TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO

I'M RIGHT HERE

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod

WHY NOT PRE-EOD.

a) it's a bunch of different things i gotta dig back up from when i was quickly and sleepily catching up on the way to work
b) i'm on mobile trying not to get rained on while i wait for a ride home from work

...fine. I GUESS.

i might have questions for you too now that i'm more strongly digging into your iso

[Russtifinko]

Things I need clarified:

What "TMI" and "CFD" are.
What a "godfather" is.

I guess that's all. I feel like this whole thread is just waiting for today to be over.

[Tangrowth]

If Robot flips town, my reads are basically garbage and will all be reassessed.

[Lunalee]

when do we find out if we are assholes or not

I think we already are. New Syndicate motto seems to be:
"Come play mafia on our site! New players get lynched first!"

[Tsaiah]

NEVER lynch Aby. Hardlocking it, staking my reputation, etc (and my rep for always reading them correctly)

Their behavior toward me at BOTH eods is 100% purest of pure town aby xD

[abyssum]

Things I need clarified:

What "TMI" and "CFD" are.
What a "godfather" is.

I guess that's all. I feel like this whole thread is just waiting for today to be over.

TMI=too much information. "X is TMIing Y" is like, scum!X is townreading town!Y or something along those lines
CFD=chinese fire drill, u vote people really fast and kill them right at eod

godfather=mafia who shows up as town to cops