[ENDGAME] The Shawshank Redemption Mafia

#1301

Dom wrote:
Lizzy, why are you so against voting JJ? This may make me change my mind.

I've been saying this over and over again. If he were bad, I don't think his teammates would allow such a hectic behaviour on the board: voting for someone without justification, changing his votes every 5 minutes, even now, voting for BWT who has been targeted by the sisters and survived, if we assume (and I do) that Shawshank personnel is dead. He's not paying attention to the game overall, just desperately trying to survive. I think he's an easy target and an important civ role, which is why people (baddies

) are all over him k.

#1302

Bullzeye wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:@Bullz: I thought SVS voted to tie Lizzy and I, then boo voted to put me back ahead of her, then I voted for Lizzy in hopes I'd live?
Yes, but when SVS cast her vote, if you and Boo hadn't voted then you and Lizzy would still have been tied. Therefore it could be said that the two people who voted Lizzy and not you (FZ and SVS) after I put you ahead may have tried to save you. That's what my theory was and is part of why I voted for you when you got lynched.

I see what you meant now; it was not worded in such a way before.

So, what are your thoughts on SVS and FZ's day 1 & 2 votes now that my first life has been resolved?

#1303

Russti appears to be observing. Waiting to pounce? To save a teammate if necessary?

#1304

Whoa, so now I'm SUUUUUPER confused.

Epi, will you tell us if a team is eliminated?

I was running on the assumption that he would say so, and that thus Haig is still out there, because iirc Epi has given that information in every one of his games I've played. I'm also assuming the kill is gone, which makes Haig less of a priority than Boggs but more so than the other Sisters and the SK. Everyone's voting strategy seem predicated on a different assumption though, which makes me worried this lynch will be far too chaotic.

#1305

Sh*t, I think I just summoned you. :o

Should I vote for you, Russ?

#1306

Linki: thanks for the wild accusations, MR. If you must know, I just got back from finishing my post for The Hobbit Mafia over on the drawing board (shameless plug alert: go check it out! And give me feedback and vote for it in the Hosting Poll!) and then I decided to read the thread, think, and write a post. Maybe I'm too slow for you people; FZ accused said the same thing a few days ago.

And who would I be saving, exactly?

#1307

Linki again: not if you want to eliminate baddies.

#1308

Oi you two! Last time we formed a neat voting block and it worked. Let's do that again. KRussti, you were also against a JJjjjjjjjJJj lynch, correct?

Who are you looking at?

#1309

Mister Rearranger wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:@Bullz: I thought SVS voted to tie Lizzy and I, then boo voted to put me back ahead of her, then I voted for Lizzy in hopes I'd live?
Yes, but when SVS cast her vote, if you and Boo hadn't voted then you and Lizzy would still have been tied. Therefore it could be said that the two people who voted Lizzy and not you (FZ and SVS) after I put you ahead may have tried to save you. That's what my theory was and is part of why I voted for you when you got lynched.
I see what you meant now; it was not worded in such a way before.

So, what are your thoughts on SVS and FZ's day 1 & 2 votes now that my first life has been resolved?

I wasn't too sure about FZ, had been sort of thinking civ for her. As for SVS, I don't see her having been Boo's teammate because she's a big part of why he got lynched (at least IMO). Recently I feel like she's been a bit single minded in her pursuit of JJ but that's not necessarily a baddie thing. As far as their votes go, I don't really have thoughts about them any more. Both voted Lizzy (don't know what side she's on - I'm thinking civ) on day one, then SVS changed to you on day 2. She voted for a civ but then so did half the game.

#1310

Idk, nobody has made an effort to save J2JJ as of yet, so it makes me go "hmm". But I've been waiting in case.

I'm of Lizzy's mindset that he's panicking or lost as a civ. If someone is coaching him, they are making some crazy, crazy gambles.

linki @Bullz: SVS was "feeling ok" about me not all that long before I became the subject of her Day 2 vote. I don't think she was boo's teammate either. I do still have the same uneasy feelings about her.

#1311

Mister Rearranger wrote:Idk, nobody has made an effort to save J2JJ as of yet, so it makes me go "hmm". But I've been waiting in case.

I'm of Lizzy's mindset that he's panicking or lost as a civ. If someone is coaching him, they are making some crazy, crazy gambles.

linki @Bullz: SVS was "feeling ok" about me not all that long before I became the subject of her Day 2 vote. I don't think she was boo's teammate either. I do still have the same uneasy feelings about her.

I was about to say perhaps a reread is in order, then I realised we have 30 minutes to vote. A very quick reread could be in order.

#1312

Well, I still don't know where to vote until Epi responds to my question and hopefully more discussion is had. Gonna wrap Christmas presents now, but I'll kinda sorta be around if anyone wants to talk.

Linki: Yay, Lizzy! I'm down for a voting bloc. My suspicions depend on whether there's still a third Warden teammate around. If there is, I have a few ideas as to who it could be. If not, I'm a little lost on the Sisters if JJ isn't one (which I still think is a strong possibility).

S~V~S is one I've been thinking about. She's certainly earned a bunch of civ cred by helping us get boo, and she hasn't seemed as overtly concerned with getting Wardens and boo was with Sisters. However, I don't like how hard she's pushing for JJ, and lately I've been wondering if she could be a Sister or even Boggs.

I'm a bit reluctant to vote her just because she's been so valuable, though. Which I guess is just what a baddie would want, but it still makes me hesitate.

Linki: I guess MR might join our bloc too, if we go that way.

#1313

Lizzy wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I am in the middle of a rousing D & D session, so i am gonna vote now so i don;t forget.

I still think John is bad.
Why?

If you vote for John, I'll vote for you, and I was planning on leaving you alone today.

Knock yourself out. I think he is bad, and i have been saying that for days. i think boo was sure of it, and he would not have been going for him like he was if he was not. You have been on my back since i voted for you, so whether you leave me alone or not is not something i am overly concerned with.

#1314

Triple super quadruple linki bomb: oh, so you went so far as to vote S~V~S already.

Can we start calling ourselves the Soviet Bloc or something catchy? I'll be Krygyzstan, please.

Linki: Oh hi S~V~S! What are your thoughts on non-JJ people? As I said, I'm not 100% into voting you just yet, but I'm not into voting him either.

#1315

Also, Bullz, don't we have roughly 90 minutes to vote?

#1316

I want to get a Sister since getting baddies from both teams benefits all. You have been spending a lot of time being nice to me, Russ, now you are starting to sound ominously like Boo. I think Boo had himself a sister since that was his focus the whole game.

#1317

We have 20mins to vote, and I went to far as to vote as i have every day for the past week, how cheeky of me, lol.

#1318

Russ: We have 20 minutes to vote.

SVS: -_- I hate when shit comes down to my decision.

#1319

Let me vote SVS for now.

#1320

Why is it your decision? Four people have voted, and the rest are in here?

I am telling you,if you are not one of them (and who they are is becoming more obvious, lol) lynching me would be a mistake.

#1321

And why, MR? I am gonna sit in here until I am lynched, so the civs have a direction for tomorrow.

#1322

To your first post, I realized that and then...

S~V~S wrote:And why, MR? I am gonna sit in here until I am lynched, so the civs have a direction for tomorrow.

I voted for you to put the action on them.

Did you use any cigs today?

#1323

I don;t have any cigs~

#1324

I see a lot of people in this forum, none of them voting.

#1325

S~V~S wrote:I want to get a Sister since getting baddies from both teams benefits all. You have been spending a lot of time being nice to me, Russ, now you are starting to sound ominously like Boo. I think Boo had himself a sister since that was his focus the whole game.

You accusing me doesn't make me feel better about you.... I like to think I'm nice regardless of alignment, though, so thanks for that.

I get what you're saying about boo. He didn't have any more info than the rest of us regarding who the Sisters were, though, and I'm still not sure Elo can be believed.

And MR, does your last post to S~V~S mean you're voting her so that the Sisters will come vote her too and then you'll vote for them? I just didn't understand what you meant. If so, that's a weird gambit, and it would mean you think you're voting a civ, which I advise against this late in the game.

#1326

SVS, I've looked through your posts (albeit as quickly as I could) and something I've noticed is you seemed to trust Boo until pretty much the day you first voted him, even going as far as to say you nearly voted him in the Parole poll. You also pretty much trusted (or didn't consider bad) JJ until Boo went down. Are the only reasons you suspect JJ Boo's thoughts and Elo's comment?

Also for the past few days you seem to have been solely focussed on JJ, barely mentioning anyone else. Not saying I'm gonna vote for you, just saying it doesn't look good.

#1327

I don't know if that makes me feel any better.

#1328

AP, you sneaky monkey! :O

#1329

I'm actually considering MR. He's been acting weird IMO, trying to push peoples' buttons, and now he may be pulling some sort of weird gambit.

I hate to break up our voting bloc, though. I'm just not completely convinced about S~V~S yet, though I admit it's plausible.

#1330

Yeah, I'm going for MR. He's been throwing out wild accusations and using his first life as excuses for them, and now he's voting S~V~S with what looks like a clear plan to vote other S~V~S voters later on.

#1331

Bullzeye wrote:SVS, I've looked through your posts (albeit as quickly as I could) and something I've noticed is you seemed to trust Boo until pretty much the day you first voted him, even going as far as to say you nearly voted him in the Parole poll. You also pretty much trusted (or didn't consider bad) JJ until Boo went down. Are the only reasons you suspect JJ Boo's thoughts and Elo's comment?

Also for the past few days you seem to have been solely focussed on JJ, barely mentioning anyone else. Not saying I'm gonna vote for you, just saying it doesn't look good.

I reread boo when he said it was acceptable to vote for someone for a shitty reason. Civ boo would not talk that way IMO and i was correct. he was not a civ.

I also think he had info on John. he sounded like "boo with info". they stol my book, they had books of their own, they stole other peoples books, and boo is amazingly astute.

Boo was sure john was a sister, and i think he had reason to know. This is why i am focused on John.

linki@Russ, until today you have been saying how civ i was (and you were right), why the sudden change of heart?

#1332

I think we'll be ok with this lynch. *crosses fingers*

linki: Getting to live twice is often a very fortunate scenario.

#1333

What if I switch to JJ........

wait for it....

now?

#1334

As a matter of fact, John is who boo was offering up as an alternative to himself, he NEEDED a baddie. Also why i think john is bad.

LOL, A person voted for me ha ha

#1335

Anyone wanna change their votes?

Linki: S~V~S. So you do think boo had info? That's news to me, as is stealing books and the idea that books are actually useful for this stuff.

And as I said, I'm not convinced you;re bad yet, S~V~S. It's just been something in the back of my mind, and we're running low on other candidates. As you can see, though, I didn't vote you.

#1336

Bullz, what are you waiting for?

#1337

I'd vote if I could

#1338

Russtifinko wrote:Anyone wanna change their votes?

Linki: S~V~S. So you do think boo had info? That's news to me, as is stealing books and the idea that books are actually useful for this stuff.

And as I said, I'm not convinced you;re bad yet, S~V~S. It's just been something in the back of my mind, and we're running low on other candidates. As you can see, though, I didn't vote you.

You know that if she gets lynched and is bad, you're next.

... if not, I am

#1339

FZ. wrote:I'd vote if I could

Buddy, you said a mouthful.

#1340

Bullz, you almost got me.

#1341

I voted SVS. Her early trust of Boo and single minded JJ hunt are just two of the reasons. Looking back, I found her reaction to Sorsha dying strange. Like she was trying to put out just how SHOCKED she was that someone would do that, as if she would NEVER have done it herself. Kinda felt like unneccesary WIFOM. I don't feel great about this vote, but I have literally one minute til the deadline ends and nothing else to go on.

#1342

Mister Rearranger wrote:Bullz, you almost got me.

What's that supposed to mean?

#1343

Let me qualify that, i beleive they could steal books. He stole something from me, and that was all i had to steal. No contraband that i was aware of.

And i think it is possible they had info, sure. i think boo was very, very sure. And he needed a winner. Boo is srs bsns.

#1344

So it's me against SVS and her team (which could include Russ).

Or me against J2JJ's remaining team (which could include Bullz and AP).

Let's rock and roll.

#1345

Bullzeye wrote:I voted SVS. Her early trust of Boo and single minded JJ hunt are just two of the reasons. Looking back, I found her reaction to Sorsha dying strange. Like she was trying to put out just how SHOCKED she was that someone would do that, as if she would NEVER have done it herself. Kinda felt like unneccesary WIFOM. I don't feel great about this vote, but I have literally one minute til the deadline ends and nothing else to go on.

you know my game better than anyone else alive in this game other than Dom. You know I would totally ignore that kind of crap if i did it, I don;t fake that WIFOM crap. you should not feel great about it, and you probably don;t since you know I am not bad.

#1346

Lizzy wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:Anyone wanna change their votes?

Linki: S~V~S. So you do think boo had info? That's news to me, as is stealing books and the idea that books are actually useful for this stuff.

And as I said, I'm not convinced you;re bad yet, S~V~S. It's just been something in the back of my mind, and we're running low on other candidates. As you can see, though, I didn't vote you.
You know that if she gets lynched and is bad, you're next.

... if not, I am

Who, S~V~S? Oh, because I didn't follow the bloc? Well, fair enough I suppose. She's right, I've been more or less saying she's civ all game. I promise we're not baddie teammates, though.

SUPER DUPER ULTRA MEGA INTENSE MIND-BLOWING LINKI

#1347

Bullzeye wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:Bullz, you almost got me.
What's that supposed to mean?

Your deadline vote.

The vote pattern wasn't adding up. I hope I was right. If I was wrong, I'll make due from here.

#1348

S~V~S wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I voted SVS. Her early trust of Boo and single minded JJ hunt are just two of the reasons. Looking back, I found her reaction to Sorsha dying strange. Like she was trying to put out just how SHOCKED she was that someone would do that, as if she would NEVER have done it herself. Kinda felt like unneccesary WIFOM. I don't feel great about this vote, but I have literally one minute til the deadline ends and nothing else to go on.
you know my game better than anyone else alive in this game other than Dom. You know I would totally ignore that kind of crap if i did it, I don;t fake that WIFOM crap. you should not feel great about it, and you probably don;t since you know I am not bad.

I really don't. I've said as much in every game where you've ever come up as suspicious, I have trouble reading you because I always want to trust you.

#1349

Haha you against the world, huh MR? You seem fairly sure about me now that I've voted you. Funny how that works.

#1350

Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?