Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3301

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:45 pm That is definitely an emotional response lol but it’s one I believe to be fundamentally true. The only person who has truly examined me on the basis of this game in isolation with a view to me being bad is speed. And he wasn’t casing me.

Nutella and TH (and Colin) all seem to be comparing me to Courage. It could be genuine, but it’s also narrow, and most importantly wrong.

On that note - I’m at work for my busy morning. See you all later.

That may be part of it, I can admit as much, but it's really not just that. I think you are bad in this game because of your actions, tone, and interactions with other players in this game. Largely the latter. You are a compatible Sokoth teammate as demonstrated by DH, and you are compatible with pretty much every other possible baddie (DDL, Enrique, inh, even DF and sigliets-- honestly maybe not speed so much after that 3p speculation interaction)

#3302

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:55 pm Is anyone still gung ho about Enrique?

ya I'm definitely gung call him a ho

#3303

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:48 pm Golden the parallels to courage are too glaring for me to ignore.

There aren’t any

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3304

Here's the deal Golden: if you flip civ I will more seriously consider the possibility I am wrong about TH, because I would owe you that legacy.

#3305

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:44 am TFW you want to engage DDL to find a reason not to lynch him but he rel mad.

This sort of thing just makes people more mad DH... I didn't think that teasing the angry kid into getting angrier was really part of the TS fabric.

#3306

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:46 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:44 am like, Golden said he trusted his crew and that got a little out of hand and I think he might be a baddie manipulating the crew game, but that's to be expected. TH deliberately picked people he trusted and we all ended up trusting each other. Not just because we were on the same crew. We're not that dumb
I now think you are bad because I can't believe you are actually saying that with a straight face.

"Golden said he trusts people but he was obviously evil because his crew is not a big happy family like ours is because TH trusts us all and I trust him".

This is the post of a raging civ

#3307

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:49 am @MacDougall I understand you and apologize to you for everything I have said this game because I know understand how you felt last day phase.

#3308

All caught up now after being super busy for the last few days.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:38 pm INH swoops in at the eleventh hour and dons his Captain Hindsight costume

That’s...not entirely inaccurate, unfortunately.

I’ve more or less ballsed this game up, IMO. I’ve had three solid scumreads, DDL, Luna, and Nova. Those three players are the only ones I’ve tried my damndest to get lynched. And two of them have been NK’d, proving them to be civilians. Quick aside: I know that this is WIFOM-central, but does it honestly make sense for me to kill two of my three scumreads if I’m bad?

That all is enough for me to take a step back and reconfigure my viewpoint. Sure, I can intellectually engage with the cases against DDL, but my own self-doubt combined with his increasingly genuine pleas to his civvieness are enough for me to not want to rush into lynching him.

Current town reads: Enrique. Yes, yes, I know. But I still genuinely don’t understand the cases against him. The dude’s read civ for me the entire damn game.

Golden. The only thing about him that’s rubbed me the wrong way, was his quirky approach to captaincy. I appreciate that he stepped down when he realized how his strategy and the controversy around it was drowning it actual scum hunting. His case against TH has been floating around in the back of my head for a while, and is just getting more and more enforced as the game progresses. I think lynching Golden at this point would be idiotic.

Speed. Guy’s been a voice-of-reason for the thread for quite a bit, even if I haven’t always agreed with his cases. Nevertheless, his interactions with Nutella just seemed baffling.

Moving onto scumreads: Nutella. She’s damn hard to read. However, she’s been making me a little nervous this game from the very start. This exploded over the course of my catch-up session. All of her conversations with Speed had me audibly going yeech. Her defenses of TH seem baseless and overdone, and her switch to Golden nigh-incoherent. She’s a baddie.

Turnip Head. Another figure that’s inspired apprehension in me for quite a bit. He caught my eye by using his signature posting style to deflect questions about the game, using it almost as a shield. His response to Golden’s case against him has been fairly feeble IMO. Then, when folks start mentioning his name, while feeling rather cool about DDL and Enrique, Nutella and DFaraday swoop the fuck in. Too clean.

DFaraday. Dude ain’t Tarzan, so his randomly swinging into the thread on a goddamn vineyard place a decisive vote feels out of place. Just bizarre behavior, and I don’t get/buy his stated motivations.

Fuck it, I’ll take a page from Mac’s book and attempt to name the baddie team: Nutella, Turnip Head, and DFaraday.

Mark it down folks.

#3309

Whenever I cram-read ten pages and author a wallpost on my phone, I feel like I should get a mafia metal or soenthing

#3310

I only skimmed Golden's case against me but it felt like he was saying the same things DH and Enrique and etc felt before but making it look like he was the one having an epiphany.

#3311

Said before*

#3312

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:50 am and don't say I haven't considered the possibility that TH is bad and manipulated me. I considered that in the ship chat for a bit before Colin died. When Colin flipped civ that possibility completely went away. Just trust me on that one.

Why did Colin's civ flip cause that?

I am sure you realise that it is much harder to formulate a scum read of someone you share BTSC with. The psychology is similar to Stockholm Syndrome. When you are able to have intimate interpersonal communication with someone it is human nature to presume the best in them and rationalise all the bad stuff away subconsciously. It makes sense to be more sceptical of your teammates as a rule because of this. Defending them from people who are less blind to their bad behaviour because of what they said to you in private quarters is anti-town play whether or not it may seem like it.

#3313

Yo, [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention], should I pick up something at the store?

#3314

Votes Golden

Ok I need to study now

#3315

Throwing a vote onto Turnip Head because a 4-way tie would be quite illuminating

#3316

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:58 am Meaning also he would have taken a HUGE risk. Like, a risk that mafia just don't take.

Oh more posts came. I'm gonna catch up fully before I post again.

#3317

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 pm Votes Golden

Ok I need to study now

Nah, I don’t like this.

Might change to DDL if Golden’s still in the lead by EOD

#3318

DDL just got his vote off Enrique. The prophecy is fulfilled.

#3319

hello everybody i'm getting out of class rn. i had some ridiculous arguments today so i am FIRED up and i am ready to nail ddl when i get home.

sorry for absence

#3320

Contrary to popular belief I haven't felt that bad about Enrique since d1.

I mean I still feel bad but I can see multiple worlds where I'm wrong.

#3321

I’m just gonna sit over here and be sung about totally solving the game

#3322

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:30 pm hello everybody i'm getting out of class rn. i had some ridiculous arguments today so i am FIRED up and i am ready to nail ddl when i get home. sorry for absence

#3323

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:31 pm I’m just gonna sit over here and be sung about totally solving the game

Smug

Goddamn rectangle with Shiite keyboard

#3324

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm Yeah, screw it. Golden is bad. We've been on to you for a while and you keep weaseling your way out of the spotlight with your supatown reputation. I'm done falling for the act. We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago and we can't afford to let you last longer.

This is a weeeeeirrrrrd post.

"We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago"

What buddies? Are you saying that you know who all the Mafia are? If so then why haven't you said anything?

Everything about this post pings me. The timing coming after DDL's plea to emotion is also contributing.

#3325

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:30 pm Contrary to popular belief I haven't felt that bad about Enrique since d1.

I mean I still feel bad but I can see multiple worlds where I'm wrong.

So you say this now? After allowing the DDL vs. Enrique material to linger since then?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3326

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm Yeah, screw it. Golden is bad. We've been on to you for a while and you keep weaseling your way out of the spotlight with your supatown reputation. I'm done falling for the act. We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago and we can't afford to let you last longer.
This is a weeeeeirrrrrd post.

"We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago"

What buddies? Are you saying that you know who all the Mafia are? If so then why haven't you said anything?

Everything about this post pings me. The timing coming after DDL's plea to emotion is also contributing.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3327

Wrote it before seeing ddls post

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3328

Also lol at inh. Nice try dude

#3329

Inch coming in and validating me even though he's a scumread. Feels weird man

I am on phone, dinner with Luna.

Hot potato Nutella would be an option for me.

Not surw to stay I enriqu

#3330

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:33 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm Yeah, screw it. Golden is bad. We've been on to you for a while and you keep weaseling your way out of the spotlight with your supatown reputation. I'm done falling for the act. We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago and we can't afford to let you last longer.
If yall wanna jump on Golden I guess I'd do that.

You know Golden is destined to flip town here right? Like this is just a bunch of people hoping to get their revenge on him for years of owning you.

Turnip Head said that he has spoken at length about his scum read of Golden.
I asked him to point at the good bits and his just made a new post summarising a vague read.
Nutella offers no argument.
You just sheep vote.

I would love to be able to contribute to a correct lynch of Golden (it'd be a dream come true for me) but this one is a witch hunt, pure and simple.

#3331

The only thing that has changed about my reads right now is that nutella has dropped. She is cheerleading a bad lynch. I wouldn't support a CFD of her. The subject of the day was DDL vs. Enrique. Well neither of them have done much to dissuade me. For all their bluster they have barely engaged with each other today. I am more confident than ever that they were distancing scum partners.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3332

Like I get why I look bad. I say whats on my mind and it always comes out looking sketchy. But the mafia love that and are taking advantage of it.

#3333

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:47 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:33 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm Yeah, screw it. Golden is bad. We've been on to you for a while and you keep weaseling your way out of the spotlight with your supatown reputation. I'm done falling for the act. We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago and we can't afford to let you last longer.
If yall wanna jump on Golden I guess I'd do that.

You know Golden is destined to flip town here right? Like this is just a bunch of people hoping to get their revenge on him for years of owning you.

Turnip Head said that he has spoken at length about his scum read of Golden.
I asked him to point at the good bits and his just made a new post summarising a vague read.
Nutella offers no argument.
You just sheep vote.

I would love to be able to contribute to a correct lynch of Golden (it'd be a dream come true for me) but this one is a witch hunt, pure and simple.

I trust you I'll go where you want.

#3334

My biggest stinker for voting for DDL is his fit today makes me nervous.

#3335

There is no case on Golden. I asked for one and got vague answers. I want to lynch scum Golden too guys but I am not lynching town Golden because of a witch hunt. Show me how he is scum Golden.

#3336

Back in 30.

#3337

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:43 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:30 pm Contrary to popular belief I haven't felt that bad about Enrique since d1.

I mean I still feel bad but I can see multiple worlds where I'm wrong.
So you say this now? After allowing the DDL vs. Enrique material to linger since then?

Most of the "material" is snarky remarks, you guys wrote the rest yourselves.

#3338

Lol honestly fuck it I feel like I put a good deal of effort into linking DDL to Sokoth, and that case (admittedly my case) Makes sense to me. I don't like playing mafia based on "feelings" and using emotion to govern my decision making.

Fuck it, be mad at me or w/e Voting DDL

#3339

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:47 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:33 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm Yeah, screw it. Golden is bad. We've been on to you for a while and you keep weaseling your way out of the spotlight with your supatown reputation. I'm done falling for the act. We should have lynched you and your buddies days ago and we can't afford to let you last longer.
If yall wanna jump on Golden I guess I'd do that.

You know Golden is destined to flip town here right? Like this is just a bunch of people hoping to get their revenge on him for years of owning you.

Turnip Head said that he has spoken at length about his scum read of Golden.
I asked him to point at the good bits and his just made a new post summarising a vague read.
Nutella offers no argument.
You just sheep vote.

I would love to be able to contribute to a correct lynch of Golden (it'd be a dream come true for me) but this one is a witch hunt, pure and simple.

My problem is that Golden's case against me is fake as hell.

Hes defending me for the whole game. Then suddenly he comes here and says "Guys, guys. I had an epiphany. What if... DDL tried to save Sokoth? And what if he pushed the CFD on Wilgy to lynch him? I think I just solved the game".

Eh... DH has been saying the same thing since d4?

#3340

I dunno reading the post above it feels like Im reaching just like my Marmot Meta Theory but whatever what can I lose

#3341

No one said a word about Nutella until she pushed for Golden tbh

#3342

TH is Mafia. I just realised he slipped.

#3343

A real one btw. Not a fake one.

#3344

Will explain when I get to work in 10 mins.

#3345

#3346

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:09 pm TH is Mafia. I just realised he slipped.

You absolute saucy minx.

#3347

Trust me you guys are gonna lynch TH off the back of this

#3348

Get outta here Dougall

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3349

This better be good

#3350

Might as well start voting for him in prep

Who killed our lovely juliets?