Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

[Epignosis]

Why you shruggin

I posted the first shrug before I saw your post.

TH posted about it in the yq thread like the other day dude lol

Does everyone have access to our ship?

[nutella]

Why you shruggin

I posted the first shrug before I saw your post.

TH posted about it in the yq thread like the other day dude lol

Does everyone have access to our ship?

That's not even remotely relevant to my point

[Epignosis]

Why you shruggin

I posted the first shrug before I saw your post.

TH posted about it in the yq thread like the other day dude lol

Does everyone have access to our ship?

That's not even remotely relevant to my point

What is the point?

[nutella]

Why you shruggin

I posted the first shrug before I saw your post.

TH posted about it in the yq thread like the other day dude lol

Does everyone have access to our ship?

That's not even remotely relevant to my point

What is the point?

That it's weird that you kept acting clueless after TH revealed it here

[Epignosis]

Why you shruggin

I posted the first shrug before I saw your post.

TH posted about it in the yq thread like the other day dude lol

Does everyone have access to our ship?

That's not even remotely relevant to my point

What is the point?

That it's weird that you kept acting clueless after TH revealed it here

What does that have to do with TH's post in the ship thread?

[nutella]

That you should have known about it and have no reason to pretend otherwise here, especially considering you already admitted to not having it. Whatever this isn't important at all.

[Epignosis]

That you should have known about it and have no reason to pretend otherwise here, especially considering you already admitted to not having it. Whatever this isn't important at all.

It never was important.

Spoiler: show

The second shrug

Spoiler: show

was a joke.

[Turnip Head]

Fellas fellas

Let's sort this out at home

Nut I think what epi meant to ask was can the ship thread be viewed during the Day which the answer is yes

[Turnip Head]

Did anyone else get visited by the ghost of Glorfindel last night tho

[Turnip Head]

We discussed dfaraday to some degree of length at Yun Qui and even tried to shoot him. Serenity was a hive of scum and villainy so who knows what they talked about... I'm wondering if Bonnie Mac has been operating, as a group, with a similar sort of certainty about DF as we have beeb?

[Epignosis]

Fellas fellas

Let's sort this out at home

Nut I think what epi meant to ask was can the ship thread be viewed during the Day which the answer is yes

Actually, I thought nutella was going somewhere different at first. When she clarified, I realized she wasn't going there. That's cool.

My intention was not just putting pressure on people in the thread.

My intention was also seeing if there was any indication that any remaining mafia knew I didn't have a gun.

DH spoiled my fun.

[Turnip Head]

Yeah I assumed you were waving it around like a madman for the lols. Bit of a wasted opportunity imo we should have hammed it up more

[Turnip Head]

Same goes for Enrique we talked a bit about him too

[Epignosis]

Yeah I assumed you were waving it around like a madman for the lols. Bit of a wasted opportunity imo we should have hammed it up more

I'm satisfied. I got a lot of people talking about the grenade. I'd like people using that as a point of discussion alongside Sokoth, Erique, and who was on what ship when.

I don't think mafia have many places to hide. In many ways, that grenade was a foolish move.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[mention]Golden[/mention]

Wheres mah money

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Mentions of DharmaHelper by Enrique

Moved vote from Luna to DharmaHelper. Will you hire me, friend?

Hey Glorf if you vote for DH I will move one of my votes to you.

Another vote change. He did one of those with INH, didn't he? I'm now inclined to think one of DH and INH is bad. He is also negotiating with Glorf to get a vote. And wants to join DH's crew from the start.

Welcome Owner of a Lonely Heart. No mutiny pls.

Why are you implying a mutiny? You talk of loyalty and then your first instinct is to prep the stranger as if you expect for them to have no loyalty to you when I, in fact, chose to be here.

I agree. We should just lynch DH now and accept glorious civvie Glorfindel as our new leader.

Joke post, but Enrique makes a lot of those with DH. He is Enrique's buddy. I'd say this looks good for DH, it's too obvious.

I kinda owed it to DH... we were doing great as a team in FWWM right until Colin recruited me lol.

See above.

I'm incredibly pissed that Mac was lynched and my crew has been cursed ever since.

holy shit I just read the ship thread this is incredible levels of cursed i'm sorry

Crew stuff. Some more buddying I guess.

I sense very little logical continuity to his posts. Each vote is just whatever looks convenient at the time. This DH post calling him out is great:

Accuses me on his big post, and passes the ball to DH while at it.

I do think it's likely there's scum other than sokoth on the Luna wagon. I don't think it's DDL. That leaves DH, owner and inh.

It's not Owner.

My dudes I put SQ on the poll rather than (allegedly) Any other civ?

(It's DDL).

See above.

Spoiler: show

SokothQultuq
7
39%


Voters: novaselinenever, Lunalee, speedchuck, Turnip Head, nutella, DFaraday, Kylemii

DrWilgy
10
48%
Voters: ColinIsCool, Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, insertnamehere, novaselinenever, DrWilgy, Epignosis, Lunalee, nutella, Turnip Head

Nova and Nutella both voted for Dr. Wilgy and SQ.

But Wilgy was a civ?

He was yes.

Ok I don't follow you.

Not really making a point to follow tbh.

[/spoiler]

Pretty sure they both voted for Mac on day 1 too. Luna also voted for all 3 lynchees iirc. Did anyone save the Day 1 poll?

Adding corrections to DH's vote analysis posts. In other words, more buddying.

DH did you see the Epi posts about DF's timestamps around the SQ lynch? I don't think the team-o-meter is quite at "0%". It's not just what players say but the context around their saying it.

I agree with the DF post saying SQ's freakout was a pretty clear giveaway (or whatever he said) but it's curious that that was the one thing he engaged with after being MIA for days.

Again using DH as an platform, but to throw shit at DF.

We're gonna keep focusing on individual sentences that don't lead anywhere but each day we'll have a different way to read them. "Well, his treating Wilgy and Marmot in specific separate ways didn't work out, but surely this third instance will." It's not that there's nothing to his post (he defends DDL in the same post and that's concrete and out there), but we probably shouldn't just focus on awkward phrasing and use it as evidence of, I mean, nothing in particular? It is different from Wilgy only in that it literally says something different and is shorter / less involved.

I prefer DH's method of focusing on people's dialogue around Sokoth. That Golden post was golden.

Now praising DH's method.

DH do you have any particular plans for you vote?

Glorfindel, are you just gonna waste it again?

Coordinating votes.

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Ok, remember what I said about INH being Enrique's best friend?

Enrique is DH's best friend.

He is with DH, all game. He praises and uses his methods, considers his opinion, makes him captain and joins his crew, talks about crew stuff in the thread.

Honestly? I think he is mostly kissing his captain's feet. And also buddying with a civ so he can stay good with someone. Mafia doesn't need to do this in thread, just like the INH thing is unecessary.

Funny enough, I did say above that one of DH and Enrique were bad due to the late vote changes on Day 0, but I dunno, that's just statistics. Post-wise, they both look civ, but of course I could be wrong.

Need to do the other way around. Onwards to analyse DH's 400+ posts.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Mentions of Enrique by DharmaHelper

Moved vote from Luna to DharmaHelper. Will you hire me, friend?

Yeah sure why not

He hires him. Sure why not.

Changing vote from TH to inh.

Changing my vote from Enrique to Turnip Head

Uh... what? It seems he doesn't like Enrique's vote change and wants to deny him.

DharmaHelper offers Enrique a position on Serenity

But hires him.

-> I think DDL looks bad but I'm not sure
-> I also think he's acting suspicious

This is pathetic.

I haven't done my intended big post yet as far as "everyone I suspect and why" but in my catching up just on the posts I've missed since last night this one caught my eye. You trippin boss.

This is a slow day, with people who normally post a lot being happy not to say much, with a bunch of them accusing me softly but not actually going through with it.

It sounds like a civ lynch in the making. Not necessarily of me, but of some low resiatance wagon that baddies manage to latch on.

I want to prevent that shit. I want drama. I want scumhunting. I want arguing. This day 1 is too cool for my tastes.

You want to prevent mafia from latching on to a low resistance civ lynch but


"You're in" on the Enrique lynch because "something" about his posts felt......like salad.

Somebody come get your mans.

I have to agree with Colin on Enrique. Felt like he was just saying stuff to say stuff.

Haven't sorted out where I am on Golden/Nova yet. Which is kinda weird because usually I'd be on Golden's side in a heartbeat, but I'm not feeling it so far.

And the award for most-likely to be mafia goes to....

Anyway I'm officially all caught up and here are my incomplete thoughts:

DDL keeps on doing suspicious shit. His vote for Enrique and the "reason" he gives for it is either bait to get him intentionally lynched or just..bad because he's mafia? Either way I don't have any problems giving him what he wants.

The Golden/Nova fight - Golden looks the most civ to me. Particularly nova's first response looks the most bad. instead of "You're wrong and here's why" we get "You're lying and you're bad." which is inherently aggressive and I think indicative of someone who is not so much looking to defend themselves as they are looking to deflect legitimate suspicion by way of illegitimate suspicion.

Nutella because in the process of me writing this post, she posted and tipped her hand a bit maybe:

I have to agree with Colin on Enrique. Felt like he was just saying stuff to say stuff.

Haven't sorted out where I am on Golden/Nova yet. Which is kinda weird because usually I'd be on Golden's side in a heartbeat, but I'm not feeling it so far.

"Just saying stuff to say stuff." = Mafia.

*incredibly cool backflip onto a stage filed with notes*

Spoiler: show

My bonds with Luna and TH are special and inviolable

I really have not thought about this very much I guess that would make sense

Of the five currently-tied players, I'm not super enthused about Golden and TH, mainly because I find them fairly hard to read, and both of them seem to be campaigning heartily. Then again, they'd probably want the mantle of captain regardless of alignment.

If people think that they can easily catch Golden and TH if they turn out to be scum, then by all means, vote for both of them. Unfortunately, I don't think I can, so either of them being captain makes me a little nervous.

*Pastes this post into my INH Scrapbook of Mysteries for future scrutiny*

Aw now I have no votes. And someone who's not even playing has one.

I just realised TH offered jobs to all three people I publicly said I was offering jobs to

This after he deliberately voted in a way that pushed me out of top 4 when he voted.

Before I overreact, opinions please. Would town TH deliberately bait me?

My crew picks have nothing to do with whatever you're doing. I've got #squad #goals

This is a #TownieTurbup.

Sup sacks. Sackdougall here to show you my sack.

Golden and Mac team up with Goldman Sachs and get gold in sacks

Seems like an awful lot of "saying stuff to say stuff" to me but what the hell do I know.

DH, why are DDL and Nut suspects for voicing the same suspicion I did in a similar manner, but I’m not? I can see a scum piggy backing on any potential wagon so long as they don’t have to stick their neck out too far but we three pretty much seem to be saying the same thing, so why do I get a pass?

Because I haven't had the time to read you specifically yet.

In hunkering down and reading Colin I've noted that apart from "Enrique bad" he tends to waffle on who he suspects and trusts. A weak Enrique vote and a sporadic nature don't ring civ to me, necessarily but I do suspect the people following such a dumb case more than the guy who made it.

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy
2
3%


Voters: Owner of a Lonely Heart, ColinIsCool

In case DDL is bad.

I don’t know why I voted for him tbh. I guess I interpreted his behavior differently from you and I have reservations about your case but it’s not bad.

I kinda think the scum would have been less likely to campaign as captains because it might open them up to being lynched more easily (possibly, idk, that might not be an accurate understanding of the rules) but then again that might be me projecting my own feelings had I been in that position.

I think Epi looks like he did as town in Retro. Golden as well but I think Nova is townish too. Guess what motherfuckers, I’ve vacillated back to calling everybody town again

Owner sketched me out a lil too

Owner sketched me out a lil too

Tell me more. :P

I take it back, your ISO was cleaner than I thought and I’m not voting a new player D1 anyway

Colin thoughts:

"Kinda" this "maybe" that. Very nebulous thoughts and suspects (again, apart from "Enrique bad" which seems to be the one suspicion Colin is willing to hold for more than an hour) He said "others" pinged him a bit but if you can find evidence of that, God bless. If I had to put a number on it I'd say 55-65% chances Colin's bad.

Oh this is interesting. There is a tell in the MafiaScum called "Chainsaw Defense", that states someone is bad when they attack the person who is attacking a mafioso. This is a Texas Chainsaw Massacre. DH attacks me, Nutella and Enrique on the grounds of making crappy Enrique cases. It looks so bad for DH it might go around and become good again, I suppose.

I feel like a lot of the ongoing discussions are dead-ends. GTH I don't think DDL is bad, he's just being really clumsy lol. Mac is laying pretty low, but we did just start and I don't think his activity so far is indicative of alignment. Glorfindel is all over sig for what looks like nothing to me but... I remember Glorf's first game, and I believe the talk about his meta. sig has been fine.

Got a funny feeling about speedchuck but he hasn't been around a lot and I don't want to contribute to a possible pile-up. Leaving a placeholder vote on Colin for now for no good reason.

If Ifs and buts were candy and nuts, huh Enrique?

This is the post that has everybody at half-mast ready to get their lynch on. As things go its not the most suspicious thing that's happened today. Much like Colin, very indecisive and straddling the fence as to what Enrique actually thinks. Not a civ quality, I would think.

Enri's putting his thoughts out there, but he's hedging his bets way too much here and way too early on in the day phase. I don't like this post, but I don't think its a slam dunk either.

Someone asks DH what he thinks of Enrique and... he has beef too with him. He exposes Enrique's word usage. Now that's nice.

Enrique Send me 300.

Actually nevermind I''ll send you some money and you buy something in a second.

Anyway Enrique Could you do me a favor and buy a Diplo item for tonight fam.

Hmm ok.

Enrique:

Spoiler: show

Exactly 0 mentions of SQ At all.
Voted For SQ: N/a
Teammate-o-meter: 50-65%

DH doesn't do much in this stretch of the game, as I have mentioned. But he comes up with his Sokoth analysis.

Pretty high score for Enrique. Looks good.

Enrique:

Spoiler: show

Exactly 0 mentions of SQ At all.
Voted For SQ: N/a
Teammate-o-meter: 50-65%

Epignosis:

Spoiler: show

I'm a fucking moron.

No mentions of SQ until after his lynch flip

Vote for SQ: N/a

Teammate-o-meter Rating: 45-50%

Glorfindel:

Spoiler: show

If anybody’s interested in my two cents, I think the case against Dan (SokothQultuq) is pretty flimsy and lacks substance. His defence (above) is reasoned, rational and effective. Right now my level of interest in voting for him might be best described as lower than a snake’s belly...

Voted for SQ: N/a

Teammate-o-Meter: 15%

Would be cool to point out I wasn't online for all of Day 2 when Sokoth became and ceased to be a thing.

Yeah you weren't here to either lynch someone you thought was bad or you weren't here to defend a teammate in a tight lynch. 50% is generous.

Rough.

DH do you have any particular plans for you vote?

Glorfindel, are you just gonna waste it again?

Doesn't look like my vote matters at this stage, does it?

The reply to Enrique's attempt at coordinating votes.

Now to do some score aggregation:

Highest Scores:
DDL - 80%
Golden - 65%
Enrique: 50-65%
Epignosis: 45-50%
INH: 45-70%


23 player game with a SK (22 players left) Means we're comfortably looking at a 4 person Mafia team, yeah?

SQ
DDL
INH/GOLDEN/ENRIQUE
Possibly Sig or Lap

Fuckin' case closed lads.

Calls Enrique a likely baddie but doesn't lock it. This is pretty neutral in my book.

Based on interactions with Mac in the ship thread I dunno if Lap is bad. Sig still could be. Between INH/GOLDEN/ENRIQUE I feel much better about lynching Golden, Then Enrique, then INH.

Lines him up for a lynch. Still neutral.

Can someone tell me who presented the most comprehensive case on Golden, DDL, and Enrique? I'll then look at the iso of that person or persons. I'm trying to get a feel for why they are in the lead for votes.

I dunno about Golden and Enrique but if you want a good idea about (my) DDL suspicion you can feel free to check out this post here

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 94#p477694

- Casually making an excuse for SQ ("He doesn't play very often, that could color how I see his posts"/"If he's a newbie he doesn't look that bad")

- Resisting the SQ lynch ("This is bullshit/Not feeling this SQ Thing")

There's other stuff that I find DDL suspect for but those are the juiciest peaches.

- DH what about Enrique?
- I dunno about Enrique but would you like to hear about our lord and savior DDL?

Slightly bad look.

@Enrique
@insertnamehere
@DFaraday

Who should I have put on the poll and why?

Cool post. Specially because all of those are in the poll today and are people who have some degree of widespread suspicion. Are all of them DH's crewmates? Not sure about DF. But it's like DH is testing waters. The problem is that this is a completely harmless question. Of course you can say you wanted to have your teammate in the poll but doesn't. Enrique replies with "DF".

If town loses this, this will be the main reason. And I bet most of you won't even care because you decided the crew game is more fun to play or something.

Oh hey there's that scumtell you just mentioned lol

Fucking yes.

I'm pissed now.

TH says he reads me as civ but damn I broke the rule crew sancticity so let's lynch a civ in order to make people realize that crews are more important than everything else.

It already happened once in this game I can't believe it's happening again. It's Day Fucking 5 and people are still seeing crewmembers are teammates and other crews as adversaries.

TFW You put Enrique who you're pretty chill about on the poll because other people suspect him and maybe theres pay dirt there but then DDL gets real mad.

DH is a fan of The Great DDL vs Enrique Face-Off. I don't contribute to it and he's frustrated.

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Neutral, neutral, neutral. There is some beef but never strong. The Chainsaw thing I explained above. Some crew coordination. He puts Enrique on his scum thing but that's harmless. Everything here is harmless.

Overall a slight bad look for DH imo, but is it enough to offset the good look from Enrique's massive pocketing of DH in the vice-versa interaction? I... don't think so.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Ok overall, this is what I think, analysing only interactions with everyone's favorite Mexican Sunglasses Monkey.

INH > TH = DH > DF

Veredict: lynch DFaraday.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

This day is boring.

Is it because mafia decided to give up on DF or are we fucking up?

Are there even baddies in this poll?

[Epignosis]

This day is boring.

Is it because mafia decided to give up on DF or are we fucking up?

Are there even baddies in this poll?

It's because DF needs to be lynched.

[Golden]

@Golden

Wheres mah money

Good to know you don’t have any either. I suspect Mac hasn’t distributed it. Either that or he kept it all.

[DharmaHelper]

I've just had a very busy two days so thats why I'm super chill this phase. Tomorrow is busy for me but I'll get a vote in before EoD.

I also see no reason DF shouldn't be lynched.

[speedchuck]

@Golden

Wheres mah money

Good to know you don’t have any either. I suspect Mac hasn’t distributed it. Either that or he kept it all.

If that continues...

[Golden]

@Golden

Wheres mah money

Good to know you don’t have any either. I suspect Mac hasn’t distributed it. Either that or he kept it all.

If that continues...

I’ll ask daisy.

[Turnip Head]

[juliets]

Perfect! Where is everyone?

[DharmaHelper]

Perfect! Where is everyone?

I'm hosting DnD any minute, for the next several hours. Anyway, Voting DFaraday

[juliets]

Hey guys, DFaraday stopped in and voted for himself. Hmm.

[speedchuck]

Hey guys, DFaraday stopped in and voted for himself. Hmm.

That's fine. He has resigned himself to this.

[insertnamehere]

Seems like there's not much I can do to stop DF's inevitable demise, or much reason I'd want to stop it.

I'm a little bit worried that this day's gonna get bonkers and unpredictable about an hour or two before the EOD, for some bizarre CFD-based reason. I'll try to check in, but my evening's a little crazy. (Gonna see 2001 in IMAX)

[Turnip Head]

I think DH comes out of ddls analysis looking pretty good. Luffy did you do ones for Golden and speedchuck and I missed it somewhere?

[DharmaHelper]

I think DH comes out of ddls analysis looking pretty good. Luffy did you do ones for Golden and speedchuck and I missed it somewhere?

Like a bleached butthole. Overall looking good, but something still stinks.

[speedchuck]

I think DH comes out of ddls analysis looking pretty good. Luffy did you do ones for Golden and speedchuck and I missed it somewhere?

I don't recall one. You should go for it.

[Turnip Head]

But I want Luffy to do it

[nutella]

He said he was only doing them for the people on the poll. But we have all this dead time today so might as well

[Turnip Head]

I'll give him 50 Firefly Bucks if he gets them posted by deadline

[Turnip Head]

I need two glasses of wine before I sit down in front of Golden's iso

[Turnip Head]

[mention]nutella[/mention] is Last.fm worth using? I use Spotify pretty much exclusively.

And im mirin' your The National scrobbles I guess it's cool for stats and stuff huh

[nutella]

@nutella is Last.fm worth using? I use Spotify pretty much exclusively.

And im mirin' your The National scrobbles I guess it's cool for stats and stuff huh

I use Spotify exclusively, I just have it set up to automatically scrobble (just cause I like to keep the lists/stats/records of what I listen to) but I don't actively use it for anything else

[nutella]

so yeah if you make an account you can link it in your Spotify preferences and boom you have stats ( not retroactive though of bc Spotify doesn't save them but from then on it'll record)

[Epignosis]

He said he was only doing them for the people on the poll. But we have all this dead time today so might as well

If you think it's dead time, do something about that.

[nutella]

He said he was only doing them for the people on the poll. But we have all this dead time today so might as well

If you think it's dead time, do something about that.

Sorry I'm working, can't really pull an iso or anything rn. Maybe in a couple hours.

[Turnip Head]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] what has life been like on the Bonnie Mac the past couple of nights. Did anything notably change once Mac took over?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I think DH comes out of ddls analysis looking pretty good. Luffy did you do ones for Golden and speedchuck and I missed it somewhere?

Nah just the people in the poll for now. Might do others later.

Unfortunately I'm not Jay so I don't get an intrinsic pleasure from ISOing people. I just have desire of winning the game that makes me willing to brace through weeks of shitposting, to an extent.

[speedchuck]

@speedchuck what has life been like on the Bonnie Mac the past couple of nights. Did anything notably change once Mac took over?

Glorf stopped talking.
Mac isn't giving us our danged money today.
Other than that... not really. Maybe a little quieter over all, but we lost some of the louder members, and Mac/Golden haven't been super loud in thread today either.

[Turnip Head]

We haven't gotten our money yet either btw

[Dragon D. Luffy]

One upside of someone other than me doing it is that you can do mine.

[Golden]

@speedchuck what has life been like on the Bonnie Mac the past couple of nights. Did anything notably change once Mac took over?

Glorf stopped talking.
Mac isn't giving us our danged money today.
Other than that... not really. Maybe a little quieter over all, but we lost some of the louder members, and Mac/Golden haven't been super loud in thread today either.

Macs dead. Would be hard for him to be super loud

I have things I have to do leaking out my ears. I won’t be back today.

[juliets]

I'm not sure if I'll be around at EOD. Have a date with my hubby to watch a movie.

[Spacedaisy]

I would like to say you guys have been very patient and understanding of me. I expected my game would start a few days after the move, then the move kept getting put back. This has been a really tough move for me in a lot of ways beyond just the physical act of moving. I haven’t solo hosted for a long time, I was going to have a cohost, but that didn’t work out. As a result things (like the shop) have fallen through the cracks at times, and a couple phase ends have been pushed back. Unfortunately I need some time to decompress with my husband tonight. So this Day post will be delayed until tomorrow morning. I apologize, this isn’t ideal for you guys, but for the sake of my sanity.

You guys have made this game amazing, I apologize for this delay and hope it doesn’t ruin the experience for you.