Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

#4751

Golden maybe. Or INH if he's bullshitting us. I don't know.

I gave you money last night. Did you buy something with it?

#4752

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:51 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:48 pm Mafia has to kill juliets because she is fucking Glorf.

Next.

Why is TH bad?
Who should I vote for instead, DDL? Who do you suspect are the mafia?

Right now I'm mostly leaning into voting Epi but honestly I'm not sure about anyone.

#4753

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:06 pm Golden maybe. Or INH if he's bullshitting us. I don't know.

I gave you money last night. Did you buy something with it?

No.

#4754

Why is TH bad?

#4755

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:07 pm Why is TH bad?

Because his role card says he is.

#4756

Here's how I'm seeing things right now:

I think TH and DDL are bad. It's mylo so if I'm right we take one out, they NK, and its mylo again. If I'm wrong we lose. Nobody really seems all too interested in trying, so either we win on my back or we deservedly lose and the mafia deservedly win.

Fair shake, in my view.

#4757

Right now my best theory is that it's Golden and Epi, but I'm not entirely convinced.

I'm not entirely convinced by anything.

The problem is that TH and Golden seen to be the goto counter-wagons against the succesful baddie lynches we've had so far. Golden more than TH I think. Which is confusing me.

I feel like we would profit a lot from applying one of those team matching or GTH methods Jay likes to use but I have a hard time remembering how they work exactly if Jay himself is not playing. Could use a having a guide in the Lounge or something. Meh.

#4758

Another point we kind of abandoned: who used the grenade in yunqui?

It wasn't me. It's unlikely it was TH or Epi. But. Golden/DH pairing is impossible because of Epi's lie detect. So we gotta assume mafia indeed risked their neck by throwing a grenade on a ship that had a members of them.

Did they risk their neck with two members in it? If we assume they wouldn't, the Epi/TH pairing becomes very unlikely too. Let's exclude it for the sake of the argument.

So

Golden/TH
Golden/Epi
Epi/DH

Are the remaining possible pairings.

The first pairing has a ridiculous amount of bussing involved. The two have been at each other's necks all game. Do we buy it?

#4759

For now I won't

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Feels like occam's razor.

#4760

Hes also the one who looks the least good regarding Ebrique interactions iirc.

One problem is the roasting of nutella last day. I thought for a time Epi wouldn't be so cruel to bash her knowing she was a civ. But I pointed that out in our ship and Golden disagreed. And another thing, when I made that point, Epi seemed to be annoyed at it. Fustration for what amounted to an attack against his character, maybe?

#4761

Epi is also the one who looks the least good regarding Enrique interactions iirc.

One problem is the roasting of nutella last day. I thought for a time Epi wouldn't be so cruel to bash her knowing she was a civ. But I pointed that out in our ship and Golden disagreed. And another thing, when I made that point, Epi seemed to be annoyed at it. Fustration for what amounted to an attack against his character, maybe?

#4762

Sorry for the double post, the forum glitched.

#4763

I dunno a shitload of people moved off TH when Nutella imploded.

#4764

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:32 am DDL didn't like the Sokoth train. Once he said that he was probably committed to it if bad, and he did see it through.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:54 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm Luna and speed are the ones I feel best about out of that lynch.
I don't feel that good about Luna, she was kind of hesitating about voting Sokoth, until I told her it was self-defense, and even then she took ser sweet time.

I think there are a few who look worse though. Namely nova, DH, Colin and maybe you too.

TH also gives me chills because he disappeared from the game right before the Sokoth wagon started.
DDL, explain this. Why would it give you chills that TH disappeared from the thread just before the Sokoth wagon started? Apparently TH was first or second on the train...

Let's say TH votes Sokoth, not thinking it will actually lead to a lynch. He doesn't say much, memes a little, drops a vote and leaves.

Lately he comes online and sees a gazillion votes on Sokoth. He can defend Sokoth, or he can help push the wagon, or he can stick his head in the sand and hope they get lucky and someone else gets lynched. At the time it felt to me like he did the later.

The fact someone told me he did talk more about Sokoth in the Yun qui chat made me feel a little better about it, though.

#4765

Fam DDL's SQ interactions are the most trash he's probably his teammate.

#4766

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:53 pm I dunno a shitload of people moved off TH when Nutella imploded.

So? TH is a debatable lynch. Nutella is imploding and contradicting herself like crazy. Why will a baddie offer any resistance to the nutella lynch? Fucking juliets jumped on her wagon by reflex. Her post about TH was so sudden and so bad it melted the entire discussion and forced everyone to vote for her.

Granted now I'm being forced to update my nutella definitions and assume in the future that she doesn't have conviction about anything ever, but at the time, I did believe she had conviction on TH and that post was unbelievable.

#4767

DH what do you think of Epi?

[mention]Golden[/mention] , [mention]insertnamehere[/mention], [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] what do you'll think of Epi?

I'm guilty of forgetting about Epi all game, like someone pointed out, but I think everyone else is. Epi has avoided the spotlight in this game like a boss. What do we think of him?

#4768

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:59 pm DH what do you think of Epi?

@Golden , @insertnamehere, @Turnip Head what do you'll think of Epi?

I'm guilty of forgetting about Epi all game, like someone pointed out, but I think everyone else is. Epi has avoided the spotlight in this game like a boss. What do we think of him?

I’m going to wait till I iso him to decide.

My approach is effectively looking for the most likely team, just as yours is.

#4769

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:59 pm DH what do you think of Epi?

@Golden , @insertnamehere, @Turnip Head what do you'll think of Epi?

I'm guilty of forgetting about Epi all game, like someone pointed out, but I think everyone else is. Epi has avoided the spotlight in this game like a boss. What do we think of him?

I think he's a sly lil turd and he could be bad.

#4770

Golden/DH: impossibru
TH/DH: impossibru
Epi/TH: requires mafia to have risked themselves pretty hard with a grenade, unlikely
Golden/TH: bussing ahoy
Epi/DH: ok
Epi/Golden: ok

DDL/DH: impossibru
DDL/Golden: requires both me and Golden to have bussed Enrique
DDL/Epi: requires me to have bussed Enrique
DDL/TH: seems plausible I guess, though I know I'm civ

#4771

If Epi is a civ, then Golden and TH are teammates and have been acting all game.

Can that be possible?

#4772

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:09 pm If Epi is a civ, then Golden and TH are teammates and have been acting all game.

Can that be possible?

Golden and TH are thespians together.

#4773

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:09 pm If Epi is a civ, then Golden and TH are teammates and have been acting all game.

Can that be possible?

I'm not above bussing! But take the tinfoil off. Bussing is what you do to reflect the mood of the thread and blend in to taking your teammate out so you look important and instrumental. It's not something you do to lead the charge, or at least it's not with me. Mafia is a numbers game first and foremost - the numbers are there to use wisely.

#4774

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:09 pm If Epi is a civ, then Golden and TH are teammates and have been acting all game.

Can that be possible?
Golden and TH are thespians together.

Or Epi is bad.

But if Epi is bad, something else bothers me. What the hell is the motivation to announce the results of the lie-detector? t basically removed three wrong pairings (DD/DH, TH/DH and Golden/DH) from the poll of possibilities.

Did Epi do it just for the wifom?

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] did Epi mention anything about buying the lie detector last night? Might explain this.

#4775

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:09 pm If Epi is a civ, then Golden and TH are teammates and have been acting all game.

Can that be possible?
I'm not above bussing! But take the tinfoil off. Bussing is what you do to reflect the mood of the thread and blend in to taking your teammate out so you look important and instrumental. It's not something you do to lead the charge, or at least it's not with me. Mafia is a numbers game first and foremost - the numbers are there to use wisely.

Either you two have been acting all game, or Epi staged a lie detector result for *reasons*.

Or insertnamehere has been fooling us all along, lol.

#4776

Very foolish to have legitimately lie detected the towniest townlock of all the whatever the hell jargon you people use to say that I'm town.

#4777

I'm probably not voting TH or DH today, though.

I haven't eliminated either, but they are the ones with the least viable pairings. DH is only bad if Epi is bad, so might as well vote Epi. TH is bad if either he and Golden were acting, or if he and Epi decided to throw a grenade on themselves for some reason.

#4778

Enrique and DF were on DH's crew, right?

Why didn't they just throw it on the Bonnie Mac? I don't believe it.

#4779

Actually DF was crew-less? I think? Doesn't matter either way. Could have thrown it on the Serenade, but didn't.

#4780

Is there any way INH could be lying?

#4781

Yeah epi mentioned the lie detector and even told us what he was checking.

Lots of suspicions have been shared in Yun qui that were only alluded to in the mainthread which is why people on my ship have a different perception of events. In my mind Yun qui was most responsible for those lynches, epi included. Nutella seemed to understand this until she imploded, I think juliets saw it too.

#4782

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:15 pm Yeah epi mentioned the lie detector and even told us what he was checking.

Lots of suspicions have been shared in Yun qui that were only alluded to in the mainthread which is why people on my ship have a different perception of events. In my mind Yun qui was most responsible for those lynches, epi included. Nutella seemed to understand this until she imploded, I think juliets saw it too.

wat

#4783

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:15 pm Is there any way INH could be lying?

It would be ballsy and rely on the actual 3P having been killed by mafia early.

I’d say chances are exceedingly low.

#4784

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:15 pm Yeah epi mentioned the lie detector and even told us what he was checking.

Lots of suspicions have been shared in Yun qui that were only alluded to in the mainthread which is why people on my ship have a different perception of events. In my mind Yun qui was most responsible for those lynches, epi included. Nutella seemed to understand this until she imploded, I think juliets saw it too.

Alright.

Let's assume you are a civ. You think Epi is a civ because of yunquiforevah or whatever. Which means DH is a civ.

That only leaves out me and Golden.

Do you think me and Golden could have both changed away from you and into Enrique in the last minute of the day?

Or is it more likely that Epi is bad?

#4785

If you have a different perceptions of events, start sharing that perception. Your crew only has two votes and one of them could be bad.

#4786

Golden/DH is an impossible pair, and I know I am a civ. There is mafia in the yun qui. That much is a fact.

#4787

Why is golden and DH an impossible pair?

#4788

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:52 pm Why is golden and DH an impossible pair?

Why would epi townclear DH in those circumstances?

#4789

Golden's appraisal of my connections with DDL are either incomplete or dishonest.

#4790

Epi basically led the case against dfaraday and he started it on the ship

#4791

I'm not convinced that DHs statement would have yielded an accurate result

#4792

I don't understand townclearing the most obvious townie in the game though.

#4793

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:48 pm Mafia has to kill juliets because she is fucking Glorf.

Does juliets' husband know?

#4794

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:53 pm Golden's appraisal of my connections with DDL are either incomplete or dishonest.

They are one sided. I haven’t read you yet. Do you disagree with my assessment from the side of reading DDL?

#4795

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:54 pm I'm not convinced that DHs statement would have yielded an accurate result

How does it get anymore accurate than "I'm good"

#4796

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:54 pm I'm not convinced that DHs statement would have yielded an accurate result

This stuff is what I’ve been saying about TH all game.

#4797

"my point is I'm good" isn't the same as "I'm good" tho

#4798

Lol golden

#4799

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:54 pm Epi basically led the case against dfaraday and he started it on the ship

I have a counterpoint for that.

It's dfaraday.

The guy was lynched by unanimity.

#4800

TH do you think I'm bad?

Who killed our lovely juliets?