Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Name some names, Chuckles.

[speedchuck]

Specifically Sloonei and Sprityo. I will have your heads on a pike. (I actually don't remember who all was here, but I think at least one of you were.)

I townread Infected Alien, LC, Mac, Nutella, and then maybe Quin and JoH.

[Marmot]

Which ping from Bullzeye are you calling forced ignorance?

I meant the game itself. Literally almost every player is name Something Man

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why do you townread Alien?

[Marmot]

I'm dipping out, feel free to lynch me tonight.

[speedchuck]

Which ping from Bullzeye are you calling forced ignorance?

The 1-24 player bit.

If it's cheekiness, that part is null-ish. But for someone saying "I read the rules" you'd thik he'd just say 4, like a reasonable person who read the roles.

I'll get you in a minute, Jack

[Lunalee]

@Marmot I ask you to give me a single read on a person. Or more if it pleases you.

And to answer this question, everyone is mafia until I have proven otherwise.

I don't like Marmot.

[speedchuck]

Why do you townread Alien?

Very initial first impression of the thread: Jay feels off, don't know why though

Jay was using a different playstyle. I read this as genuine. Alien is new to the site, new to Jay, but noticed the meta difference.

He has a town read on me?

Also is talking about what we were told in our role PMs allowed? Using that as an argument?

Ignorance of the best kind. Site-specific rules, and something the mafia wouldn't want to talk about.

JaggedJimmyJay

What's up with your alien town read?

He’s played one game with me. I was a stencil-drawn factory-built version of JJJ with all of the fixings. To start this game I am nothing of the sort. He is still new enough to my play to genuinely wonder if this is my meta:

Civilian: go ham

Mafia: dick around

Why do you think me pointing out you're off makes me town though?

Doesn't just accept a townread from JJJ as pacification. Pushes for answers.

Spoiler: show

Reads: Jack is town, sloon is mafia, mac is slightly suspicious but not as much as sloon, same with eloh

Sloon stuff all in one place, sorry if it's not in order (probably isn't):

I think the reason people suspect Quin is because his "what are tha rules " posts were the most fake-sounding

How has your read on Quin progressed since then? Who else are you looking at besides sprit? Thoughts on the Sloonei bandwagon?

Again feels like he's trying too hard. I don't believe this comes from a genuine place, asking how the read has progressed since then - he's only just said the read, why is he expecting it to have progressed at all? Just not buying it

I never suspected you, Long Con. I just wanted to make conversation happen.

Why didn't you ever suspect Long Con?

Because I just saw him as a player working on his understanding of the game and/or trying to get others involved.

I encouraged discussion of luna’s points about him because I wanted there to be a new avenue for the conversation to flow in. The posts she highlighted did reflect a pattern, so I didn’t want to deny the discussion of them. I don’t find the pattern suspicious at this time.

If you just wanted discussion out of it, why did you vote him?

i just don’t know about you sloobei

What would you like to know?

are you trying to do good sloonei things or to look like a good sloonei thing

both

Feels unnatural somehow? It seems silly since it's just a post saying 'both' but this post really pings me lol

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

why?

He's giving me funny feelings

Can you describe these funny feelings? Or tell me which posts they come from?

Feels like he's trying too hard? I just don't buy that he genuinely wants to know the description of the funny feelings or which posts they come from - I think he'd just accept it as a townie and put it down to a gut feeling or something so the fact he's trying to dig into it feels like he's just trying to look as townie as possible by questioning everything he can

I never suspected you, Long Con. I just wanted to make conversation happen.

Why didn't you ever suspect Long Con?

Because I just saw him as a player working on his understanding of the game and/or trying to get others involved.

I encouraged discussion of luna’s points about him because I wanted there to be a new avenue for the conversation to flow in. The posts she highlighted did reflect a pattern, so I didn’t want to deny the discussion of them. I don’t find the pattern suspicious at this time.

jesus christ can this get any worse

"I wanted to steer the discussion in a new direction, namely into a possible bandwagon on a player I actually don't suspect at all!"

Literally get accused of this on Day 1 of every game that I play. I want to steer the discussion in directions that I think might prove fruitful. It doesn't matter who I suspect or don't suspect off the bat, what matters is that discussion takes place so that there is something substantial to work off of in the present and future. The discussion is not intended to reflect solely on the player being discussed (Long Con in this case), but also all of the people who will participate in it afterwards (lunalee, nutella, potentially everybody else in the game). This is yuck.

If you get accused of this in every game, why did you suspect the person who found you suspicious for it? Surely you're used to it and don't see it as scummy?

Reading the thread back, I don’t like any of you motherfuckers.

Aggressive (re)-entry. This promises to be good. Right?

Hi everyone, we’re here to have a fun time and be friendly to eachother, right?! Let’s do our best to have a beautiful day

Absolute fucking scum here

Okay. Why?

I’m kidding you guys, you’re all swell. But some of you are bad.

Long Con's posts strike me weird. He apparently didn't read the rules or his role pm, and instead askes all game-mechanic questions in thread. Concerning the mafia recruitment aspect, he asks: It's still up for grabs?
Then posts a bunch of questions on how to approach this game: What are we dealing with here? How do we even mafia in this game?
Then asks, "have recruitment decisions been made?"
But then suddenly understands everything well enough to place a vote on speedchuck based on his game mechanic questions.

I don't view Long Con as being an ignorant player, which is why all his questions confuse me. Is he bad and trying to look like an ignorant townie? Or is he really that bad at reading the rules? I would be okay with voting Long Con today.

Luna’s not bad though.

Walks back the prior aggression and assigns a "not bad" read to Luna. Why?

it’s kind of fascinating to play like a goober because i have read nearly everything and still have no clue what’s going on. the only difference is my general apathy and it affects all of my reasoning and intuitive skills.

cool

Jay is apathetic because Jay is scum and he doesn’t have to put any effort into solving or reading anything, even — he just has to live or confuse the hell out of people if he can’t. I’ll take one (1) winner’s banner please

This is not a thing I could see JaggedJimmyJay doing as scum. I don't agree with this post, but I don't know if I dislike it either. I could see reason for scum Colin to want to provoke town Jay, but it doesn't have to be the case.

Good: Luna, Mac, Jack, Nutella, Speedchuck

Bad: Quin, Sloonei, Long Con, JJJ

Why? x8

I can elaborate on any of those reads upon request but my laptop is vomiting all over itself so it’s a little hard to be thorough on mobile

I see. I'll wait for all the elaboration.

[VOTE: SLOONEY] aubergine

I'll try to keep tabs on this tomorrow

In conclusion: nothing here that is explicitly bad, but there's also an absence of things that I'd say are definitively good. Imma keep an eye on Colin for now.

This whole thing felt like busy work - why did you post this if there was no conclusion from it, and no substantial takes that could generate discussion?

Also the "Walks back the prior aggression and assigns a "not bad" read to Luna. Why?" pings me because it's like he felt the need to include the "Walks back the prior aggression" part to make this line seem more noteworthy/thought out when it doesn't really mean anything to me

I could see this is a scum dipping their toe in the waters. There's a half-serious implication that Jay's behavior is out of character, which carries with it the potential suggestion that Jay is anti-town, but nutella is not directly taking a stance. Instead she's just floating the possibility that something is amiss here without actually addressing it specifically.
Or, you know, she's just observing that Jay said a weird thing.

Again feels like busywork, no conclusion, just two different interpretations so I don't really understand the purpose if he's town

I kinda like this post even though it's not entirely clear what she's saying at any point. She seems to purposefully conceal her reason for suspecting Quin earlier, and gives a vague, but not empty, explanation for her speedchuck vote. I don't take her vagueness here to be the sort of hesitant waffling that I'd associate with scum players. Rather, I see it as a player who's drawing from a real train of thought and not bothering to fill in all the blanks for the thread. There's nothing wrong with that and her words look sincere here. Townie point.

I don't understand why you think it comes from a real train of thought as opposed to hesitant waffling (personally I don't have an opinion on it) so this read feels fake as well

[VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine again. Because his posts don't offer anything strong to hold onto and if anyone's an opportunistic bad guy of those 5(!?) voters on me right now, it's him.

Holy shit 5 of you decided to vote for me? Get those off. Shameless emotional appeal incoming: I've been screaming for this game to start for a month. Don't lynch me on Day 1. Not to mention that I'm town.

This worked on me


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Jack stuff

How many bad robots do we think there are?

Good way of look at whether people read the rules or not.

This isn't a closed setup, dude. It's an open setup with most details hidden.

So how many bad robots are there?

Hottake: Only one scummed is pretending to not know how this game works and it’s probably this guy.

I like this post, town read it, don't know why but I just do

Hottakes: Nutella (in spite of SC vote) and Mac are town.

I think Jack is town, I guess I'm a sucker for his hot takes

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Eloh stuff:

So, what are we dealing with here? Closed setup, and we don't even know which roles are on the bad team.

So, what is the method of catching someone on Day 1? Ask questions and hope someone slips up?

Create a whirlwind of a thread by facilitating maximal activity. Ask questions, make comments, and hurl accusations at every opportunity. The thread needs to be a pressured and even stressful environment.

I ain’t got no time fo’ dat today so y’all get busy.

So in other words, "y'all get started and get the dirty work done and I will come back in here before the vote and make my assessment on which bandwagon I should jump on." Sounds bad to me. My first accusation is on YOU. Not only just this post. But, this post was given at12:54am. You then go on posting frequently until 3:08am. That is over 2 hours. And you have no time to ask questions, make comments, hurl accusations? There was no opportunity for that? Then you must have slept or something because you came back in the early pm posting exactly 9 hours later. At 1:48pm you talk about what you will do once you feel like actually playing the game. Again, you post frequently for 1 hour (1:48pm-2:42pm) not really saying anything. I do NOT like Jay in Mega-Man, I do not like him, Sam-I-Am.

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@Jack - I always post early on and often. I just don't often say much game related crap because I am too busy trying to keep up with the reading in the little bit of time I have to devote to mafia.

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I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have noticed this unless you were specifically eyeing jay, and I don't understand why you'd do that so I'm suspicious of this - feels like a targeted attack, agendary

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Mac stuff:

Don't have the quotes but his attention seems to be on nitpicking what, to me just seem like grammatical errors, and poking at them from the 'scumslip' angle. It feels slightly like an easy way to sink his teeth into the thread as mafia - a bit too easy/simple, and I haven't seen anything to make me think he's making any in depth reads yet, and from memory he did that pretty early on last game

But my memory sucks so

Effort. Genuine reasons for read. Reads good tone-wise.

And such. The rest of his ISO looks pretty good. He voted for Mac, and Mac could easily look scummy to someone not used to his playstyle.

He's also playing by the seat of his pants, rather than being organized. That's the kind of thing that can get you caught as scum, and based on the recent scum game he's played, I don't think he's capable of faking it that well. (No offense to Alien.)

[Jackofhearts2005]

I can dig that read.

[Turnip Head]

@Marmot I ask you to give me a single read on a person. Or more if it pleases you.

Here are 5 reads on Turnip Head.

Turnip Head
Turnip Head
Turnip Head
Turnip Head
Turnip Head

I can't believe you don't purple-read me.

[Turnip Head]

Jack, do you think I killed Jimmy?

[DFaraday]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

[speedchuck]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

No idea here.

I recommend looking at the end of day 1, or checking some of the short ISOs. It's not too much.

[Bullzeye]

Which ping from Bullzeye are you calling forced ignorance?

The 1-24 player bit.

If it's cheekiness, that part is null-ish. But for someone saying "I read the rules" you'd thik he'd just say 4, like a reasonable person who read the roles.

I'll get you in a minute, Jack

I'm a very sarcastic person.

[speedchuck]

Which ping from Bullzeye are you calling forced ignorance?

The 1-24 player bit.

If it's cheekiness, that part is null-ish. But for someone saying "I read the rules" you'd thik he'd just say 4, like a reasonable person who read the roles.

I'll get you in a minute, Jack

I'm a very sarcastic person.

Oh, suuuuure you are.

[Sloonei]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

[Sloonei]

Specifically Sloonei and Sprityo. I will have your heads on a pike. (I actually don't remember who all was here, but I think at least one of you were.)

I townread Infected Alien, LC, Mac, Nutella, and then maybe Quin and JoH.

I'm a busy boy and will make no apologies while I have the most posts in this thread.

Why do you townread Mac?

[speedchuck]

Specifically Sloonei and Sprityo. I will have your heads on a pike. (I actually don't remember who all was here, but I think at least one of you were.)

I townread Infected Alien, LC, Mac, Nutella, and then maybe Quin and JoH.

I'm a busy boy and will make no apologies while I have the most posts in this thread.

Why do you townread Mac?

Three reasons.

1. Mindmeld
2. No pings
3. It's easier to read people in a Mac-town world for now. I can rely on his intuition and see what I find.

Happy to rethink that read when I have reason to.

[speedchuck]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

[Turnip Head]

Does [mention]White[/mention] know that we've started?

[Sloonei]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

I've seen it (primarily on RYM, though) as a town role which, when killed, triggers the next day to be skipped. It's a negative ability meant to emphasize the importance of that player being kept alive.

But Epi never played on RYM and I'm not as familiar with the traditional application of this mechanism in his experience. I wouldn't doubt that it could be an anti-town ability, although this is complicated by the nature of this game in particular: none of our roles are designated GOOD or BAD. The Robot Masters all were given roles without alignments. Alignments came later.
But, of course, we don't know for sure that any of our dead players were robot masters.

[speedchuck]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

I've seen it (primarily on RYM, though) as a town role which, when killed, triggers the next day to be skipped. It's a negative ability meant to emphasize the importance of that player being kept alive.

But Epi never played on RYM and I'm not as familiar with the traditional application of this mechanism in his experience. I wouldn't doubt that it could be an anti-town ability, although this is complicated by the nature of this game in particular: none of our roles are designated GOOD or BAD. The Robot Masters all were given roles without alignments. Alignments came later.
But, of course, we don't know for sure that any of our dead players were robot masters.

Or robots at all.

[K-Ness]

Day 1, Quin and Sloonei were probably the leading players pinging me hard. Jack, while giving me a town lean, has also been pinging me.

I find it really hard to believe that so many people wouldn't bother to read the rules.

Also, can I get an understanding as to why Elohcin was a viable lynch candidate?

[speedchuck]

Day 1, Quin and Sloonei were probably the leading players pinging me hard. Jack, while giving me a town lean, has also been pinging me.

I find it really hard to believe that so many people wouldn't bother to read the rules.

Also, can I get an understanding as to why Elohcin was a viable lynch candidate?

What has pinged you about Jack?

[nutella]

Day 1, Quin and Sloonei were probably the leading players pinging me hard. Jack, while giving me a town lean, has also been pinging me.

I find it really hard to believe that so many people wouldn't bother to read the rules.

Also, can I get an understanding as to why Elohcin was a viable lynch candidate?

Spoiler alert: she wasn't

[nutella]

But yeah elaborate on your feelings about jack if you can. I'm having trouble sorting him out myself.

[Jackofhearts2005]

But yeah elaborate on your feelings about jack if you can. I'm having trouble sorting him out myself.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, do you think I killed Jimmy?

It’s a possibility.

[Lunalee]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

Dang, that last option seems far-fetched, but if that happened, whoever did it deserves to get lynched.

[Sloonei]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

Dang, that last option seems far-fetched, but if that happened, whoever did it deserves to get lynched.

Even if they were right?

[Sloonei]

It’s possible Mega Man’s lynch triggered the skipped phase.

[Lunalee]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

Dang, that last option seems far-fetched, but if that happened, whoever did it deserves to get lynched.

Even if they were right?

no, not if they were right. but we have no way of knowing.

[Jackofhearts2005]

It’s possible Mega Man’s lynch triggered the skipped phase.

I’m working under this assumption. Princesses are nearly always town and Mega Man is a beloved character and one of only two surefire townies.

[speedchuck]

Jack, do you think I killed Jimmy?

It’s a possibility.

I think it's very unlikely.

In fact, this alone gives me a light townread on Turnip.

[Sloonei]

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

Dang, that last option seems far-fetched, but if that happened, whoever did it deserves to get lynched.

Even if they were right?

no, not if they were right. but we have no way of knowing.

Then what was the point of your first post?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, do you think I killed Jimmy?

It’s a possibility.

I think it's very unlikely.

In fact, this alone gives me a light townread on Turnip.

Is it dumb I’m giving a light townread to Kyle for much the same reason?

Spoiler: show

No. It’s smarter than what you’re doing.

[speedchuck]

Jack, do you think I killed Jimmy?

It’s a possibility.

I think it's very unlikely.

In fact, this alone gives me a light townread on Turnip.

Is it dumb I’m giving a light townread to Kyle for much the same reason?

Spoiler: show

No. It’s smarter than what you’re doing.

Just... just give me a minute.

[Sloonei]

It’s possible Mega Man’s lynch triggered the skipped phase.

I’m working under this assumption. Princesses are nearly always town and Mega Man is a beloved character and one of only two surefire townies.

Same.

[Sloonei]

Why couldn’t Kyle or Turnip Head have killed Jay?

[Lunalee]

Spoiler: show

I know if I try to catch up from the beginning I'm never going to catch up, so I'm just coming in now and will go from here. Does anyone know why Day 2 might have been skipped?

My first guess would be that one of the roles of a dead player (Eloh, Jay, Colin) had a condition which would skip the following day phase upon their death, but I have no direct evidence of that. This is just the most common condition I've seen for skipped phases in my mafia experience.

Skipping a day phase is a mafia/anti-town power, yes?

So... either Mega-Man dying caused a bad guy's condition to trigger (way to rub salt in that wound), or Jay/Colin were townies that died and caused the bad guy to trigger (still sucks), OR one of Colin and Jay were somehow bad and their role let them hit us hard when they were vigged. I had a scum role once that would roleblock every townie in the game the night after I was killed. Something like that.

OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Maybe some arrogant townie said COLIN IS DEFINITELY SCUM and had a one-shot power to trade a day phase for a free kill, sort of like a lynch controller but without the facadarce of votes and wasted day-phase time.

I've been ruminating.

Dang, that last option seems far-fetched, but if that happened, whoever did it deserves to get lynched.

Even if they were right?

no, not if they were right. but we have no way of knowing.

Then what was the point of your first post?

I would rather have a day phase to riddle out a good lynch candidate, than to think that some ninny traded it to lynch who *they* thought might be scum. Granted, this scenario is unlikely. I only bothered to say anything because the idea of it annoyed me.

[speedchuck]

Why couldn’t Kyle or Turnip Head have killed Jay?

IDK why Kyle couldn't, but I'm willing to believe it if Jack explains.

TH was celebrating the fact that JJJ was posting in a fun way this game. TH IS a celebration of low-brow posting. I don't think he would kill JJJ, in this spirit of enjoying the game. And I don't think JJJ was being hard on him this game either, though I'd have to check.
JJJ is a good player, but in the last game TH was in, his team only targeted good players once they became a problem. I think.

So for meta reasons regarding who TH is, and based on the last game he played in, I find it somewhat unlikely he would kill JJJ.

THAT SAID, what if the rest of the team wanted to kill JJJ? Would TH stop them?

[Lunalee]

Analysis post commencing...

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why couldn’t Kyle or Turnip Head have killed Jay?

The first thing I think of when I think of Jay this game is him yelling KYLE like 8 times without Kyle really noticing.

It’s not like he was pressuring Kyle but Jay’s death should draw focus to Kyle.

But Kyle’s teammate may have made the pick and I don’t get Cindykate kill choices anyhow.

[Lunalee]

Analysis post part 1:
Bullzeye gives his reason for voting Quin. He dislikes Quin's questions, and even after Quin provides a valid response, Bullzeye responds with basically "I'm going to say your response looks fake because I'm so set on voting for you." Not the best look.
DFaraday was definitely around on Sunday, but still hasn't bothered to engage with the thread until today. Could be legit busy, or mafia taking a back-seat role to avoid suspicion.
Dom has done very little other than vote for Eloh. Not a good look.
Dr. Wilgy checked in on day 0, but then forgot the game started until today. Nothing really to go on unless it's a brilliant mafia strategy of "just step away and pretend the game doesn't exist"
Soneji checked in on day 0 and hasn't been back. So I've got nothing.
Alien was actually quite active on day 1, but hasn't been back since. On day 1, Alien left his vote on Mac, even though he previously read "Jack is town, sloon is mafia, mac is slightly suspicious but not as much as sloon, same with eloh" I don't like his back-tracking here.
Marmot called me out for calling him an inactive. He actually has been fairly active, but he still hasn't said all that much.. Maybe it's just his playstyle, but I wouldn't be surprised if Marmot turned out to be scum.

Not done, but posting this for now. I'll finish up later this evening.

[Long Con]

I would kill JJJ as a baddie. But it wasn't me.

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Quin]

Jack, why did you vote coliniscool?

He appeared to be my most lynchable suspect at the time but I didn’t realize people were about to move/had just moved to Eloh. The perils of doing the dishes during EOD.

Too convenient.

Come again?

Convenient because it let you avoid contributing to the lynch in any way when you were originally a decisive vote.

I also don't believe you thought Colin had the best chance of being lynched. You moved your vote to someone with one vote with two minutes left in the day without making a single post about it. Even a 'hey, i did this' spew would've been better than your silence.

How does one do dishes and play mafia at the same time? Water plus electronics does not a good couple make.

[Quin]

oh boy i wish someone out there was kind enough to create iso links oh boy oh boy

[Quin]

I didn't kill Jay. I need him in my corner tomorrow since he'd just flipped his read on me.

That's if Jay was the mafia kill, anyway.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, why did you vote coliniscool?

He appeared to be my most lynchable suspect at the time but I didn’t realize people were about to move/had just moved to Eloh. The perils of doing the dishes during EOD.

Too convenient.

Come again?

Convenient because it let you avoid contributing to the lynch in any way when you were originally a decisive vote.

I also don't believe you thought Colin had the best chance of being lynched. You moved your vote to someone with one vote with two minutes left in the day without making a single post about it. Even a 'hey, i did this' spew would've been better than your silence.

How does one do dishes and play mafia at the same time? Water plus electronics does not a good couple make.

Not nearly as quickly as my wife would like.

Okay. Sorry you don’t believe me. Between you and Eloh, it was pretty clear I suspected Eloh far more fwiw. Removing my vote from Eloh doesn’t do much for me if I was bad.