sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:52 am
Sloonei keeps insisting I look at him through “the good guy lens.”
Which....I’m not seeing. I already said what it would be if you were town
here and I don’t find that to be the case. I’m not gonna let this instance try to be swept under the rug like it isn’t important. I won’t let you play the pity card Sloonei. Sorry.
This is another post where I wonder whether sprit is being authentic. Perhaps it is just a difference in playstyle, but to arrive at a point on the second day phase (which is called Day 3 in this game) to "not see" room for a player to be town, in the absence of any definitive connections or out-of-thread information seems, to me, counter-intuitive. My concern is that sprit is over-emphasizing the strength of his Sloonei suspicion. This is how sprit framed his hypothetical of me being town:
Here's the unlikely scenario:
Sloonei is town, he gets pursued by mac who is not someone to back down off his intuition. Sloonei isnt lynch, much to mac's dismay. then during the night, mac still paints him as someone bad, essentially a guarantee he's gonna try to lynch sloonei on day2. He even goes as far as to taunt sloonei to kill him. Mafia kills mac and waits for someone to attack sloonei.
Right off the bat he characterizes it as "unlikely". He is discrediting it before it's even introduced. He then describes a series of events which, by my reckoning, are entirely likely. "Sloonei" is a passive agent in this scenario. His only role is to be the subject of Macdougall's suspicion. I feel like this is a dismissal of the figure of Sloonei entirely and don't know why this is the reduction he provides, but it does not actually seem to address the involvement of the player against whom he is making an accusation.
He then poses this rhetorical question:
so would mafia kill mac to blame sloonei? or would sloonei kill mac to take the pressure and focus off himself?
This reduces the scope a bit too much, to two binary points of direct opposition. There are a myriad of possible scenarios that do not align completely with either of these. Certainly these could both be possible influences which went into the decision to kill Mac, but neither is a complete picture. I would not offer a complete speculation into why Macdougall was killed, but my very general theory is that it's because he's a player the mafia team wanted to have removed and who was unlikely to become the target of a lynch himself. I think it would then be likely that the mafia team would then take the opportunity to pursue suspects who had been named by the nightkilled player, Macdougall. sprityo, however, does not directly acknowledge this possibility and instead places it under the umbrella of "an unlikely scenario". But I do not see why this scenario would be deemed unlikely.
[mention]sprityo[/mention] Forgetting the names of players involved in this particular instance, do you think it's unlikely that the mafia team would nightkill a player and then seek to lynch targets who are made more accessible via the death of the nightkilled player?
Like I said, big dumb idiot.