Mega Man Mafia [ENDGAME]

[DharmaHelper]

Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.

If DH has any teammates in BTSC, they aren't helping him to catch up. The case against marmot, the use of their power to skip a day, etc. DH has been relying on us. Three possibilities.
1. He has no teammates.
2. He has no ACTIVE teammates.
3. They're being smart about trying to get us to believe 1 or 2. Which... meh.

I have no teammates.

[speedchuck]

Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.

If DH has any teammates in BTSC, they aren't helping him to catch up. The case against marmot, the use of their power to skip a day, etc. DH has been relying on us. Three possibilities.
1. He has no teammates.
2. He has no ACTIVE teammates.
3. They're being smart about trying to get us to believe 1 or 2. Which... meh.

I have no teammates.

Holy **** it's PROTO MAN

[speedchuck]

*looks at Proto man's role*

Okay actually that wouldn't help

[Bullzeye]

Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.

If DH has any teammates in BTSC, they aren't helping him to catch up. The case against marmot, the use of their power to skip a day, etc. DH has been relying on us. Three possibilities.
1. He has no teammates.
2. He has no ACTIVE teammates.
3. They're being smart about trying to get us to believe 1 or 2. Which... meh.

The thing is, if DH was bad and the other baddies were all active players, he'd be stupid to come into the thread and say "hey what's up guys I don't need to catch up at all my team have filled me in".

[speedchuck]

It would actually make a lot of sense if either Dizzy or DH is an indie because they would be a replacement priority above the scum even

linki: he could have assimilated into the thread sooner. Gotten some adequate knowledge from scum, acted like he reviewed it himself.

[K-Ness]

I'm still Town. *sigh*

Also, anyone even considering Gemini Man is Town needs to be looked at deeply. There is no way that Gemini Man is one of Light's.

[DharmaHelper]

It would actually make a lot of sense if either Dizzy or DH is an indie because they would be a replacement priority above the scum even

linki: he could have assimilated into the thread sooner. Gotten some adequate knowledge from scum, acted like he reviewed it himself.

[Long Con]

One could view DH's "quest for reasons" to vote Marmot as a steady discrediting of reasons to vote Marmot until enough reasons were put forth that he had to concede. That doesn't look very good.

One could do that. One would be a dingus and wrong but one could do that.

I assume that's your Town response. How would you have responded to me if you were scum?

[K-Ness]

I have a theory about Gemini Man, that they might actually be town. I have to wait until tomorrow to see though

Your theory is wrong. I can assure you.

[K-Ness]

Dharma, why would you suspect Marmot was town? What led you to think that he was after the previous phase?

*also noticed the subtitle is that this is still Day 5, which threw me for a moment*

[DharmaHelper]

One could view DH's "quest for reasons" to vote Marmot as a steady discrediting of reasons to vote Marmot until enough reasons were put forth that he had to concede. That doesn't look very good.

One could do that. One would be a dingus and wrong but one could do that.

I assume that's your Town response. How would you have responded to me if you were scum?

People think too much about "town meta" and "Scum meta" or w/e. I responded how I responded cuz thats how I would've responded.

[DharmaHelper]

Dharma, why would you suspect Marmot was town? What led you to think that he was after the previous phase?

*also noticed the subtitle is that this is still Day 5, which threw me for a moment*

Did I say Marmot was town?

[K-Ness]

Dharma, why would you suspect Marmot was town? What led you to think that he was after the previous phase?

*also noticed the subtitle is that this is still Day 5, which threw me for a moment*

Did I say Marmot was town?

No, but you had to have had some doubt in your mind that he was mafia, right?

[DharmaHelper]

Dharma, why would you suspect Marmot was town? What led you to think that he was after the previous phase?

*also noticed the subtitle is that this is still Day 5, which threw me for a moment*

Did I say Marmot was town?

No, but you had to have had some doubt in your mind that he was mafia, right?

Why must I have?

[K-Ness]

Dharma, why would you suspect Marmot was town? What led you to think that he was after the previous phase?

*also noticed the subtitle is that this is still Day 5, which threw me for a moment*

Did I say Marmot was town?

No, but you had to have had some doubt in your mind that he was mafia, right?

Why must I have?

The way you discussed the voting. Just an impression I got.

[DharmaHelper]

Dharma, why would you suspect Marmot was town? What led you to think that he was after the previous phase?

*also noticed the subtitle is that this is still Day 5, which threw me for a moment*

Did I say Marmot was town?

No, but you had to have had some doubt in your mind that he was mafia, right?

Why must I have?

The way you discussed the voting. Just an impression I got.

In which way did my discussion of the voting give you the impression that I had had some doubt in my mind that he was mafia?

[speedchuck]

What even is this conversation?

[K-Ness]

What even is this conversation?

Trying to figure out why he was discussing the reasoning for lynching Marmot, but whatever.

[DharmaHelper]

What even is this conversation?

Trying to figure out why he was discussing the reasoning for lynching Marmot, but whatever.

Cuz I like to have reasons for voting for people.

[sprityo]

I thought Alien looked town, and I think DH looks town for questioning the marmot lynch. DH didnt read any of the game. so all he was going off of was what he immediately could read. as well as anything people requested him to read

like what else is the guy gonna do. DH isnt exactly the kind of person to "go read the entire game to catch up" let alone even expect him to read anything early in general

[speedchuck]

I thought Alien looked town, and I think DH looks town for questioning the marmot lynch. DH didnt read any of the game. so all he was going off of was what he immediately could read. as well as anything people requested him to read

like what else is the guy gonna do. DH isnt exactly the kind of person to "go read the entire game to catch up" let alone even expect him to read anything early in general

Where are you looking next? Give me two suspects.

[sprityo]

the new day is almost upon us let's remember to stay active and positive everyone

Hope will prevail

linki: according to my colored out rainbow list. I want to examine speedchuck and K-Ness tomorrow. After them, Nova because i feel like theyre lurking and not actually posting anything. Would love to have Dom in here because of the 4 inactives, he voted day 1

[Turnip Head]

Emphases mine:

Wow 40 whole ass pages for me to not read.

Anybody want to give me the 4-1-1 this fine evening?

So first impressions:

I just re-read the GOC where I posted that Zoolander Crazy Pills video like 15 times and I called 2 mafia out without blinking, then I re-read Firefly a bit wherein I called Golden bad D1 and nuked the fuck out of a majority of the mafia and I'm coming off a pretty cool and good win with DFS Mafia wherein I kinda just showed up and won so I'm feeling pretty good about my chances here.


Also pretty fucked up for you guys to lynch both Eloh and Simon in a game hosted by Epi what are you guys trying to do to my guy?

DharmaHelper must answer for his poor time management skills.

I also think it's interesting how he originally framed the Marmot discussion in this post:

Spoiler: show

Marmot posted while allegedly silenced? Can someone tell me about that?

Quin was silenced/imprisoned one day. We know because he told us and was noticeably absent. (as compared to other inactives.)

We thought Marmot had the same problem the next day, because he said he'd post and he didn't... until like 2 hours before dayend. This is how I remember it, though I was in fever haze at the time.

So what you're saying is a guy notorious for giving perhaps even a negative amount of fucks didn't follow through on a statement of his until he felt like it and people have jumped down his throat claiming he must be lynched for it.

that's not the reason people suspect him, if not the WHOLE reason

It reads to me from the last 1-5 pages or so that I've read, the idea is that Marmot was "supposed" to be lynched over Simon but this Gemini guy stepped in and put the ol' kybash on that, and now everyone's like "Oi wut? Marmot got saved by Gemini, and also Marmot was 'silenced', so like lets kill Marmot?"


Here are 3 possibilities as I see 'em.

1. Marmot is Gemini and saved himself. Either bad Gemini and saved himself maliciously or Good Gemini and saved himself without knowing Simon was also a civ
2. Gemini is a civ and for some reason saved Marmot over Simon. Either Gemini suspected Simon more or figured for some reason Marmot was being stitched up
3. Gemini is bad, and since from what I gather the mafia are putting the screws to active players, figured "Hey you know what would be funny? Using my fun extra vote to frame Marmot who won't fight back and lynch Simon now, and lets let the town hang the Marmot"

Have I got that about sorted?

I don't like his list of 3 possibilities, looks like he was trying to quietly push the narrative in a way that spins positive for Marmot tbh, reason I think that is cuz 2 and a half of the possibilities paint Marmot as town. also in hindsight it looks like maybe he knew Marmot and Gemini weren't the same player.

[sprityo]

I can't believe me, a player with such a worthless talent, get's to be here with all of you amazing ultimates robots!

[Turnip Head]

fuck off sprit

[sprityo]

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] You did also like laid out the case at least twice for him in detail

[sprityo]

fuck off sprit

[Turnip Head]

Yeah eventually DH went "Okay, that's the smartest reason I've heard" and backed off, which is fine imo cuz he indeed picked out the smartest part of the case to agree with.

[DharmaHelper]

Emphases mine:

Wow 40 whole ass pages for me to not read.

Anybody want to give me the 4-1-1 this fine evening?

So first impressions:

I just re-read the GOC where I posted that Zoolander Crazy Pills video like 15 times and I called 2 mafia out without blinking, then I re-read Firefly a bit wherein I called Golden bad D1 and nuked the fuck out of a majority of the mafia and I'm coming off a pretty cool and good win with DFS Mafia wherein I kinda just showed up and won so I'm feeling pretty good about my chances here.


Also pretty fucked up for you guys to lynch both Eloh and Simon in a game hosted by Epi what are you guys trying to do to my guy?

DharmaHelper must answer for his poor time management skills.

I also think it's interesting how he originally framed the Marmot discussion in this post:

Spoiler: show

Marmot posted while allegedly silenced? Can someone tell me about that?

Quin was silenced/imprisoned one day. We know because he told us and was noticeably absent. (as compared to other inactives.)

We thought Marmot had the same problem the next day, because he said he'd post and he didn't... until like 2 hours before dayend. This is how I remember it, though I was in fever haze at the time.

So what you're saying is a guy notorious for giving perhaps even a negative amount of fucks didn't follow through on a statement of his until he felt like it and people have jumped down his throat claiming he must be lynched for it.

that's not the reason people suspect him, if not the WHOLE reason

It reads to me from the last 1-5 pages or so that I've read, the idea is that Marmot was "supposed" to be lynched over Simon but this Gemini guy stepped in and put the ol' kybash on that, and now everyone's like "Oi wut? Marmot got saved by Gemini, and also Marmot was 'silenced', so like lets kill Marmot?"


Here are 3 possibilities as I see 'em.

1. Marmot is Gemini and saved himself. Either bad Gemini and saved himself maliciously or Good Gemini and saved himself without knowing Simon was also a civ
2. Gemini is a civ and for some reason saved Marmot over Simon. Either Gemini suspected Simon more or figured for some reason Marmot was being stitched up
3. Gemini is bad, and since from what I gather the mafia are putting the screws to active players, figured "Hey you know what would be funny? Using my fun extra vote to frame Marmot who won't fight back and lynch Simon now, and lets let the town hang the Marmot"

Have I got that about sorted?

I don't like his list of 3 possibilities, looks like he was trying to quietly push the narrative in a way that spins positive for Marmot tbh, reason I think that is cuz 2 and a half of the possibilities paint Marmot as town. also in hindsight it looks like maybe he knew Marmot and Gemini weren't the same player.

I got time to re-read my own ISO from GOC, and time to check out the recently concluded Firefly because neither requires me to give a half a shit or apply any brainpower to their consumption. Not so with 40 pages of stuff I'd subbed into.

As to your umbrage with my 3 possibilities things, I don't care.

[Turnip Head]

I expected you to say something like "I was just kidding about rereading those old games you nerd" but wow you actually reread your own ISOs. I'm... impressed.

[DharmaHelper]

I expected you to say something like "I was just kidding about rereading those old games you nerd" but wow you actually reread your own ISOs. I'm... impressed.

Yeah well I'm impressive.

[Turnip Head]

I expected you to say something like "I was just kidding about rereading those old games you nerd" but wow you actually reread your own ISOs. I'm... impressed.

Yeah well I'm impressive.

I clearly could not think of the right word, I'll let you know when I do

[DharmaHelper]

@Turnip Head You did also like laid out the case at least twice for him in detail

Quite untrue.

[Turnip Head]

What kind of heretic goes back and reads their own ISOs instead of reading even a little bit of the new game?

[sprityo]

What kind of heretic goes back and reads their own ISOs instead of reading even a little bit of the new game?

[Turnip Head]

I gave DH the Marmot case in scraps, like he was a starving alley cat

[DharmaHelper]

What kind of heretic goes back and reads their own ISOs instead of reading even a little bit of the new game?

I got the gist.

[Turnip Head]

I mean you can't really justify it. I don't think a townie goes back to reread their old games instead of reading the one they just joined lol

[speedchuck]

I mean you can't really justify it. I don't think a townie goes back to reread their old games instead of reading the one they just joined lol

[DharmaHelper]

I mean you can't really justify it. I don't think a townie goes back to reread their old games instead of reading the one they just joined lol

Well la-dee-fuckin da.

I just did justify it. Miracle of miracles.

[Turnip Head]

[DharmaHelper]

I dunno what you want. "A townie wouldn't..." blah blah blah. I did tho so its like...what do you want.

[Turnip Head]

Is this the part where I'm supposed to ask why you did so?

[speedchuck]

People have forgotten how to dialogue on this page

[Jackofhearts2005]

Even if DH is bad, what makes you think he has teammates that are active?

[speedchuck]

Even if DH is bad, what makes you think he has teammates that are active?

That's what I said.

[Jackofhearts2005]

oof. I missed what page I was on.

You know what I want?

People to weigh in on Speed/DH/LC.

[DharmaHelper]

'swhat I get I guess for being active.

[Turnip Head]

I don't want to keep you on the defensive DH, I just wanted to state my perspective

[DharmaHelper]

I don't want to keep you on the defensive DH, I just wanted to state my perspective

I'm notoriously difficult to get on the defensive. I'll be alright.