Hogwarts Mafia - END

[Kylemii]

give me the down-low on the modern events please

[JaggedJimmyJay]

give me the down-low on the modern events please

everyone knows you're mafia, but we're saving your lynch for a later phase and drawing out interactions.

[nutella]

give me the down-low on the modern events please

everyone knows you're mafia, but we're saving your lynch for a later phase and drawing out interactions.

[Soneji]

Lunalee remains my top suspect, they haven't done anything today to change my view on them.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] : Your main problem with me just seems to be my vote on TH which was a tiebreaker vote between two options I wasn't sold on but with so little time left it's better to make a choice there then be off by myself on a Lunalee vote. The main thing that tipped me over to TH was that Luna was voting Owner.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

I’ve spoken to my motivation regarding keeping Nova alive last phase although it escapes me whether or not I did so in detail. Basically I know there are some good players on the replacements list so I wanted to see if scum would treat the slot as they did in Fire Emblem, where rabbit was killed N1 so that speed wouldn’t replace in as a towny. We’d just discussed this in Outpost a few days ago so it was fresh on my mind. If the night passed with nova alive it would have roused my suspicions considerably. Although the vig choice is perplexing and should probably be examined. I’m sure this sounds made up but I don’t care.

What should be examined about a vig's choice of kill unless you want to expose the vig's identity?

I just re-read speedchuck and found that:

1. In the end he did not believe OoaLH was bad so I don't think he was killed by a baddie team with OoaLH on it.
2. He said some negative things about Glorf which doesn't look great for Glorf but it's not enough for me to suspect him.

Has anyone else re-read speed? See anything that I didn't?

Kills are decided upon by more than just one person and that he didn't jump onto Owner there doesn't mean an Owner team wouldn't have killed him for a myriad of other reasons. A one vote swing away from Owner doesn't give someone immunity from a scum team with Owner on it.

[Kylemii]

give me the down-low on the modern events please

everyone knows you're mafia, but we're saving your lynch for a later phase and drawing out interactions.

I'm not mafia, do people really think that

[JaggedJimmyJay]

give me the down-low on the modern events please

everyone knows you're mafia, but we're saving your lynch for a later phase and drawing out interactions.

I'm not mafia, do people really think that

already confirmed dude

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay : Your main problem with me just seems to be my vote on TH which was a tiebreaker vote between two options I wasn't sold on but with so little time left it's better to make a choice there then be off by myself on a Lunalee vote. The main thing that tipped me over to TH was that Luna was voting Owner.

An entire new day phase has nearly passed. What new insights do you have?

[Kylemii]

give me the down-low on the modern events please

everyone knows you're mafia, but we're saving your lynch for a later phase and drawing out interactions.

I'm not mafia, do people really think that

already confirmed dude

so you're basically just messing with me then, cool

what about the guys that are up by votes on the poll, I have to go to work in like an hour, and haven't read anything, what's the deal with those guys?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

so you're basically just messing with me then, cool

what about the guys that are up by votes on the poll, I have to go to work in like an hour, and haven't read anything, what's the deal with those guys?

KYLE. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS YOURSELF.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gun to head reads.

[Kylemii]

it's like 14 pages, my dude

[Kylemii]

can you read 14 pages in 1 hour? I bet you probably cant

[JaggedJimmyJay]

it's like 14 pages, my dude

Do you have any impressions at all of any players regardless of how much you have read?

[Kylemii]

it's like 14 pages, my dude

Do you have any impressions at all of any players regardless of how much you have read?

yes! but not the ones who have votes, that's why I'm asking.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

yes! but not the ones who have votes, that's why I'm asking.

Give me those impressions of yours, and I will tell you about the ones who have votes.

[Lunalee]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

[timmer]

Kyle, ISO the posts of the people with votes? Shouldn't take too long?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

the ones who have votes

Bullzeye

Don't really have time to catch up before the lynch, but I can see from the Who Posted list that Nova still hasn't checked in so I will vote there today.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

This post got him into trouble, both because his vote was off-wagon at EOD and it ended up being on a confirmed mafioso. timmer protested.

Colin

Epignosis can speak to his own suspicions. I don't have strong feelings here. Here's a thing.

Glorfindel

Some have concerns that his hunting effort has been limited and/or that he has been trying to buddy me. I don't agree.

insertnamehere

I stated beefs. Luna and a few others entertained the beefs as potentially worth pursuing. INH responded

karavalenge

timmer has gripes

Lunalee

Numerous players have expressed suspicion about her covering multiple topics. Check her posts and decide for yourself.

MacDougall

nutella has beefs

Owner

Numerous players have expressed suspicion about her covering multiple topics. Check her posts and decide for yourself. DharmaHelper specifically has raised numerous grievances.

Soneji

I have beefs. He responded.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]timmer[/mention], it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

[DharmaHelper]

OK Lets try and break this up into House Chunks and see if that makes it easier on me.

Gryffindor:

Colin - Starting N1 off with a bang, he goes at nutella and Jay for the TH lynch and Bullz for his nova vote. here are his reads. He backs chuck up with the "Rezz now!" call. Cops to opposing nova's lynch. He had nova as "N/A" which is frustrating, [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] Did you explain what "I went of out of my way to reference him for convoluted scum hunting reasons" means? He jumps on Bullz. He got on Owner's case about over-explaining herself saying he has occasion to do that when bad and then he makes this post over-explaining his nova defense? Hm.

Backs off the bullzeye wagon because it feels "Too easy". I'm yellow/light orange on Colin right now.

INH - Goes at Jay, basically just salitily defending himself. Pinged by Nutella/Luna for their participation in Jay's INH case. Again not a lot of stuff to read from INH, but the stuff thats there is defensive by necessity. Meh.

Jay - Jumps up Owner's ass because Owner said he tried to save her in the D1 lynch. If Owner is bad or if Jay is bad this looks staged. Like, Firstly, why give half a fuck just be like "No, I didn't do that," and move on but Jay spends like 3-4 posts on the fuckin' issue. Staged or entirely overdefensive out of a paranoid necessity. Either scenario looks bad to me. here are his reads. Owner is good? Staged.

And I've officially run out of gas sorting through Jay's posts so I'll shift gears from here and ISO people I'm considering voting instead of everyone.

[DharmaHelper]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

[timmer]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Do you have specific thoughts on Kara that mirror mine? Or you think strongly that I'm civ so will follow my vote? I'm hoping it's the former, as I am civ but it doesn't mean my reads are correct.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Those voting for and otherwise suspicious of kara, please talk to me about this post.

[DharmaHelper]

My Top Suspects off the top of my head and in no particular order

Jay
Luna
Nutella
Owner

[Jackofhearts2005]

timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay - Jumps up Owner's ass because Owner said he tried to save her in the D1 lynch. If Owner is bad or if Jay is bad this looks staged. Like, Firstly, why give half a fuck just be like "No, I didn't do that," and move on but Jay spends like 3-4 posts on the fuckin' issue. Staged or entirely overdefensive out of a paranoid necessity. Either scenario looks bad to me. here are his reads. Owner is good? Staged.

You've spent approximately 90 posts on what I view as pure trash content re: Owner.

We spend time on things as long as we must to resolve them. I read her as "good" because after that engagement I wasn't bothered. That's the whole point. Bake in your tunnel if that's what gets your jollies off.

[nutella]

@timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

What do you mean you know this? What do you know? Immediately after his post I found a likely explanation in the roles that makes sense to me and is not a cop or LD.

[DharmaHelper]

Jay - Jumps up Owner's ass because Owner said he tried to save her in the D1 lynch. If Owner is bad or if Jay is bad this looks staged. Like, Firstly, why give half a fuck just be like "No, I didn't do that," and move on but Jay spends like 3-4 posts on the fuckin' issue. Staged or entirely overdefensive out of a paranoid necessity. Either scenario looks bad to me. here are his reads. Owner is good? Staged.

You've spent approximately 90 posts on what I view as pure trash content re: Owner.

We spend time on things as long as we must to resolve them. I read her as "good" because after that engagement I wasn't bothered. That's the whole point. Bake in your tunnel if that's what gets your jollies off.

Cool.
Cool cool cool.

Not the same thing but cool cool cool cool.

Great post good job.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay - Jumps up Owner's ass because Owner said he tried to save her in the D1 lynch. If Owner is bad or if Jay is bad this looks staged. Like, Firstly, why give half a fuck just be like "No, I didn't do that," and move on but Jay spends like 3-4 posts on the fuckin' issue. Staged or entirely overdefensive out of a paranoid necessity. Either scenario looks bad to me. here are his reads. Owner is good? Staged.

You've spent approximately 90 posts on what I view as pure trash content re: Owner.

We spend time on things as long as we must to resolve them. I read her as "good" because after that engagement I wasn't bothered. That's the whole point. Bake in your tunnel if that's what gets your jollies off.

Cool.
Cool cool cool.

Not the same thing but cool cool cool cool.

Great post good job.

That's right, the difference is that it took me 84 fewer posts to stop caring.

[timmer]

[quote=JaggedJimmyJay post_id=492031 time=1541179052 user_id=402]
@timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

I blocked you.

[Lunalee]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

wow DH, sorry I don't agree with all your opinions and such, but it's no reason to lynch me.

[Kylemii]

yes! but not the ones who have votes, that's why I'm asking.

Give me those impressions of yours, and I will tell you about the ones who have votes.

Nutella and quin I'm tonereaading as good, Jack is probably a civ, I think.

I think you're probably a civ cus you get on my ass more often as a civ than as not, though by telling you this this tell has now expired.

my cold medicine townread on Juliets was maybe hasty, since I think she's tricked me before and I always see her as being my cool and nice friend juliets so I think she's more in the neutral zone.

[nutella]

timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

This checks out with what I thought. Sure it's not direct information but it makes sense on a few levels and is a reasonable inference.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

ebwoperoo

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

I blocked you.

[nutella]

timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

I blocked you.

If he was blocked wouldn't he not get a result at all? Maybe your block was blocked.

[nutella]

Fuck these quote tags

[Kylemii]

reasoning for jack is that in the past he's tended toward roleplaying more often as civ than as mafia. but when civ he's also slipped out of roleplays when it became necessary for communication. I see that here with the *sneezes*

[Kylemii]

at least that's been my experience

[timmer]

Those voting for and otherwise suspicious of kara, please talk to me about this post.

That post comes down a lot on his meta. Does Kara get agitated when he feels people's eyes on him? Is that agitation an alignment tell? I didn't answer this but alone of you maybe can.

[timmer]

timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

I blocked you.

You really didn't need to throw that out there, JJJ, I'm not inferring from anything I did, but from what I think others did.

[Lunalee]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Do you have specific thoughts on Kara that mirror mine? Or you think strongly that I'm civ so will follow my vote? I'm hoping it's the former, as I am civ but it doesn't mean my reads are correct.

My thoughts on Kara have been: we were scum last game together. I don't really know his meta well yet, but I did notice that he seemed to lay low and keep quiet to avoid garnering suspicion. I thought he was doing the same in this game, and just looked back at his posts again. But THIS one bothers me. I'm not sure if scum Kara would say all of that. So now I want to vote elsewhere. ugh

[DharmaHelper]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

wow DH, sorry I don't agree with all your opinions and such, but it's no reason to lynch me.

Snarky passive aggressive defense very town.

[timmer]

What is with these tags?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I blocked you.

You really didn't need to throw that out there, JJJ, I'm not inferring from anything I did, but from what I think others did.

I'm not worried about it.

I'll have to review things and see if I can get a better idea.

[Lunalee]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

wow DH, sorry I don't agree with all your opinions and such, but it's no reason to lynch me.

Snarky passive aggressive defense very town.

You know, last time you tunneled me until I got lynched, you were scum.

[Kylemii]

thank you jay

[DharmaHelper]

Luna - The Epi/Owner case is weak and I disagree with it. The former could be indicative of just trying to toss spaghetti on the wall. Several instances of her prioritizing the House Cup mechanic which I've already gone over as to why I suspect that. She says she thinks Owner might be town due to how she acted at EoD. Was this (Owner's actions) before or after the Epi/Owner case was built? Luna's posts along the lines of "I'll vote X since nobody wants to lynch Y" strike me as she's insincere. Focused not on expressing her suspicions through her vote, but on voting with the majority/not ruffling any feathers. Eek fam. Baderino. Jumps on Nutella for defending INH, whom she says is suspect for his "fluff". Cool, but also an easy suspect to have especially if you're not gonna back it up with a vote. Luna's been consistently suspicious of Kara for not being around/laying low which is fine, but I think there's been enough actual discussion and participation that if you wanted to you could come away with a suspect that is participating. Unless you think Nova and Kara were both on the same team, and that team is essentially down two players due to inactivity/low activity.

Meh.

[DharmaHelper]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

wow DH, sorry I don't agree with all your opinions and such, but it's no reason to lynch me.

Snarky passive aggressive defense very town.

You know, last time you tunneled me until I got lynched, you were scum.

What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

wow DH, sorry I don't agree with all your opinions and such, but it's no reason to lynch me.

Snarky passive aggressive defense very town.

You know, last time you tunneled me until I got lynched, you were scum.

Do you read DH as scum then?