Hogwarts Mafia - END

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm in another class now and probably can't hang around here either. I endorse a sprityo lynch. I'm not moving.

[Jackofhearts2005]

9 lone votes is yuck.

[VOTE: Glor] aubergine

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I've been POEing out my day. Here's what I have:

Do not lynch:
Timmer
karavalenge
Lunalee
poutanko
Sloonei
nutella
ColinIsCool
Long Con

Whatever mate:
DharmaHelper
JaggedJimmyJay
Epignosis
Glorfindel
MacDougall
Quin
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo

Didn't have enough time to iron everyone out, since I was out of town all yesterday. It's a good start, though.

I'll be in and out. JJJ is an interesting lynch option, and I want to see what comes of it. Sprityo's lynch wouldn't be the worst thing ever. Jury's out on Jack and Glorf, I've still for to work on those two.

I townread Mac except for the whole anti-town-vig-scum-hogwash. Need to figure out what to do with that.

linki: Oh okay I might join you hmmm

[speedchuck]

Yeah sure [VOTE: Glorf] aubergine

The only reason not to do it is because I suspect Jack some, and there's no way this is a bus.

[timmer]

9 lone votes is yuck.

[VOTE: Glor] aubergine

I'll be moving mine, but I'm weighing where. I need Kowalski on this.

[Lunalee]

Yeah sure [VOTE: Glorf] aubergine

The only reason not to do it is because I suspect Jack some, and there's no way this is a bus.

You did that just to make a three-way tie, didn't you?

[Jackofhearts2005]

#letitrand

Spoiler: show

Just kidding. Vote Glor. Or make better cases.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine
[VOTE: Glor] aubergine

[speedchuck]

Yeah sure [VOTE: Glorf] aubergine

The only reason not to do it is because I suspect Jack some, and there's no way this is a bus.

You did that just to make a three-way tie, didn't you?

No. I actually prefer if there was not a three way tie.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

Vote elsewhere.

[nutella]

Mmm I don't even know who I'd pick out of Colin, glorf, and LC. Lynch em all I say.

[nutella]

I am only on page 44, so I'm still behind. Most of the pages are blocked here and I will be in a meeting when the poll closes, I think. I recall being impressed with Russtifinko's Hitler thing, and so I'm putting my vote on timmer. I don't hate the Colin lynch, but I see he already has five votes.

Hey don't do that, I know you have no time to read but timmer came out with some info so we are not voting for him. Move if you see this.

[speedchuck]

Mmm I don't even know who I'd pick out of Colin, glorf, and LC. Lynch em all I say.

This one.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mmm I don't even know who I'd pick out of Colin, glorf, and LC. Lynch em all I say.

So vote one of em.

[Glorfindel]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I've been POEing out my day. Here's what I have:

Do not lynch:
Timmer
karavalenge
Lunalee
poutanko
Sloonei
nutella
ColinIsCool
Long Con

Whatever mate:
DharmaHelper
JaggedJimmyJay
Epignosis
Glorfindel
MacDougall
Quin
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo

Didn't have enough time to iron everyone out, since I was out of town all yesterday. It's a good start, though.

I'll be in and out. JJJ is an interesting lynch option, and I want to see what comes of it. Sprityo's lynch wouldn't be the worst thing ever. Jury's out on Jack and Glorf, I've still for to work on those two.

I townread Mac except for the whole anti-town-vig-scum-hogwash. Need to figure out what to do with that.

linki: Oh okay I might join you hmmm

And yet, you’re voting me? I’m the best you can do?

[nutella]

[VOTE: glorf] aubergine

[Glorfindel]

@Sloonei

Vote elsewhere.

No, I will

[Glorfindel]

I’m happy to give Epi some time to catch up properly

[speedchuck]

Ooh, that's a hard NO U from left field! Let's see how that turns out.

[speedchuck]

Who just buffed the LC wagon?

[Lunalee]

@Sloonei

Vote elsewhere.

No, I will

Glorf, if you're intent on saving yourself why wouldn't you vote Colin or Long Con instead of Jack?

[speedchuck]

I t w a s t i m m e r

[timmer]

Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.

[Glorfindel]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

[nutella]

Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.

So is LC being bad contingent on Colin being bad or are you just calling it scummy behavior regardless?

[nutella]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

[speedchuck]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

[Jackofhearts2005]

This formation always lynches scum.

[timmer]

Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.

So is LC being bad contingent on Colin being bad or are you just calling it scummy behavior regardless?

Its plain scummy. I'll pull the quote, hold on.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I also quit mafia forever if you lynch me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

We know Glorf means it. If he's mafia, he would clearly return for the sake of his team.

What are you going to do about it?

[Glorfindel]

I’ve changed my mind about Colin. I think he is likely Town. His posts towards the end of today simply reek of genuineness

[timmer]

Today, day 3, lc said this:

"I have found Colin's play pretty strong so far, and I have no intention of voting him because I can create a theory about his strange request that shows him as bad. Like I said, that wasn't the purpose of my post - to vilify Colin. I want him to respond to it before I decide anything.

I don't really have any suspicion of Colin apart from it."

I mean that's a big endorsement. But then when it seems like Colin will be up for a potential lynch LC votes him.

And LC has posted since then about other things, but hasn't hashed this out. This puts him above the others, for me.

[nutella]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

We know Glorf means it. If he's mafia, he would clearly return for the sake of his team.

What are you going to do about it?

I didn't know what he meant. How did you?

[speedchuck]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

We know Glorf means it. If he's mafia, he would clearly return for the sake of his team.

What are you going to do about it?

I have no idea what that post even means.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...

We know Glorf means it. If he's mafia, he would clearly return for the sake of his team.

What are you going to do about it?

I didn't know what he meant. How did you?

By reading his post. I don't give a shit what you say about me. Your vote is still on Glorf. Bad.

[nutella]

Speed braintwinning me all over the place. Cfd Jay w me?

[Lunalee]

(okay, that was a fun exercise, and in doing it I guess there wasn't quite as much suspicious content as it felt like there was. I think my point about LC is the one most worth considering.)

Ok, you do it. Discuss reasons why Colin might do that.

Well he could be town wanting to get confirmed, but as Quin pointed out, why? He's barely even been suspected at all until now -- and what's more, he had just pointed out his fear that rezzes were either gone or in the wrong hands. If he's town he can't count on a rez, by his own admission. He can only rely on a rez if he's bad and knows his team has one. Whether he has some way to appear civ upon flip, or whether his team will rez him as a confirmed baddie, I can't say, but there doesn't really seem to be a town explanation.

Ok, thank you. That seems remarkably similar to my own post that is your top suspected post on the Page of Sin.

No, don't think so. You didn't point out the thing I did that if he's town he can't count on a rez. Your post painted much more of a bleak picture of a baddie fooling us all with a fake flip, and so I came out of your post interpreting more of an overall thesis of "don't lynch Colin he's tricking us" whereas I am saying we should just lynch him because he's bad and if he has a fake flip we'll just have to deal.

The "baddies have the rez" thing wasn't on my mind, that's true. Since we're analyzing Colin's intentions here, I'd say it wasn't on Civ!his (did I do that right?) mind either. So it's debatable whether that's useful.

Both our posts discussed Civ reasons for his play, and found them coming up short, and then we both looked at benefits of doing it as a baddie, with a nod to a possible Seemer aspect in his lynch. How does my post "paint a bleak picture of a baddie fooling us with a fake slip" when yours says "Whether he has some way to appear civ upon flip..." yet presumably avoids those connotations?

Anyway, be that as it may, I can't help you reading my post that way, but I don't recall having a huge "don't lynch Colin" push in that post. My post was geared more to discussing a couple of things and leaving it for Colin to take up before going further.

big post with long con in it

I didn't get that subtle defence or whatever from LC at all. Dunno how you interpreted it that way.

So anyway why isn't your vote on Colin? same goes for @Long Con

I have found Colin's play pretty strong so far, and I have no intention of voting him because I can create a theory about his strange request that shows him as bad. Like I said, that wasn't the purpose of my post - to vilify Colin. I want him to respond to it before I decide anything.

I don't really have any suspicion of Colin apart from it.

Interesting, Timmer. Pulling this to the front for reference

[JaggedJimmyJay]

There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.

[Lunalee]

Speed braintwinning me all over the place. Cfd Jay w me?

but all of his INH analysis posts made him look so town...

[karavalenge]

@karavalenge, why Long Con

Cause it was 4-3 Colin to Long at the time and I felt better about lynching Long than Colin. I've switched now.

[Long Con]

Today, day 3, lc said this:

"I have found Colin's play pretty strong so far, and I have no intention of voting him because I can create a theory about his strange request that shows him as bad. Like I said, that wasn't the purpose of my post - to vilify Colin. I want him to respond to it before I decide anything.

I don't really have any suspicion of Colin apart from it."

I mean that's a big endorsement. But then when it seems like Colin will be up for a potential lynch LC votes him.

And LC has posted since then about other things, but hasn't hashed this out. This puts him above the others, for me.

I said why I changed my mind about Colin. He asked for the lynch, but then got upset when he started getting votes. What does that tell you?

[nutella]

There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.

Mafia glorf would absolutely refuse resurrection. You're high.

[timmer]

That longer post has me a bit more confused now. What was lc saying, ultimately?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.

Mafia glorf would absolutely refuse resurrection. You're high.

Why the hell would he do that? It's nonsense. You're hamfisting this to justify a crap vote.

[speedchuck]

There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.

There being no reason for a post does NOT make it 'false'. Are you telling me that Glorf can't even make a TRUTHFUL post that would mislead? Because I have no experience with that.

[speedchuck]

JJJ and Glorf are not scum together BTW. Already confirmed that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Long Con]

That longer post has me a bit more confused now. What was lc saying, ultimately?

The one about you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.

There being no reason for a post does NOT make it 'false'. Are you telling me that Glorf can't even make a TRUTHFUL post that would mislead? Because I have no experience with that.

Why would a mafia Glorfindel truly refuse resurrection