Hogwarts Mafia - END

[Sloonei]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

[juliets]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Sloonei, what are you referring to when you say "but after everything happened yesterday"? I'm not sure what you are referring to.

[DharmaHelper]

....it's not read
N1 - Bullz
N2 - Colin

Lol wild.

[DharmaHelper]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

[Sloonei]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Sloonei, what are you referring to when you say "but after everything happened yesterday"? I'm not sure what you are referring to.

... Quin and Speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

[nutella]

Oh I completely forgot about timmer. Yeah he could be bad, damn it.


And poutanko's speed check was allegedly night 1 (but she didn't claim it til day 4)

[DharmaHelper]

Lol guys remember when I asked Owner if "Picture Tell" translated to poutanko posting all those off site smilies and she said no. Lol wow that's so wild.

I mean if they were teammates that would be pretty wild lol.

[Sloonei]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

[DharmaHelper]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

[juliets]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Sloonei, what are you referring to when you say "but after everything happened yesterday"? I'm not sure what you are referring to.

... Quin and Speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Oh ok, that seems like it was going on forever but I guess it was just yesterday.

[nutella]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

lmao yeah sloonei if you're so anti-ketchup you can't just assume people know things that happened in the thread

[Sloonei]

Oh I completely forgot about timmer. Yeah he could be bad, damn it.


And poutanko's speed check was allegedly night 1 (but she didn't claim it til day 4)

I don’t think timmer is bad. I’d lean in one of the other directions I suggested.

I’d give more consideration to poutanko as a death eater though.

[nutella]

yeah I'mma iso poutanko

[Sloonei]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

Quin claimed to patronus me and timmer.
Speedchuck claims to have watched Quin target LC.
Both of them stuck to their guns and rejected any alternatives other than that the other was lying.
Speedchuck is dead and town.

[DharmaHelper]

Hey you know what's crazy tho is that poutanko sat on a "speedchuck is bad" claim for what, 3 days. lol wow

[juliets]

Oh I completely forgot about timmer. Yeah he could be bad, damn it.


And poutanko's speed check was allegedly night 1 (but she didn't claim it til day 4)

I can think of two answers to the poutanko question you raise but I'd rather hear it from her. @poutanko why did you wait for day 4?

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

[Golden]

The previous subject was a lot scarier. It was Consumer Law. I just did the exam for it and I feel like I was right about everything while also being wrong about everything.

good luck. Everything about commercial law is grey.

[DharmaHelper]

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

QUINSANITY

[nutella]

ehh pou could go either way. her iso is only 2 pages, I invite others to look for themselves and decide

[Golden]

Also, there’s something ironic about the fact I’m a topic of conversation in Hogwarts mafia

[Sloonei]

Quin and sprityo

Quin's stuff

Spoiler: show

Quin, would you be able to throw together a six-player POE list?

speed's alignment would change things a fair bit. So have two.

If speed is bad:
colin
nutella
jack
DH
sprityo
DH

If speed is good:
colin
jack
DH
sprityo
kara
pout

Nothing whatsoever until a D4 POE list. And that's it.

sprityo's stuff

Spoiler: show

DH and Mac town v Town. Because their entire arguement wasted time and accomplished close to nothing.

sprityo what do you think about the speed vs. Quin debate?

That’s a debate? I didn’t recognize that was a thing

sprityo implied he was unaware of the Quin vs. speedchuck mechanical debate. Seems kind of hard to miss if one opens the thread at all during D4, but I'm not sure I disbelieve it.

~~~

Conclusion

Zilch to discuss. They're compatible by default.

YELLOW

Quin and Sprit are the players I have the most independent suspicion of right now. This relationship turns up next to nothing. Sprit’s supposed ignorance of speed/quin is not a good look. That it’s the only real point in this entire interaction is also not a good look. I have trouble calling it a definitively bad read though.

[juliets]

Speedchuck has vig kill written all over him. This does not bode well for Quin. It’s still possible he’s town but after the way everything happened yesterday it’s gonna take a lot to feel that way for sure.

On the subject of vig kills, timmer is still alive, which could mean a few things: he’s a Death Eater, or the Death Eaters haven’t felt the need to kill him yet, or they’re just wary of protections/misdirects. In any event, it seems that others are being prioritized over him which could suggest that the Death Eaters feel safe from him.

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

Quin claimed to patronus me and timmer.
Speedchuck claims to have watched Quin target LC.
Both of them stuck to their guns and rejected any alternatives other than that the other was lying.
Speedchuck is dead and town.

It may not be as easy as this.

[nutella]

[VOTE: poutanko] aubergine


I'm totally lost you guys

[nutella]

I feel like I spend so much time doing all that analysis and now just feel like I understand this game less than I did before

[DharmaHelper]

What if we just lynched Quin

[nutella]

I'd be happy just lynching kara or sprit though imo they're most likely bad?

[nutella]

What if we just lynched Quin

Ok

[nutella]

*changes vote every thirty seconds just to feel alive*

[Jackofhearts2005]

Holy crap my phone almost autocorrected "bad" to "BadJack" lmfaoooo

[DharmaHelper]

I'm voting Quin for now.

[Sloonei]

Orly?

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

Quin claimed to patronus me and timmer.
Speedchuck claims to have watched Quin target LC.
Both of them stuck to their guns and rejected any alternatives other than that the other was lying.
Speedchuck is dead and town.

It may not be as easy as this.

There’s certainly more to it than the bullet points. But that’s the general outline. We’ve talked about the possibilities to no end, and to me it seems the most likely scenario is that one of them was lying. We now know it wasn’t speedchuck, unless his was is faked.

[Sloonei]

I feel like I spend so much time doing all that analysis and now just feel like I understand this game less than I did before

Yeah that happens sometimes. The best solution is to close your eyes and hope for the best.

[Sloonei]

... so what if speedchuck’s flip is fake?

[nutella]

I feel like I spend so much time doing all that analysis and now just feel like I understand this game less than I did before

Yeah that happens sometimes. The best solution is to close your eyes and hope for the best.

[DharmaHelper]

... so what if speedchuck’s flip is fake?

That'd be wild lol.

[nutella]

... so what if speedchuck’s flip is fake?

I thought we decided there weren't fake flips in this game because of the thing in the rules about ddl not lying to us? but idk if that's really what that means though

[DharmaHelper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB39dP2egi0

[nutella]

- This is not a bastard game, so I will not lie to you. However, it is possible for abilities that obtain information to be fooled.

tbh this sounds to me like there aren't fake-flipping roles

[juliets]

Yes. Do something.

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

Quin claimed to patronus me and timmer.
Speedchuck claims to have watched Quin target LC.
Both of them stuck to their guns and rejected any alternatives other than that the other was lying.
Speedchuck is dead and town.

It may not be as easy as this.

There’s certainly more to it than the bullet points. But that’s the general outline. We’ve talked about the possibilities to no end, and to me it seems the most likely scenario is that one of them was lying. We now know it wasn’t speedchuck, unless his was is faked.

I really can't say unfortunately what my thought is which is frustrating for me and probably you too but I'm not inclined to vote for Quin today.

linki

[Sloonei]

... so what if speedchuck’s flip is fake?

I thought we decided there weren't fake flips in this game because of the thing in the rules about ddl not lying to us? but idk if that's really what that means though

I hope this is the case. I’d roll with it if there’s nothing that clearly indicates their a thing in the rules.

[nutella]

Why doesn't it bode well for Quin?

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

Quin claimed to patronus me and timmer.
Speedchuck claims to have watched Quin target LC.
Both of them stuck to their guns and rejected any alternatives other than that the other was lying.
Speedchuck is dead and town.

It may not be as easy as this.

There’s certainly more to it than the bullet points. But that’s the general outline. We’ve talked about the possibilities to no end, and to me it seems the most likely scenario is that one of them was lying. We now know it wasn’t speedchuck, unless his was is faked.

I really can't say unfortunately what my thought is which is frustrating for me and probably you too but I'm not inclined to vote for Quin today.

linki

ok I want to trust you on this.

I'm [VOTE: kara] aubergine for now

[DharmaHelper]

... Quin and speedchuck openly contradicting each other and consuming the thread.

Assume I didn't read any of that.

Quin claimed to patronus me and timmer.
Speedchuck claims to have watched Quin target LC.
Both of them stuck to their guns and rejected any alternatives other than that the other was lying.
Speedchuck is dead and town.

It may not be as easy as this.

There’s certainly more to it than the bullet points. But that’s the general outline. We’ve talked about the possibilities to no end, and to me it seems the most likely scenario is that one of them was lying. We now know it wasn’t speedchuck, unless his was is faked.

I really can't say unfortunately what my thought is which is frustrating for me and probably you too but I'm not inclined to vote for Quin today.

linki

ok I want to trust you on this.

I'm [VOTE: kara] aubergine for now

Yo nutella is buggin

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol wild that Poutanko came out with that "Hey Chuck is bad" post the day INH got rezzed huh what a crazy coincidence my fellows

You wanna lynch her? I'm open to anything right now tbh

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[Sloonei]

In which I figure out what Quin's relationship to the dead bad guys is/was:

Maybe he's a baddie with the ability to appear Civ upon their lynch. Get lynched - look Civ - use up rez - PROFIT!!!

This.

This "This" is Quin's first interaction with Long Con. The header tells me This comes from Day 3. The This which Quin is Thising at is a paranoia-sowing theory about fake role flips. Who even thinks like that!? Suffice to say I'm not in favor of this development. The entire first page of Quin's ISO turns up nothing when I Ctrl+f any variation of names/nicknames for either LC or INH. I'm not inclined to call that a good look.

big post with long con in it

I didn't get that subtle defence or whatever from LC at all. Dunno how you interpreted it that way.

Quin singles out a point on Long Con from a much more expansive post by nutella. It appears that Quin is providing skepticism of a theory against LC. The follow up does nothing. I'm not really sure what Quin is even talking about here.

After that, LC is dead and the whole claim saga between Quin and Speedchuck happens. Knowing that speed's claim was not false, I really struggle to see Quin in the same positive light as before. Even yesterday, I was only inclined to favor Quin in the argument because of outside evidence against Speedchuck, namely Poutanko's claim, which we now know to have been either incorrect or fabricated.

RED

Quin and INH:

Am I nuts or is "Maybe the guys who are flipping bad are actually good" Not a civilian-minded conspiracy theory? What is even the point here? How has this become the hot topic of the day?

Since when do we have two dead Mafia on day 3 with zero having been lynched? It's like a metaphor for society in general right now.

if one of the two dead scum are good who is it and why?

I dunno, INH because he actually posted some?

for a guy who's been leading this discussion about fake flips you don't seem especially opinionated about it.

This is the first time Quin really offers any sort of acknowledgment of INH in this game. It's barely anything. Absence makes the heart grow scummier.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol wild that Poutanko came out with that "Hey Chuck is bad" post the day INH got rezzed huh what a crazy coincidence my fellows

Did Poutanko check speed night 2 or 3? INH was razzed night 3. I thought the speed check was night 2 but maybe I'm just wrong.

The point is the timing of the reveal, not the timing of the actual copping.

[Sloonei]

LC and Quin, from the other side.

I'm going to have essentially zero time until Tuesday night or Wednesday. While I'm not here y'all best find excuses to do work and not excuses to do fuck all. Epi's recent grumbles are valid.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine, because he said some shit I didn't like earlier. He provided a token response to Epi's dig at juliets which just looked like "this is where I am supposed to interject with this here comment" instead of "this is a problem and I want to address it".

on what planet would epis post actually be a problem though

You tell me.

Jupiter?

Great choice.

Nothing at all.
After that there's just some indirect mentions and an olive green placement on a WIFOM-stirring rainbow list. For the most part this remains nothing at all.

INH & Quin

I'm going to have essentially zero time until Tuesday night or Wednesday. While I'm not here y'all best find excuses to do work and not excuses to do fuck all. Epi's recent grumbles are valid.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine, because he said some shit I didn't like earlier. He provided a token response to Epi's dig at juliets which just looked like "this is where I am supposed to interject with this here comment" instead of "this is a problem and I want to address it".

This is the post in question:

juliets and I are not teammates.

There. Go. Find bad guys.

so you know you're on different teams

I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't have read anything at all into Quin saying that, and the fact that Jay did is a little weird.

"LIKE!"

Soft defense

IAMA Death Eater, AMAA. (Can't out my teammates, but glad to talk about anything else game-related!)

you're a bad boy

Nothing at all

Quin is suffering from Stupid Sexy Flanders Syndrome in the interactive department.

[MacDougall]

I'd be happy just lynching kara or sprit though imo they're most likely bad?

I concur

[Quin]

You better have a damn good explanation m'boy.

And @karavalenge you're not off the hook either. I still don't really believe a town motivation for flooing speed.

You sure work fast.

[Quin]

So...I can't vote today. That's a bit awkward, LOL!

There's a nice segue there though.

Who wants my hallow?