Hogwarts Mafia - END

#5001

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:00 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm Timmer is Jack's partner
Excuse me? Because I'm asking for your proof of Jack's badness?
I told you he fucked up in Flooville and tried to Long Con me with talks of "Oh I'm a cop and such and such and this and that" and with Luna and Pountanko both in-thread claiming cops, I took a real hard think and was like "Wait a minute, Jack is bad."

To be clear: He claimed cop, but then didn't tell you what his IDs were?

#5002

For the moment, I've moved my vote to sprit.

I have no major read of my own there, but the cop situation is now a mess and I'm not touching any of them. And Luna's posts on day 2 do support her claim at first glance.

@DH, which is it? Did he say "way less" to you than the other cops, or did he say such n such and this and that?

#5003

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:59 pm God damn it ever since sloonei kept saying "tell me why" that backstreet boys song has been stuck in my head

ain't nothing but a heartache

#5004

DH, it's pretty important (to me at least) that you tell us what happened in detail. It's going to take more than scraps and fragments to convince me to vote for Jack.

#5005

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:00 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm Timmer is Jack's partner
Excuse me? Because I'm asking for your proof of Jack's badness?
I told you he fucked up in Flooville and tried to Long Con me with talks of "Oh I'm a cop and such and such and this and that" and with Luna and Pountanko both in-thread claiming cops, I took a real hard think and was like "Wait a minute, Jack is bad."

I’ve been trying to talk to you about my results all day.

#5006

Jack has been speaking in a nonsensical code.

#5007

Lynch Jack. Or don't, and lynch a civ. That's up to yall.

#5008

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:04 pm Lynch Jack. Or don't, and lynch a civ. That's up to yall.

JFC dude, tell me ONE thing he has told you that doesn't add up. One.

#5009

"I'm not Jack's teammate I'm just voting to save him while ignoring the confirmed civ telling me he's bad" Wow ok Timmer great point.

#5010

I’ve got a town check on Sloonei and Luna.

I masoned with DH partially because the scum had killed Kyle, who I had planned to reveal my results to via secret code, and partially to tell him to lay off Sloonei. He said that I could be wrong or I could be scum with Sloonei. You can see me asking him about it earlier today (I wasn’t having a stroke).

You can also see me out of nowhere talk about Luna with a green smiley. That’s code for “I checked Luna and she is town.”

I’ve been acting scummy for the first half of the game so I wouldn’t get nked and going to great lengths to keep my id secret and this is really annoying.

#5011

And for the record, I've trusted you all game. I'm here willing to trust you, but just give me one little example of how what he is saying can't be true.

#5012

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:06 pm "I'm not Jack's teammate I'm just voting to save him while ignoring the confirmed civ telling me he's bad" Wow ok Timmer great point.

Who is a confirmed civ?

#5013

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:06 pm And for the record, I've trusted you all game. I'm here willing to trust you, but just give me one little example of how what he is saying can't be true.

I've explained in as much detail as I can as to why I believe Jack is the rotten fish in this barrel of cops.

- I don't think there are 3 civilian cops
- Poutanko and Luna seem more legit in the thread
- Jack was a squirelly little wormy squirell in Flooville when I asked him questions that in hindsight look pretty suspiciouso.

#5014

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:09 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:06 pm "I'm not Jack's teammate I'm just voting to save him while ignoring the confirmed civ telling me he's bad" Wow ok Timmer great point.
Who is a confirmed civ?

Me lol.

#5015

Ay look if you guys don't want to lynch a mafia that's up to you I did my bit.

#5016

My gut reaction is that if one of our cops is lying, it's poutanko. I'm not sure I think any of our cops are lying, but luna's claim is batshit insane if she's bad, and Jack's behavior, now that it's been explained, seems to make perfect sense if he's a cop trying to lay low.

#5017

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:52 pm Why does he have to be the liar**
Because he revealed less to me, a confirmed civ, about his supposed checks than poutanko and Owner have in the whole thread.

And I tried pressing him a few times and he fucked off.

What? This never happened.

#5018

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:10 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:09 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:06 pm "I'm not Jack's teammate I'm just voting to save him while ignoring the confirmed civ telling me he's bad" Wow ok Timmer great point.
Who is a confirmed civ?
Me lol.

How's that? Yes, you have a cop vouching for you, but with redirections etc. I wouldn't say anything is confirmed. But I trust you, I have all game!

#5019

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:10 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:09 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:06 pm "I'm not Jack's teammate I'm just voting to save him while ignoring the confirmed civ telling me he's bad" Wow ok Timmer great point.
Who is a confirmed civ?
Me lol.

Says the guy who wasn't even cleared by two different cops.

#5020

FROM THE GUY THAT BROUGHT YOU LONG CON

COMES A STORY OF ONE MANS QUEST TO GET THESE IDIOTS TO LYNCH JUST ONE MAFIA THE WHOLE GAME

DHARMAHELPER IS:

FUCKIN BEWILDERED

#5021

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:11 pm My gut reaction is that if one of our cops is lying, it's poutanko. I'm not sure I think any of our cops are lying, but luna's claim is batshit insane if she's bad, and Jack's behavior, now that it's been explained, seems to make perfect sense if he's a cop trying to lay low.

poutanko's claim was proven FALSE. That puts poutanko as the weak cop link, for me. But I'm not voting for any of them. My vote stays on sprit and I'm getting back to my job.

#5022

Jay: Jack why won’t you help me clear you?
Jack: *shrug*

Cause I didn’t want to be cleared ffs.

#5023

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:11 pm My gut reaction is that if one of our cops is lying, it's poutanko. I'm not sure I think any of our cops are lying, but luna's claim is batshit insane if she's bad, and Jack's behavior, now that it's been explained, seems to make perfect sense if he's a cop trying to lay low.
poutanko's claim was proven FALSE. That puts poutanko as the weak cop link, for me. But I'm not voting for any of them. My vote stays on sprit and I'm getting back to my job.

Admirable that Timmer steps in to save his teammate lol

#5024

@Sloonei
@MacDougall
@juliets
@karavalenge
@Quin

Vote for Jack so I can be double-confirmed civ please.

#5025

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:11 pm My gut reaction is that if one of our cops is lying, it's poutanko. I'm not sure I think any of our cops are lying, but luna's claim is batshit insane if she's bad, and Jack's behavior, now that it's been explained, seems to make perfect sense if he's a cop trying to lay low.
poutanko's claim was proven FALSE. That puts poutanko as the weak cop link, for me. But I'm not voting for any of them. My vote stays on sprit and I'm getting back to my job.

The circumstances of poutanko's claim are also the closest to dubious of the three. She was not in danger, and neither was her supposed town clear (Colin). She came out, somewhat abruptly, to condemn speedchuck when skepticism was mounting around his watcher claim.

I'm still hesitant to say that Poutanko is a liar outright, but if one of our cops is lying it's her.

#5026

@Jackofhearts2005 care to share your side of this story in more detail?

#5027

#5028

juliets
nutella
lunalee
DharmaHelper
Jack
Quin
timmer
Poutanko
Macdougall
karavalenge
Colin
Sprityo

#5029

How in every game do I wind up in the position of trying to convince people that a person who is bad is bad and then they don't believe me and then we lose because they dont believe me lol how

#5030

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:57 pm I'm not buying Luna's claim for the simple reason that her targets are shit. [VOTE: luna] aubergine

Wow, I'm sort of offended by this. This is the first time I've been a cop in a mafia game, and I've been doing my best, okay?

#5031

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:17 pm

I hear you loud and clear. I don't find it to be definitive. Are you telling us everything?

#5032

Jack is bad and Timmer is going to NK me so please for the fuckin' love of Christ lynch Jack

#5033

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:11 pm My gut reaction is that if one of our cops is lying, it's poutanko. I'm not sure I think any of our cops are lying, but luna's claim is batshit insane if she's bad, and Jack's behavior, now that it's been explained, seems to make perfect sense if he's a cop trying to lay low.

Yup

#5034

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:57 pm I'm not buying Luna's claim for the simple reason that her targets are shit. [VOTE: luna] aubergine
Wow, I'm sort of offended by this. This is the first time I've been a cop in a mafia game, and I've been doing my best, okay?

LUNALEE MY DEAR SWEET LUNALEE VOTE FOR JACK WHO IS BAD

#5035

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm How in every game do I wind up in the position of trying to convince people that a person who is bad is bad and then they don't believe me and then we lose because they dont believe me lol how

Maybe you should work on convincing us rather than making pleading statements like this. I'm listening. Sell me on the case.

#5036

My brain is very confused by being convinced that Sloobei is scum and also agreeing with him re: Jack

#5037

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm My brain is very confused by being convinced that Sloobei is scum and also agreeing with him re: Jack

Jack and luna say they've ID'd me as town, clearly they both can't be wrong.

#5038

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm How in every game do I wind up in the position of trying to convince people that a person who is bad is bad and then they don't believe me and then we lose because they dont believe me lol how
Maybe you should work on convincing us rather than making pleading statements like this. I'm listening. Sell me on the case.

The case is "Jack is bad please lynch him I'm very smart and very good at this game and if you don't believe me check out Firefly and that one LC game A World Apart I think it was and the five million other games I called out the baddies and nobody believed me and we lost lol this is fun"

#5039

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm My brain is very confused by being convinced that Sloobei is scum and also agreeing with him re: Jack
Jack and luna say they've ID'd me as town, clearly they both can't be wrong.

If *Secrets* bullshit gets applied to me then you ain’t getting off that easy partner

#5040

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:55 pm Still want that explanation from Luna though.

What do you want me to say to you nutella? You already called my targets shit. I chose them because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Take it or leave it.

#5041

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm How in every game do I wind up in the position of trying to convince people that a person who is bad is bad and then they don't believe me and then we lose because they dont believe me lol how
Maybe you should work on convincing us rather than making pleading statements like this. I'm listening. Sell me on the case.
The case is "Jack is bad please lynch him I'm very smart and very good at this game and if you don't believe me check out Firefly and that one LC game A World Apart I think it was and the five million other games I called out the baddies and nobody believed me and we lost lol this is fun"

No thanks then.

#5042

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:21 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:57 pm I'm not buying Luna's claim for the simple reason that her targets are shit. [VOTE: luna] aubergine
Wow, I'm sort of offended by this. This is the first time I've been a cop in a mafia game, and I've been doing my best, okay?
LUNALEE MY DEAR SWEET LUNALEE VOTE FOR JACK WHO IS BAD

Fine, sure, okay.
[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

#5043

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:24 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm How in every game do I wind up in the position of trying to convince people that a person who is bad is bad and then they don't believe me and then we lose because they dont believe me lol how
Maybe you should work on convincing us rather than making pleading statements like this. I'm listening. Sell me on the case.
The case is "Jack is bad please lynch him I'm very smart and very good at this game and if you don't believe me check out Firefly and that one LC game A World Apart I think it was and the five million other games I called out the baddies and nobody believed me and we lost lol this is fun"
No thanks then.

You're either bad with Jack or you deserve to lose.

#5044

I don’t want to lynch anybody claiming cop tbh but if I did the top one should be poutanko, they’ve definitively led us astray before.

#5045

SLOONEI YOU HAVE AVOIDED MY QUESTION TWICE NOW EVEN WHEN I PINGED YOU. WTF MAN????

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

You have had over an hour to answer

Stop dodging

#5046

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:16 pm Jackofhearts2005 care to share your side of this story in more detail?

It’s true I claimed cop to DH in floochat. I have no idea what stuff he thinks I avoided talking about. He was practically missing from our chat the whole night phase.

#5047

And none of my results contradict the other claimed cop results. That’s flat false.

#5048

Ugh now I'm going to get in trouble here at work ffs lol...

DH, tell me ONE FUCKING THING jack said that is wrong? All I'm hearing from you is that you think there can't be 3 cops, and you are ignoring that one of the others has had their claimed results proven false. Tell me SOMETHING beyond just that "there can be only 2 cops". I trust you, but I can't even see a single reason you've listed beyond "he must be lying?"

#5049

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:24 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm How in every game do I wind up in the position of trying to convince people that a person who is bad is bad and then they don't believe me and then we lose because they dont believe me lol how
Maybe you should work on convincing us rather than making pleading statements like this. I'm listening. Sell me on the case.
The case is "Jack is bad please lynch him I'm very smart and very good at this game and if you don't believe me check out Firefly and that one LC game A World Apart I think it was and the five million other games I called out the baddies and nobody believed me and we lost lol this is fun"
No thanks then.
You're either bad with Jack or you deserve to lose.

Dude, just yelling at people to listen to you doesn't work when you're not saying anything else. Work me through your process. How did you arrive at this conclusion? I'm not just gonna blindly follow you because you act authoritative. You floo'd with Jack and some things happened. What were those things? Why do they make him bad?

We've been given very few details, from either of you, since all this was revealed.

#5050

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:26 pm Ugh now I'm going to get in trouble here at work ffs lol...

DH, tell me ONE FUCKING THING jack said that is wrong? All I'm hearing from you is that you think there can't be 3 cops, and you are ignoring that one of the others has had their claimed results proven false. Tell me SOMETHING beyond just that "there can be only 2 cops". I trust you, but I can't even see a single reason you've listed beyond "he must be lying?"

You can go back to work if you want I don't wanna get you in trouble on the same day I lynched your partner.