Hogwarts Mafia - END

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6501

Also the interaction where pout called out Jack for "being nervous" looks super sketch to me (plus this lolol)

#6502

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:36 am @Quin @Sloonei

What do you think of my assertion that Colin can only be mafia if Pout is mafia and even then, it requires Pout to play in a needlessly risky fashion?

Furthermore, if this is the case, that’s probably the mafia. Pout and Colin. Your other suspects are all town.

Does this affect your scumread on Colin at all? Is a Pout/Colin scumteam plausible to you?

Anyone else who suspects Colin but is Pout agnostic or pro Pout should answer this question.

This is beautiful WIFOM. If Jack expected us to lynch Colin first, then he just town-cleared Poutanko with this post. Unfortunately for him, Jack flipped first.

#6503

IDK I feel better about a poutanko vote than a Luna vote by several miles, so ...

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6504

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:36 am @Quin @Sloonei

What do you think of my assertion that Colin can only be mafia if Pout is mafia and even then, it requires Pout to play in a needlessly risky fashion?

Furthermore, if this is the case, that’s probably the mafia. Pout and Colin. Your other suspects are all town.

Does this affect your scumread on Colin at all? Is a Pout/Colin scumteam plausible to you?

Anyone else who suspects Colin but is Pout agnostic or pro Pout should answer this question.
This is beautiful WIFOM. If Jack expected us to lynch Colin first, then he just town-cleared Poutanko with this post. Unfortunately for him, Jack flipped first.

And if pout was lynched it easily sets up Colin for a mislynch.

I'm feeling better and better about this. Ravenclaw really coming in clutch here

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6505

[mention]juliets[/mention] [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention] please vote for pout, we solved it

#6506

Luna's post re: Jack's point about Colin and Pout is a good find but what are you guys saying the strongest point against Pout is?

#6507

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6508

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:11 pm Luna's post re: Jack's point about Colin and Pout is a good find but what are you guys saying the strongest point against Pout is?

Jack's interactions and progression on her on day 5 imo.

#6509

All I see is wine in front of me

#6510

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:11 pm Luna's post re: Jack's point about Colin and Pout is a good find but what are you guys saying the strongest point against Pout is?

Just POE. What specifically makes her town-firmed? I'm coming up short and finding more that incriminates her.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6511

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:13 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:11 pm Luna's post re: Jack's point about Colin and Pout is a good find but what are you guys saying the strongest point against Pout is?
Just POE. What specifically makes her town-firmed? I'm coming up short and finding more that incriminates her.

This too. I have far more reason to see Luna and Colin as town than pout, and the more I dig on pout and jack I can see them being teammates.

#6512

ok I'm in another time zone and unsure when day ends so I'll vote her based on what you guys are saying and then iso her and look at jack's progression on her.

#6513

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:59 pm Colin is good.
Bullz/Speed is bad.
Idk how I can be clearer than this, you guys are so dense
I kept my vote on Bullz/Speed for 2 days in a row ffs.

I did reconsider some fuck up happened to me or my target but
>LC lynch was failed
>no town ability that might cause that
>"hey I think LC is good because 3/5 something something"

Add to his D2 lynch that went to someone else. Yeah, scum.

If someone know whoever targeted me last night that person might be scum.

I have never seen a Mafia player under zero pressure sincerely invent a red peek on a single civilian player because it is utter suicide. If Pout is Mafia how else do you explain this?

Give me a real good explanation and we can go from there.

Linki: Ffs

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6514

Day ends in an hour.

[mention]DharmaHelper[/mention] did you say you used the lep coins for today so your vote does count?

#6515

Possible scumchat:

Pout: Hey guys I am gonna reveal that I am a cop in the thread and say Speedchuck is Mafia to get him lynched.

Long Con, Jack, INH, Nova: Very good idea. Trading 1 for 1 on a bullshit cop reveal is a great way for us to win.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6516

Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.

#6517

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.

Saving a civ as scum is, again, not that weird. Especially if you have divination and want to hard claim it and be trusted for it without bodying a teammate. Need I remind you that Sloonei died pretty soon after as well.

#6518

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] I understand your skepticism, but literally every other player has done things/claimed things that make them look town. There's a scum here playing a very good game, and we're going to have to see past it.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6519

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.
Saving a civ as scum is, again, not that weird. Especially if you have divination and want to hard claim it and be trusted for it without bodying a teammate. Need I remind you that Sloonei died pretty soon after as well.

Mmmmm.......

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm @MacDougall I understand your skepticism, but literally every other player has done things/claimed things that make them look town. There's a scum here playing a very good game, and we're going to have to see past it.

...hmmmmmm.

[VOTE: luna] aubergine

#6520

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.
Saving a civ as scum is, again, not that weird. Especially if you have divination and want to hard claim it and be trusted for it without bodying a teammate. Need I remind you that Sloonei died pretty soon after as well.
Mmmmm.......

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm @MacDougall I understand your skepticism, but literally every other player has done things/claimed things that make them look town. There's a scum here playing a very good game, and we're going to have to see past it.
...hmmmmmm.

[VOTE: luna] aubergine

The heck? I thought you were finally seeing reason. I AM NOT SCUM.

#6521

I am not saying Luna is a great lynch either really but if you are weighing up their two major civ ticks I see Luna's as more scum compatible despite what it seems on the surface.

Though to be quite honest I am not sure enough about anyone here to decide this lynch. I wouldn't put a single scum read at more than maybe 20 percent confidence. Given that I will vote consensus eventually as long as everyone really has all the cards laid out as opposed to what amounts to a CFD.

#6522

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:27 pm I am not saying Luna is a great lynch either really but if you are weighing up their two major civ ticks I see Luna's as more scum compatible despite what it seems on the surface.

Though to be quite honest I am not sure enough about anyone here to decide this lynch. I wouldn't put a single scum read at more than maybe 20 percent confidence. Given that I will vote consensus eventually as long as everyone really has all the cards laid out as opposed to what amounts to a CFD.

then trust me on this one and vote pout

#6523

From what I have read and analysed in this game holistically I would have Luna as my top choice with much doubt. Colin is still second. Everyone else is tied as tinfoil candidates for me.

Linki: The problem is if I was going to pick someone to defer my vote to you wouldn't be it. This Pout wagon only exists because you tried to save yourself. That alone makes it flawed.

#6524

[mention]nutella[/mention] do a thought exercise please and plan out what you're going to do when I flip town. Who will you go after next?

#6525

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm From what I have read and analysed in this game holistically I would have Luna as my top choice with much doubt. Colin is still second. Everyone else is tied as tinfoil candidates for me.

Linki: The problem is if I was going to pick someone to defer my vote to you wouldn't be it. This Pout wagon only exists because you tried to save yourself. That alone makes it flawed.

I'm still trying in this game because I'm not dead yet. If I were scum I would have given up by now.

#6526

Luna please take me back a ways and explain why you targeted Epi on night 2?

#6527

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm From what I have read and analysed in this game holistically I would have Luna as my top choice with much doubt. Colin is still second. Everyone else is tied as tinfoil candidates for me.

Linki: The problem is if I was going to pick someone to defer my vote to you wouldn't be it. This Pout wagon only exists because you tried to save yourself. That alone makes it flawed.
I'm still trying in this game because I'm not dead yet. If I were scum I would have given up by now.

Why would you have?

#6528

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.
Saving a civ as scum is, again, not that weird. Especially if you have divination and want to hard claim it and be trusted for it without bodying a teammate. Need I remind you that Sloonei died pretty soon after as well.
Mmmmm.......

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm @MacDougall I understand your skepticism, but literally every other player has done things/claimed things that make them look town. There's a scum here playing a very good game, and we're going to have to see past it.
...hmmmmmm.

[VOTE: luna] aubergine

"We solved it"

*votes for the cop*

Cool.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6529

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm @nutella do a thought exercise please and plan out what you're going to do when I flip town. Who will you go after next?

Pout. Maybe Colin.

I'm still deciding don't worry.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6530

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm From what I have read and analysed in this game holistically I would have Luna as my top choice with much doubt. Colin is still second. Everyone else is tied as tinfoil candidates for me.

Linki: The problem is if I was going to pick someone to defer my vote to you wouldn't be it. This Pout wagon only exists because you tried to save yourself. That alone makes it flawed.

This is kiiinda true. But I really hadn't considered it enough until now and I think it's a very real possibility.

#6531

This day has come down to seven very town looking players, but we know one is scum. You all should know that my town game is not pretty. I always come out looking a bit strange, and end up getting lynched. My cop role claim has let me last this long, but when I'm up against six other very good looking players, it makes since to lynch me. I get it. But just understand that it is not the right choice here.

#6532

I'm afraid to go read because I might miss some rationale here.

Eh...Luna I don't think you would have given up if you were scum.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6533

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.
Saving a civ as scum is, again, not that weird. Especially if you have divination and want to hard claim it and be trusted for it without bodying a teammate. Need I remind you that Sloonei died pretty soon after as well.
Mmmmm.......

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm @MacDougall I understand your skepticism, but literally every other player has done things/claimed things that make them look town. There's a scum here playing a very good game, and we're going to have to see past it.
...hmmmmmm.

[VOTE: luna] aubergine
"We solved it"

*votes for the cop*

Cool.

I'm a flip-flopping mind-changing gullible-ass basic bitch and you better know it

Waiting for Luna's answer to Mac's q but probably gonna switch back.

#6534

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:32 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm From what I have read and analysed in this game holistically I would have Luna as my top choice with much doubt. Colin is still second. Everyone else is tied as tinfoil candidates for me.

Linki: The problem is if I was going to pick someone to defer my vote to you wouldn't be it. This Pout wagon only exists because you tried to save yourself. That alone makes it flawed.
I'm still trying in this game because I'm not dead yet. If I were scum I would have given up by now.
Why would you have?

I'm less forceful as scum. And have more of a "you've got me" attitude when I get cornered.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6535

Luna can you answer mac's q about why you targeted Epi and can you also please tell us what ability you used on night 3 pretty please and thank you

#6536

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:32 pm Luna please take me back a ways and explain why you targeted Epi on night 2?

Because I thought he was being careful and quiet and if he was scum no one would realize it for a while.

#6537

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm Ummm idk finding the scum motivation for that is about as easy as finding the scum motivation for Luna's sloonei reveal.
Saving a civ as scum is, again, not that weird. Especially if you have divination and want to hard claim it and be trusted for it without bodying a teammate. Need I remind you that Sloonei died pretty soon after as well.
Mmmmm.......

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm @MacDougall I understand your skepticism, but literally every other player has done things/claimed things that make them look town. There's a scum here playing a very good game, and we're going to have to see past it.
...hmmmmmm.

[VOTE: luna] aubergine
"We solved it"

*votes for the cop*

Cool.

You are unbelievable.

#6538

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:32 pm Luna please take me back a ways and explain why you targeted Epi on night 2?
Because I thought he was being careful and quiet and if he was scum no one would realize it for a while.

So the fact that you were his pet candidate played no part in it?

#6539

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] Also because of this. I know I'm town, and also knew Owner was town at this point.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:24 pm Mafia:

Owner
Lunalee
JJJ

That's a player antipasto.

#6540

Four of us here actually trying to gamesolve and DH is content to troll efforts as opposed to actually find Mafia. Considering how invested in and accurate you have been DH I am surprised not to see a bit more effort here from you.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6541

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:53 am I won't have much time today to post, but you guys really shouldn't lynch me. I'm civilain. I have Divination, Arresto Momentum and Hippogriff. I've used Divination as previously claimed. Night 3 I used Hippogriff to protect myself, and I have yet to use Arresto Momentum. I don't know if this gives anyone any helpful info, but I'm laying it all out in hopes that it changes things. I'm town, and this lynch train on me is stupid.

Oh right you said this I forgot. Hmmmm. Hippogriff could explain a kill but it's also an easy thing to fake claim if you actually killed someone.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6542

But then perhaps Epi targeted you with something n3 since he suspected you and the hippogriff killed him.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #6543

[VOTE: pout] aubergine

#6544

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:39 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:53 am I won't have much time today to post, but you guys really shouldn't lynch me. I'm civilain. I have Divination, Arresto Momentum and Hippogriff. I've used Divination as previously claimed. Night 3 I used Hippogriff to protect myself, and I have yet to use Arresto Momentum. I don't know if this gives anyone any helpful info, but I'm laying it all out in hopes that it changes things. I'm town, and this lynch train on me is stupid.
Oh right you said this I forgot. Hmmmm. Hippogriff could explain a kill but it's also an easy thing to fake claim if you actually killed someone.

how?

#6545

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:40 pm But then perhaps Epi targeted you with something n3 since he suspected you and the hippogriff killed him.

Ahhh that is a good explanation Imo.

#6546

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:40 pm But then perhaps Epi targeted you with something n3 since he suspected you and the hippogriff killed him.

oh I see.

#6547

Luna you voiced no suspicion of Epi during day 2. He did however voiced suspicion of you. In fact you ignored his prods for the most part. You actually had great suspicion of INH on day 2 as well as Bullzeye. Yet you cop checked a player who suspected you rather than you suspect. A suspect that died that very night and flipped mafia btw.

To me this is the best case we have.

#6548

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:33 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm @nutella do a thought exercise please and plan out what you're going to do when I flip town. Who will you go after next?
Pout. Maybe Colin.

I'm still deciding don't worry.

cool, thanks

#6549

INH was the source of most of your doubt during day 2. Why did you not cop check him?

#6550

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:45 pm Luna you voiced no suspicion of Epi during day 2. He did however voiced suspicion of you. In fact you ignored his prods for the most part. You actually had great suspicion of INH on day 2 as well as Bullzeye. Yet you cop checked a player who suspected you rather than you suspect. A suspect that died that very night and flipped mafia btw.

To me this is the best case we have.

Then I wouldn't have accomplished much by checking him if he died before he could get lynched. Believe me, it's not easy choosing who to check each night. Everyone looked guilty to me.