SPACE FORCE [END]

[MacDougall]

At least the foregone conclusion gave Jay time to craft an excellent lynch post.

[Dyslexicon]

What's dumb is that I didn't really read Mac's posts well, and I'm sorry about that.

[speedchuck]

Kay, well, I'm here.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm going to deal with this tomorrow. Good night.

linki oh hi

[Dyslexicon]

Kay, well, I'm here.

First thoughts?

[speedchuck]

Kay, well, I'm here.

First thoughts?

SpaceDaisy better be hella lucky.

[Dyslexicon]

Kay, well, I'm here.

First thoughts?

SpaceDaisy better be hella lucky.

K, yeah.

Well I don't have direction. Just irritation. Anyway, I'm out.

[speedchuck]

I'm floundering. There are three people it could be.
Dunya.
Luna.
Dizzy.

I'm pretty sure it isn't Dizzy. I have a townread there.

I've been ignoring Luna after the lynch. Her vote is the only reason I townread her, but that's strong.

I don't think I'm the best person to revisit Dunya.

[dunya]

Confident it's between Luna and Dizzy.

If I was voting rn without revisiting their isos I would put a vote on dizzy because of their position in the voting. Luna tied Quin with 2 other bandwagon. Dizzy threw a first vote on Quin.

I'm confident Daisy and speed are town.

Speed, please feel free to revisit me. Make a case. I don't mind tbh. I'll try to ignore it unless there's something that screams at me.

[dunya]

I am a huge asshole though..sorry Mac.

Let's call it even for your part in my mislynch in MK.

[dunya]

Yeah sorry, can't see a way around voting Dizzy tomorrow. I will reread their ISO but I can't see a world where this is scum Luna. It's Dizzy.

[dunya]

Daisy, I don't know who you are protecting tonight but I strongly suggest self protecting if it was me. Going into LyLo with one confirmed townie is a heck of a lot better than not. Your choice 100%, just my input. If it is Dizzy, theyre going to try and kill one of Luna, speed or me which is gonna make them look bad one way or the other.

[dunya]

I'm pretty sure it isn't Dizzy. I have a townread there.

I lay off Dizzy because I felt like an ass being the only one scum reading them and I was worried I could be tunnelling. I regret that though. As much as their answers were passionate, they didn't really ease my mind and their vote placement in the Quin lynch still looks worst out of the three.

Why are you townreading dizzy? I havent played with them before, but nothing they've said or done makes me guarantee their towniness.

Also I find it hard to believe they could lay off me simply based on Spacedaisy's read which has never towncleard me in the first place. Not buying it. Dizzy saw I had cooled off them so they reciprocated. It's typical scum behaviour in my experience.

[dunya]

P.s. Mac, you are my best town reader. I'm convinced now. Sorry bud, the odds were against you and I fucked up.

[Lunalee]

You guys sure about this MacDougal vote? I mean speed or dunya are still viable options.

how is speed or dunya better choices than MacDougall?

if mac flips good, i'll remember this post.

Because of this post right here.

[Lunalee]

What's dumb is that I didn't really read Mac's posts well, and I'm sorry about that.

Here's an excuse for lynching a civ. It doesn't look too good to me.

[Lunalee]

I want to suspect speed as bad, but I don't think he really is. Mostly because of him trying to "trap" dunya with game mechanics, and claiming to have asked Jay about the super secret mafia role. Just would be a lot of acting for him to be bad. Not saying it isn't possible, but I don't see it as very likely.

[dunya]

I want to suspect speed as bad, but I don't think he really is. Mostly because of him trying to "trap" dunya with game mechanics, and claiming to have asked Jay about the super secret mafia role. Just would be a lot of acting for him to be bad. Not saying it isn't possible, but I don't see it as very likely.

I removed speed from suspect pool after reviewing his posts but yeah, i didn't think of that "i asked the host about xx". it does strengthen the speed townread. i'm glad you pointed it out, as well.

You guys sure about this MacDougal vote? I mean speed or dunya are still viable options.

how is speed or dunya better choices than MacDougall?

if mac flips good, i'll remember this post.

Because of this post right here.

i dont understand. someone coming in at the eleventh hour after voting for mac herself and saying "hey guys, r we sure it's mac cos it could be speed or dunya" and yet keeping her vote on mac and not presenting opposing arguments is a bad look and i'd like to know where your head was at there.

actually, even though i'm sold on it being dizzy i'd still to know where your head was at with that.

[Lunalee]

Spoiler: show

I want to suspect speed as bad, but I don't think he really is. Mostly because of him trying to "trap" dunya with game mechanics, and claiming to have asked Jay about the super secret mafia role. Just would be a lot of acting for him to be bad. Not saying it isn't possible, but I don't see it as very likely.

I removed speed from suspect pool after reviewing his posts but yeah, i didn't think of that "i asked the host about xx". it does strengthen the speed townread. i'm glad you pointed it out, as well.

You guys sure about this MacDougal vote? I mean speed or dunya are still viable options.

how is speed or dunya better choices than MacDougall?

if mac flips good, i'll remember this post.

Because of this post right here.

i dont understand. someone coming in at the eleventh hour after voting for mac herself and saying "hey guys, r we sure it's mac cos it could be speed or dunya" and yet keeping her vote on mac and not presenting opposing arguments is a bad look and i'd like to know where your head was at there.

actually, even though i'm sold on it being dizzy i'd still to know where your head was at with that.

So if you're bad, then you knew Mac was town before we lynched him. So a statement like this looks like you're setting me up for the next mis-lynch. At least that's how it looks to me.

[Lunalee]

oh, sorry, should have read your post closer. I actually had stuff going on and couldn't be around at EOD. I just posted that because I wasn't fully sold on the Mac lynch, but since everyone else was, I didn't think it too likely I could convince anyone on a different lynch. Also I didn't have time to post an argument on anyone else. So yeah. I guess it was a useless post, but I made it anyways.

[dunya]

What's dumb is that I didn't really read Mac's posts well, and I'm sorry about that.

I don't believe this. at all. like not even 1% believable to me.

What I don't like about Mac is that he has jumped around in a way that just looks I don't even know, not natural or something. Also I could totally see Quin being lynched by his teammate being absent. I know Mac can't answer to that, but it was one of my first thoughts after Quin flipped as well.

Poor Dizzy. When he comes and reads this mess of a page I can imagine the disappointment and probably the conclusive dunya vote. It's ok guys I'm the scummiest person to ever play mafia. Gotta keep rolling scum if I wanna win easy.

I'm leaning Mac btw. Not that it seems to matter. I'm taking in Spacey's read on you, and she seemed quite sure, and I know she's town. Plus I did get another feel when I read the Ancient Greece game, and I probably shouldn't forget that.

those are both my 2 largest arguments for a mac lynch today. also, how he was trying to pocket me in his backside pocket.

Yeah, I could see the moving around as "who wants to lynch this person? No? This person? Aha, but this person!" if that makes sense

I can't really see it being anyone else than Mac so that's where I'm voting.

I still think it's Mac. I don't really see who else it can be at this point.

right before the role reveal:

Any last questions?

If you flip town I just don't know where to go and have to start all over I think.

feels like tmi and a way to start throwing suspicion in my way or speeds, after giving both of us town cred, because they would have to "start over"


all these posts does not seem like someone who wasn't informed on mac the way dizzy tried to downplay it post flip.

[dunya]

You guys sure about this MacDougal vote? I mean speed or dunya are still viable options.

how is speed or dunya better choices than MacDougall?

if mac flips good, i'll remember this post.

Because of this post right here.

i dont understand. someone coming in at the eleventh hour after voting for mac herself and saying "hey guys, r we sure it's mac cos it could be speed or dunya" and yet keeping her vote on mac and not presenting opposing arguments is a bad look and i'd like to know where your head was at there.

actually, even though i'm sold on it being dizzy i'd still to know where your head was at with that.

So if you're bad, then you knew Mac was town before we lynched him. So a statement like this looks like you're setting me up for the next mis-lynch. At least that's how it looks to me.
[/quote]

i'm very very confused.

you're the one who asked us if we were sure about the MacDougall vote and indicated both speed and I were still viable options. If you were mad, then you knew Mac was town before we lynched him. So a statement like this looks like you're setting up either speed or me for the next mis-lynch.

see what i did there?

[speedchuck]

I'll give Dizzy another look, for sure. I don't have much time during this night, but I will during the day. And who knows, maybe the choice will be easier thanks to the nightkill.

Spacedaisy should definitely self-target. 100%.

There is a post I made about Dizzy a while back. I'll grab it really quickly while I have the time.

[dunya]

oh, sorry, should have read your post closer. I actually had stuff going on and couldn't be around at EOD. I just posted that because I wasn't fully sold on the Mac lynch, but since everyone else was, I didn't think it too likely I could convince anyone on a different lynch. Also I didn't have time to post an argument on anyone else. So yeah. I guess it was a useless post, but I made it anyways.

considering you just town-credded speed, am i to assume the person you were trying to convince everyone else to lynch instead of mac is me? can you tell me why?

[Lunalee]

lol dunya. We're pointing fingers at eachother for doing the same thing:

Anyway plan who you are lynching tomorrow because you're in for a rude shock when I flip civ.

i think i'll look into luna if that happens. i dont see it happening, but i now have the least reason to trust luna after you.

I think if Mac is town, then Dunya is probably bad. Thoughts?

You guys sure about this MacDougal vote? I mean speed or dunya are still viable options.

how is speed or dunya better choices than MacDougall?

if mac flips good, i'll remember this post.

[speedchuck]

My earlier Dizzy ISO skim.

THE *SOMETHINGS* OF DIZZY

Thread needs more Space and Quin btw

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii voteddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd lunalee

Whyyyyyyyyy

I'm just reviewing the thread but if you guys want to ask me questions that would be way more fun.

linki: Dunya was scum in Greece. That is an interesting observation. I'd love to follow up on it, but first, what do you make of it?

Yeah, I know she was scum there. It didn't make me think dunya was scum any more, which I kind of wanted it to : p I'd like to read more games though if I have the time.

Town

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Town

I don't know who I want to vote for. Either I'll just leave my vote on Quin because he hasn't done much, which is not a great reason. Meow. Normally I'd be tempted to sheep a town read, but I don't even know if I have a town read. Maybe Speed, but I think most of all he just tends to make sense to me.

wow so i woke up late

jfc

I never fell asleep >_>

Also, hi! You about to die : p

Quin, if you’re town, I’d like to know

Linki <dayend> omg!!!!

K, if both Spacey and Luna think it's TH it might just be him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t think I’m ever voting Luna or Spacey here, unless they have a specific history of random bussing.

what is "random bussing" and how does it differ from the regular bussing?

Random cause there was no need to bus Quin when there were other close wagons and it's not like he had done anything particularly scummy afaic. The vote was more of a lucky crap shoot for me at least. If you're going to nitpick the words I use I'm going to get very annoyed at a point, but annoyment is a necessary ingredient in a mafia game, so do whatever you feel. Point here being that if Luna or Spacey have a history of bussing like that then I would very much like to know. I don't know those two players all that well.

I think it’s dunya.

i wont ask about daisy or luna, but why aren't mac or speedchuck in your poe?

you're fishy.

Are you even reading my posts? That is my PoE. Speed less so. But there's only one scum and I think it's you.

Town



The smilies above are the closest thing I can find to scum indicative posts. Maybe @dunya should do the SINS OF DIZZY post, since she has a scumread there. I'm sitting on the dizzytown button right now

Technically, the posts I marked as do look bad in places. A good starting point for a dizzy review?

[speedchuck]

Welp, Luna and Dunya are both scum. That wraps it up.

[dunya]

lol dunya. We're pointing fingers at eachother for doing the same thing:

Anyway plan who you are lynching tomorrow because you're in for a rude shock when I flip civ.

i think i'll look into luna if that happens. i dont see it happening, but i now have the least reason to trust luna after you.

I think if Mac is town, then Dunya is probably bad. Thoughts?

You guys sure about this MacDougal vote? I mean speed or dunya are still viable options.

how is speed or dunya better choices than MacDougall?

if mac flips good, i'll remember this post.

let's not waste time on this angle then because clearly a townie can do it

tell me why you don't suspect dizzy APART from the fact they voted for Quin. give me 1 other reason.

[Lunalee]

oh, sorry, should have read your post closer. I actually had stuff going on and couldn't be around at EOD. I just posted that because I wasn't fully sold on the Mac lynch, but since everyone else was, I didn't think it too likely I could convince anyone on a different lynch. Also I didn't have time to post an argument on anyone else. So yeah. I guess it was a useless post, but I made it anyways.

considering you just town-credded speed, am i to assume the person you were trying to convince everyone else to lynch instead of mac is me? can you tell me why?

I don't trust either of you. But yeah, I think you're more likely to be bad than speedchuck now. And if you're scum, you're doing a great job leading town, which is scary. I don't want to mis-lynch Dizzy if you're bad.

[dunya]

oh, sorry, should have read your post closer. I actually had stuff going on and couldn't be around at EOD. I just posted that because I wasn't fully sold on the Mac lynch, but since everyone else was, I didn't think it too likely I could convince anyone on a different lynch. Also I didn't have time to post an argument on anyone else. So yeah. I guess it was a useless post, but I made it anyways.

considering you just town-credded speed, am i to assume the person you were trying to convince everyone else to lynch instead of mac is me? can you tell me why?

I don't trust either of you. But yeah, I think you're more likely to be bad than speedchuck now. And if you're scum, you're doing a great job leading town, which is scary. I don't want to mis-lynch Dizzy if you're bad.

i know it's a lot of posts, but i do wish you'd re-read me and see how you feel after doing that.

i appreciate you think speed is townier than me, considering you're his wife and can probably read his intentions better than you can read mine ( ), but i really am curious why you're giving dizzy town cred beyond the Quin vote.

[dunya]

just put in a vacuum everything i have contributed, look at my effort and intentions and where my head has been (literally accusing every single person on here at one point or another except for daisy) and then look at dizzy's ISO and tell me who seems more genuine in game-solving and actually hunting for scum rather than defending themselves. i may not have voted for Quin d1, but I did vote for Dizzy d1 and i'm pretty sure they are the second scum.

[dunya]

also while reading, try and see how often my reads have changed in comparison to dizzy who has always had 1-2 scumspects only. dizzy gave you and sabie town cred off the bat without you doing anything (before the quin flip), which is literally called buddying. they even gave th a slight town read on day 1 because they didn't see anything wrong with her posts. i gave people town cred for genuine reasons. dizzy had "raisins". i mean if people can't town read me based on my play this game, i gotta seriously consider a new hobby.

[dunya]

i might genuinely go crazy if i'm mislynched in this game, so for the love of everything you hold dear to you, NK me tonight so the rest of town can decide for themselves and leave me out of it.

[dunya]

I'll give Dizzy another look, for sure. I don't have much time during this night, but I will during the day. And who knows, maybe the choice will be easier thanks to the nightkill.

Spacedaisy should definitely self-target. 100%.

There is a post I made about Dizzy a while back. I'll grab it really quickly while I have the time.

fyi [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]. again, not my place to say anything, but please consider self targeting tonight rather than trying to save anyone so town has 1 confirmed townie in LyLo tomorrow. it's really important if we want a chance to win this. you play howveer you see it necessary though cos you know your role better than we do.

[speedchuck]

I'll give Dizzy another look, for sure. I don't have much time during this night, but I will during the day. And who knows, maybe the choice will be easier thanks to the nightkill.

Spacedaisy should definitely self-target. 100%.

There is a post I made about Dizzy a while back. I'll grab it really quickly while I have the time.

fyi Spacedaisy. again, not my place to say anything, but please consider self targeting tonight rather than trying to save anyone so town has 1 confirmed townie in LyLo tomorrow. it's really important if we want a chance to win this. you play howveer you see it necessary though cos you know your role better than we do.

If she DOES protect herself it will be MYLO tomorrow, not LYLO. This is ideal because it means that she can try to WIFOM the mafia after the MYLO lynch, and possibly buy yet another day by protecting someone else or herself.
She could do that tonight, but the chances of success are better in LYLO, and plus we get a confirmed town in MYLO. Win-Win.

[Dyslexicon]

Yeah sorry, can't see a way around voting Dizzy tomorrow. I will reread their ISO but I can't see a world where this is scum Luna. It's Dizzy.

Ok. I just hope Spacey gets us another mislynch, cause if I'm going to be the last mislynch here it will be the worst possible ending before I break again. But sure. It could be poetic and stuff.

[Lunalee]

[mention]dunya[/mention] Good points you brought up with dizzy having few suspects and handing out town cred. I'll go back and look closer at both or your ISOs. Unfortunately I'm about to be gone all day, and I'd rather do that on my laptop, so I'll be on later to do that.

[dunya]

I'll give Dizzy another look, for sure. I don't have much time during this night, but I will during the day. And who knows, maybe the choice will be easier thanks to the nightkill.

Spacedaisy should definitely self-target. 100%.

There is a post I made about Dizzy a while back. I'll grab it really quickly while I have the time.

fyi Spacedaisy. again, not my place to say anything, but please consider self targeting tonight rather than trying to save anyone so town has 1 confirmed townie in LyLo tomorrow. it's really important if we want a chance to win this. you play howveer you see it necessary though cos you know your role better than we do.

If she DOES protect herself it will be MYLO tomorrow, not LYLO. This is ideal because it means that she can try to WIFOM the mafia after the MYLO lynch, and possibly buy yet another day by protecting someone else or herself.
She could do that tonight, but the chances of success are better in LYLO, and plus we get a confirmed town in MYLO. Win-Win.

100% this [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]

yay speed! TOWNWORK!

[Dyslexicon]

Also I find it hard to believe they could lay off me simply based on Spacedaisy's read which has never towncleard me in the first place. Not buying it. Dizzy saw I had cooled off them so they reciprocated. It's typical scum behaviour in my experience.

Ew. Not even what I said.

[dunya]

speed, beyond Luna being the second vote on Quin and bringing him into a three-way tie with myself and Dizzy, why do you town read her? I have reasons, but I'd like to see how strong other people's reads are.

[dunya]

Also I find it hard to believe they could lay off me simply based on Spacedaisy's read which has never towncleard me in the first place. Not buying it. Dizzy saw I had cooled off them so they reciprocated. It's typical scum behaviour in my experience.

Ew. Not even what I said.

really? cos you literally used it as your first reason.

I'm leaning Mac btw. Not that it seems to matter. I'm taking in Spacey's read on you, and she seemed quite sure, and I know she's town. Plus I did get another feel when I read the Ancient Greece game, and I probably shouldn't forget that.

[Dyslexicon]

What's dumb is that I didn't really read Mac's posts well, and I'm sorry about that.

I don't believe this. at all. like not even 1% believable to me.

feels like tmi and a way to start throwing suspicion in my way or speeds, after giving both of us town cred, because they would have to "start over"

all these posts does not seem like someone who wasn't informed on mac the way dizzy tried to downplay it post flip.

You can believe what you want. I'm so over reading your posts about me and I think I should just stop. Also I WAS feeling good about the Mac flip, but then he stopped by right before the lynch, and it didn't look like it was scum trying last minute save themselves because it was too late. That's why I stopped feeling good about it. Is that not clear?

[speedchuck]

If dunya, Dizzy, Luna, and I are all suspects, mayhap we'll finally have a nightkill that narrows things down.

Anyway, off to thanksgiving #2: In-law edition.

linki: At the moment, I have really been depending on that second vote thing for my Luna read. I may have townread her earlier for other reasons, but I don't remember them. That's why I need to review.

(This linki is like 3 posts old now sheesh guys)

[Dyslexicon]

Also I find it hard to believe they could lay off me simply based on Spacedaisy's read which has never towncleard me in the first place. Not buying it. Dizzy saw I had cooled off them so they reciprocated. It's typical scum behaviour in my experience.

Ew. Not even what I said.

really? cos you literally used it as your first reason.

I'm leaning Mac btw. Not that it seems to matter. I'm taking in Spacey's read on you, and she seemed quite sure, and I know she's town. Plus I did get another feel when I read the Ancient Greece game, and I probably shouldn't forget that.

My god. My thoughts on you entails WAY MORE than what Spacey said. And you know that 100%.

[Dyslexicon]

Whatever. I'm just going to reread the whole game and decide who I want to vote for. You all can do what you want.

[dunya]

@dunya Good points you brought up with dizzy having few suspects and handing out town cred. I'll go back and look closer at both or your ISOs. Unfortunately I'm about to be gone all day, and I'd rather do that on my laptop, so I'll be on later to do that.

i'm about to head off too, i'll try to pop back in before end of night if i come back at an appropriate time and have the ability. but i look forward to reading your reads on both of us whether or not i survive the night and if you're the last scum, i tip my hat to you.

[dunya]

My god. My thoughts on you entails WAY MORE than what Spacey said. And you know that 100%.

no. i don't.

i'm kinda over you being over me tho.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm ignoring dunya's posts now. I can't.

[dunya]

Whatever. I'm just going to reread the whole game and decide who I want to vote for. You all can do what you want.

oki, don't forget to send in the nk first tho

(i really hope you don't take any of this personally, dizzy. this is the flow of the game. )

[dunya]

and this kinda reaction over being suspected is also why i need a very long mafia break before i think of playing again. sigh.