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[Dyslexicon]

oh poop, im seeing town speed there. so now i have sabie and speed locked town. feeling daisy is town too. 4/9 town on day 0 isn't a bad deal.

This is page 1. So now dunya calls me out for TMI and giving town reads whithout reasons (which is a flat out lie btw). Cool. Great. Great. Cool.

[Dyslexicon]

Whatever. I'm just going to reread the whole game and decide who I want to vote for. You all can do what you want.

oki, don't forget to send in the nk first tho

(i really hope you don't take any of this personally, dizzy. this is the flow of the game. )

I don't take things personally. But I am angry. But I can handle that. Either you're scum and that's all fine. Or you're town and at least I can be spiteful enough to enjoy flipping town on you.

[Dyslexicon]

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii voteddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd lunalee

I had forgotten about this. Does anyone know what the votecount was at this point?

[Dyslexicon]

I’m not feeling a Luna vote any longer. Despite the early sketchy feeling I think the rest of her posts read with atown vibe to me.

This is right after Quin voted Luna. Looks like Spacey was on Luna. So if Luna is teamed with Quin it looks like it must've been overt, planned cross bussing.

Spacey, knowing these two players, is that at all likely?

[Dyslexicon]

I felt primarily good after my exchange with Quin on No Lynch yesterday. But that's not enough to town confirm the entire game.

current rainbow, would be willing to lynch between dizzy and quin, i think. not sure i have enough of a grasp on Luna but she and sabie are almost on the same level at this point. not very impressed with sabie's contributions as they seem a little "tight lipped" and i am always wary of that. nova is n/a. i'll get to dizzy later before eod, when i have time.

dunya
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
speedchuck
sabie12
novaselinenever - na
Lunalee
Quin
Dyslexicon

What changed between these two posts? There's like 5 or 6 posts between. Quin posted one word.

[Dyslexicon]

Speed, can you please talk me through your dunya vote D1? From what I can see you said you went from dunya 85% scum to 25% scum. And then you talk about Quin being suspicious for some length. What was the reason you ended up voting dunya after all?

You were around after Spacey talked about how she didn't like the Quin lynch.

You were around again right after day had ended saying you had a busy afternoon.

This doesn't look great to me.

[Dyslexicon]

wow so i woke up late

jfc

I never fell asleep >_>

Also, hi! You about to die : p

Honestly I should be 100% clear from this post. This is not what I say to a scum buddy if I have just voted to lynch them. Seriously. You can believe what you want, but that is just something I would not do if I was teamed with Quin. Period.

[Dyslexicon]

Looks like no counter claims unless mac gets here and goes for it. It is what it is. One more person out of the scum pool. I'm cool with that.

This is weird. Why would sabie ever fake claim a role if the true role was alive and well. It's a guaranteed loss. o.o

[Dyslexicon]

That no lynch thing tho

[Dyslexicon]

If it's not TH, I'd look at Mac and then Dizzy who I recall voted Quin then left and returned to find Quin was lynched? Would have to check timestamps but if Dizzy voted for Quin before real danger on Quin then went to bed then they are not towncleard the same way as Luna or daisy were.

So first you wonder if I voted Quin and went to bed. (Not the case).

So yea gonna say TH, Dizzy then Mac. Poe of 3.

I reread dizzy and didn't like the progression of their reads. Mac offered nothing. TH has been all over the place which is unlike his stubborn civ self.

Feel good with that.

Then you reread me. And didn't like whatever, surprise.

I'm working on Dizzy now. Luna was the second vote, but she was also here EOD I believe. I have to review the EOD phase a little better. Dizzy's vote on Quin wasn't very inspiring and they said they would leave it on Quin --- but when they said that, had Luna already voted Quin or was Dizzy still the lone voter?

Then you are STILL wondering if when I said I'd leave it on Quin, had Luna voted. That's some pretty bad investigation if you have reread me and was specifically wondering about that before. It's not a very hard thing to check.

In addition you don't even mention this in your huge ISO of me. You're more busy with asking me why I voted Turnip as a complete RVS vote and stuff. Not the stuff that you say you were going to check for.

This is some hot bullshit.

[Dyslexicon]

I would feel super pissed losing to a scum dunya.

[Dyslexicon]

(Not that she hasn't done well if she's scum.)

[Dyslexicon]

Blah. I'll stop here and come back to the rest later.

If people have questions for me, please ask.

[dunya]

if luna is scum, she's gonna kill speed imo.

[dunya]

as a rule, i will never play another game with such a ridiculous eod time for me. i think eod is pretty important, and the hours that lead up to it, and 4am isn't reasonable for me to be around and as such, my judgment will suffer.

[dunya]

quin has a history of bussing. i was on his team in FE and all we did is bus each other. i hosted a burglary later on and he and nutella were bad together and they bussed each other. i have no problem believing quin and luna went into this bussing each other, but i find it hard to believe luna would allow her d1 distance/bus actually lead to his lynch, but it's not impossible since luna has been very disengaged from this game and maybe she just didn't come back at a time to change her vote and save him.

[dunya]

I wrote out a big long post of my thoughts and it signed me out. I'm having trouble with trying to do this on my phone sorry. My thoughts so far...

Still dont exactly see how a no lynch benefits us with it being such a small game doesnt that just give the baddies a potential chance to kill off one of us?

Luna is somewhat suspicious due to the comment about enjoying being scum roles and voting with lack of explanation initially. I believe it was speedchuck who said something about the cop should reveal their info which could potentially be for the towns sake but at the same time could be so the baddies know who it is and who to go after.

Also not sure where the accusation of me being mafia comes from as it didnt seem as though dyslexicon had participated much in the conversation previously.

Idk that's kinda my thoughts thus far.

Do you really think I would flippantly say "yah, I love being scum" in thread if I were actually scum? Sounds dangerous to me and I wouldn't do it.

don't know why, but when i read this the first time and every time i reread it when going over luna's iso it reads as really fake to me. that last sentence, not the first. "sounds dangerous to me" just doesn't sound believable to my ears coming from a townie. and i would absolutely do it if i were scum, just to say the first sentence luna said.

[dunya]

How important, Dunya? Quantify it. And yes, I'm getting to something here.

The cop doesn't just strike lucky by hitting a scum, but he or she strikes lucky every night by town confirming people and avoiding them from getting mislynched the next day in a game where we only have a couple of mislynches before LyLo.

What about the scum power role?

The Chinese/Russian/Lunar Alien with space plasma nukes? We don't even know what this special role does. But from the "space plasma nukes" part I would assume it lets them take extra kill(s).

if speed and i were in the race of tmi from all of this, how about luna coming in acting like she does't know and trying to "guess" based on wording? she would have known a godfather doesn't exist, unlike speed and i. and who would think in a 9-player heist the host would actually give the scum team extra kills in addition to their night kill? overpowered. and a town vig existing doesn't balance that power since a vig is 6/2 more likely to hit town than scum. that ain't balanced.

[dunya]

Also I think Speed v Dunya is Town v Town. Dunya mentioned the godfather role on instinct, because it's a pretty common role in mafia. But I think she's wrong because it sounds to me like scum would have an extra shot ability instead of godfather ability.

buddying? in this post, luna reads both speed and i as town v town and still tries to push the narrative of scum having an extra kill (which where numbers and type of mafia game are concerned would seem highly unlikely).

I don't think dunya's a good lynch option, and I'm okay with staying on TH since he thinks it's a good idea to lynch a very town-like dunya on day 1.

she later comes in and starts to defend me from TH wanting to lynch me (but doesnt mention speed's push on me too, because he was the main instigator) calling me "very town like"

very town like in italics.

bear with me here while i try to see where she transitioned from townreading me to scumreading me.

the reason she was voting for TH here is extremely weak also considering speed was my biggest opposition on d1, not TH. not really digging it, not feeling it at all.

I don't think dunya's a good lynch option, and I'm okay with staying on TH since he thinks it's a good idea to lynch a very town-like dunya on day 1.

I'm little confused. What made you give me a very town-like read?

Your responses to suspicion seem very passionate. I don't think you would have that tone if you were scum. But I could be wrong.

I appreciate that, but you indicated I'm "very town-like dunya" after asking around for a better grasp on town/scum dunya and not getting a response. so what does "very scum-like dunya" look like?

You know, I don't really know what scumya looks like. But I can generally decide if someone looks like they are playing a town game or not. I mean, if I'm wrong, do tell.

i think instead of notice the weak reasoning behind a TH vote, i was more concerned with why she was suddenly giving me a strong town read without any pretext. apparently, she thought i was passionate and was playing a town game. so i still haven't seen where she transitioned from that strong town read to scum read.

@Quin hasn't said much. What are your thoughts Quin? Why do you want to lynch me today? And what do you think of speed and TH voting dunya?

here's the prod on Quin. it came at 8.01. at 8.25, before quin can even reply, she votes for quin.

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

... so she forgot about TH. why? where did her TH suspicions go? what were her TH suspicions?

she does vote for quin when dizzy had already voted for Quin, and speed and TH had voted for me, and me and sabie had voted for Dizzy, and Quin had voted for her. The only person who hadn't voted yet was Spacedaisy. with the thread environment, it seemed way more likely that either me or dizzy would get lynched over quin. Quin was literally a "eh I'll leave my vote on Quin" vote by dizzy and similarly, a "I can't see anyone ebetter to lynch" option by Luna at 8.25pm swedish time. 5hrs 45mins till end of day remained, by the way.

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

Is this mostly because quin hasn't posted much or partially because they voted for you? (I don't know everyone's pronouns so trying not to mess that up) looking back I really dont see a lot of contribution to the discussion from quin unless I missed something.

both, yeah. I don't want to "no u" vote anyone, but I feel better about voting Quin right now than anyone else.

sabie did ask her why quin, and that was her response. again, what happened to her suspicion on TH?? why didn't she suspect Daisy? what had Daisy done at that point that was significantly more than Quin? Daisy's day 1 detective work and push came after Luna had left the thread. why didn't she suspect sabie? she didn't give us a reason why she was town reading them, we just have to assume she town read everyone except quin and that doesn't feel very genuine.

her last post that day phase was about 10pm swedish time, which was a little over 4 hours before end of day. she returned about 50mins after end of day to "celebrate" Quin's lynch.

we have to assume that quin and luna used a d1 bussing strategy, luna didn't realize how long she'd be gone for and came back to see quin lynched. it's a large leap of faith, but it is what it is. it happened to me very recently and i won a game because of it. on jack's forum, in the pokemon game, i decided to vote for a teammate with weak d1 reasoning and left the thread because eod was at another ridiculous time only to return the next day to see others had followed suit and i lynched my teammate and a strong role to boot. i rode that mishap till end game and won. i can't say that "mistakes" like these don't happen: literally happened to me a few months ago.

another point that is in dizzy's favor is the sabie kill. if i were to be hypocritical, i wouldn't give them any benefit for having not been here during the night after which she claimed. i wasn't here for the claim and used it as a defense which speed took into account. Luna was present in the thread, however and could have absolutely killed sabie.

TH currently looks like the easy next lynch option. But I don't think it's that easy. I would look very closely at anyone pushing for a TH lynch.

reads like TMI. she left her vote on the "funny" no-lynch we pushed for 20 mins and can't really analyze her vote there.

i have to stop cos i have a headache. but at no point have i seen her accuse anyone except sabie in this game, which forced sabie into claiming. she has asked a ton of open ended questions that she doesn't follow up on like "what does scum dunya look like" "if mac is good, dunya is bad, thoughts?"

her progression on why she suddenly lists me as bad with speed but speed looks better than me when just yesterday she was agreeing with mac that the Quin post listing speed as the least suspicous out of us three was "a bad look for speed" saw no resolution either! her bad read on me today has no progress, no beginning, no middle, nothing. she went from pretty much town confirming me to "out you and speed, speed is less likely bad".

this isn't accounting for other inconsistencies i've pointed out throughout the game but ignored because "luna always looks scummy".


i know i'm waffling majorly between dizzy and luna, but i'm pretty sold on it being luna now. dizzy came back after luna had voted quin, which no longer makes them the "first" vote on quin that accidentally took off. indeed, they could have removed their vote and moved it to me since they had their suspicions about me so it wouldn't have looked as suspicious as luna doing it who already had a town read on me.

conclusion: i believe it's luna.

[dunya]

anyway don't worry guys, as long as spacedaisy self protects tonight, she's gonna kill speed tonight i'm pretty sure that's why she gave him a random town read cred after trying to shade him yesterday.

[dunya]

if i'm wrong about luna, and it's dizzy, i won't even be mad. well played dizzy. both you and luna played well, but i think at this point seeing the effort of 2 people: luna put in the least amount whereas dizzy has been breaking a sweat so i would like to believe they are town and luna is sidelining it all game and riding out her quin lynch credit. that ain't cool.

[dunya]

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598619

that's the game where i accidentally lynch my mafia scum mate and ride out town credit till end game ftr. reminiscent of this game.

[dunya]

alright, i'm leaving. see ya'll whenever i see ya. good luck town in the off chance i die tonight.

[Lunalee]

I sort of hope I die tonight, because if I don't dunya I will probably end up lynched tomorrow based off Dunya's analyses of my posts, and right now I don't feel like putting forth the energy to try to stop it.

[Lunalee]

I sort of hope I die tonight, because if I don't, dunya I will probably end up lynched tomorrow based off Dunya's analyses of my posts, and right now I don't feel like putting forth the energy to try to stop it.

oops, fixed that.

[dunya]

Luna doesn't have the energy

Dizzy wants to outright ignore me

Okay guys thanks for the game. Such a wonderful game.

[Lunalee]

I'm not giving up dunya. Just don't feel too well tonight, and don't feel like doing much on here. I'll be back with a vengance tomorrow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

She always belonged in space...

Spacedaisy was one of the most decorated and celebrated enlistees of the young United States Space Force. Already in this short conflict she had shown incredible courage in the face of extreme peril, and it did not go unnoticed by her immediate chain of command. She was coined by both her squadron and group commanders, and her chief wrote her a package to receive a coveted new Spaceman's Medal. The actual medal did leave something to be desired with its craft, as it was a near-complete lift of the Air Force version, and it seemed as though the etchings were performed by amateurs. Nonetheless, such recognition earned her the respect and admiration of her peers. Unfortunately, she didn't immediately receive the medal, and her superiors couldn't have known that it would end up a posthumous honor. She was killed in action. We can only hope that she will find peace having died in the very same outer space for which she was named.

Spoiler: show

Spacedaisy was killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

Mars Space Force Base Alpha death ray laser beam operator.

Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may elect to take a ship out to your post on Mars. Any actions targeting you that night will fail. Additionally, given your adeptness in the operation of the aforementioned death ray laser beam, for any player who did attempt to target you that night, there is a 50% chance that his or her vote will not count during the following day phase.

Day 4 is underway. You have 48 hours to vote in the poll.

[Lunalee]

Nooo, not Daisy!

[Spacedaisy]

Best death post I’ve ever had written for me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Original Space Force action theme

[speedchuck]

Engh. Alright. I will do my best this day, for it will be our last.

... unless you guys want to no lynch, since this is the only time it'd be the correct course of action.

[dunya]

Well fuck. Fuckety fuck fuck.

[dunya]

It's between dizzy and Luna for me. Let's not waste a day phase without narrowing it down.

Everyone list their 2 person poe.

[dunya]

Ok I'm gonna rule Dizzy out. Dizzy wasn't here during the night sabie was killed when she claimed. It's between Luna and speed again. I'll reread the thread and come back with more.

So my PoE
1. Speed
2. Luna

[dunya]

BOTH Luna and Dizzy had a chance to move their votes off Quin without looking suspicious. Either of them could have latched onto my lynch or Dizzy's and they didn't. Dizzy had criticized me enough that their Quin vote even looked suspicious after the flip so there's no room for them to be bad there. dizzy was not around when sabie role revealed, like me, and no one in their right mind would have targeted sabie before the flip what with all the suspicion revolving around her that night phase. Luna was the second Quin vote, and she could have easily followed sheep on either of the other two bandwagons (and I reviewed U-Pick, Luna doesn't vote off bandwagon there nor does she unnecessarily bus on Day 1). she's also been pretty spontaneous or even clumsy when typing, a lot of inconsistencies, apparent "not keeping up with the thread", and a general apathy that i don't see in scum luna. she's someone who was recently mislynched in hogwarts after putting a crapton of effort who looks worn out of the game and has a vanilla townie role and doesn't really have the power to defend herself that well.

That leaves speed. speed was throwing some shade Quin's way, and convincing himself I was more like my townie self than not, yet he didn't budge off me. speed was here during the sabie role reveal and could have easily sent the kill.

i don't care that he self voted. Mac was right, the motive of this game is to manipulate us and speed's played enough games with me to know actions like these DO affect me whether i like it or not. i've talked a shit ton about how much i hate these strategies in past games where they were used (as civilians or scum). was he upset and angry? yes, probably. but again, Mac was right. scum that is almost caught can be frustrated and angry especially if he doesn't think i have something substantial on him. his reaction doesn't have to be fake, it's real. it's genuine.

I'm convinced it's speed, and while i can still make a case for luna or dizzy, they are both harder to believe for me than speed. speed was the first person to ask the cop to claim. speed has been playing this entire game trying to convince himself to lynch me itt despite appearing to have a change of heart, he doesn't go ahead with that. as soon as mac proposed i could be bad, speed jumps on the opportunity again. if you review his iso, see how much of his time was spent trying to prove to everyone that i am scum. who has he focused on as much as me? give me 1 more name. just 1.

luna/dizzy: please reread speed. convince me all his motives have been town-influenced. tell me why. i won't lie, i am definitely suspicious and biased because i haven't been able to unsee it and the only reason i did was because of an incident i took to heart too much. mac said speed was his biggest scum read. i'm not going to completely ignore that.

we should still no lynch today so we have more time to ensure we are all properly convinced and worn out of any other possibilities. but that's what i'm feeling at this point.

[dunya]

Speed, can you please talk me through your dunya vote D1? From what I can see you said you went from dunya 85% scum to 25% scum. And then you talk about Quin being suspicious for some length. What was the reason you ended up voting dunya after all?

You were around after Spacey talked about how she didn't like the Quin lynch.

You were around again right after day had ended saying you had a busy afternoon.

i'd also like to know the answer to this. speed didn't respond yet. i think i've talked about that a few times and still not gotten a reply, just an overreaction when i suspected him.

all that i have read from him is that he had reasons to townread me and reasons to scumread me. but those numbers are alarming and his tone was that of someone who wasn't convinced. you said you weren't convinced fully i was scum either and so you voted for quin who hadn't contributed much so you would have felt less bad if he was town than if i had been mislynched. i believe that reason. it makes sense and is something i could see myself applying when choosing between 2 lynches. i can't believe speedchuck after being so wishy washy would keep his foot down on my d1 lynch, someone who is known to be a good town asset. it just doesn't add up with what i know about speed and his tone towards me in the thread.

[dunya]

I felt primarily good after my exchange with Quin on No Lynch yesterday. But that's not enough to town confirm the entire game.

current rainbow, would be willing to lynch between dizzy and quin, i think. not sure i have enough of a grasp on Luna but she and sabie are almost on the same level at this point. not very impressed with sabie's contributions as they seem a little "tight lipped" and i am always wary of that. nova is n/a. i'll get to dizzy later before eod, when i have time.

dunya
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
speedchuck
sabie12
novaselinenever - na
Lunalee
Quin
Dyslexicon

What changed between these two posts? There's like 5 or 6 posts between. Quin posted one word.

"I felt primarily good"

"that's not enough to town confirm the entire game"

I was happy he was responsive and contributing to the extent of me looking towards others who hadn't, but not enough to give him a free town-cred ride all the game through. he was thus in my poe.

[Lunalee]

Since I suspect literally everyone right now, I'm voting no lynch.

[Dyslexicon]

I could do a no lynch. I don't have much time tonight or tomorrow either. And if I'm lucky I get killed and then it's all your problem (no regrets)

I read dunya's case on Luna and that the idea of an overt bussing/cross vote could be a thing they would go for. But what doesn't really make sense to me is the way that Luna voted if that is the case. Cause it was so ok, I guess I'll vote Quin, and if it was bussing they had agreed to do, then I think it would make more sense to be a bit more forceful with it? At the same time I guess optimal outcome would be to not really have either of them lynched though. I don't know, it just seems like a weird way to vote if it's a planned bus. Does this make sense?

I'm going to reread Luna myself. I didn't pay enough attention to her when I started reading from the beginning yesterday. Rereading dunya's posts D1 they still irked me a lot and I like about none of them. That's probably actually not true, but a lot of them I don't like. Also how she avoided talking about me being around after Luna voted in her iso thing of me, when she asked about it twice AND said she reread my posts between asking twice. Really don't like that.

I will also have to reread Speed and Mac, especially. I really want Speed to recap D1 as has been pointed out.

I guess right now I'd say I don't think it's Luna (?) And I can't make my mind up between dunya and Speed. Dunya has more stuff that makes me think she's scum, but also stuff that reads town. A lot of analysis and also emotion. I just can't shake the feeling that she would be able to do that as scum as well. I've seen the most impressive scum play I've seen in mafia from players on this site. (MP burned me two times >_>) I don't know if this is "fair" even, but I can't not consider this. I feel like I have stuff to say about this after this game is over.

With Speed I just really question the dunya vote on D1. It was glaring when I read it again.

[Dyslexicon]

Since I suspect literally everyone right now, I'm voting no lynch.

Do you have anything to say about dunya's post on you?

[speedchuck]

I've been out of town all day.

Promise I will catch up. If I agree with Dunya and we remove Dizzy from the POE, then there's not much reason to wait a day and no lynch, is there?

[speedchuck]

I'll address anythings that are supposed to be addressed tomorrow.

[Lunalee]

Since I suspect literally everyone right now, I'm voting no lynch.

Do you have anything to say about dunya's post on you?

I can go back and answer what I can about it.

[Lunalee]

So here it is, my defense.

Also I think Speed v Dunya is Town v Town. Dunya mentioned the godfather role on instinct, because it's a pretty common role in mafia. But I think she's wrong because it sounds to me like scum would have an extra shot ability instead of godfather ability.

buddying? in this post, luna reads both speed and i as town v town and still tries to push the narrative of scum having an extra kill (which where numbers and type of mafia game are concerned would seem highly unlikely).

I don't think dunya's a good lynch option, and I'm okay with staying on TH since he thinks it's a good idea to lynch a very town-like dunya on day 1.

she later comes in and starts to defend me from TH wanting to lynch me (but doesnt mention speed's push on me too, because he was the main instigator) calling me "very town like"

very town like in italics.

bear with me here while i try to see where she transitioned from townreading me to scumreading me.

the reason she was voting for TH here is extremely weak also considering speed was my biggest opposition on d1, not TH. not really digging it, not feeling it at all.

I voted TH not expecting to keep my vote on TH. It was sort of what you'd call a "place holder" vote. I wanted to put it somewhere, and TH was talking about no-lynches, or lynching dunya, so I thought why not. but I knew I'd analyze the game closer later.

I don't think dunya's a good lynch option, and I'm okay with staying on TH since he thinks it's a good idea to lynch a very town-like dunya on day 1.

I'm little confused. What made you give me a very town-like read?

Your responses to suspicion seem very passionate. I don't think you would have that tone if you were scum. But I could be wrong.

I appreciate that, but you indicated I'm "very town-like dunya" after asking around for a better grasp on town/scum dunya and not getting a response. so what does "very scum-like dunya" look like?

You know, I don't really know what scumya looks like. But I can generally decide if someone looks like they are playing a town game or not. I mean, if I'm wrong, do tell.

i think instead of notice the weak reasoning behind a TH vote, i was more concerned with why she was suddenly giving me a strong town read without any pretext. apparently, she thought i was passionate and was playing a town game. so i still haven't seen where she transitioned from that strong town read to scum read.

Yeah, that is sort of weird I gave you a town read. I thought it fit at the time, but I am constantly doubting everyone in this game, and you were no exception. Literally my flip on you was process of elimination as I continued to get a feel for everyone else, and thinking, "well what if dunya's scum?"

@Quin hasn't said much. What are your thoughts Quin? Why do you want to lynch me today? And what do you think of speed and TH voting dunya?

here's the prod on Quin. it came at 8.01. at 8.25, before quin can even reply, she votes for quin.

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

... so she forgot about TH. why? where did her TH suspicions go? what were her TH suspicions?

Because TH was a flippant vote. I saw more from them and thought, eh, not today. Maybe I should have voiced that in thread, but I didn't.

she does vote for quin when dizzy had already voted for Quin, and speed and TH had voted for me, and me and sabie had voted for Dizzy, and Quin had voted for her. The only person who hadn't voted yet was Spacedaisy. with the thread environment, it seemed way more likely that either me or dizzy would get lynched over quin. Quin was literally a "eh I'll leave my vote on Quin" vote by dizzy and similarly, a "I can't see anyone better to lynch" option by Luna at 8.25pm swedish time. 5hrs 45mins till end of day remained, by the way.

Voting Quin. I don't have the best feeling about him right now. Everyone else looks like varying levels of civ, and then there's Quin, who frankly hasn't done much to push him either way.

Is this mostly because quin hasn't posted much or partially because they voted for you? (I don't know everyone's pronouns so trying not to mess that up) looking back I really dont see a lot of contribution to the discussion from quin unless I missed something.

both, yeah. I don't want to "no u" vote anyone, but I feel better about voting Quin right now than anyone else.

sabie did ask her why quin, and that was her response. again, what happened to her suspicion on TH?? why didn't she suspect Daisy? what had Daisy done at that point that was significantly more than Quin? Daisy's day 1 detective work and push came after Luna had left the thread. why didn't she suspect sabie? she didn't give us a reason why she was town reading them, we just have to assume she town read everyone except quin and that doesn't feel very genuine.

her last post that day phase was about 10pm swedish time, which was a little over 4 hours before end of day. she returned about 50mins after end of day to "celebrate" Quin's lynch.

we have to assume that quin and luna used a d1 bussing strategy, luna didn't realize how long she'd be gone for and came back to see quin lynched. it's a large leap of faith, but it is what it is. it happened to me very recently and i won a game because of it. on jack's forum, in the pokemon game, i decided to vote for a teammate with weak d1 reasoning and left the thread because eod was at another ridiculous time only to return the next day to see others had followed suit and i lynched my teammate and a strong role to boot. i rode that mishap till end game and won. i can't say that "mistakes" like these don't happen: literally happened to me a few months ago.

Oh, I get now why you think that is possible, since it happened to you in a previous game. It is a valid line of reasoning, and I can't really say anything to change your mind here.

another point that is in dizzy's favor is the sabie kill. if i were to be hypocritical, i wouldn't give them any benefit for having not been here during the night after which she claimed. i wasn't here for the claim and used it as a defense which speed took into account. Luna was present in the thread, however and could have absolutely killed sabie.

True, I felt pretty bad that she claimed after I made a post analysing why she could be bad. Not much I can say to this either though.

TH currently looks like the easy next lynch option. But I don't think it's that easy. I would look very closely at anyone pushing for a TH lynch.

reads like TMI. she left her vote on the "funny" no-lynch we pushed for 20 mins and can't really analyze her vote there.

I mean you seriously considered it too didn't you? Or was that all a joke.

i have to stop cos i have a headache. but at no point have i seen her accuse anyone except sabie in this game, which forced sabie into claiming.

I mean I did accuse Quin, and Speedchuck, and MacDougal, and you, and Dyslexicon at different times even if I didn't quote a bunch of their posts to do so.

she has asked a ton of open ended questions that she doesn't follow up on like "what does scum dunya look like" "if mac is good, dunya is bad, thoughts?"

her progression on why she suddenly lists me as bad with speed but speed looks better than me when just yesterday she was agreeing with mac that the Quin post listing speed as the least suspicous out of us three was "a bad look for speed" saw no resolution either! her bad read on me today has no progress, no beginning, no middle, nothing. she went from pretty much town confirming me to "out you and speed, speed is less likely bad".

LOL, I feel like you're critiquing an essay I wrote for an assignment. Yes, I have jumped around a lot in this game. And I haven't documented my thoughts well. I know should have a beautifully-written ISO that flows from suspect to suspect with a reason, investigation, and conclusion for each. But it doesn't. I've just been posting my thoughts as they jump from town to bad on each person here.

this isn't accounting for other inconsistencies i've pointed out throughout the game but ignored because "luna always looks scummy".


i know i'm waffling majorly between dizzy and luna, but i'm pretty sold on it being luna now. dizzy came back after luna had voted quin, which no longer makes them the "first" vote on quin that accidentally took off. indeed, they could have removed their vote and moved it to me since they had their suspicions about me so it wouldn't have looked as suspicious as luna doing it who already had a town read on me.

That's actually a really good observation that I hadn't thought about. Thanks for bringing it up.

conclusion: i believe it's luna.

[Lunalee]

I still think a no lynch is best for today. Eliminating one more person will help us get this right.

[dunya]

I still think a no lynch is best for today. Eliminating one more person will help us get this right.

Agreed. I have reasons to scum read all of you. And I'm sure everyone has reasons to scum read me.

[dunya]

Promise I will catch up. If I agree with Dunya and we remove Dizzy from the POE, then there's not much reason to wait a day and no lynch, is there?

are you saying you've removed me from your poe? pls explain

[speedchuck]

Promise I will catch up. If I agree with Dunya and we remove Dizzy from the POE, then there's not much reason to wait a day and no lynch, is there?

are you saying you've removed me from your poe? pls explain

I'm not.

I was saying, if we all pre-emptively agree to remove Dizzy from the POE, then who will be killed tonight? Assuming we are all correct?

I guess we could wait for the kill to happen to make sure, but if you're removing Dizzy from your POE, it'll prolly condemn her to the nightkill.

[speedchuck]

Now to catch up.