Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]

[MacDougall]

You bad, Jack?

Nah. I’m like a hero n shit.

Remember when you wanted the most powerful role in Mafia history and I made it for you?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh look. Wilgy is a civilian and got lynched early.

Better than him being a civ and getting lynched late.

Mac is scum. Tranq is opposing scum. Luna and Gman are still town. Idk who killed Nutella except it was probably Quin or Kyle.

Mac is not scum you wankman.

You don’t care about lynching scum. You drop your scumreads. You’re pretending to be me. You are maphiah.

I've put much more effort into scum hunting than you buddeh. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

If you think I wouldn't care about lynching scum in a two mafia game then you aren't using you brain correctly or you're just casting baseless shade because you saw your name in red on my rainbow list. There is no "doesn't care about lynching scum in this game". Get on my level.

You were all over me D1 and left me alone D2. WTH? Doesn’t feel legit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

You bad, Jack?

Nah. I’m like a hero n shit.

Remember when you wanted the most powerful role in Mafia history and I made it for you?

I was so happy. Not a king anymore except of being awesome.

[MacDougall]

[Sloonei]

Read Mac’s EOD and tell me that comes from a townie.

I felt a sense of urgency from him. I don't hate the tranq case, though I am a bit concerned now that I look at it that he came in late and didn't pay any attention to the Sloonei 5. They're the hottest show in town. @MacDougall what was your mindset toward Quin/G-man when you showed up today?

I paid attention to the Sloonei 5. I was fine with G-Man lynch but the wagon was going nowhere. I just wanted to get the lynch off Wilgy because, if we're talking about shows, I have seen that one too many times and know the entire script off by heart.

I have no real suspicion on Quin. In fact I would put Kyle, Luna and DDL lower than him on a list.

I think Quin's end of day was awful and it vaulted him to my top suspect. He's like the 10th person to sit in that seat this game.

[MacDougall]

Oh look. Wilgy is a civilian and got lynched early.

Better than him being a civ and getting lynched late.

Mac is scum. Tranq is opposing scum. Luna and Gman are still town. Idk who killed Nutella except it was probably Quin or Kyle.

Mac is not scum you wankman.

You don’t care about lynching scum. You drop your scumreads. You’re pretending to be me. You are maphiah.

I've put much more effort into scum hunting than you buddeh. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

If you think I wouldn't care about lynching scum in a two mafia game then you aren't using you brain correctly or you're just casting baseless shade because you saw your name in red on my rainbow list. There is no "doesn't care about lynching scum in this game". Get on my level.

You were all over me D1 and left me alone D2. WTH? Doesn’t feel legit.

I am extremely conscious of tunneling people to the point where I make the game experience toxic for people so I put down my suspicions and look elsewhere sometimes. I did the same thing with my DH suspicion. I still think you are both bad.

[MacDougall]

Timmer is also reasonable lol

[MacDougall]

Read Mac’s EOD and tell me that comes from a townie.

I felt a sense of urgency from him. I don't hate the tranq case, though I am a bit concerned now that I look at it that he came in late and didn't pay any attention to the Sloonei 5. They're the hottest show in town. @MacDougall what was your mindset toward Quin/G-man when you showed up today?

I paid attention to the Sloonei 5. I was fine with G-Man lynch but the wagon was going nowhere. I just wanted to get the lynch off Wilgy because, if we're talking about shows, I have seen that one too many times and know the entire script off by heart.

I have no real suspicion on Quin. In fact I would put Kyle, Luna and DDL lower than him on a list.

I think Quin's end of day was awful and it vaulted him to my top suspect. He's like the 10th person to sit in that seat this game.

I guess I just wasn't paying close attention to him.

[Jackofhearts2005]

one of the mafia team's win objectives isn't necessarily incompatible with the civilian win condition

Huh?

[MacDougall]

one of the mafia team's win objectives isn't necessarily incompatible with the civilian win condition

Huh?

He is drunk and scum claimed.

[MacDougall]

I know everyone likes to play "outguess the obvious" but if we don't lynch INH on day 3 I will flip my shit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh look. Wilgy is a civilian and got lynched early.

Better than him being a civ and getting lynched late.

Mac is scum. Tranq is opposing scum. Luna and Gman are still town. Idk who killed Nutella except it was probably Quin or Kyle.

Mac is not scum you wankman.

You don’t care about lynching scum. You drop your scumreads. You’re pretending to be me. You are maphiah.

I've put much more effort into scum hunting than you buddeh. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

If you think I wouldn't care about lynching scum in a two mafia game then you aren't using you brain correctly or you're just casting baseless shade because you saw your name in red on my rainbow list. There is no "doesn't care about lynching scum in this game". Get on my level.

You were all over me D1 and left me alone D2. WTH? Doesn’t feel legit.

I am extremely conscious of tunneling people to the point where I make the game experience toxic for people so I put down my suspicions and look elsewhere sometimes. I did the same thing with my DH suspicion. I still think you are both bad.

You tunneled me in the first game we played together and I Ted Cruz larped all over the thread and was happy.

[MacDougall]

Better than him being a civ and getting lynched late.

Mac is scum. Tranq is opposing scum. Luna and Gman are still town. Idk who killed Nutella except it was probably Quin or Kyle.

Mac is not scum you wankman.

You don’t care about lynching scum. You drop your scumreads. You’re pretending to be me. You are maphiah.

I've put much more effort into scum hunting than you buddeh. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

If you think I wouldn't care about lynching scum in a two mafia game then you aren't using you brain correctly or you're just casting baseless shade because you saw your name in red on my rainbow list. There is no "doesn't care about lynching scum in this game". Get on my level.

You were all over me D1 and left me alone D2. WTH? Doesn’t feel legit.

I am extremely conscious of tunneling people to the point where I make the game experience toxic for people so I put down my suspicions and look elsewhere sometimes. I did the same thing with my DH suspicion. I still think you are both bad.

You tunneled me in the first game we played together and I Ted Cruz larped all over the thread and was happy.

I have probably received more MOD complaints levelled at me than anyone on the site at this point. I really have to take myself away from cases to avoid upsetting people no matter whether I am right or wrong and it isn't even always the person I am tunneling that gets upset by it.

[Sloonei]

I had a scum read on Mac Day 1, now he's my top town read.

[MacDougall]

I had a scum read on Mac Day 1, now he's my top town read.

What an honour

[Jackofhearts2005]

I had a scum read on Mac Day 1, now he's my top town read.

Why?

[Sloonei]

I had a scum read on Mac Day 1, now he's my top town read.

Why?

Feel. I was here for a while leading up to the deadline and the thread was lazily circling the drain toward a wilgy lynch. Mac was the only person who seemed to bring any life to things. That, and his tinfoil on me at the end of Day 1 was too off the wall not to be genuine. And at no point today did I feel like he was not genuinely trying to hunt for bad guys.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I feel like inebriation can be an asset as it allows the TRUTH to be revealed to those with the COURAGE to seek it out.

All y'all in the chat can shut up. I'mp laying the game perfectly

what mac's talking about

[Jackofhearts2005]

I had a scum read on Mac Day 1, now he's my top town read.

Why?

Feel. I was here for a while leading up to the deadline and the thread was lazily circling the drain toward a wilgy lynch. Mac was the only person who seemed to bring any life to things. That, and his tinfoil on me at the end of Day 1 was too off the wall not to be genuine. And at no point today did I feel like he was not genuinely trying to hunt for bad guys.

Okay well I haven’t read that part yet.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m normally like “slips aren’t a thing” but if INH survives the night, that’s a problem.

[Jackofhearts2005]

That was poorly worded. I’m just echoing Mac’s flip my shit post but like vig should make sure he doesn’t even make it to D3.

[MacDougall]

I’m normally like “slips aren’t a thing” but if INH survives the night, that’s a problem.

An admission/claim is not the same thing as a slip.

[insertnamehere]

I'm not a baddie. Really guys, I'm not.

[insertnamehere]

But if you want to lynch me, do it bitch

[MacDougall]

You're only here to market your own game lol

[nutella]

I'm on page 40. I feel close to being in the modern world.

I can relate to this feeling because for the last few months I've been listening through the archive of This American Life episodes starting from all the way back in the 90s and I'm up to like 2005 so it's like getting closer to present reality yknow

[Tranq]

Wilgy could be the Hollow Man. That one appears as a random civ when lynched

[DharmaHelper]

one of the mafia team's win objectives isn't necessarily incompatible with the civilian win condition

Huh?

He is drunk and scum claimed.

Stayed up too late playing a cool game on Steam and I'm zonked tired out of my mind but this is the funniest shit I've seen all game.

[sabie12]

Just popping in for a second. I also was referring to the hollow man role that can appear civ when lynched. Its possible. Or it's possible we were just wrong. Wilgy never bothered to defend himself or do anything really so it's hard to tell. I will have to look more into the 5 people sloonei was suspecting and see where the tranq thing came from as it happened pretty quick. I had been suspecting quin before so I'll have to look more closely there. I think the inh suspicion comes from being unsure where his info came from all of a sudden out of nowhere at the end of the day after not being around for awhile and everyone thinking he was silenced. This end if day was weird to say the least.

[S~V~S]

one of the mafia team's win objectives isn't necessarily incompatible with the civilian win condition

Huh?

He is drunk and scum claimed.

Stayed up too late playing a cool game on Steam and I'm zonked tired out of my mind but this is the funniest shit I've seen all game.

Hard to say with INH, iirc he asked if it was OK to role claim in the thread. INH has his own agenda, he just lets us participate in it.

That said,

SCUM TEAM 1:

Mac
Nutella
Epignosis
S~V~S

SCUM TEAM 2:

Sloonei
DH
Luna
Timmer

you're welcome, everyone

So you think TH was not Trickster? I have my doubts too, if I had a baddie team with that role on it, I would consider a bold move like that on Night One, especially if whoever is Trickster is someone unlikely to be blocked/checked night one.

But putting me on a bad team in this game is in error; I am not bad

Don't CFD me. I have info on Wilgy. He's bad!

OK, this made me laugh. But poor Wilgy.

Well that was a sucky result. If Wilgy was the only person Sabie was with (her last post doesn't indicate any back ups up her sleeve), this considerable narrows the possibilities on the crazy old ladys meanings.

[MacDougall]

one of the mafia team's win objectives isn't necessarily incompatible with the civilian win condition

Huh?

He is drunk and scum claimed.

Stayed up too late playing a cool game on Steam and I'm zonked tired out of my mind but this is the funniest shit I've seen all game.

Hard to say with INH, iirc he asked if it was OK to role claim in the thread. INH has his own agenda, he just lets us participate in it.

That said,

SCUM TEAM 1:

Mac
Nutella
Epignosis
S~V~S

SCUM TEAM 2:

Sloonei
DH
Luna
Timmer

you're welcome, everyone

So you think TH was not Trickster? I have my doubts too, if I had a baddie team with that role on it, I would consider a bold move like that on Night One, especially if whoever is Trickster is someone unlikely to be blocked/checked night one.

But putting me on a bad team in this game is in error; I am not bad

Don't CFD me. I have info on Wilgy. He's bad!

OK, this made me laugh. But poor Wilgy.

Well that was a sucky result. If Wilgy was the only person Sabie was with (her last post doesn't indicate any back ups up her sleeve), this considerable narrows the possibilities on the crazy old ladys meanings.

I must be taking crazy pills but you just simultaneously entertained INH insane ramblings and didn't find Tranq's Wilgy lie suspicious at the same time right?

[S~V~S]

Wilgy could be the Hollow Man. That one appears as a random civ when lynched

I guess this is possible, but what would be the odds of losing both false front roles in the first few days? Possible, but I dunno. I would expect Sabie to be more freaked out that he flipped like he did if she believed him to be bad, as opposed to herself. Her reaction is more "meh, oh well, time to move on I guess".

I don't love the info any more than you do, but it IS out there, so can't ignore it.

Linki, what lie? I thought that was a crack about info dumping. And INH is a force of nature. An unusual nature, but you can't really take him at face value. He does and says his own thing always, and I won't auto-susp him for saying something quirky and provocative.

I have played with both of them for a long time, I might not read them the same as you do.

[S~V~S]

To be more explicit re Tranq, I would be amazed if baddie Tranq would say such a dumb thing in seriousness, joke or not. He is insanely careful. I don't recall ever seeing bad Tranq lynched. Maybe [mention]juliets[/mention] would have a better idea of that, and I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong there.

I am never comfortable in a game until certain people slip into place. That remark went far towards making me feel better about Tranq, but not good enough to greenlight him.

[MacDougall]

INH was drunk and scum claimed. He can't be left alive.

[S~V~S]

Do you mean this post? But there is square chat in this game.

I feel like inebriation can be an asset as it allows the TRUTH to be revealed to those with the COURAGE to seek it out.

All y'all in the chat can shut up. I'mp laying the game perfectly

He may have been drunk, but I don't think he was drunk enough to tell his baddie teammates to shut up in a post in the thread. He can't think he was posting IN the chat cause he said "y'all in the chat". INH is cunning and cryptic, but even drunk I would have problems thinking this is a slip.

This more so, though.

one of the mafia team's win objectives isn't necessarily incompatible with the civilian win condition

I would like to know how he knew that.

Plus while he made a checkable statement, he made it in the middle of the night when few were around, so would be less likely to be checked. I would definitely be interested in this discussion based on the win con remark, more so than the chat room remark.

[S~V~S]

Duh, the baddie win cons are posted, and I did not see the word "secret".

32 roles, 30 players. Two is too obvious. Didn't LC/BR have two people in one role in a previous game?

I am voting One.

[MacDougall]

I understand why you'd doubt it but you can't leave a guy alive who drunkenly jokingly scum claims.

[S~V~S]

It just seems too obvious, and you don't like to see people you think of as evil geniuses doing obvious things, you know?

I am looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

[MacDougall]

It just seems too obvious, and you don't like to see people you think of as evil geniuses doing obvious things, you know?

I am looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

What is the evil genius civilian mindset behind such a move?

[S~V~S]

It just seems too obvious, and you don't like to see people you think of as evil geniuses doing obvious things, you know?

I am looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

What is the evil genius civilian mindset behind such a move?

lol, hard to say. INH acts like an evil genius always. So touche, I guess. It was careless regardless of affiliation, and I am not used to seeing INH careless, but I tend to steer clear of him in general becasue he tends to aim scorn at much of what I say, and I get the feel he doesn't much care for my game, and our opinions on most things differ greatly. I could be wrong there, but I try to stay out of his face. I admire his chaoticness, but I don't totally understand it. I can be chaotic, too, but in a very different way than INH.

So tl;dr, while I tend to blow off INH's "bwa ha ha" bluster as just INH being INH and don't suspect him for it, now that I think about it, I can't really say I know his civ game from his bad. I think he is more of a crusader when civ, but I cannot say where I got that impression. I guess it is time to pay more attention.

[sprityo]

Golden and dunya are the two extra players svs that’s why they couldn’t sign up. The perfect cover!

[sabie12]

Wilgy could be the Hollow Man. That one appears as a random civ when lynched

I guess this is possible, but what would be the odds of losing both false front roles in the first few days? Possible, but I dunno. I would expect Sabie to be more freaked out that he flipped like he did if she believed him to be bad, as opposed to herself. Her reaction is more "meh, oh well, time to move on I guess".

I don't love the info any more than you do, but it IS out there, so can't ignore it.

Linki, what lie? I thought that was a crack about info dumping. And INH is a force of nature. An unusual nature, but you can't really take him at face value. He does and says his own thing always, and I won't auto-susp him for saying something quirky and provocative.

I have played with both of them for a long time, I might not read them the same as you do.

I do feel bad about being wrong about wilgy and that I let myself be convinced he was bad if he wasn't. I guess him being so nonchalant and absent most of the game made the whole thing a little more meh for everyone. As people were saying the end if day was not as lively and exciting as it can sometimes be. Usually the people being accused at least come in and defend themselves and a conversation happens. That didnt really happen this time. No one else really has had a strong reaction to his death either that I saw unless I missed it. But again I'm sorry I was wrong. Both lynches have not gone great for us so hoping for better results next time.
It seemed like everyone was pretty quick to move on to the next thing. Especially with INH coming in with a bunch of posts out of nowhere.

[ColinIsCool]

Don't CFD me. I have info on Wilgy. He's bad!

[S~V~S]

Wilgy could be the Hollow Man. That one appears as a random civ when lynched

I guess this is possible, but what would be the odds of losing both false front roles in the first few days? Possible, but I dunno. I would expect Sabie to be more freaked out that he flipped like he did if she believed him to be bad, as opposed to herself. Her reaction is more "meh, oh well, time to move on I guess".

I don't love the info any more than you do, but it IS out there, so can't ignore it.

Linki, what lie? I thought that was a crack about info dumping. And INH is a force of nature. An unusual nature, but you can't really take him at face value. He does and says his own thing always, and I won't auto-susp him for saying something quirky and provocative.

I have played with both of them for a long time, I might not read them the same as you do.

I do feel bad about being wrong about wilgy and that I let myself be convinced he was bad if he wasn't. I guess him being so nonchalant and absent most of the game made the whole thing a little more meh for everyone. As people were saying the end if day was not as lively and exciting as it can sometimes be. Usually the people being accused at least come in and defend themselves and a conversation happens. That didnt really happen this time. No one else really has had a strong reaction to his death either that I saw unless I missed it. But again I'm sorry I was wrong. Both lynches have not gone great for us so hoping for better results next time.
It seemed like everyone was pretty quick to move on to the next thing. Especially with INH coming in with a bunch of posts out of nowhere.

I think you misunderstand my concerns.

Sprit says the old lady told him you were seen with a jagged blade. This could mean you were carrying an actual jagged blade, i.e., a member of the baddie team. OR it could mean you were with a person who was a member of the Jagged Blade team. Part of the reason Wilgy took moree votes than he might have (had all of this old lady in the woods biz not happened, for instance, I would have kept my vote on Luna. Her reaction to both the info~ instatrust; and to the suspicion and skepticism of the info~ leaving the thread; I found very suspect). But the implication was that if the first interpretation of the old lady info was wrong, and you were with a person who was a member of the jagged blade, and you voted for Wilgy .... well, you see, right? That person HAD to be a Jagged Blade.

But Wilgy was NOT a Jagged Blade. So either he was that role that flips as a random civ OR you are potentially bad.

Your, "Oh well, let's move on" reaction to all of this is more nonchalant that I would expect it to be were you not a Jagged Blade. Other peoples reaction in this case are not as important as is yours.

And re Tranq, until he says otherwise, I still think that "info" crack was a joke. He hates direct info drops.

[ColinIsCool]

Sabie, INH, Tranq. One of these three tomorrow.

[juliets]

To be more explicit re Tranq, I would be amazed if baddie Tranq would say such a dumb thing in seriousness, joke or not. He is insanely careful. I don't recall ever seeing bad Tranq lynched. Maybe @juliets would have a better idea of that, and I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong there.

I am never comfortable in a game until certain people slip into place. That remark went far towards making me feel better about Tranq, but not good enough to greenlight him.

I concur that Tranq is insanely careful and I don't remember seeing a Tranq baddie lynch either. But I'm still somewhat shocked at his exclamation in the middle of EOD that Wilgy was bad when in reality he wasn't. (btw, RIP DrWilgy, thank you for answering my call to play with us). So I've got a question for [mention]Tranq[/mention] this morning: why did you think Wilgy was bad? Can you share that or no? What do you think about the fact he flipped good?

As for INH, I couldn't help but laugh when I came to his posts. Chaos player is the perfect description for him. I don't know what to think right now about his pronouncements, I'll have to re-read them. He couldn't possibly have that much info on people though could he? We're only on N2 right now. Also, his sudden appearance after we were thinking he was silenced is a little disconcerting. I also need to re-look at his drunk post because I didn't see the claim on the face of it the first time I read it.

[Tranq]

I woke up in the middle of the night and found myself about to be CFD'd so I made another last minute push for Wilgy. As I said before Wilgy could be the Hollow Man so I'm not necessarily wrong. On my square there's an item i found called the Mirror of Truth which told me he might be bad.

[sabie12]

I dont know all I know is someone is messing with me and has it out for me and that little bit of map info is making people suspect me when it really does not say I'm bad. People haven't made any case against me other than here is some really vague info we choose to interpret incorrectly and we will automatically assume sabie is bad now. I am not bad so someone is trying to make me look that way to get suspicion off of themselves.

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.

So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

I am still not convinced wilgy isnt bad. Unless he just really doesn't care about this game at all he didn't even put up any defense about being accused or voted for. And he still really hasn't been around. It also now seems like maybe TH was defending him.

I was just speculating if TH was the trickster could he have killed nutella and someone killed him. I dont know if that really impacts anything but it would be an interesting turn of events if it did happen that way.

Can someone condense the argument on g man so I can get a better idea of where that is coming from? I didnt really get much from trying to read him before.



I know I haven't posted much there is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.

This post gives me the heeby-jeebies. A no u against sprit, redirecting traffic away to what some may call a cop-out vote in Wilgy, and this perfect “open to lynching G-Man but also open to not doing that” twist at the end ... maybe I’m a crackpot but it feels like we can learn a lot from this if G-Man is lynched and turns out bad.

Jeebies Status:

Heebied.

[sabie12]

The gman thing I was just trying to ask someone to condense the argument on him because there was so much going on I just didnt follow it. I was not defending him I was just asking someone to condense it so i knew what was up. I honestly didnt read his iso or anything so chalk it up to laziness on my part.