Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]

[colonialbob]

I'm not going to die.

Hopefully you'll forgive me if I don't stake the game on this assurance?

[colonialbob]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

[MacDougall]

My plan involves four consecutive Mafia lynches. The only players it doesn't serve are the other Mafia.

[MacDougall]

My theory is that if I haven't found a replacement win con by the time that I am the last Mafia left then you lynch me civs win. If I have then the last remnant lynched will trigger the civ win con and mine alongside it.

[Epignosis]

I'm not going to die.

Hopefully you'll forgive me if I don't stake the game on this assurance?

Why would you have to? Am I a threat to you?

[MacDougall]

Okay okay Colonialbob is one of them if that wasn't obvious by his hilarious overreaction.

[MacDougall]

It's a bit shit because DDL, TH, CB and blank played extremely well. The civs are going to walk ass backwards into this win.

[Quin]

wait no civs cant win before i get my win con or kyle will top out on the leaderboard for 2019

[MacDougall]

You have a few days left at least

[colonialbob]

I'm not going to die.

Hopefully you'll forgive me if I don't stake the game on this assurance?

Why would you have to? Am I a threat to you?

Idk but if you die and Mac regains his mafia win con he is

[colonialbob]

Okay okay Colonialbob is one of them if that wasn't obvious by his hilarious overreaction.

Lol "hilarious overreaction" ok bud

[Dana]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

[Epignosis]

wait no civs cant win before i get my win con or kyle will top out on the leaderboard for 2019

Meow

[colonialbob]

"let me pretend to know who the other mafia is and then I'll just claim it's the first person who criticizes my plan"

[MacDougall]

Okay okay Colonialbob is one of them if that wasn't obvious by his hilarious overreaction.

Lol "hilarious overreaction" ok bud

You have been a non entity until now and all of a sudden it's like whoa whoa back up jack.

From where I am sitting it was pretty hilarious.

[MacDougall]

"let me pretend to know who the other mafia is and then I'll just claim it's the first person who criticizes my plan"

You got me ColonialBob. My entire plan has been unravelled. Just like that.

[colonialbob]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

Because Mac claimed he can see everybody around him and that fits with Darth Malignus the silencer

[colonialbob]

Okay okay Colonialbob is one of them if that wasn't obvious by his hilarious overreaction.

Lol "hilarious overreaction" ok bud

You have been a non entity until now and all of a sudden it's like whoa whoa back up jack.

From where I am sitting it was pretty hilarious.

I was traveling today, like I posted earlier. Just got back to the thread to catch up

[MacDougall]

"wooh this is easy nobody is suspecting me let's coast wait what Mac knows who we are and everyone believes him hold my beer shit..."

[colonialbob]

"let me pretend to know who the other mafia is and then I'll just claim it's the first person who criticizes my plan"

You got me ColonialBob. My entire plan has been unravelled. Just like that.

It's ok, you tried

[MacDougall]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

Because Mac claimed he can see everybody around him and that fits with Darth Malignus the silencer

I thought it would be funny.

[Dana]

I mean Mac said the only people who would oppose would be the other mafia team or indie chaos enhancers. I don't think it's a perfect plan but it seems good enough to me. I know literally nothing so info is pretty cool I think

[MacDougall]

Think about it. ColonialBob has been clean as a whistle. He's played a great game. Of course he's Mafia.

[Dana]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

Because Mac claimed he can see everybody around him and that fits with Darth Malignus the silencer

I thought it would be funny.

So you did silence DH? Why is this the first time you used your silencing power? And wouldn't you be able to see around you anyway just due to being mafia or is that not how it works

[MacDougall]

Can anyone vouch for CB at all?

[colonialbob]

"wooh this is easy nobody is suspecting me let's coast wait what Mac knows who we are and everyone believes him hold my beer shit..."

Yeah totally coming out against this "let me help the town win" plan is a very smart move for me, an opposing mafia player, because sticking your neck out unnecessarily is always the good play

[colonialbob]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

Because Mac claimed he can see everybody around him and that fits with Darth Malignus the silencer

I thought it would be funny.

It was

[MacDougall]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

Because Mac claimed he can see everybody around him and that fits with Darth Malignus the silencer

I thought it would be funny.

So you did silence DH? Why is this the first time you used your silencing power? And wouldn't you be able to see around you anyway just due to being mafia or is that not how it works

Speedchuck silenced him because I asked him to. I am not Darth Malignus. Speedchuck is.

[MacDougall]

"wooh this is easy nobody is suspecting me let's coast wait what Mac knows who we are and everyone believes him hold my beer shit..."

Yeah totally coming out against this "let me help the town win" plan is a very smart move for me, an opposing mafia player, because sticking your neck out unnecessarily is always the good play

As opposed to just, dying. It's a fairly disadvantageous position I put you in admittedly.

[colonialbob]

I mean Mac said the only people who would oppose would be the other mafia team or indie chaos enhancers. I don't think it's a perfect plan but it seems good enough to me. I know literally nothing so info is pretty cool I think

Yes, Mac said the only people who would oppose his plan are bad. That's, like, classic well poisoning. There's obviously no other possible reason to oppose his plan other than being bad, and thus you can safely discount all given reasons to oppose the plan because they are fake because they've been made up by somebody who's obviously bad (because they are opposing the plan, see). It's airtight.

[colonialbob]

Oh man Mac silenced DH lol

Why do you say this?

Because Mac claimed he can see everybody around him and that fits with Darth Malignus the silencer

I thought it would be funny.

So you did silence DH? Why is this the first time you used your silencing power? And wouldn't you be able to see around you anyway just due to being mafia or is that not how it works

Speedchuck silenced him because I asked him to. I am not Darth Malignus. Speedchuck is.

That's slightly less funny.

But only slightly.

[MacDougall]

Well there isn't. It's a trap card and you walked into it. The town are all confused and in the dark. The only person who actively argues with the logic of the strategy is the troll or the villain. I silenced DH mainly for lulz but also because he's an agent of chaos and never does the logical thing, which given I know who all the townies are and I know they are all logicians, was the only thing I had to worry bout.

You should have just stayed quiet.

[colonialbob]

"wooh this is easy nobody is suspecting me let's coast wait what Mac knows who we are and everyone believes him hold my beer shit..."

Yeah totally coming out against this "let me help the town win" plan is a very smart move for me, an opposing mafia player, because sticking your neck out unnecessarily is always the good play

As opposed to just, dying. It's a fairly disadvantageous position I put you in admittedly.

If I'm mafia why do I make a play before you actually come out and name me?

Yep I've changed my mind I'm pretty on board to lynch Mac tomorrow, since obviously he doesn't actually know who the other mafia is.

[colonialbob]

Well there isn't. It's a trap card and you walked into it. The town are all confused and in the dark. The only person who actively argues with the logic of the strategy is the troll or the villain. I silenced DH mainly for lulz but also because he's an agent of chaos and never does the logical thing, which given I know who all the townies are and I know they are all logicians, was the only thing I had to worry bout.

You should have just stayed quiet.

Nope. I've seen this movie before and spoiler alert it isn't good for town.

Eliminating a night kill is a Good Thing.

[MacDougall]

*rolls eyes*

You are mafia and you made a play before I named you because you are playing checkers and I am playing chess.

[MacDougall]

ColonialBob has no interest in understanding, discovering or hunting Corrupt Remnant. He wants to drive the Jagged Blade into the dirt even though the Jagged Blade has gone legit. Because ColonialBob is corrupt. CorruptialBob.

[Quin]

You have a few days left at least

unless this game went into like day 14 i never stood a chance

[MacDougall]

Classic Mafia argument.

"Lol if I am Mafia why do I do the thing I just did huh."

[MacDougall]

When the handful of remaining civilians actually stop and ponder it the entire game will be solved. Some alcohol will help if you need.

[colonialbob]

K.

I'm done getting in a back and forth pissing match, because that's not really fun for anybody else and it's not like the arguing is going to convince anybody. I'm happy to lay out my case again for why Mac's plan isn't some magical town-favoring super plan, but honestly I feel like "hey maybe let's not just do everything the self-admitted mafioso says because he promises it will be good for us" should be enough.

But then people voted for Cataclysm so

[MacDougall]

How is this a pissing match? This is a showdown and what the game is all about? Don't be such a baby.

[MacDougall]

If you can't stand toe to toe and argue with your accuser on the day of reckoning what do you even play the game for?

[colonialbob]

I'll answer actual points, but "you're playing checkers I'm playing chess" isn't really an argument now is it

[colonialbob]

So far your best argument is "he's so town he has to be mafia which... wew lads

[Dana]

I was gonna get back into this discussion but it seems like you guys got it handled and there were crazy alien lights all up in the sky by my house so who knows maybe this really is the end.

[Dana]

So far your best argument is "he's so town he has to be mafia which... wew lads

Which is what I said about Mac multiple times...

[MacDougall]

Anyway his case is rested. Thank you CorruptableBob.

My case is as follows:

If you look for an argument to favour ColonialBob being a civilian, you will not find one. ColonialBob has been just ... there. In the background moving the dialogue, casting his votes, influencing play. No stake in the ground. He has played no part in any of the major moments of the game. He has been on the fringe of things. Nobody knows a thing about him, he has received very little suspicion.

ColonialBob, feeling the pressure of process of elimination and seeing the opposing Mafia destroyed and their last holdout chirping like a canary in the thread, is freaking out. He, like me, knows who everyone else is. He sees civilians agreeing to trust me. He knows his goose is cooked if he doesn't say something right now. So he does. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Look in your heart of hearts and give me a reason why ColonialBob is a civilian.

[colonialbob]

Anyway his case is rested. Thank you CorruptableBob.

My case is as follows:

If you look for an argument to favour ColonialBob being a civilian, you will not find one. ColonialBob has been just ... there. In the background moving the dialogue, casting his votes, influencing play. No stake in the ground. He has played no part in any of the major moments of the game. He has been on the fringe of things. Nobody knows a thing about him, he has received very little suspicion.

ColonialBob, feeling the pressure of process of elimination and seeing the opposing Mafia destroyed and their last holdout chirping like a canary in the thread, is freaking out. He, like me, knows who everyone else is. He sees civilians agreeing to trust me. He knows his goose is cooked if he doesn't say something right now. So he does. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Look in your heart of hearts and give me a reason why ColonialBob is a civilian.

My role PM says so

[MacDougall]

So you have no actual alibis? You've encountered no players whose trust you have exchanged? There is no actual civilian activity you wish to point at and say "damn right there I was being a civ"!

[colonialbob]

So you have no actual alibis? You've encountered no players whose trust you have exchanged? There is no actual civilian activity you wish to point at and say "damn right there I was being a civ"!

Jack.