Cards Against Humanity [GAME OVER]

[thellama73]

Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.

[Hedgeowl]

Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.

No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?

[johns2jj]

If I am lynched, afterwards, could people tell me why not llama? Thank you.

[thellama73]

Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.

No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?

The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.

I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.

[thellama73]

Also, I am inclined not to believe a word DH says, even though we are best friends.

[DharmaHelper]

If I am lynched, afterwards, could people tell me why not llama? Thank you.

[DharmaHelper]

Also, I am inclined not to believe a word DH says, even though we are best friends.

You find it difficult to believe that it was a tie?

[Mister Rearranger]

RIP(iywg) FZ!

Seem aggressive? I'm asking questions....

And can you explain to me how MR and john seem to have both known that there was a tie?

I was not aware of a tie.

I was asking out of consideration that there may be one. I figured either there was vote manip to prompt a tie that saved Llama, or that Llama survived on his own. Neither paints him in a positive light, imo.

Idk, even if DH missed making a choice out of the tie he claims, I'm not sure nothing would have happened.

I think we might have ourselves a baddie Llama here. That's where my vote will rest for now.

*votes Llama*

GotAWholeLottaLinki: Jeebus, guys. Stifle yaselves.

[Hedgeowl]

If I am lynched, afterwards, could people tell me why not llama? Thank you.

I find llamas survival the most damning part of this whole thing. DHs sudden defensive posturing didnt do him any favors either though.

You will have to wait for end game for "real" reasons since there is definitely baddie shenanigans happening even if you are a baddie yourself.

FH - whoops, but two is better than none!

[Hedgeowl]

Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.

No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?

The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.

I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.

Thanks. but with two baddie teams, that could be a set-up and you could still be bad.

[Mister Rearranger]

I'm gonna vote jj for now. I don't know what I'm doing for today yet (I'm spending the day with my aunt). I don't want to miss the vote. I just se egis Shawshank game coming through. I have suspicion against llama too, but I'm really not sure we're seeing his baddie game.

I don't disagree with this, I do feel some nuances of his Shawshank game.

[thellama73]

Also, I am inclined not to believe a word DH says, even though we are best friends.

You find it difficult to believe that it was a tie?

No, I find it hard to believe that you would so overtly reveal behind the scenes information truthfully. It is not in keeping with your character.

[DharmaHelper]

Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.

[thellama73]

Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.

It would not be dumb if you are bad and trying to get me lynched.

[johns2jj]

Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.

With how this game is set up it is going to be very easy For people to manipulate information and keep people from acting with the whole story.

[Epignosis]

I think it's interesting to see how people reacted with DH initially withholding the information, frankly.

[DharmaHelper]

Inorite

[Hedgeowl]

Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.

Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?

[Hedgeowl]

I think it's interesting to see how people reacted with DH initially withholding the information, frankly.

I just read through his comments and didnt see him withholding info? Do you mean when people asked him for more information about the tie?

[AceofSpaces]

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

[johns2jj]

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

I voted twice so far. One I felt I did not have enough information and now when I do. So every time?

[Mister Rearranger]

See, Dom's vote post makes sense. Anyone who played Shawshank with J2JJ is going to be wary of him. I may personally not like to vote based on "he acted like this before", metagaming cases (that Memento quote applies here as it did with Llama on D1), but I find it understandable. This:

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.

If this is the case, why do we not consistently lynch Vomps, AP, Lizzy, etc... on D1 for pulling the same kind of sh*t? I don't like self-voters, randomizers, and all-around wacky vote patterns, but from the games I've played, there are many players who prove it's not an indication of allegiance one way or another.

[Hedgeowl]

See, Dom's vote post makes sense. Anyone who played Shawshank with J2JJ is going to be wary of him. I may personally not like to vote based on "he acted like this before", metagaming cases (that Memento quote applies here as it did with Llama on D1), but I find it understandable. This:

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.

If this is the case, why do we not consistently lynch Vomps, AP, Lizzy, etc... on D1 for pulling the same kind of sh*t? I don't like self-voters, randomizers, and all-around wacky vote patterns, but from the games I've played, there are many players who prove it's not an indication of allegiance one way or another.

ture.

[DharmaHelper]

Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.

Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?

Was busy and tied up with other stuff, and revealed it was a tie as soon as I read the issue was up for debate.

Llama's posts have been ringing more civ than Sorshas recently.

[AceofSpaces]

See, Dom's vote post makes sense. Anyone who played Shawshank with J2JJ is going to be wary of him. I may personally not like to vote based on "he acted like this before", metagaming cases (that Memento quote applies here as it did with Llama on D1), but I find it understandable. This:

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.

If this is the case, why do we not consistently lynch Vomps, AP, Lizzy, etc... on D1 for pulling the same kind of sh*t? I don't like self-voters, randomizers, and all-around wacky vote patterns, but from the games I've played, there are many players who prove it's not an indication of allegiance one way or another.

Regarding the why not someone else part, because I've got the strongest baddie feeling from John. Reading through his post on day one just made him seem really sketchy to me. That is just my gut feeling.

[Mister Rearranger]

Linki @Aces: I see what you're getting at. My mention of other users was in reference to other games though. Some of them often self-vote without even contributing, leaving nothing to base even a feeling off of.

Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.

Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?

Was busy and tied up with other stuff, and revealed it was a tie as soon as I read the issue was up for debate.

Llama's posts have been ringing more civ than Sorshas recently.

They have?

If it's not much of a bother for you to put in more work: examples plz?

And what do you think of J2JJ, the other major vote-getter?

[AceofSpaces]

Gotta say, I'm not sure what to think about DH's and llama's bromance. I'll be keeping an eye on them too as we move forward.

[thellama73]

Gotta say, I'm not sure what to think about DH's and llama's bromance. I'll be keeping an eye on them too as we move forward.

If it's a bromance, it's an abusive relationship, since he voted to lynch me over Sorsha yesterday (or at least claims to have.)

[DharmaHelper]

I am voting llama unless something else changes my mind. I would rather vote someone less active but I don't have enough evidence for them yet. I am on the fence about lynching people who under participate.

I don't have a grudge against you, I just think your bad, and this post does you no favors.
1. There was no tie (that we know about)
2. Even if there was a tie, and the card czar got to break it, how does me surviving it make me bad? That is a non-sequitur.

I do understand what people are saying about John~ and his last few responses seem more like there is some baddieism going on. But up to that point, I am not sure why llama was so sure, when in only his second game John behaves similarly to his prior game in which he gave a very good showing.

I was never "so sure." He was just my best guess on Day 1. His Day 2 posts have made me more confident that I was on to something though.

The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.

I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.

These posts in particular seem pretty logical/honest/civvie leaning to me. Sorsha's storming off after I brought her up didn't.

[Bass_the_Clever]

Isn't their only one role that could survive day one and isn't that role a baddie?

[DharmaHelper]

OiC are you saying llama is the taint?

[Bass_the_Clever]

3. Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.

[Bass_the_Clever]

OiC are you saying llama is the taint?

I'm asking how else could he survive?

[Mister Rearranger]

I think you're all taints.

And thanks for the Llama quotes, DH. I'll agree to disagree with you on Sorsha though.

[DharmaHelper]

Changed my vote to llama because I feel like an idiot for not going through the roles. Bass makes a good point, I don't see a civvie option at the minute.

[Mister Rearranger]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

[Bass_the_Clever]

I'm voting llama because I don't see how else he could have survived unless he was the role I posted above.

[Bass_the_Clever]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

Sorry I didn't see it.

[DharmaHelper]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

Implying I read things. pff.

[thellama73]

I'm going to have to ask you guys to reconsider. I have no explanation for how I survived, but being a baddie isn't it. Boo has evidently not disclosed the full mechanics of the game.

[Mister Rearranger]

It's ok you guys; now if he flips civ, I'm gonna be in hot sh*t.

[Epignosis]

I think it's interesting to see how people reacted with DH initially withholding the information, frankly.

I just read through his comments and didnt see him withholding info? Do you mean when people asked him for more information about the tie?

DH didn't say it was a tie until noon today. I didn't know it was a tie until he said so. That provides a different context for the reaction posts.

Furthermore, it removes the doubt that stayed my hand.

This circumstance reminds me of Minecraft. I was bad, and Zany Dex sniffed me out quick. The lynch votes came, and I used my power to switch it. It was either that or die, but in that moment, I was a dead man walking. I'm proud to say I nearly weaseled my way out of it too.

Unlike a lynch switch, however, there is no choice in surviving a lynch or night kill- it automatically happens. If there had been odd mechanics involved, that's one thing. If it was a tie, then Logan is bad. Case closed.

However, it introduced a new doubt: That DharmaHelper is lying about it being a tie. It wouldn't be the first time he invented a story to manipulate people.

[Marmot]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

[Marmot]

What does it matter if there was a tie in the lynchvoting? Card czars are required to break any tie that does happen. (That being me today). Somebody should have died yesterday.

[thellama73]

If I die today, I would advice you guys to look for late voters for me as potential baddies.

[Epignosis]

Pleased to see I'm still here. I don't know why I am, but I assume some kind (and rational) soul saved me. Thank you.

Why assume this on a Day 1 lynch?

[S~V~S]

Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.

[thellama73]

Pleased to see I'm still here. I don't know why I am, but I assume some kind (and rational) soul saved me. Thank you.

Why assume this on a Day 1 lynch?

What else was I to assume? I didn't save myself, so someone else must have.

[Marmot]

Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.

You're not Elohcin.

[DharmaHelper]

Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.

You're not Elohcin.

Actually lol'd