The Game of Champions 2018 [ENDGAME]

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1601

Are my main poe pool.

#1602

First, regardless of Mac naming me I am not bad. If you have real suspicions I will be happy to answer them.

I read through sig and Elo and I'm slightly suspicious of Elo but it's really because DH anointed that post she made as a good post - he went out of his way to call it out. I guess her refusal to vote for DH could also be seen as compatible but she did ask for someone to explain why he had votes since she had been busy that day and I don't think anyone responded. [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] was there anything else you saw that was teammate compatible with DH? Also, I didn't like her vote for nutella as I think there is enough evidence to show nutella is not bad this game. So all in all I can't rule Elo out so she stays in my POE.

As for sig, the two team thing, the remaining Luna suspicion, the fact that he found my D1 votes post suspicious because it was in depth, the nutella suspicion, all give me concerns about him. One post did stand out as good insight based on what happened with DH was this one:

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:32 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:42 am
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:46 am So quick recap I thought the mafia killed Mac since he had names on his list. I still believe this is true anand recommend we look closely into DH and juliet, however atm I think we should be lynching Luna. She's been spared from a lynch twice with a non mafia being lynched each time.
Why are we isolating that one post and not, say, his harranguing of Quin?
Quin is dead and flipped mafia. However, I don't think they'd have killed him if he was right about just one person. So he probably had more mafia members on that list.

The thing I'm left wondering though is did he say this because he knew it to be true and was distancing? I don't know the answer but he's definitely in my POE.

I'm going to find Kyle's posts next.

#1603

Well that didn't take long. Kyle's posts seem mostly empty though he does call me, nutella, S~V~S and Luna good which is a +1 for him. He also asks for a rundown on why people are voting DH and here I found that nutella DID respond to both he and Elo to read her exchange with DH at the bottom of page 29 for reasons. I can't tell if Kyle did that or not but he didn't vote DH. I can't take Kyle out of my POE even with the positive I see so he is a suspect for me.

I noticed nutella mentioned Jay in her POE. His schtick is kinda weird and I honestly don't see how he is saving himself time - seems like it would take longer - but I haven't really sorted him yet from a POE perspective.

#1604

juliets is on point

#1605

DH getting votes "for no reason" is something DH said himself repeatedly, so there may have been a consensus in the baddie chatroom that they didn't understand the logic of the suspicion against him. In this way, I think Elo looks mafia.

#1606

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:00 pm He also asks for a rundown on why people are voting DH and here I found that nutella DID respond to both he and Elo to read her exchange with DH at the bottom of page 29 for reasons. I can't tell if Kyle did that or not but he didn't vote DH.

i only saw DH's side of it cus i read his ISO only and he didn't respond to any of nutella's points in quotes or anything. reading DH's posts gave me no information on the topic of why he was being lynched, just that he was acting like there weren't reasons, which meant that if there were reasons then he wasn't addressing them.

i was tired and didn't feel like i'd be able to get a satisfactory understanding of the lynch in 20 minutes after having never heard DH's name being mentioned in this thread, and my vote was meaningless anyways. i voted for turnip head and left to work on my blade pact warlock's backstory and watch stranger things season 1.

#1607

i didn't know sloonei was playing this game

#1608

sig seems shady as hell

#1609

sig seems at least moderately shady

#1610

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:05 pm I’ll admit it crossed my mind that Luna was the intended bus job and not DH, but that feels ridiculous.

Not ridiculous at all, that's where I've been the last phase lol. DH's handling of his suspicions on her. It's like he knew she was scum for sure, and he was getting irritated 'cause he was banking on getting civ cred with the bus job. Also her handling of the two two close wagon was way different from the first phases when she was tied with civs. I mean she didn't even vote DH to save herself until as a favor to sig.

#1611

Might be onto something, or that's just some confirmation bias stemming from my previous suspicions of her lol

#1612

was colin's first incarnation an indie? his name is purple on the front page, if he was what flavor was he?

i've decided not to read the first few days and watch stranger things season 2 instead, from now on i will never read or write anything longer than a paragraph, it's my 2019 meta

#1613

to you naysayers saying "nay, kyle, that last post was technically 2 paragraphs actually"? how dare you. who do you think you are

#1614

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm was colin's first incarnation an indie? his name is purple on the front page, if he was what flavor was he?

i've decided not to read the first few days and watch stranger things season 2 instead, from now on i will never read or write anything longer than a paragraph, it's my 2019 meta

Does this mean no more flan fiction?

#1615

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:40 pmDoes this mean no more flan fiction?

flan fiction is alwsys an acceptable break from meta

#1616

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm was colin's first incarnation an indie? his name is purple on the front page, if he was what flavor was he?

i've decided not to read the first few days and watch stranger things season 2 instead, from now on i will never read or write anything longer than a paragraph, it's my 2019 meta

Colin is alive. Do you mean ColonialBob?

#1617

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:25 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm was colin's first incarnation an indie? his name is purple on the front page, if he was what flavor was he?

i've decided not to read the first few days and watch stranger things season 2 instead, from now on i will never read or write anything longer than a paragraph, it's my 2019 meta
Colin is alive. Do you mean ColonialBob?

yes, thank you

#1618

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:29 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:25 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm was colin's first incarnation an indie? his name is purple on the front page, if he was what flavor was he?

i've decided not to read the first few days and watch stranger things season 2 instead, from now on i will never read or write anything longer than a paragraph, it's my 2019 meta
Colin is alive. Do you mean ColonialBob?
yes, thank you

This was Bob 1.0's role, it would have added a fun element to the game:

Image
The Captain of the Yun Qui: Jayne Cobb
You are a smuggler, and you work for the highest bidder. Your ship has a fine crew, technology, weapons, and things people want. Starting Day 0, you will offer a good or service to place up for bid (you and I can work on what these are). During the Night phases, everyone may submit offers to you through the Host. The offers can be anything, but they are binding if you accept them. During the first 24 hours of the next Day phase, you will choose the offer you like best and the winning party will be notified. During the second 24 hours of that same phase, you will work on your next offer.
For you to win, the number of deals you make must outnumber the living at endgame.

#1619

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:06 pm DH getting votes "for no reason" is something DH said himself repeatedly, so there may have been a consensus in the baddie chatroom that they didn't understand the logic of the suspicion against him. In this way, I think Elo looks mafia.

Oh I didn't think about that TH, good point.

#1620

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:29 pm Inb4 Juliets is DH's teammate and Mac really did nail the whole team

only one way to find out!

#1621

Locking up for the Night...

#1622

Night 3: Bitter Sweet Symphony

It was a Bitter Sweet Symphony quindeed.

The sorcerer responsible for the enchanted objects and the chaos they orchestrated was gone, but in his wake were still evil beings out for murderous conquest.

Despite all this, one fellow couldn’t help himself: He had to pull out his phone and see how his lineup was doing.

“Damn it,” he said. “I’ve got Sloonei.” A moment later he was reassured. “No, wait, wait. My opponent has him too.”

He was so engrossed, checking stats and hoping he had an edge, that he failed to see the edge coming his way, an ancient edge that buried itself in his skull.

Turnip Head has been killed.

Spoiler: show

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1623

What a wild role

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1624

TH I'm sad you died but I really hope I was on your list

#1625

That's such a great role

#1626

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:15 pm well that was fun. You all can try to lynch me again tomorrow.

You got it!

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

#1627

nice!!! but how?

#1628

nevermind i misread it :\ rip

#1629

RIP TH, what a cool role you had.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] and [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] which one of you has the wand?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1630

Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)

#1631

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:55 pm nice!!! but how?

Thought you killed a civ?

#1632

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)

The only thing that occurred to me when I saw the role that could have been potentially bad is if he was trying to manipulate us away from the people that were on his list. I just don't know though if that's TH's style.

#1633

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)

it wasn't about the color, i just saw the word "mafia" and got excited

#1634

Speaking of votes for no reason...

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

#1635

That thing I said to do ... yeah, somebody do it.

#1636

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:20 pm That thing I said to do ... yeah, somebody do it.

what

#1637

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)
The only thing that occurred to me when I saw the role that could have been potentially bad is if he was trying to manipulate us away from the people that were on his list. I just don't know though if that's TH's style.

He'd want people on his list to his survive, so I'm sure he did. However, those could very well be civ.

I'm more interested in how altered was the Draft in this game. Did he pick knowing the roles and affiliations?

#1638

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:27 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)
The only thing that occurred to me when I saw the role that could have been potentially bad is if he was trying to manipulate us away from the people that were on his list. I just don't know though if that's TH's style.
He'd want people on his list to his survive, so I'm sure he did. However, those could very well be civ.

I'm more interested in how altered was the Draft in this game. Did he pick knowing the roles and affiliations?

I played the original game and we didn't know the roles and affiliations of the people we picked. Don't have any idea whether that was the case here though.

#1639

While I'm waiting for an answer to my question I think I'll join c-bob for a Jay vote.

#1640

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:30 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:27 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)
The only thing that occurred to me when I saw the role that could have been potentially bad is if he was trying to manipulate us away from the people that were on his list. I just don't know though if that's TH's style.
He'd want people on his list to his survive, so I'm sure he did. However, those could very well be civ.

I'm more interested in how altered was the Draft in this game. Did he pick knowing the roles and affiliations?
I played the original game and we didn't know the roles and affiliations of the people we picked. Don't have any idea whether that was the case here though.

Are you sure about that? I played it too and I remember picking the Mafia and loosing badly

#1641

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:30 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:27 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm Lol kyle purple means 3p so react however you want (though this one didn't sound particularly anti-town or anything)
The only thing that occurred to me when I saw the role that could have been potentially bad is if he was trying to manipulate us away from the people that were on his list. I just don't know though if that's TH's style.
He'd want people on his list to his survive, so I'm sure he did. However, those could very well be civ.

I'm more interested in how altered was the Draft in this game. Did he pick knowing the roles and affiliations?
I played the original game and we didn't know the roles and affiliations of the people we picked. Don't have any idea whether that was the case here though.
Are you sure about that? I played it too and I remember picking the Mafia and loosing badly

Hmmm am I misremembering? I'll check the game in the morning, I'm tired and my brain could just be foggy. Also, I'm off to bed!

#1642

RIP Turnip, but that was a super cool role.

#1643

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:56 pm RIP TH, what a cool role you had.

@Lunalee and @JaggedJimmyJay which one of you has the wand?

I received the wand. Why do you ask?

#1644

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:32 pm While I'm waiting for an answer to my question I think I'll join c-bob for a Jay vote.

I do not think, I merely vote

#1645

is it jay because he's letters?

#1646

Hey guys Luna is town

another mystery solved

#1647

Bye TH, I assume he can still win based on his role description? If so, good luck

I tried reading DFS and I got through 3 pages of fluff and gave up. Based on THs night post, I get the impression he just picked players,not affiliations. I am not sure how it would have worked in the original game, but I know my role was simplified a bit (something in the original role was left out) so I am sure other roles could have been modified here as well.

I am still working with the one team hypothesis (although two teams or anything really is *possible* in a totally closed game; I just think it is improbable that we have two teams, but I will not take anything completely off the table) and that would indicate Luna is not bad.

But she looks so different to me than she did in Asunder, there I learned that she is aggressive and an active formulater of suspects as a civ, and that is not what I saw here. So I can't completely let go of her, but she is a very back burner suspect for me for sure.

When DH was being lynched, I thought his posts sounded very sincere, and in retrospect they were, based on a thought someone up there (TH, actually, I think) ^^ had that he was prolly in his chat with his team and they did not grasp why he was being lynched. So DH was basically railing at how unfair it was more than anything. Very DH of him.

Going to look at some interactions between a few people today.

#1648

RIP TH, very cool role.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:08 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:06 pm DH getting votes "for no reason" is something DH said himself repeatedly, so there may have been a consensus in the baddie chatroom that they didn't understand the logic of the suspicion against him. In this way, I think Elo looks mafia.
Oh I didn't think about that TH, good point.

I am not mafia and I still don't understand the DH votes even though I am glad you guys got him. I just don't understand why someone wasn't nice enough to explain it to me. And I would not kill TH this early in a game. I like him too much. That has to be a set up. Since he is suspecting me, mafia thinks if they kill him, you all will look at me. Why would I do that. Why would I go after the guy who suspects me so you will all look at me. When I am mafia, I try to kill as random as possible so no one can trace the kill. Derp, people.

#1649

Oh, and I have a favor to ask of everyone. Please list your top two suspects in the thread.

#1650

Anybody got tinfoil vibes on colonialbob?

Who?