Cards Against Humanity [GAME OVER]

[reywaS]

I voted jjohns2jj. I can't condemn llama based entirely on the "only a baddie has a lynch stop" because I think boo wouldn't make it that simple. Of the two, I find jj suspicious based on what he's said, and I can't say that about llama.

[Epignosis]

If I die today, I would advice you guys to look for late voters for me as potential baddies.

Okay.

I'm voting llama.

[Marmot]

That leaves myself, Elohcin, BWT, and Sorsha.

Well, I'm also voting llama.

[Epignosis]

Daddy, why is mommy crying?

Poll ended at Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:13 pm

Dom
0
No votes

Epignosis
0
No votes

Elohcin
2
S~V~S (13), Sorsha (17)
12%

SVS
0
No votes

Bass
0
No votes

kneel4justice
0
No votes

MR
0
No votes

johns2jj
6
Dom (4), insertnamehere (6), Flyin' High (7), thellama73 (8), AceofSpaces (10), reywaS (14)
35%

Sorsha
0
No votes

INH
0
No votes

DH
0
No votes

FH
0
No votes

Ace
0
No votes

BWT
0
No votes

llama
8
johns2jj (2), kneel4justice (3), Hedgeowl (5), Mister Rearranger (9), DharmaHelper (11), Bass_the_Clever (12), Epignosis (15), Metalmarsh89 (16)
47%

Rey
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

Doin' it in the butt (Host/deads/nons)
1
boo (1)
6%


Total votes : 17

[Sorsha]

Sorry I missed it.. I'm having phone or internet troubles (haven't figured it out yet) I would have voted john but I'm ok with llama too.

[boo]

Day 2 End: They Damn Fools

Poor john, surrounded by damn fools. Lynching him like the nubs they are.

Elsewhere, a discussion about why mommy was crying was taking place. The believed causes were:

The folly of man, Piece of shit Christmas cards with no money in them, Ryan Gosling riding in on a white horse, A brain tumor, The primal, ball-slapping sex your parents are having right now, An interracial handshake, Dental dams, A hot mess, Raptor Jesus, Adderall, A stray pube, Daddy issues, Uncontrollably retching at the mere mention of mayonnaise, Crippling debt.

Now, let’s play a game.

In three words, make me, and the rest of the thread, cringe. Post your submission in thread. If you find someone elses especially cringeworthy, quote it and give them a +1. The top cringe-inducing three words get a prize.

john has been lynched. He was a civvie. Thanks for playing john!
It is now Night 2. You have 24 hours to get PMs in.

New white cards and powers for civvies who sent in white cards for this period are going out shortly.

[Flyin' High]

Gonna have to take another look at roles to see how that could have happened. And damn, RIP john. Sorry to have been wrong.

[Marmot]

Bloody vagina fart...

[Marmot]

Gonna have to take another look at roles to see how that could have happened. And damn, RIP john. Sorry to have been wrong.

There seem to be a couple mafia roles that allow for such a thing to happen.

[Epignosis]

Bleeding hemorrhoids. Khakis.

[S~V~S]

Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.

You're not Elohcin.

Aw crap, i am sorry. Big fingers, small phone screen.

And poor john

[S~V~S]

Also i am ready to be totally present here, hallelujah.

[reywaS]

Bloody vagina fart...

eww

[reywaS]

licking genital warts

[Dom]

However, it introduced a new doubt: That DharmaHelper is lying about it being a tie. It wouldn't be the first time he invented a story to manipulate people.

He was an independent last time he did that, in Lost. What do you think this time around?

[Dom]

I panicked and randomized between llama and Sorsha and from reading back and reading the most recent comments of the two I'm starting to think my random pick screwed up :P

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

I know I voted JJ, but this post especially acting like we're far into the game, make me eye you.

[DharmaHelper]

I panicked and randomized between llama and Sorsha and from reading back and reading the most recent comments of the two I'm starting to think my random pick screwed up :P

I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

I know I voted JJ, but this post especially acting like we're far into the game, make me eye you.

[DharmaHelper]

President Justin Bieber.

[birdwithteeth11]

Sorry I missed the vote! I've been busy today (and on an off-day too, go figure) and just now got a chance to check in.

Moist fondled chunks.

I think it combines creepy, gross, and mysterious all into one neat little package.

[Mister Rearranger]

3 words:

Chris Christie naked

[Elohcin]

I am sorry I missed the vote. I was on a field trip with my kids and looked at the end time without signing in so I had the wrong time. But...I think I can make it up to you by making you all cringe.

Coprophagia during sex!

[Epignosis]

I am sorry I missed the vote. I was on a field trip with my kids and looked at the end time without signing in so I had the wrong time. But...I think I can make it up to you by making you all cringe.

Coprophagia during sex!

Glad to know my children have a mother who think about these things.



+1

[Elohcin]

I am sorry I missed the vote. I was on a field trip with my kids and looked at the end time without signing in so I had the wrong time. But...I think I can make it up to you by making you all cringe.

Coprophagia during sex!

Glad to know my children have a mother who think about these things.



+1

I learned from the best. Remember how innocent I was when you met me?

[Epignosis]

I didn't teach you none of that shit. Hell. No. Dayum.

[insertnamehere]

Get a room, you two.

[kneel4justice]

OMG. Llama should be double dead!

[thellama73]

OMG. Llama should be double dead!

That is a normative statement and outside the scope of positive economics.

[Hedgeowl]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

[AceofSpaces]

Shit. That sucks. R.I.P John. Your day one voting really threw me off. Very sorry I was wrong.

Eyeball Squirting Pus

[S~V~S]

Biting maggoty corpse

kissing bloated roadkill

Poor John

[kneel4justice]

OMG. Llama should be double dead!

That is a normative statement and outside the scope of positive economics.

omg?

[Dom]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I'm confused.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?

[kneel4justice]

Jeez 24 hour phases are a pain. Tomorrow afternoon I will do my best to read what I have missed. I really do not like all the votes for JJ, and not because he came out for civ. I honestly cannot understand why people are opposed to lynching Llama. Hopefully I find some explanations in there. I just don't understand it, please someone share with me how you feel he is a civ? I do want input to take under consideration but it had seemed to me people were just voting others to not vote Llama and that I don't understand (at least w/the Sorsha vote they seemed to be).

[Hedgeowl]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I'm confused.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?

Llama appeared to be the lynch candidate day 1, but according to DH it was a tie and he choose llama, who still didnt die. So not only were there vote shenanigans to save llama, he also survived. With only two roles taint and the hog and both bad that could have survived this is a big flag. Then he once again appears to have the most votes, but didnt and John is lynched instead, so yes someone is working to save llama and aint no civ I bet.

Linki - k4j a baddie "feels" their teamie is civ up until they are lynched. Amirite?

[reywaS]

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I based my vote off of jj and llama's posts. It seemed too easy to just say that llama wasn't lynched=bad. If I was wrong, then I was wrong.

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I'm confused.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?

Yes, I would also like some clarification here. I don't think llama "survived" another lynch. That would require a lynch SWITCH, correct? jj was lynched rather than no one.

linki

[Hedgeowl]

Dom and reywaS you are both reading realy bad to me right now.

It seems very clear to me, so I am not sure why it isnt. Does my above explanation help?

Llama should have died twice, he did not, so why? Why did he not die when he had the most votes? Because other baddies who have vote manipulation power were protecting him day 1 and 2 and then if DH broke a tie Llama "survived" a lynch. How is this hard to understand? Please someone else jump in and tell me I am not crazy.

[Hedgeowl]

Ok, rereading your comment reywaS, no llama did not "survive" day 2 lynch, but he had the most votes and yet wasnt lynch, so someone appears to be protecting him.

[reywaS]

I get it. I thought you were trying to say that he survived another lynch.

[thellama73]

Ok, rereading your comment reywaS, no llama did not "survive" day 2 lynch, but he had the most votes and yet wasnt lynch, so someone appears to be protecting him.

It's probably DH, my best buddy.

[DharmaHelper]

Though probably not.

[Sorsha]

rip john... someone having extra votes again?


oozing scrotum pustule

[Bass_the_Clever]

Bums Fucking Sheep

[Dom]

Jeez 24 hour phases are a pain. Tomorrow afternoon I will do my best to read what I have missed. I really do not like all the votes for JJ, and not because he came out for civ. I honestly cannot understand why people are opposed to lynching Llama. Hopefully I find some explanations in there. I just don't understand it, please someone share with me how you feel he is a civ? I do want input to take under consideration but it had seemed to me people were just voting others to not vote Llama and that I don't understand (at least w/the Sorsha vote they seemed to be).

I do not, especially after the last lynch, feel llama is likely to be civvie. I am questioning why Hedgeowl seems to be tilting facts. I'm confused as to what she is saying. It seems to be that she is saying he was lynched twice. He was not.

I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I'm confused.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?

Llama appeared to be the lynch candidate day 1, but according to DH it was a tie and he choose llama, who still didnt die. So not only were there vote shenanigans to save llama, he also survived. With only two roles taint and the hog and both bad that could have survived this is a big flag. Then he once again appears to have the most votes, but didnt and John is lynched instead, so yes someone is working to save llama and aint no civ I bet.

Linki - k4j a baddie "feels" their teamie is civ up until they are lynched. Amirite?

OK, so you are NOT saying llama was lynched twice? That's where my confusion is stemming from.

Dom and reywaS you are both reading realy bad to me right now.

It seems very clear to me, so I am not sure why it isnt. Does my above explanation help?

Llama should have died twice, he did not, so why? Why did he not die when he had the most votes? Because other baddies who have vote manipulation power were protecting him day 1 and 2 and then if DH broke a tie Llama "survived" a lynch. How is this hard to understand? Please someone else jump in and tell me I am not crazy.

I think we're having a misunderstanding, Hedge.

Gangrene mutilated flesh

[johns2jj]

I shall keep in mind next time that honest active participation is bad no matter your affiliation.

[FZ.]

I shall keep in mind next time that honest active participation is bad no matter your affiliation.

I hear you. I make that freaking mistake every game. Though honestly, I can't do it any other way

[insertnamehere]

oozing scrotum pustule

That's...what....she......said?

[Flyin' High]

I voted john because I honestly wasn't getting civvie vibes from him. My vote had nothing to do with llama. I was pinged by john's Day 1 comments and still felt those pings Day 2. Being wrong is a real bitch, but unfortunately it happens in mafia.

As for llama, at this point it is definitely looking more like he does have a team that is helping him. But before I jump to 100% conclusions, I want to read through the roles to look at all of the possibilities.

A) The lynch was a tie according to DH:
The final vote tally on the poll was 3 Sorsha v. 4 llama
So for it to be a tie, someone had to put a 4th vote on Sorsha
As far as I can tell, the only extra vote available was the penis envy prize
So assuming no unwritten game secrets, whoever won that prize put it on Sorsha

B) DH broke the tie in favor of lynching llama and llama survived
No civvie roles had been assigned yet so his survival was either to do unknown unwritten game secrets or being part of a mafia team
Possible roles that could survive a lynch are:
Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.

The taint; the grundle; the fleshy fun-bridge: You’re stuck between the dick and the asshole. No one wants to join you, so you’ll survive the first attempt on your life. Once in the game, you may pick 5 players, and force them to discuss what they call this area of the human body, making their votes worth 0, or roleblocking them if used at night. If you use it during a lynch, it cannot be used in conjunction with the one time ability of Pixelated Bukkake.

Or maybe the indy role since we have no clue what their powers may be?
The Balancer: SECRET ROLE

Occam's Razor does seem to point to llama being bad based on surviving Day 1.

C) llama had 8 votes to john's 6 votes in the Day 2 poll, but john ended up lynched
Possible explanations include:
Someone used the lynch switch Day 2
Switcher (Passive): One lynch switch. You do not get other powers until this has been used. You may not opt out of having this power. The player you switch the lynch to must have at least 1 public vote.

The person with the stacked deck happened to pick cards that john had raising the votes he started with (this is highly unlikely because they'd have to have picked 3 cards john had and chances of that seem slim to none)
Stacked Deck (Passive): You may trade in any amount of your white cards, for other white cards of your choice. If another player has the white card(s) you choose, you will get a different card, and that player or players will start the following lynch with +1 vote for every card you picked that they hold. You may get other powers while holding this card. You may opt out of having this power, allowing someone else to get it. If you are killed why you hold this card, it automatically transfers to a random player you could not have won with.

Perhaps the thief attempted to steal an awesome point from john knowing he didn't have any which made him start at +2 votes, but this would have resulted in a tie and no one has mentioned there being another tie
Thief: You may pick another player, and steal 1 Awesome Point from them. If they have no Awesome Points, they start the next lynch at +2 votes.

The midgets and the smegma targeted john Night 1 (but again, like with the thief this would have resulted in a tie, not john straight up getting lynched so I find this unlikely)
Two midgets shitting into a bucket: Each night, you may pick another player to empty your bucket of shit on to. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your bucket dumped on them.
Smegma: Each night, you may share your... dirt with another player. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your dirt shared with them.

The explanation I find the most likely is that the Pixelated Bukkake voted for john
Pixelated Bukkake: Once in the game, you may pick up to half of all currently living players, and force them to vote for a player of your choice. Your lynch vote is worth 2, and every player you do not have BTSC with who votes for the same player you do has .5 added to their vote total (to a maximum of 3 extra votes on the person, or 6 people voting for them). This +.5 does not occur during the lynch you force votes. Kill on even nights.

My current thinking is this: I think thellama is the Taint. (when am I ever gonna get to say that again!? ) He survived Day 1 due to his role. Day 2 the Pixelated Bukkake + llamataint voted for john. The other two teammates voted elsewhere.

The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama yesterday.

If this is what happened, then llama should be vulnerable tomorrow since the taint can only survive one lynch.

With all of this in mind, a possible alternative explanation for Day 1 is that llama and two of his teammates (one of which is the Pixelated Bukkake) voted for Sorsha which caused the tie.

[Flyin' High]

Day 1 Poll:


Day 2 Poll:

[Hedgeowl]

I voted john because I honestly wasn't getting civvie vibes from him. My vote had nothing to do with llama. I was pinged by john's Day 1 comments and still felt those pings Day 2. Being wrong is a real bitch, but unfortunately it happens in mafia.

As for llama, at this point it is definitely looking more like he does have a team that is helping him. But before I jump to 100% conclusions, I want to read through the roles to look at all of the possibilities.

A) The lynch was a tie according to DH:
The final vote tally on the poll was 3 Sorsha v. 4 llama
So for it to be a tie, someone had to put a 4th vote on Sorsha
As far as I can tell, the only extra vote available was the penis envy prize
So assuming no unwritten game secrets, whoever won that prize put it on Sorsha

B) DH broke the tie in favor of lynching llama and llama survived
No civvie roles had been assigned yet so his survival was either to do unknown unwritten game secrets or being part of a mafia team
Possible roles that could survive a lynch are:
Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.

The taint; the grundle; the fleshy fun-bridge: You’re stuck between the dick and the asshole. No one wants to join you, so you’ll survive the first attempt on your life. Once in the game, you may pick 5 players, and force them to discuss what they call this area of the human body, making their votes worth 0, or roleblocking them if used at night. If you use it during a lynch, it cannot be used in conjunction with the one time ability of Pixelated Bukkake.

Or maybe the indy role since we have no clue what their powers may be?
The Balancer: SECRET ROLE

Occam's Razor does seem to point to llama being bad based on surviving Day 1.

C) llama had 8 votes to john's 6 votes in the Day 2 poll, but john ended up lynched
Possible explanations include:
Someone used the lynch switch Day 2
Switcher (Passive): One lynch switch. You do not get other powers until this has been used. You may not opt out of having this power. The player you switch the lynch to must have at least 1 public vote.

The person with the stacked deck happened to pick cards that john had raising the votes he started with (this is highly unlikely because they'd have to have picked 3 cards john had and chances of that seem slim to none)
Stacked Deck (Passive): You may trade in any amount of your white cards, for other white cards of your choice. If another player has the white card(s) you choose, you will get a different card, and that player or players will start the following lynch with +1 vote for every card you picked that they hold. You may get other powers while holding this card. You may opt out of having this power, allowing someone else to get it. If you are killed why you hold this card, it automatically transfers to a random player you could not have won with.

Perhaps the thief attempted to steal an awesome point from john knowing he didn't have any which made him start at +2 votes, but this would have resulted in a tie and no one has mentioned there being another tie
Thief: You may pick another player, and steal 1 Awesome Point from them. If they have no Awesome Points, they start the next lynch at +2 votes.

The midgets and the smegma targeted john Night 1 (but again, like with the thief this would have resulted in a tie, not john straight up getting lynched so I find this unlikely)
Two midgets shitting into a bucket: Each night, you may pick another player to empty your bucket of shit on to. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your bucket dumped on them.
Smegma: Each night, you may share your... dirt with another player. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your dirt shared with them.

The explanation I find the most likely is that the Pixelated Bukkake voted for john
Pixelated Bukkake: Once in the game, you may pick up to half of all currently living players, and force them to vote for a player of your choice. Your lynch vote is worth 2, and every player you do not have BTSC with who votes for the same player you do has .5 added to their vote total (to a maximum of 3 extra votes on the person, or 6 people voting for them). This +.5 does not occur during the lynch you force votes. Kill on even nights.

My current thinking is this: I think thellama is the Taint. (when am I ever gonna get to say that again!? ) He survived Day 1 due to his role. Day 2 the Pixelated Bukkake + llamataint voted for john. The other two teammates voted elsewhere.

The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama yesterday.

If this is what happened, then llama should be vulnerable tomorrow since the taint can only survive one lynch.

With all of this in mind, a possible alternative explanation for Day 1 is that llama and two of his teammates (one of which is the Pixelated Bukkake) voted for Sorsha which caused the tie.

Yes. Thank you. This is it right here.

[Marmot]

I voted john because I honestly wasn't getting civvie vibes from him. My vote had nothing to do with llama. I was pinged by john's Day 1 comments and still felt those pings Day 2. Being wrong is a real bitch, but unfortunately it happens in mafia.

As for llama, at this point it is definitely looking more like he does have a team that is helping him. But before I jump to 100% conclusions, I want to read through the roles to look at all of the possibilities.

A) The lynch was a tie according to DH:
The final vote tally on the poll was 3 Sorsha v. 4 llama
So for it to be a tie, someone had to put a 4th vote on Sorsha
As far as I can tell, the only extra vote available was the penis envy prize
So assuming no unwritten game secrets, whoever won that prize put it on Sorsha

B) DH broke the tie in favor of lynching llama and llama survived
No civvie roles had been assigned yet so his survival was either to do unknown unwritten game secrets or being part of a mafia team
Possible roles that could survive a lynch are:
Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.

The taint; the grundle; the fleshy fun-bridge: You’re stuck between the dick and the asshole. No one wants to join you, so you’ll survive the first attempt on your life. Once in the game, you may pick 5 players, and force them to discuss what they call this area of the human body, making their votes worth 0, or roleblocking them if used at night. If you use it during a lynch, it cannot be used in conjunction with the one time ability of Pixelated Bukkake.

Or maybe the indy role since we have no clue what their powers may be?
The Balancer: SECRET ROLE

Occam's Razor does seem to point to llama being bad based on surviving Day 1.

C) llama had 8 votes to john's 6 votes in the Day 2 poll, but john ended up lynched
Possible explanations include:
Someone used the lynch switch Day 2
Switcher (Passive): One lynch switch. You do not get other powers until this has been used. You may not opt out of having this power. The player you switch the lynch to must have at least 1 public vote.

The person with the stacked deck happened to pick cards that john had raising the votes he started with (this is highly unlikely because they'd have to have picked 3 cards john had and chances of that seem slim to none)
Stacked Deck (Passive): You may trade in any amount of your white cards, for other white cards of your choice. If another player has the white card(s) you choose, you will get a different card, and that player or players will start the following lynch with +1 vote for every card you picked that they hold. You may get other powers while holding this card. You may opt out of having this power, allowing someone else to get it. If you are killed why you hold this card, it automatically transfers to a random player you could not have won with.

Perhaps the thief attempted to steal an awesome point from john knowing he didn't have any which made him start at +2 votes, but this would have resulted in a tie and no one has mentioned there being another tie
Thief: You may pick another player, and steal 1 Awesome Point from them. If they have no Awesome Points, they start the next lynch at +2 votes.

The midgets and the smegma targeted john Night 1 (but again, like with the thief this would have resulted in a tie, not john straight up getting lynched so I find this unlikely)
Two midgets shitting into a bucket: Each night, you may pick another player to empty your bucket of shit on to. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your bucket dumped on them.
Smegma: Each night, you may share your... dirt with another player. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your dirt shared with them.

The explanation I find the most likely is that the Pixelated Bukkake voted for john
Pixelated Bukkake: Once in the game, you may pick up to half of all currently living players, and force them to vote for a player of your choice. Your lynch vote is worth 2, and every player you do not have BTSC with who votes for the same player you do has .5 added to their vote total (to a maximum of 3 extra votes on the person, or 6 people voting for them). This +.5 does not occur during the lynch you force votes. Kill on even nights.

My current thinking is this: I think thellama is the Taint. (when am I ever gonna get to say that again!? ) He survived Day 1 due to his role. Day 2 the Pixelated Bukkake + llamataint voted for john. The other two teammates voted elsewhere.

The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama yesterday.

If this is what happened, then llama should be vulnerable tomorrow since the taint can only survive one lynch.

With all of this in mind, a possible alternative explanation for Day 1 is that llama and two of his teammates (one of which is the Pixelated Bukkake) voted for Sorsha which caused the tie.

Also let it be known that there was no tie on D2, or at least I was not asked to decide a tie. I'll go ahead and inform you guys of that now instead of 5 hours before tomorrow's vote deadline.