It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia [END]

[novaselinenever]

Nada on MP and Speed

[Sloonei]

These are our possible setups:


Assuming standard lynch/nightkill progressions, we have 2 mislynched available to us (8 vs 2 -> 6 vs 2 -> 4 vs 2 -> 2 vs 2, game over). The only civilian role which could prevent a nightkill on here is the doctor, which is only available in scenarios 2 & B. It will be safest to assume that there will be no nightkill preventions and to operate under the assumption that we only have 2 mislynched all game. The faster we can POE our way through this game, the better.

[mention]juliets[/mention] You’ve asked a good amount of questions by this point. Have you started piecing them together for reads yet?

[Sloonei]

That post wasn’t directed at juliets, I just had a semi-related question for her at the end.

[ColinIsCool]

i dunno guys, when i vote for someone, i usually have interest in them getting lynched especially when accompanied with rationale. but maybe i'm just mafiaing wrong. i'ma try it your way.

[VOTE: novaselinelover] aubergine

There are plenty of reasons to vote for someone at an early stage in Day 1 that don’t amount to “I want to lynch you.” Gtfo with this

Applying pressure? Testing their reaction? Shits and giggles?

This ain’t my first rodeo folks and I know it ain’t y’alls either.

[Sloonei]

The following players are in my town pile right now:
nova
dunya
Luna
Mac

While it’s too early to definitively remove anybody from my POE, if I work with that grouping then I’m dealing with the following pool of suspects:
Colin
juliets
Mongoose
MP
speedchuck

Three of those are mostly null reads. Mongoose has promised to catch up this afternoon and I look forward to hearing from her.

Colin has appeared in the thread, but his posts have mostly focused on dunya. I’d like to know what he thinks of everybody else now. [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]

[ColinIsCool]

ColinIsCool — obvs fucking town
dunya — prob town
juliets — prob town
Lunalee — lean town
M Plus 7 — null, nothing, should be grilled if around
MacDougall — close to null, should be grilled
Mongoose — read authentic town earlier, but should be grilled
novaselinenever — read authentic town earlier but that Frank post is BS
Sloonei — town but I’m anti-authority
speedchuck — bye

[ColinIsCool]

I’d lynch anybody tbh. I’m a big lynch hoor

[novaselinenever]

i dunno guys, when i vote for someone, i usually have interest in them getting lynched especially when accompanied with rationale. but maybe i'm just mafiaing wrong. i'ma try it your way.

[VOTE: novaselinelover] aubergine

There are plenty of reasons to vote for someone at an early stage in Day 1 that don’t amount to “I want to lynch you.” Gtfo with this

Applying pressure? Testing their reaction? Shits and giggles?

This ain’t my first rodeo folks and I know it ain’t y’alls either.

Those are all fair. The "nope" is geared towards your "I was pinged, voted you up but had no intention to lynching you" response to Dunya's concern about your town read on her and the difference between this game and the community one.

[novaselinenever]

It's weak stuff.

[Sloonei]

ColinIsCool — obvs fucking town
dunya — prob town
juliets — prob town
Lunalee — lean town
M Plus 7 — null, nothing, should be grilled if around
MacDougall — close to null, should be grilled
Mongoose — read authentic town earlier, but should be grilled
novaselinenever — read authentic town earlier but that Frank post is BS
Sloonei — town but I’m anti-authority
speedchuck — bye

Talk to me about luna and mac.

I notice you’ve called exactly 0 people had here. Why?

[ColinIsCool]

Because I can’t remember anything noteworthy that most of the people here have done, but from those that I can, none of it is pingy.

[ColinIsCool]

It's weak stuff.

I’m bad at Mafia

[Sloonei]

Because I can’t remember anything noteworthy that most of the people here have done, but from those that I can, none of it is pingy.

What good things have luna and juliets done? Why is mac null? His ISO isn’t long, but there’s stuff there.

[juliets]

These are our possible setups:


Assuming standard lynch/nightkill progressions, we have 2 mislynched available to us (8 vs 2 -> 6 vs 2 -> 4 vs 2 -> 2 vs 2, game over). The only civilian role which could prevent a nightkill on here is the doctor, which is only available in scenarios 2 & B. It will be safest to assume that there will be no nightkill preventions and to operate under the assumption that we only have 2 mislynched all game. The faster we can POE our way through this game, the better.

@juliets You’ve asked a good amount of questions by this point. Have you started piecing them together for reads yet?

I'm ready to put dunya in my town basket based on what I've seen so far. I like how she compares to her U-Pick self. Mac is off the table for this lynch for me. dunya knows his game well and she is calling him town, and I'm town reading her. I believe he is posting a little less than usual because of his real life situation. I believe Mongoose when she says she forgot the game so even though she hasn't shown us a lot of behavior I find her post about that authentic. I don't think she would forget the game if she was bad so I'm town reading her. So, my town reads so far are:

dunya
Mac
Mongoose
Sloonei

That leaves:
Colin
speed
Luna*
MP
Nova
that I'm not ready to rule out yet.

* Luna always looks bad to me. I have to find better ways to differentiate bad Luna from good Luna, but since I can't rule her out at this point she stays in my POE.

Mechanics question: can someone help me on how to read the matrix? Am I looking at A, B, or C as the possibilities or 1, 2, or 3?

[Sloonei]

A, B, C, 1, 2, & 3 are all possibilities on the matrix. Any row or column could be the setup.

[Sloonei]

Why is nova a suspect?

[juliets]

Why is nova a suspect?

I didn't like his post about Mac "emulating" supatown Mac and his explanation didn't hold water for me. I also don't know what he's talking about re: my behavior in World Asunder. I was asking questions early on in that game, nothing anyone said changed my behavior. I also didn't like this post:

Third time's the charm?

Appeal to history? Appeal to emotions?

Not a good look madam

Mongoose's comment "Third time's the charm" sounds just like something she would say. It's talking about her history here since she's been back. I don't think it's a bad look at all and it seems like he's nitpicking.

So, all that keep him in my POE for now.

[Sloonei]

I was the first one to draw a connection between your behavior here and your behavior in A World Asunder. Why is it a bad look for nova but not a bad look for me?

[Mongoose]

no but seriously, i really did feel mongoose's entry was a little more stiff than her previous two.

Do you blame me after the raucous first day I had in Gossip Girl? That was brutalizing.

You got a read on dunya or nova?

Not yet, but I will amend when I do. I've played with them recently, so I could see a cabal thinking "Let's put a little pressure on Mongoose - she will get defensive and act weird and then we can vote her out early." I could also see them just desperate to grab onto any inkling of a ping on Day 0/Day 1 like we all are.

linki - Calibrating my playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia seems not only sensible but prudent. I'd expect anyone to do the same after playing one short game and literally one day period of another. My old style, which you would be unfamiliar with, seems a little antiquated for this new mafia landscape. It's more different than I could have ever realized.

I did not/am not playing Gossip Girl. From your perspective, why were you lynched there?

How was the syndicate’s mafia landscape changed from what you are familiar with, and what changes in your own strategy has that brought you to?

Sloonei: Since it was Day 1, it’s hard to pinpoint one thing or attribute to a gaffe or anything of that nature. Day 1 nonsense fueled by folks not knowing me in this arena. I acted pretty much like I always did, if that tell you anything.

It’s even harder to articulate how it’s different. The vibe feels different. I didn’t follow the game afterward much, so that might have been helpful to answer this question.

[Mongoose]

no but seriously, i really did feel mongoose's entry was a little more stiff than her previous two.

Do you blame me after the raucous first day I had in Gossip Girl? That was brutalizing.

You got a read on dunya or nova?

Not yet, but I will amend when I do. I've played with them recently, so I could see a cabal thinking "Let's put a little pressure on Mongoose - she will get defensive and act weird and then we can vote her out early." I could also see them just desperate to grab onto any inkling of a ping on Day 0/Day 1 like we all are.

linki - Calibrating my playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia seems not only sensible but prudent. I'd expect anyone to do the same after playing one short game and literally one day period of another. My old style, which you would be unfamiliar with, seems a little antiquated for this new mafia landscape. It's more different than I could have ever realized.

Mongoose, don't feel like you have to change. As dunia said, everybody's style is different. I can't name people on day 0 who look bad or good after one post like Jay, dunia and Mac can do - no way. Be your normal wonderful self.

Thanks, we shall see how it goes!

[juliets]

I was the first one to draw a connection between your behavior here and your behavior in A World Asunder. Why is it a bad look for nova but not a bad look for me?

I didn't remember that you did. I'll reassess you with that in mind in a bit.

[ColinIsCool]

Because I can’t remember anything noteworthy that most of the people here have done, but from those that I can, none of it is pingy.

What good things have luna and juliets done? Why is mac null? His ISO isn’t long, but there’s stuff there.

I think juliets reaction under pressure looked good. I think Luna’s hunting ideas look authentic. I can’t think of a single thing offhand Mac has done except coming in here and throwing reads out (NAI) and I think he called me town.

[Mongoose]

Mac has immediately scum read me in every game we’ve played together for the last year.

Same tbh, I just figured that was his style.

[Mongoose]

no but seriously, i really did feel mongoose's entry was a little more stiff than her previous two.

Do you blame me after the raucous first day I had in Gossip Girl? That was brutalizing.

You got a read on dunya or nova?

Not yet, but I will amend when I do. I've played with them recently, so I could see a cabal thinking "Let's put a little pressure on Mongoose - she will get defensive and act weird and then we can vote her out early." I could also see them just desperate to grab onto any inkling of a ping on Day 0/Day 1 like we all are.

linki - Calibrating my playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia seems not only sensible but prudent. I'd expect anyone to do the same after playing one short game and literally one day period of another. My old style, which you would be unfamiliar with, seems a little antiquated for this new mafia landscape. It's more different than I could have ever realized.

I did not/am not playing Gossip Girl. From your perspective, why were you lynched there?

How was the syndicate’s mafia landscape changed from what you are familiar with, and what changes in your own strategy has that brought you to?

Oh also, I posted some items in what I intended to be a courtesy post, and it was interpreted as explanation soup, which I found super odd.

[Mongoose]

I've assigned a letter grade to everyone's early entries into the game. Below you will find our group report card:






Mongoose: C

Third time's the charm?

Mongoose's entry made early waves, and it's not difficult to see why. This entry post definitely stands out for being different in tone, but I don't know if the reasons behind that difference need to be suggestive of badness. I understand that Mongoose was just lynched on Day 1 of her first game back at the Syndicate in a long time. This post, and her response to the criticism against it, all seem like a player who is perhaps frustrated and trying to adjust to the changed environment. I believe her when she says she is "calibrating her playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia"; whether or not that means she's town, I do not know. I give her the benefit of doubt for now. Mongoose could contribute more in class.

Oof, I don’t like making a C and will vow to do better. I’m trying to get completely caught up by vote deadline, but it’s slow going. Can someone confirm that the vote deadline is around 630pm EST? I want to ensure my DST settings are correct.

[Sloonei]

I've assigned a letter grade to everyone's early entries into the game. Below you will find our group report card:






Mongoose: C

Third time's the charm?

Mongoose's entry made early waves, and it's not difficult to see why. This entry post definitely stands out for being different in tone, but I don't know if the reasons behind that difference need to be suggestive of badness. I understand that Mongoose was just lynched on Day 1 of her first game back at the Syndicate in a long time. This post, and her response to the criticism against it, all seem like a player who is perhaps frustrated and trying to adjust to the changed environment. I believe her when she says she is "calibrating her playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia"; whether or not that means she's town, I do not know. I give her the benefit of doubt for now. Mongoose could contribute more in class.

Oof, I don’t like making a C and will vow to do better. I’m trying to get completely caught up by vote deadline, but it’s slow going. Can someone confirm that the vote deadline is around 630pm EST? I want to ensure my DST settings are correct.

The deadline is 6:30 tomorrow. You’ve got plenty of time.

[Lunalee]

Spoiler: show

I've assigned a letter grade to everyone's early entries into the game. Below you will find our group report card:






Mongoose: C

Third time's the charm?

Mongoose's entry made early waves, and it's not difficult to see why. This entry post definitely stands out for being different in tone, but I don't know if the reasons behind that difference need to be suggestive of badness. I understand that Mongoose was just lynched on Day 1 of her first game back at the Syndicate in a long time. This post, and her response to the criticism against it, all seem like a player who is perhaps frustrated and trying to adjust to the changed environment. I believe her when she says she is "calibrating her playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia"; whether or not that means she's town, I do not know. I give her the benefit of doubt for now. Mongoose could contribute more in class.

Oof, I don’t like making a C and will vow to do better. I’m trying to get completely caught up by vote deadline, but it’s slow going. Can someone confirm that the vote deadline is around 630pm EST? I want to ensure my DST settings are correct.

The deadline is 6:30 tomorrow. You’ve got plenty of time.

Oh good, I have time to procrastinate.

[Lunalee]

These are our possible setups:


Assuming standard lynch/nightkill progressions, we have 2 mislynched available to us (8 vs 2 -> 6 vs 2 -> 4 vs 2 -> 2 vs 2, game over). The only civilian role which could prevent a nightkill on here is the doctor, which is only available in scenarios 2 & B. It will be safest to assume that there will be no nightkill preventions and to operate under the assumption that we only have 2 mislynched all game. The faster we can POE our way through this game, the better.

@juliets You’ve asked a good amount of questions by this point. Have you started piecing them together for reads yet?

I'm ready to put dunya in my town basket based on what I've seen so far. I like how she compares to her U-Pick self. Mac is off the table for this lynch for me. dunya knows his game well and she is calling him town, and I'm town reading her. I believe he is posting a little less than usual because of his real life situation. I believe Mongoose when she says she forgot the game so even though she hasn't shown us a lot of behavior I find her post about that authentic. I don't think she would forget the game if she was bad so I'm town reading her. So, my town reads so far are:

dunya
Mac
Mongoose
Sloonei

That leaves:
Colin
speed
Luna*
MP
Nova
that I'm not ready to rule out yet.

* Luna always looks bad to me. I have to find better ways to differentiate bad Luna from good Luna, but since I can't rule her out at this point she stays in my POE.

Mechanics question: can someone help me on how to read the matrix? Am I looking at A, B, or C as the possibilities or 1, 2, or 3?

haha, sorry I always look bad to you! I can't really help it.

[Mongoose]

Sweet Dee is sick of town’s losing streak too. We’re gonna correct it this game, gang. Since nobody’s around to yell any louder than me right now, I’m gonna put myself in charge.

Votes are changeable, as they always are. There is no reason not to put a vote on the poll as soon as possible. We’ve even been given a placeholder option if folks are uncomfortable leaving a dangling vote in the poll. My suggestion is that everybody votes right away. Votes are action, and action is good for town, especially in the early stages of a game. If you don’t vote, you don’t care that Jay is dead.

I voted for Colin because his entry looked like a stiff attempt to be casual and loose.

I am going to put a placeholder vote on the poll now because of this post. I’ll make my official vote known in the poll.

[Mongoose]

I'll have to agree with Dunya also about Luna's read on her. That "Town shines brightly" is funny looking, and it looks like something right out of Jay's eloquent gut reads.

But since Jay can’t be a teammate, what do you think this means? (Ignore this please if you answered it later in the thread, I’ll see it then). Thanks!

[Mongoose]

I'll have to agree with Dunya also about Luna's read on her. That "Town shines brightly" is funny looking, and it looks like something right out of Jay's eloquent gut reads.

But since Jay can’t be a teammate, what do you think this means? (Ignore this please if you answered it later in the thread, I’ll see it then). Thanks!

[Mongoose]

i do think juliets is bad, but i'm not a monster despite what you all think of me. no way would i lynch her day 1.

let's talk about how mongoose is mia today after getting a little heat from me yesterday

[VOTE: Mongoose] aubergine

My job is CRAZAY during legislative session. I had been up since 430, I even took a nap at 6 and then just super chilled the entire evening. Coming here didn’t even cross my mind (Jay, please don’t be offended).

[Mongoose]

I need to start identifying town so I can work my POE. Right now my strongest town read is Sloonei. I liked his post where he gave everyone grades, shows he is approaching the game analytically, and I like the post where he asked everyone to get moving and vote. Voting early is not really my style but he convinced me it was the right thing to do. I won't be putting a vote on Sloonei today unless something big happens to convince me he is bad.

I liked that a lot too. I felt it was brave, as something like this isn’t without its risks.

Trying to catch up as quick as I can.

[Mongoose]

did mongoose forget this game was going on?

Oof, I’ve sure missed these games, but it’s become incredibly clear why I retired (lack of time/energy, etc)

[Sloonei]

Speaking of risk, I have a question for the class: who here had the satest post history in the game? Is there anybody we think seems to be avoiding risks?

I have an answer, but I want to see if anyone agrees with me first.

[Mongoose]

I'd like to hear more from Mongoose, so I'll wait for her to catch up

Thank you! If I missed anyone’s questions for me, please let me know. I tried to reply to anytime I was asked a question or mentioned in more than just passing.

[Sloonei]

I'd like to hear more from Mongoose, so I'll wait for her to catch up

Thank you! If I missed anyone’s questions for me, please let me know. I tried to reply to anytime I was asked a question or mentioned in more than just passing.

You got any first impressions of any of these fine folks in here?

[Mongoose]

I've assigned a letter grade to everyone's early entries into the game. Below you will find our group report card:






Mongoose: C

Third time's the charm?

Mongoose's entry made early waves, and it's not difficult to see why. This entry post definitely stands out for being different in tone, but I don't know if the reasons behind that difference need to be suggestive of badness. I understand that Mongoose was just lynched on Day 1 of her first game back at the Syndicate in a long time. This post, and her response to the criticism against it, all seem like a player who is perhaps frustrated and trying to adjust to the changed environment. I believe her when she says she is "calibrating her playstyle to more suit this new world of mafia"; whether or not that means she's town, I do not know. I give her the benefit of doubt for now. Mongoose could contribute more in class.

Oof, I don’t like making a C and will vow to do better. I’m trying to get completely caught up by vote deadline, but it’s slow going. Can someone confirm that the vote deadline is around 630pm EST? I want to ensure my DST settings are correct.

The deadline is 6:30 tomorrow. You’ve got plenty of time.

Omg are you effing kidding me. Well I didn’t need to draft any documents this afternoon.

Overall thoughts:

Hope MP shows up
Thought Mac’s comment on Dunya’s FU play style was insightful and genuine
Liked The full rundowns folks did (that they did them, not saying I ratify the contents)
Seems like no one can read Luna, and I feel ya girl
Sorry to see speed go
No idea what the Paddy’s Pub mechanic is and didn’t see this in Hall of Fame

[Mongoose]

Speaking of risk, I have a question for the class: who here had the satest post history in the game? Is there anybody we think seems to be avoiding risks?

I have an answer, but I want to see if anyone agrees with me first.

Sloonei, you mean like historically over their career as compared with this game, right?

When MP is present he posts a lot from what I remember. I sometimes post a lot but am not always super chatty. Juliets seems par for the course. Yours seems normal. Not sure on the others.

[Sloonei]

Speaking of risk, I have a question for the class: who here had the satest post history in the game? Is there anybody we think seems to be avoiding risks?

I have an answer, but I want to see if anyone agrees with me first.

Sloonei, you mean like historically over their career as compared with this game, right?

When MP is present he posts a lot from what I remember. I sometimes post a lot but am not always super chatty. Juliets seems par for the course. Yours seems normal. Not sure on the others.

Sorry. I mean the safest posts in this game particularly.

[Mongoose]

I'd like to hear more from Mongoose, so I'll wait for her to catch up

Thank you! If I missed anyone’s questions for me, please let me know. I tried to reply to anytime I was asked a question or mentioned in more than just passing.

You got any first impressions of any of these fine folks in here?

See my post above where I go through a few of these. I was reading this thread as fast as Cruella de Ville drives (so please forgive me if I ask or say something that the record would reflect), but I was kinda shocked to see the Colin vote. If the vote did end tonight instead of tomorrow, would you comfortable leaving it there?

[Mongoose]

Speaking of risk, I have a question for the class: who here had the satest post history in the game? Is there anybody we think seems to be avoiding risks?

I have an answer, but I want to see if anyone agrees with me first.

Sloonei, you mean like historically over their career as compared with this game, right?

When MP is present he posts a lot from what I remember. I sometimes post a lot but am not always super chatty. Juliets seems par for the course. Yours seems normal. Not sure on the others.

Sorry. I mean the safest posts in this game particularly.

I don’t see any safeness for those that are present. I certainly empathize with Mac’s work woes and anyone with a frantic schedule, so I don’t hold that against people. I wanna see more out of Luna Lamb and that errant sock. I read everything over a couple of hours so I felt content was pretty good overall, particularly for Day1A.

[Mongoose]

Speaking of risk, I have a question for the class: who here had the satest post history in the game? Is there anybody we think seems to be avoiding risks?

I have an answer, but I want to see if anyone agrees with me first.

I’m on the edge of my seat to see if you agree with me.

[Mongoose]

Speaking of risk, I have a question for the class: who here had the satest post history in the game? Is there anybody we think seems to be avoiding risks?

I have an answer, but I want to see if anyone agrees with me first.

I’m on the edge of my seat to see if you agree with me.

[Mongoose]

Okay that’s been an overdose of for now. I’m off to a nail appointment and will actually check in later.

[dunya]

juliets is safest imo.

i feel like im tunneling at this point, but there's an uneasy feeling i can't shake.

it's really nice to see you around [mention]Mongoose[/mention], thanks for catching up and sorry life is kicking your butt in.

i have some bad news irl and my posting may be affected while this is resolved, apologies to all, but i'll try my best for town and our host

[Sloonei]

Have we played together before, Mongoose? I know I’ve seen you around the site plenty, but I don’t recall ever actually being in a game together.

And “Paddy’s Pub” is just a reference to the theme. That’s the name of the bar in It’s Always Sunny.

Hella linki

[Mongoose]

[quote=dunya post_id=520753 time=1552424477 user_id=446]
juliets is safest imo.

i feel like im tunneling at this point, but there's an uneasy feeling i can't shake.

it's really nice to see you around @Mongoose, thanks for catching up and sorry life is kicking your butt in.

i have some bad news irl and my posting may be affected while this is resolved, apologies to all, but i'll try my best for town and our [mention]Mongoose[/mention]
I am so sorry to hear this! Hope all is well!

[Mongoose]

Have we played together before, Mongoose? I know I’ve seen you around the site plenty, but I don’t recall ever actually being in a game together.

And “Paddy’s Pub” is just a reference to the theme. That’s the name of the bar in It’s Always Sunny.

Hella linki

I thiiiiiiiiink so but I couldn’t tell you when. Did you used to play on Rev too? Either way it would have been literally three plus years.

[Sloonei]

I’ll answer my own question after a short jog. Don’t touch that dial.