Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:39 am
Nova, why the switch to Soneji?
Severely underwhelmed by his presence in the closing hours of D1. The few reads he have are pretty shallow, and especially the stance on DDL/Dragomir seems particularly contrived.
I meant more why do you not want to lynch JJJ anymore?
@novaselinenever did you respond to this?
I did not. Not feeling like it, liked our exchange earlier and him so far this phase. I believe Soneji looks worse.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm
I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.
For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.
For 2, it's wifom.
For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.
"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.
I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:09 pm
I have no objections to a Soneji lynch, but I moved back to MP as a placeholder.
I just voted Jack. Come back to this wagon. Competing wagons are fun.
What is your grievance? I would consider such a thing.
Does he hasn't really done anything count as a grievance?
Jack is a frequent blind spot for me. I was hoping someone with fresh peepers could come in and tell me what they see. Jack said he's playing multiple games, so I don't doubt that.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:09 pm
I have no objections to a Soneji lynch, but I moved back to MP as a placeholder.
I just voted Jack. Come back to this wagon. Competing wagons are fun.
What is your grievance? I would consider such a thing.
Does he hasn't really done anything count as a grievance?
Jack is a frequent blind spot for me. I was hoping someone with fresh peepers could come in and tell me what they see. Jack said he's playing multiple games, so I don't doubt that.
Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:15 pm
Also can you post a readlist please nova?
Careful. Last person to ask me this got lynched
Please post readlist
Ask me about someone
Scenario: mod confirms for you that there is at least one mafia in {Speed, Lux, Owner, JJJ, Mac, Epig, DDL, Jack}. You have 3 shots, and if you don't hit at least 1 mafia then you lose. Additionally, for every mafia you shoot, the mod will confirm the alignment of a random townie in the grouping. Who do you shoot, and in what order?
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.
Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
I think holding someone accountable for saying Day Zeros are less valuable is a bit pushy, especially considering they in fact are. Now, if someone was using "Wait, I said that D0, it doesn't count!" as a defense, or as a reason to dismiss a case, that is categorically scummy. But outside of that context, there's no apparent scum motive to stating the obvious, other than perhaps appearing blendy.
Reaction posts can also carry a scum motive, so this sounds like TMI on speedchuck
Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:15 pm
Also can you post a readlist please nova?
Careful. Last person to ask me this got lynched
Please post readlist
Ask me about someone
Scenario: mod confirms for you that there is at least one mafia in {Speed, Lux, Owner, JJJ, Mac, Epig, DDL, Jack}. You have 3 shots, and if you don't hit at least 1 mafia then you lose. Additionally, for every mafia you shoot, the mod will confirm the alignment of a random townie in the grouping. Who do you shoot, and in what order?
I'm not shooting these 4 I believe; DDL, Owner, JJJ and Speed
so this pool of 4 will be my targets Lux, Epi, Mac and Jack.
I'll shoot Lux first, then Jack and last probably Epi.
I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
Bingo. Ultra voted JJJ but threw shit at speedchuck.
Should JJJ show to be a civilian, it "proves" Ultra wrong.
I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
I want everyone's opinions on this post when it is convenient.
Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:15 pm
Also can you post a readlist please nova?
Careful. Last person to ask me this got lynched
Please post readlist
Ask me about someone
Scenario: mod confirms for you that there is at least one mafia in {Speed, Lux, Owner, JJJ, Mac, Epig, DDL, Jack}. You have 3 shots, and if you don't hit at least 1 mafia then you lose. Additionally, for every mafia you shoot, the mod will confirm the alignment of a random townie in the grouping. Who do you shoot, and in what order?
I'm not shooting these 4 I believe; DDL, Owner, JJJ and Speed
so this pool of 4 will be my targets Lux, Epi, Mac and Jack.
I'll shoot Lux first, then Jack and last probably Epi.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm
I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.
I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.
If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?
It's a code, not a thought process.
Okay then why did you feel the need to tell everyone your code. I just dont see how you connected those dots to need to post this
You misunderstand.
I don't feel the need to discuss any of that. I do it because if people who know me have any sense, they'll know I'm telling the truth and trust me and encourage others to do the same. It would save everybody a lot of time.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm
I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.
For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.
For 2, it's wifom.
For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.
"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.
I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.
It's a beautiful thing that nobody ever buys, but it's true. I don't ever kill my wife early in games (Elohcin).
I don't lynch or kill JJJ Day 1.
When opposing mafia teams do this, they fuck up and clear me. But that's ironic because people suspect me more. I think that's silly. And it's been a real trend for years.
I do not kill JJJ Day 1. He's too fun to fuck with.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:02 pm
Consider this too:
Killing JJJ Night 1 in this particular setup is a rookie mistake.
If there is a civilian watcher, a civilian tracker, and a civilian jailer, and you know this, then taking a shot at the most active person who just nailed Ultra is not very wise. I would have advised against such a thing myself.
So that directs me to consider who is not wise or not paying attention to the setup.
I only have 2 arguments against this idea: if the killer had enough towncred to not need to worry about being killed or targeted, or if the killer was JJJ
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm
I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.
I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.
If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?
It's a code, not a thought process.
Okay then why did you feel the need to tell everyone your code. I just dont see how you connected those dots to need to post this
You misunderstand.
I don't feel the need to discuss any of that. I do it because if people who know me have any sense, they'll know I'm telling the truth and trust me and encourage others to do the same. It would save everybody a lot of time.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:02 pm
Consider this too:
Killing JJJ Night 1 in this particular setup is a rookie mistake.
If there is a civilian watcher, a civilian tracker, and a civilian jailer, and you know this, then taking a shot at the most active person who just nailed Ultra is not very wise. I would have advised against such a thing myself.
So that directs me to consider who is not wise or not paying attention to the setup.
I only have 2 arguments against this idea: if the killer had enough towncred to not need to worry about being killed or targeted, or if the killer was JJJ
Mafia always kills n1
I'm the most prolific host on this site. I understand the caveats.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm
I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.
For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.
For 2, it's wifom.
For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.
"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.
I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.
[VOTE:
Epi] aubergine
Mac baby what is you doing?
What?
The connection to DDL's wagon. How does Epi wifom-ing that he wouldn't kill Jay on N1 throw us off DDL? Also doing it when the hottest wagon is Soneji.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm
I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.
I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.
If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?
It's a code, not a thought process.
Okay then why did you feel the need to tell everyone your code. I just dont see how you connected those dots to need to post this
You misunderstand.
I don't feel the need to discuss any of that. I do it because if people who know me have any sense, they'll know I'm telling the truth and trust me and encourage others to do the same. It would save everybody a lot of time.
Mac is slow though, so I can't speak for him.
So the point is lost on me I see I see
What was the purpose of your asking me the question then?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm
I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.
For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.
For 2, it's wifom.
For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.
"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.
I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.
[VOTE:
Epi] aubergine
Mac baby what is you doing?
What?
The connection to DDL's wagon. How does Epi wifom-ing that he wouldn't kill Jay on N1 throw us off DDL? Also doing it when the hottest wagon is Soneji.
He also made the point that people familiar with Jay wouldn't take a shot at him n1 in this context while DDL was leading the votes. The reason I realised the intention is because it worked on me initially and got me to move my vote from DDL to Soneji. But fuck being manipulated.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm
I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.
For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.
For 2, it's wifom.
For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.
"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.
I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.
[VOTE:
Epi] aubergine
How does this throw off the DDL wagon? Doesnt voting for Epi also do that??