MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]

[Dragomir]

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

His voting didn't change from day 1 to day 2.

What is this supposed to mean and why does it matter?

Why does it matter to you? It is only one vote on you. I vote and you appear?

Sometimes, scum don't change their vote from day to day, but town with strong reads might do that as well.

Anyways, I need a break. I don't feel like typing much at the moment.

It matters to me because your reasoning is flawed and I want an explanation for why you find that bad.

You acknowledge that this both alignments can do the same thing basically making it NAI, heck you only say it's sometimes that scum do it basically saying that this thing I did is not a particular strong scum tell but with all this you vote for me with that as your reason.

This is bullshit and I seriously wanna scum read you.

You dont have strong reads

What are you talking about? I've been strong on my scum reads through and through.

[Dragomir]

Can you go through the GTH reads and assign each person good/ bad?

The only two reads I remember are RDW and DDL. I also havent seen you post any townreads?

Tyia

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

[Luxurious]

I wanna say one of those was a vig kill and if I find town shot one of them Im gonna be Big Mad

Also during the night i came to the realization that we dont get role flips when people die

Anyway i think mafia got vigilante

I mentioned that we didn't get role flips. The "i'm gonna be Big Mad" bit pings me. I guess I feel like it's fake. Town can make wrong kills too. I don't know if it was town or mafia. Wouldn't mafia try to get rid of bigger threats, then again, figuring out who is actually truly a threat might be a whole other thing entirely.

Like if JaggedJimmyJay was scum for instance, then there might be a push to keep the active players alive so that him still being alive doesn't look as suspicious.

Well okay firstly, Epi kill is stupid from town unless whoever shot him was town reading Dragomir but even then it would have been better to shoot Dragomir because he was a conflicting wagon.

Yes i think it would be better to kill threats which is why i said it was probably a meta kill.

I dont see how killing Epi and Jack, two active talkative players, makes JJJ look less suspicious lol

Can you explain to me why me being a conflicting wagon to Soneji being scummy now that Soneji flipped town? Cause I don't see it.

You were the other wagon yesterday. Enough people still think you to be scum to spend a whole ‘nother day debating about whether or not you are scum.

It’s much easier for town, in this case, to shoot you, and end that line of suspicion so we can look at your flip and reestablish our reads if we’re wrong, or look at potential buddies or conf!town if you’re scum

[Luxurious]

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

His voting didn't change from day 1 to day 2.

What is this supposed to mean and why does it matter?

Why does it matter to you? It is only one vote on you. I vote and you appear?

Sometimes, scum don't change their vote from day to day, but town with strong reads might do that as well.

Anyways, I need a break. I don't feel like typing much at the moment.

It matters to me because your reasoning is flawed and I want an explanation for why you find that bad.

You acknowledge that this both alignments can do the same thing basically making it NAI, heck you only say it's sometimes that scum do it basically saying that this thing I did is not a particular strong scum tell but with all this you vote for me with that as your reason.

This is bullshit and I seriously wanna scum read you.

You dont have strong reads

What are you talking about? I've been strong on my scum reads through and through.

I kinda expected that response and like

I’m gonna drop this because obviously it’s not how you play

[Luxurious]

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

If you’re afraid of it happening you can remain vigilant against it!

[Luxurious]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

[Luxurious]

Nova isnt online anymore because he had to run to scumchat and be all “oh shit y’all she fucking got me what do we do now?”

[Luxurious]

I might do a trust fall to pass the time. Or I might continue packing. We’ll see.

[novaselinenever]

Nova isnt online anymore because he had to run to scumchat and be all “oh shit y’all she fucking got me what do we do now?”

[novaselinenever]

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

I call bullshit. This reads to me as someone afraid of having wrong reads in the thread publicly.

You're not afraid of being pocketed by discussing your town reads, which doesn't make sense lol. You're afraid of having townreads in public, in case of being wrong about some of them come end game

[Luxurious]

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

I call bullshit. This reads to me as someone afraid of having wrong reads in the thread publicly.

You're not afraid of being pocketed by discussing your town reads, which doesn't make sense lol. You're afraid of having townreads in public, in case of being wrong about some of them come end game

Doesnt that mean you see this coming from town

And that he just doesnt wanna be wrong

[novaselinenever]

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

I call bullshit. This reads to me as someone afraid of having wrong reads in the thread publicly.

You're not afraid of being pocketed by discussing your town reads, which doesn't make sense lol. You're afraid of having townreads in public, in case of being wrong about some of them come end game

Doesnt that mean you see this coming from town

And that he just doesnt wanna be wrong

Yep.

Why the negative question? It's irking me lol, and kind of suggest that I implied the opposite.

[novaselinenever]

What do you think about it?

[novaselinenever]

He's a weird player lol

[novaselinenever]

Town bloc

Nova
Lux
Jay
Owner

Let's go

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

His voting didn't change from day 1 to day 2.

What is this supposed to mean and why does it matter?

Why does it matter to you? It is only one vote on you. I vote and you appear?

Sometimes, scum don't change their vote from day to day, but town with strong reads might do that as well.

Anyways, I need a break. I don't feel like typing much at the moment.

It matters to me because your reasoning is flawed and I want an explanation for why you find that bad.

You acknowledge that this both alignments can do the same thing basically making it NAI, heck you only say it's sometimes that scum do it basically saying that this thing I did is not a particular strong scum tell but with all this you vote for me with that as your reason.

This is bullshit and I seriously wanna scum read you.

Drago

[novaselinenever]

Now that reads like bullshit to me

[novaselinenever]

Is it because he has the impressions that Owner is lock town due to the claim and other stuff?

Or my Drago-dar is outdate and he's bad?

[Luxurious]

What do you think about it?

I think it’s stupid and I rather believe he’s afraid of pocketing

Who fucking

Cares that much about being wrong post game. Post game isnt gonna do shit during the game

It’s negative because I really dont want that to be the reason. I literally want it to be anything else but that

[Luxurious]

I will literally never recover if that’s actually the reason.

[novaselinenever]

What do you think about it?

I think it’s stupid and I rather believe he’s afraid of pocketing

Who fucking

Cares that much about being wrong post game. Post game isnt gonna do shit during the game

It’s negative because I really dont want that to be the reason. I literally want it to be anything else but that

Lol it reads to me that way. I mean the "sharing town reads publicly will results in pocketing" is nonsense, so I ain't buying that as well.

[novaselinenever]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

[novaselinenever]

I'm thinking about lynching there tbh

[novaselinenever]

I'm not convinced Speed is bad. Feel like if a baddie made it into the consensus townlead pile, it's between Mac and DDL

[novaselinenever]

townlean*

[Dragomir]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

[novaselinenever]

novaselinenever
DDL, myself and epi were suspicious of you early on. Epi is in fact dead now. He was making a town circle with me in it, and I got paranoid cause I do that when people read me correctly early on. If I went looking through more of day 1, I could probably still see why I was suspicious of you.

It was because of emojis

[novaselinenever]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

[Dragomir]

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

I call bullshit. This reads to me as someone afraid of having wrong reads in the thread publicly.

You're not afraid of being pocketed by discussing your town reads, which doesn't make sense lol. You're afraid of having townreads in public, in case of being wrong about some of them come end game

Same thing as being pocketed yes? Being pocketed is when you strong town read a player who's actually scum. Isn't what you're saying here the same as that? So yeah I am afraid of being wrong about my town reads thus afraid of being pocketed.

[Dragomir]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

[Luxurious]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

[Luxurious]

I'm not convinced Speed is bad. Feel like if a baddie made it into the consensus townlead pile, it's between Mac and DDL

I kinda had the same thought about Mac but he’s been pretty okay so far.

[Luxurious]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

[Dragomir]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

@bold What? Explain to me why a scum would have pulled off what Genma did.

[Dragomir]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

Yeah, but the out of nowhere role claims y'all pulled off I can only attribute to a what a townie would do not scum. Also, tracker does not make sense to be scum.

[Dragomir]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

Oh yeah, Mac and Speed are ok in my book.

[novaselinenever]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

I don't know man, Run's tone strike me as someone informed rather than a townie starved of free-time and constantly running behind and out of the loop. He's too cold, his posts are sharp lol even with non game related content. His Drago vote and the attempt at justifying it afterwards was pretty underwhelming.

Gemma's been pretty shallow, a whole lot of questions some of them very specific and showing a great attention to detail. Yet nothing is really coming out of them, her efforts have been pretty directionless. There's also a discrepancy between her "got no scum-reads" and the shade she's been throwing.

[Dragomir]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

I don't know man, Run's tone strike me as someone informed rather than a townie starved of free-time and constantly running behind and out of the loop. He's too cold, his posts are sharp lol even with non game related content. His Drago vote and the attempt at justifying it afterwards was pretty underwhelming.

What do you say to lynching Run?

[novaselinenever]

Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

Yeah, but the out of nowhere role claims y'all pulled off I can only attribute to a what a townie would do not scum. Also, tracker does not make sense to be scum.

There is no role that "doesn't make sense to be scum". All roles are assigned alignments. Even the cop can be scum.

[Luxurious]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

@bold What? Explain to me why a scum would have pulled off what Genma did.

To get town cred since she was getting hit hard day 1

[Luxurious]

Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

I don't know man, Run's tone strike me as someone informed rather than a townie starved of free-time and constantly running behind and out of the loop. He's too cold, his posts are sharp lol even with non game related content. His Drago vote and the attempt at justifying it afterwards was pretty underwhelming.

Gemma's been pretty shallow, a whole lot of questions some of them very specific and showing a great attention to detail. Yet nothing is really coming out of them, her efforts have been pretty directionless. There's also a discrepancy between her "got no scum-reads" and the shade she's been throwing.

Re: rdw
Does Jessies strike you in the same way?

Because i didnt really consider it from that point. I was more looking at it as “they were gone and suddenly came back up and made an attempt to get out information quickly and contribute” which i always consider townie.

Gemma’s silence has been deafening. I asked her a few questions regarding Jack earlier since she really took off with his wagon after Speed expressed interest which is also why I’m hesitant about Speed.

He kinda just fizzled out at eod without even bringing up Jack again, and Gemma kinda did too

[Luxurious]

I saved JJJ last night.

So haha funny thing I just double checked because Dragomir mentioned it was random

This is Gemma’s first post d2

It wasnt random

[Luxurious]

The first thing you do when you come into the thread is announce to everyone you protected JJJ? There is a deliberate intention behind that.

Either she’s scum clutching for that sweet sweet towncred for that no kill

Or she’s just town going “look!! I helped!!!”

[Luxurious]

It’s like, one thing if Owner too had announced she tracked me to JJJ and then Gemma went “ i protected him last night which must be why he isnt dead” but that didnt happen

It was part of why Owner claimed which was rad

But outside of that? Big shrug

[Luxurious]

Actually the more i think about it the more i keep turning this idea around in my head about if it is scummy or it is isnt scummy.

Im going to bed will come back tomorrow with some clarity hopefully

[Gemma]

rip mp7

i'm gonna replace out sorry, the only reason i joined was to play with him

[Gemma]

eod2 votal if anyone wants it

Soneji (7): JJJ, speed, Mac, nova, DDL, Gemma, Jack
Dragomir (5): Luxurious, Epignosis, Owner, rdw, Jessie
DDL (1): Dragomir

i don't think there's any point in posting my reads given how disconnected i've been

am glad i was right about epig at least, that was the only read i felt in my soul

[Dragomir]

The first thing you do when you come into the thread is announce to everyone you protected JJJ? There is a deliberate intention behind that.

Either she’s scum clutching for that sweet sweet towncred for that no kill

Or she’s just town going “look!! I helped!!!”

Well yeah, there's obvious intention behind it but it came out of nowhere and wasn't warranted, thus it being random.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

DDL
But DDL did vote for Soneji later on. Epi could have died to make him look well?!?! Soneji not flipping scum when DDL has played with him a lot makes me question how well DDL can read him.

I can't.

/thread

[Dragon D. Luffy]

rip mp7

i'm gonna replace out sorry, the only reason i joined was to play with him