MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Also, who did nutella replace?

[Luxurious]

Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Doesnt do you any good to be angry now. Gemma didnt defend herself, she was gonna sub out so her action most likely wasnt gonna be used anyway, she didnt have any reads

Like if all you were doing was a trust fall on the doc claim in a game that has no confirmation alignments then like, meh.

Why’d you track Nova

[Luxurious]

Also, who did nutella replace?

Tsaiah

[nutella]

Hey nutella

Give me a readslist

Dragon D Luffy
MacDougall
Luxurious
JaggedJimmyJay
Owner of a Lonely Heart
M Plus 7
rundontwalk2
JessieKruger
speedchuck
Dragomir

[MacDougall]

Jay is Edison and I am Tesla.

[Luxurious]

People who know me have seen this before. The newcomers may not know what the hell this stuff means though, so a brief explanation as I begin:



I'm going to be looking into every two-way interaction among living players included in the above chart. I had to drop a couple of players, because the workload becomes too immense otherwise. As of this moment my top civilian reads are Luxurious and Owner. As such I have dropped them. Anyone who feels they demand critical assessment via this method: I encourage you to get busy and make that happen.

I'm going to fill in the chart with colors to indicate whether I believe the two players are compatible as mafia teammates. The standard rainbow shit applies. Green good. Red bad.

Idk if you know who like Robdp### is but I’ve seen him do this before

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Idk if you know who like Robdp### is but I’ve seen him do this before

I don't know who that is, but they've definitely stolen my moves.

[Luxurious]

Hey nutella

Give me a readslist

Dragon D Luffy
MacDougall
Luxurious
JaggedJimmyJay
Owner of a Lonely Heart
M Plus 7
rundontwalk2
JessieKruger
speedchuck
Dragomir

Now THAT is interesting

Firstly, why the color variants?

Secondly, what’s stopping you from townreading JJJ? Why are you scumreading Speed?

[Luxurious]

Idk if you know who like Robdp### is but I’ve seen him do this before

I don't know who that is, but they've definitely stolen my moves.

Maybe maybe but he did this when he was town in my champs game two years ago. So that’s a good look for you

[Luxurious]

Jay is Edison and I am Tesla.

I’m trying to remember the details of their feud but it’s not coming to me.

Didnt edison steal his work.

No i dont know what wikipedia is nor do i have time to google it

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Why’d you track Nova

Probably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Why’d you track Nova

Probably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.


oops ebwop hopefully fixed

[nutella]

Hey nutella

Give me a readslist

Dragon D Luffy
MacDougall
Luxurious
JaggedJimmyJay
Owner of a Lonely Heart
M Plus 7
rundontwalk2
JessieKruger
speedchuck
Dragomir

Now THAT is interesting

Firstly, why the color variants?

Secondly, what’s stopping you from townreading JJJ? Why are you scumreading Speed?

I have some amount of "tinfoil" suspicion of Jay.

More on speed when I have time, but it's partially related to my dragomir suspicion

[nutella]

Idk what you're asking about the colors, those are p standard here and I think fairly self-explanatory

[nutella]

Unless you're colorblind I guess

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Do Dragomir and DDL make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Dragomir's suspicion starts here - Drago has observed an apparent contradiction and is hounding DDL for it.
~ 4-point case against DDL - I do get the impression that for better or for worse, Drago is genuinely pursuing a lynch of DDL. This isn't for show. Expanded
~ Drago suspects DDL by way of Ultra - He suggested Ultra was guilty of hypocrisy and voiced that as an additional motivator for suspicion on DDL. Every moment is distinctly negative into Day 2. Reiterated | Again | Again, now in a grouping of suspects
~ I won't reference every relevant post here. It's the constant narrative of Dragomir's posts. You get the point; it has not ceased through the present.

Dragon D. Luffy:
~ DDL is incredulous in response to Drago's early suspicions.
~ There's a little shade here regarding Drago's stance on lynching/not lynching DDL.
~ Vote - The suspicion was mutual by Day 2. Again
~ DDL calls Dragomir "lynchbait" - The suspicion is less emphatic here if at all present. Reasserted via nova's read | Good GTH

~~~

Conclusion: There's little ambiguity in the Dragomir ---> DDL direction here, such that I believe Drago has truly been pursuing a lynch of DDL (and would follow through given the chance). Don't look like mafia teammates.

[Luxurious]

Why’d you track Nova

Probably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.


oops ebwop hopefully fixed

>probably

Did you have paranoia lmao

[Luxurious]

Idk what you're asking about the colors, those are p standard here and I think fairly self-explanatory

It was more that different scum got a different shade which is more what I was curious about rather than re: what do the colors mean?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Do Dragomir and JessieKruger make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Drago isn't pleased on Day 3. Asserts JK's suspicions are "flung" and not "wholehearted".
~ Prods the general populace to discuss Jessie. Okay.
~ Names Jessie one of four alternatives to a Gemma lynch. Reasserted today

JessieKruger:
~ JK pokes Drago with a question about his DDL suspicions.
~ Agrees with Drago's suspicion of Owner - pretty neutral chatter.
~ Turns that around and shades Drago for his push on Owner. Goofy.
~ Suggests Drago was desperate to vote Owner. Stronger language than I'd use. | Reasserted

~~~

Conclusion: Drago's rage here isn't quite as concentrated as it was with DDL. He tends to mention Jessie in groups of suspects. As such there is at least some room to perceive a teammate relationship. JK's own posts take a bizarre direction though which I struggle to attribute the same way -- he brazenly flopped on the Owner point. I'll call it a yellow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I stay firm on my suspicion against Jessie, Owner, DDL.

Do you view these players as suspects separately from one another, or are you proposing a team?

[Dragomir]

Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

If you had full control over the next lynch and had to decide right this instant: who dies?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella subbed in for Tsaiah.

[Dragomir]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

So are you gonna ignore all the stuff that heavily contradicts JJJ being scum which I mentioned last DP? Just asking.

I dont think you understand pressure votes.

But yes since I literally cannot remember anything you said about it off the top of my head

There was zero implication that there was a pressure vote in that post.

I'll go quote it.

[nutella]

Idk what you're asking about the colors, those are p standard here and I think fairly self-explanatory

It was more that different scum got a different shade which is more what I was curious about rather than re: what do the colors mean?

Oh I was trying to give speed a slightly lighter orange bc my scumread of him is not quite as strong as drago but I'm on mobile so it's kinda hard to get the colors quite right

[Luxurious]

Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?

[Luxurious]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

So are you gonna ignore all the stuff that heavily contradicts JJJ being scum which I mentioned last DP? Just asking.

I dont think you understand pressure votes.

But yes since I literally cannot remember anything you said about it off the top of my head

There was zero implication that there was a pressure vote in that post.

I'll go quote it.

Lmao

[Dragomir]

Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.

[Luxurious]

Idk what you're asking about the colors, those are p standard here and I think fairly self-explanatory

It was more that different scum got a different shade which is more what I was curious about rather than re: what do the colors mean?

Oh I was trying to give speed a slightly lighter orange bc my scumread of him is not quite as strong as drago but I'm on mobile so it's kinda hard to get the colors quite right

Ah gotcha that makes sense.

Thought: you said earlier they might be teamed? If i got that right then why is Speed less than Dragomir

[Dragomir]

Why’d you track Nova

Probably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.


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Elaborate further please. Did you have a feeling that he was scum and decided to go after him?

[Luxurious]

Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.

You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.

Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this

[nutella]

Idk what you're asking about the colors, those are p standard here and I think fairly self-explanatory

It was more that different scum got a different shade which is more what I was curious about rather than re: what do the colors mean?

Oh I was trying to give speed a slightly lighter orange bc my scumread of him is not quite as strong as drago but I'm on mobile so it's kinda hard to get the colors quite right

Ah gotcha that makes sense.

Thought: you said earlier they might be teamed? If i got that right then why is Speed less than Dragomir

Bc I haven't given enough attention to speed on his own, I need to iso him next, it was just based on a couple things I saw. Plus I often incorrectly scumread speed as he is sure to point out as soon as he gets here

[Dragomir]

Do Dragomir and DDL make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Dragomir's suspicion starts here - Drago has observed an apparent contradiction and is hounding DDL for it.
~ 4-point case against DDL - I do get the impression that for better or for worse, Drago is genuinely pursuing a lynch of DDL. This isn't for show. Expanded
~ Drago suspects DDL by way of Ultra - He suggested Ultra was guilty of hypocrisy and voiced that as an additional motivator for suspicion on DDL. Every moment is distinctly negative into Day 2. Reiterated | Again | Again, now in a grouping of suspects
~ I won't reference every relevant post here. It's the constant narrative of Dragomir's posts. You get the point; it has not ceased through the present.

Dragon D. Luffy:
~ DDL is incredulous in response to Drago's early suspicions.
~ There's a little shade here regarding Drago's stance on lynching/not lynching DDL.
~ Vote - The suspicion was mutual by Day 2. Again
~ DDL calls Dragomir "lynchbait" - The suspicion is less emphatic here if at all present. Reasserted via nova's read | Good GTH

~~~

Conclusion: There's little ambiguity in the Dragomir ---> DDL direction here, such that I believe Drago has truly been pursuing a lynch of DDL (and would follow through given the chance). Don't look like mafia teammates.

You seriously decided to go back and read our interactions to only arise to the most obvious thing in the game? Didn't need to do this.

[Dragomir]

I stay firm on my suspicion against Jessie, Owner, DDL.

Do you view these players as suspects separately from one another, or are you proposing a team?

Separately.

[nutella]

I'm v confused by owner, why track nova wasn't he a pretty popular townread or did you suspect him and I missed it?

[Luxurious]

I think Dragomir is TWTBAW

too wolfy to be a wolf. I will use the acronym again probably

[Dragomir]

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

If you had full control over the next lynch and had to decide right this instant: who dies?

DDL

[Luxurious]

Bc I haven't given enough attention to speed on his own, I need to iso him next, it was just based on a couple things I saw. Plus I often incorrectly scumread speed as he is sure to point out as soon as he gets here

Okay that’s fair I gotchu

[Luxurious]

Why’d you track Nova

Probably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.


oops ebwop hopefully fixed

[Dragomir]

Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?

I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.

Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You seriously decided to go back and read our interactions to only arise to the most obvious thing in the game? Didn't need to do this.

Every relevant interaction is going to get a look. Civilians who leave stones unturned are civilians who lose.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

DDL

Thought experiment:

DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.

What next for Dragomir?

DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.

What next for Dragomir?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Luxurious already asked one. Try the other.

[Luxurious]

DDL

Thought experiment:

DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.

What next for Dragomir?

DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.

What next for Dragomir?

I already got half of this one covered /poses

[Dragomir]

Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.

You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.

Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this

But I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.

I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?

I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.

[Luxurious]

Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?

I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.

Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.

So you put Owner in DDL’s spot and fix your 3 scum team?

Since you’ve been tunneling DDL so long, who do you push after him when he flips? Alignment isnt like, important here

[nutella]

Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.

You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.

Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this

But I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.

I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?

I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.

... I don't follow. How were you not implying that town made a stupid decision and shouldn't have done it?

[Luxurious]

Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.

You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.

Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this

But I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.

I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?

I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.

First paragraph: okay fair enough

Second paragraph: I agree it does look like that. Now let me ask this, if she’s scum, what does she get from insinuating town made a stupid move there? Like is that bragging rights? Does it give her towncred?

Third: i have no idea what you’re talking about

[Dragomir]

DDL

Thought experiment:

DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.

What next for Dragomir?

DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.

What next for Dragomir?

I'll look more into those he interacted with and talked about him in someway. My first post will also be me making an "I told you so" post.

I'll move on to my other suspects.

[Luxurious]

DDL

Thought experiment:

DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.

What next for Dragomir?

DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.

What next for Dragomir?

I'll look more into those he interacted with and talked about him in someway. My first post will also be me making an "I told you so" post.

I'll move on to my other suspects.

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