[mention]Sloonei[/mention], so here are some more specific thoughts on mata:
Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:56 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:44 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:29 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:27 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:09 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:38 pm
Question regarding the no claims rule - does that mean if you're the cop/tracker/whatever you can't state your results?
Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm
Hot take
Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans
MM, what was the point of this post? Were you answering someone, because I couldn’t find anything that indicated that.
Crap ton of linki
Okay, I can see the Matahari scumread earlier.
What scumread?
Epignosis earlier came with "I suspect Matahari" when nobody else even seemed to notice you posting at all.
As I hadn’t even posted in the game, I assumed Epi was being goofy. How can you suspect someone who hasn’t even checked in yet?
@nutella I asked about the point of MM’s post because he quoted two posts of Ultras in the order that Ultra originally posted them. After noting that the game was a no claim game, Ultra started working on a way to claim without openly claiming. I wondered whether MM was trying to bring attention to that. I looked back through other posts, but I couldn’t find one that asked MM a question about Ultra, so I asked why he posted that.
First, her reason for seeing Epi's post as "goofy" was Imo exactly what Epi was doing. I wouldn't call it "goofy" as much as I would say it was him pulling reactions but her point still stands - he was not serious about seeing her as bad before she had even posted.
Second, I didn't understand those two posts MafiaMenace made either so her question to him was legit imo. It wasn't a question on the main topics of the day but that didn't concern me at all. It's a question that I easily could have asked a new player that I was trying to understand.
Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 5:08 pm
I don’t have any solid impressions on players so far. I don’t know a few of the players at all, and I know most players who are old school here. My typical approach is to read along, try to form opinions about how people interact with each other, ask questions if I don’t understand what people are trying to say, and I rarely post a ton. It usually take two to three days in old school games before I get solid feels on a player.
Sloonei this was in response to some questions you asked her. This is exactly how I remember Mata as a civ player and as far as I remember it is exactly how she played in Steeley Dan up to the point where she got info. (She was civ in that game)
Matahari wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:31 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm
It’s hard for me to imagine making lists so early. I tried to make one today, but after rereading the game, and some ISOs, I don’t feel like I have much of an opinion on anyone. I can’t clear anyone, but there are a few that I don’t feel great about.
Dragomir, seems like he changes his mind too easily and it might not be a bad thing (like being blendy and trying to stay on people’s good side) but it still caught my attention.
Sloonei, I would like to trust him but all the pushing for info from people, the gth on day 0, seems tailor made for helping mafia. Talk is great, it helps to be able to look back at it later in the game, and that helps town. But I’ve never seen anyone keep at it like Sloonei.
Nutella, is not playing the same as the last two games I played with her. She was town in those games, and she seems a lot less pulled together so far.
I can’t say that any of them would get a vote from me. Not yet. Basically, I’m still observing people.
Tons of linki
Talk to me some more about nutella. What specifically seems different? Can you point to any posts in particular that stand out to you?
In the last two games, Nutella had confidence. The kind that seems like normal Nutella, who will say anything, whether you like it or not. Also, the kind of confidence that only a civ has. For reference, Gossip Girl and Steely Dan mafia
I’m not seeing it here. She’s not bold, rude, in your face, or any of the normal Nutella. I can’t fault her for not picking people’s posts apart and challenging them, because really, the posting hasn’t been especially suspicious, but I think she would be challenging more if she were civ. She seems like she’s holding back. That’s the best way I can explain it. That is going by old skool ‘feels’ and probably not helpful to newer mafia players.
I wouldn’t swear I’m right, but it’s enough that she’s on my watchlist.
She does give a read here about nutella that is detailed and comes across authentic to me. I can't say that I agree with it but I don't see bad in people just because they have an opinion that differs from my own. Again, this post is representative of the style I remember as civ mata.
In my read I'm saying that I wouldn't vote for her today, not that I wouldn't vote for her period. I see enough that reminds me of her civ self and nothing I would call bad. I will however look back at your analysis of her to make sure I am not blinded by what I know of her.
