Arrowverse Mafia - Day 8

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m gonna hit Nutella with a bleach arrow.

[Ultra]

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

[speedchuck]

I guess I should probably read Sloonei's ISO.

Why, exactly, did you feel the need to do this but also advertise it? I'm wondering why you don't have some tertiary impression from Sloonei just by reading the thread since he's the most present player. Why is your priority here to resolve him as opposed to literally anyone else unless you have a lead on him? Same thing with Nutella. Also remarkably little to say on either of them

Your presence seems lackluster compared to last game

Because I post whatever I'm doing so that people can follow my train of thought.
Because I haven't read the thread, so I didn't have an impression beyond the first five pages.
If you have someone I should make a priority, let me know.

TBH I don't have a lot of time for this game, but I signed up to get it off the ground. Judge me on what I got, not what I don't got.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I've been getting civ vibes on Jack. I think a baddie would be trying harder to generate a lot of reads and stuff. He is super chill about the fact he's tunneling on nutella and doesn't care about her complaints of it. And Jack does tnnel as a civ. A lot.


I don't necessarily agree with his points though, but nutella is blank for me. Will take a while for me to figure her out.

Here’s the thing, too. When I tunnel as a civ (or even as a neutral or scum player in multiball) I’m generally right.

See: Silver Lantern in Mass Effect, SenorSalt in BSG (MU), Fraggernaut in One Punch Mash (MU), Speedchuck in Ancient Greece, Rich in Restless Communication 2 (MU Discord).

I tunnel because I’m certain and I’m certain because I’m right.

I know you tunnel because I remember you tunneling on me when we were both civ/civ.

So... no.

[nutella]

I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

The top three posters in the thread, in order. Exposure bias?

I definitely think that's a factor. It's another reason I'm hesitant about both my sloonei and lux suspicions, I don't want to give them undue weight and I don't want to forget about the lower posters.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I've been getting civ vibes on Jack. I think a baddie would be trying harder to generate a lot of reads and stuff. He is super chill about the fact he's tunneling on nutella and doesn't care about her complaints of it. And Jack does tnnel as a civ. A lot.


I don't necessarily agree with his points though, but nutella is blank for me. Will take a while for me to figure her out.

Here’s the thing, too. When I tunnel as a civ (or even as a neutral or scum player in multiball) I’m generally right.

See: Silver Lantern in Mass Effect, SenorSalt in BSG (MU), Fraggernaut in One Punch Mash (MU), Speedchuck in Ancient Greece, Rich in Restless Communication 2 (MU Discord).

I tunnel because I’m certain and I’m certain because I’m right.

I know you tunnel because I remember you tunneling on me when we were both civ/civ.

So... no.

Pff that didn’t happen. I would remember something like that.

[Sloonei]

I guess I should probably read Sloonei's ISO.

Why, exactly, did you feel the need to do this but also advertise it? I'm wondering why you don't have some tertiary impression from Sloonei just by reading the thread since he's the most present player. Why is your priority here to resolve him as opposed to literally anyone else unless you have a lead on him? Same thing with Nutella. Also remarkably little to say on either of them

Your presence seems lackluster compared to last game

Because I post whatever I'm doing so that people can follow my train of thought.
Because I haven't read the thread, so I didn't have an impression beyond the first five pages.
If you have someone I should make a priority, let me know.

TBH I don't have a lot of time for this game, but I signed up to get it off the ground. Judge me on what I got, not what I don't got.

Why is ISOing me the best use of your limited time? What conclusions are you drawing from this exercise?

[speedchuck]

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Now that I've noticed it (thanks Dragomir), I don't particularly like that all the suspicion in the thread/poll seems to be directed at the top posters. Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Why is Lux under heavy suspicion?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Speed isoing Sloonei does feel like busywork or wishful thinking. Sloonei is never the lynch today.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

[speedchuck]

Why is ISOing me the best use of your limited time? What conclusions are you drawing from this exercise?

Because you were the one scumread I had early on. Wanted to see if your ISO picked up at some point.

It did. One page 3. Your first hundred posts were garbo, but the sheer number plus the pick-up on page three has me not wanting to lynch you, especially with what Jack pointed out.

linki: You think I want busywork? I quit the ISO after I hit page 3. Doof.

[Sloonei]

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Now that I've noticed it (thanks Dragomir), I don't particularly like that all the suspicion in the thread/poll seems to be directed at the top posters. Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Why is Lux under heavy suspicion?

If you’ll take a closer look at the poll, you’ll notice that the guy with 350 posts is currently voting for the guy with 7 posts.

[Dragomir]

I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

The top three posters in the thread, in order. Exposure bias?

I definitely think that's a factor. It's another reason I'm hesitant about both my sloonei and lux suspicions, I don't want to give them undue weight and I don't want to forget about the lower posters.

So are you gonna address my case against you? Reminds me of how you ignored my responses and posts about you in the scrimmage until I directly asked you to do it.

[speedchuck]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

[speedchuck]

If you’ll take a closer look at the poll, you’ll notice that the guy with 350 posts is currently voting for the guy with 7 posts.

I'm sure you've already addressed this, but why?

I keep getting Creature and Cooler mixed up.

[Dragomir]

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Legend has it, that's bullshit lol.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I've been getting civ vibes on Jack. I think a baddie would be trying harder to generate a lot of reads and stuff. He is super chill about the fact he's tunneling on nutella and doesn't care about her complaints of it. And Jack does tnnel as a civ. A lot.


I don't necessarily agree with his points though, but nutella is blank for me. Will take a while for me to figure her out.

Here’s the thing, too. When I tunnel as a civ (or even as a neutral or scum player in multiball) I’m generally right.

See: Silver Lantern in Mass Effect, SenorSalt in BSG (MU), Fraggernaut in One Punch Mash (MU), Speedchuck in Ancient Greece, Rich in Restless Communication 2 (MU Discord).

I tunnel because I’m certain and I’m certain because I’m right.

I know you tunnel because I remember you tunneling on me when we were both civ/civ.

So... no.

Pff that didn’t happen. I would remember something like that.

Mountain Mafia.

Took you until like Day 4 to let go of me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

[nutella]

I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

The top three posters in the thread, in order. Exposure bias?

I definitely think that's a factor. It's another reason I'm hesitant about both my sloonei and lux suspicions, I don't want to give them undue weight and I don't want to forget about the lower posters.

So are you gonna address my case against you? Reminds me of how you ignored my responses and posts about you in the scrimmage until I directly asked you to do it.

Case? Where

[Sloonei]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

[VOTE: Cooler] aubergine

I've been slanking a bit the last day or so but I promise I'll buckle down.

Voted Lux over Nutella because the former looks scummier at a surface level. And I haven't paid close enough attention to have confidence to push my own wagon atm

This is a rather bland and vague way to justify voting for someone. Basically sounds like you've gone for the easy choice while throwing in a nice little excuse for bandwagoning.

You're paying enough attention to say Lux looks scummier than Nutella but not enough to have your own thoughts on the game? Any other players on your suss list?

This is the most cherrypicked, obligatory suspicion I’ve ever seen. Creature says nothing for a long time but then picks this post out of the rubble to say unkind things about. Why?

You are not the only one to mix up cooler and creature, as you can see.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I've been getting civ vibes on Jack. I think a baddie would be trying harder to generate a lot of reads and stuff. He is super chill about the fact he's tunneling on nutella and doesn't care about her complaints of it. And Jack does tnnel as a civ. A lot.


I don't necessarily agree with his points though, but nutella is blank for me. Will take a while for me to figure her out.

Here’s the thing, too. When I tunnel as a civ (or even as a neutral or scum player in multiball) I’m generally right.

See: Silver Lantern in Mass Effect, SenorSalt in BSG (MU), Fraggernaut in One Punch Mash (MU), Speedchuck in Ancient Greece, Rich in Restless Communication 2 (MU Discord).

I tunnel because I’m certain and I’m certain because I’m right.

I know you tunnel because I remember you tunneling on me when we were both civ/civ.

So... no.

Pff that didn’t happen. I would remember something like that.

Mountain Mafia.

Took you until like Day 4 to let go of me.

Ah then I didn’t pursue you to death. Doesn’t count.

[juliets]

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Now that I've noticed it (thanks Dragomir), I don't particularly like that all the suspicion in the thread/poll seems to be directed at the top posters. Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Why is Lux under heavy suspicion?

speed one reason for the Lux suspicions (though not the only reason) was that whole thing about whether she scum slipped when she mentioned one bad team instead of two. The thinking was she did that because she's on one of the teams, therefore from her perspective there is just one (other) bad team. Someone who believes this to be the case (I don't think it was a scum slip) might be able to explain it better than me.

[Dragomir]

I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

The top three posters in the thread, in order. Exposure bias?

I definitely think that's a factor. It's another reason I'm hesitant about both my sloonei and lux suspicions, I don't want to give them undue weight and I don't want to forget about the lower posters.

So are you gonna address my case against you? Reminds me of how you ignored my responses and posts about you in the scrimmage until I directly asked you to do it.

Case? Where

Go read the last page.

[nutella]

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] just that you think I look similar to scrimmage? I guess I did a good job looking like my town self in that game then.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Look. Cooler is a DBZ villain. Creature is a pokemon.

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir just that you think I look similar to scrimmage? I guess I did a good job looking like my town self in that game then.

I was talking about something specific but ok.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Username - Posts
Sloonei - 350
Luxurious - 230
Dragomir - 135
nutella - 135
Epignosis - 117
Creature - 104
Jackofhearts2005 - 100
Ultra - 99
MacDougall - 70
MafiaMenace - 45
speedchuck - 45
juliets - 41
DrWilgy - 29
Long Con - 22
Matahari - 22
Dragon D. Luffy - 21
DFaraday - 10
sprityo - 9
Cooler - 7
sabie12 - 6
Spacedaisy - 3
dunya - 2
JaggedJimmyJay - 1

Now that I've noticed it (thanks Dragomir), I don't particularly like that all the suspicion in the thread/poll seems to be directed at the top posters. Legend has it that it's difficult to post hundreds of times as scum, and doesn't happen all that often.

Why is Lux under heavy suspicion?

speed one reason for the Lux suspicions (though not the only reason) was that whole thing about whether she scum slipped when she mentioned one bad team instead of two. The thinking was she did that because she's on one of the teams, therefore from her perspective there is just one (other) bad team. Someone who believes this to be the case (I don't think it was a scum slip) might be able to explain it better than me.

This is silly.

Town who doesn’t read the rules: Thinks there is one scum team.
Scum who doesn’t read the rules: Thinks there is one scum team.
Town who reads the rules: Knows there are two scum teams.
Scum who reads the rules: Knows there are two scum teams.

[speedchuck]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.

[Sloonei]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.

Slick bastard got his name taken off the poll and everything.

[speedchuck]

@speedchuck

[VOTE: Cooler] aubergine

I've been slanking a bit the last day or so but I promise I'll buckle down.

Voted Lux over Nutella because the former looks scummier at a surface level. And I haven't paid close enough attention to have confidence to push my own wagon atm

This is a rather bland and vague way to justify voting for someone. Basically sounds like you've gone for the easy choice while throwing in a nice little excuse for bandwagoning.

You're paying enough attention to say Lux looks scummier than Nutella but not enough to have your own thoughts on the game? Any other players on your suss list?

This is the most cherrypicked, obligatory suspicion I’ve ever seen. Creature says nothing for a long time but then picks this post out of the rubble to say unkind things about. Why?

You are not the only one to mix up cooler and creature, as you can see.

Ooh, I agree with this one. Like he's trying to skim the thread and find something to suspect or nitpick. Obligatory being the keyword. I like this ping.

[Dragomir]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.

Slick bastard got his name taken off the poll and everything.

Probably had his scum buddy moderator [mention]Nutella[/mention] do it.

[juliets]

In answer to [mention]Sloonei[/mention], I don't get [mention]Cooler[/mention]'s focus on the Ultra post so Cooler can you explain why you picked that post out of everything else we've talked about to focus on?

I'm liking what I see from Jack now. These recent posts very much remind me of civ Jack. The point about Sloonei self-resolving is a good one Imo.

[speedchuck]

Jay probably mafia cause he’s not being very impactful.

He's probably silenced. I've NEVER seen a JJJ with only one post.

Agreed but that doesn’t make him town because multiball.

Noted. I just don't think I can lynch him today though.

Slick bastard got his name taken off the poll and everything.

Probably had his scum buddy moderator @Nutella do it.

Nay, 'tis a damien darkh ability, verily. One of them from the hidden list. Silenced and removed from the poll. Hmm.

(Jay is always on the secret lynch menu)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[ np ] [ /np ]

[Jackofhearts2005]

It’s not in the setup so Nutella is Prometheus and therefore a good lynch target.

[Dragomir]

In answer to @Sloonei, I don't get @Cooler's focus on the Ultra post so Cooler can you explain why you picked that post out of everything else we've talked about to focus on?

I'm liking what I see from Jack now. These recent posts very much remind me of civ Jack. The point about Sloonei self-resolving is a good one Imo.

What do you think of Nutella?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[ np ] [ /np ]

No talking when you’re silenced.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

@Sloonei Bad wishy washy or good wishy washy? I'm leaning on bad.

I feel more bad about speedchuck’s than nutella’s?

Speed's doesn't really sway either way. Nutella's posts their I really don't like though. She's being very hesitant on whether or not to lynch you. She has a scum read on you, but is trying to find an excuse to not push for you because you might be town and big blow to the faction. She ain't trying to get her hands dirty against you by pushing and leading a wagon on you. She wants support and insight on whether or not it's a good thing to push for you and that sort of approach is one like a wolf trying to test for a possible mislynch they can get on. If they have the town's ok on it, it'd be fine(or at least a few ppl's insight so they look terribly bad for redirection a wholeass lynch on you).

I know I did something similar in the scrimmage where I asked players if they wanna lynch x player but I was chill, non-chalant about it. Here she's iffy and it's not a good look. I also understand that she thinks townies should be hesitant, but imo that hesitance is only ok when it's the good wishy washy, trying to figure out if a person's posts make them town or scum. This hesitance is bad wishy washy.

What do you think?

This post makes me read both you and nutella better.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Literally "nutella is wishy-washy lynch her" case #62089347505790485

[Dragomir]

It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

@Sloonei Bad wishy washy or good wishy washy? I'm leaning on bad.

I feel more bad about speedchuck’s than nutella’s?

Speed's doesn't really sway either way. Nutella's posts their I really don't like though. She's being very hesitant on whether or not to lynch you. She has a scum read on you, but is trying to find an excuse to not push for you because you might be town and big blow to the faction. She ain't trying to get her hands dirty against you by pushing and leading a wagon on you. She wants support and insight on whether or not it's a good thing to push for you and that sort of approach is one like a wolf trying to test for a possible mislynch they can get on. If they have the town's ok on it, it'd be fine(or at least a few ppl's insight so they look terribly bad for redirection a wholeass lynch on you).

I know I did something similar in the scrimmage where I asked players if they wanna lynch x player but I was chill, non-chalant about it. Here she's iffy and it's not a good look. I also understand that she thinks townies should be hesitant, but imo that hesitance is only ok when it's the good wishy washy, trying to figure out if a person's posts make them town or scum. This hesitance is bad wishy washy.

What do you think?

This post makes me read both you and nutella better.

How?

[Dragomir]

Literally "nutella is wishy-washy lynch her" case #62089347505790485

Taken at face value then sure.

[Jackofhearts2005]

It’s like Bloody Mary. Say Jay’s name in a mafia thread three times and he’ll appear and case you.

[Ultra]

wait is JJJ actually in this game

[speedchuck]

wait is JJJ actually in this game

No

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Nobody said a word about Cooler. Not even to point out that I misidentified him as Creature at one point.

I think that kind of accusation is pretty common from civ Cooler tbh.

He's a pretty aggro player who tends to start cases easily. And he has being wrong about me like half a dozen times so I'm used to him not being exactly fair with his cases.

[Sloonei]

Nobody said a word about Cooler. Not even to point out that I misidentified him as Creature at one point.

I think that kind of accusation is pretty common from civ Cooler tbh.

He's a pretty aggro player who tends to start cases easily. And he has being wrong about me like half a dozen times so I'm used to him not being exactly fair with his cases.

Idk what aggro means here

[juliets]

In answer to Sloonei, I don't get Cooler's focus on the Ultra post so Cooler can you explain why you picked that post out of everything else we've talked about to focus on?

I'm liking what I see from Jack now. These recent posts very much remind me of civ Jack. The point about Sloonei self-resolving is a good one Imo.

What do you think of Nutella?

I'm seeing wishy-washy nutella which in my experience is town nutella. I am not clear why she is carrying so many votes other than her view of sloonei which is...wishy-washy. I probably missed some other reasons for votes in the three pages I had to skip so I'm going to try and skim the iso's of the people voting for her.

[Sloonei]

I brought up Ultra before I left last night. I’ve thought about him and scanned his posts again.

We all gave him credit for his Felicity proposal out of the gate, but if I put my scum-colored glasses on when I look at him, I can argue that he conceived of that plan in pre-game and posted it here with no regard for his alignment. He’s done (by his own admission) relatively little since then, which is underwhelming to say the least. He has returned to case speedchuck a little and I’m interested to see where that goes.

Any more general thoughts that [mention]Ultra[/mention] has about the game would significantly help my read of him.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nobody said a word about Cooler. Not even to point out that I misidentified him as Creature at one point.

I think that kind of accusation is pretty common from civ Cooler tbh.

He's a pretty aggro player who tends to start cases easily. And he has being wrong about me like half a dozen times so I'm used to him not being exactly fair with his cases.

Idk what aggro means here

Short for aggroculture.

[Jackofhearts2005]

In answer to Sloonei, I don't get Cooler's focus on the Ultra post so Cooler can you explain why you picked that post out of everything else we've talked about to focus on?

I'm liking what I see from Jack now. These recent posts very much remind me of civ Jack. The point about Sloonei self-resolving is a good one Imo.

What do you think of Nutella?

I'm seeing wishy-washy nutella which in my experience is town nutella. I am not clear why she is carrying so many votes other than her view of sloonei which is...wishy-washy. I probably missed some other reasons for votes in the three pages I had to skip so I'm going to try and skim the iso's of the people voting for her.

Cause her reads are fake!